Monogatari Series: Final Season
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh nice, Ougi appears in this series and from the episode, they even used the original Owarimonogatari OP song (season 2/part 2 when?). Glad to see Ougi appear again in this series. Nadeko is also a refreshing sight to see too. |
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| I didn't expect Ougi and Nadeko! Mh, quite liked the episode. |
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| Yay, Ougi get an episode and an OP (the first one from Owarimonogatari). Also Nakedo :D 4/5 |
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| Good to see Nadeko, but honestly I felt a little bored with the exchange between Araragi and Ougi. |
| I need sleep. |
| awesome Ougi and Nadeko |
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lonelytree said: Good to see Nadeko, but honestly I felt a little bored with the exchange between Araragi and Ougi. same feeling here..just didn't enjoy the speaking style of Ougi, and nor she is a little bit attractive :3 |
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| It was pretty interesting when Ougi brought up the question of how they moved the shrine from mountain to mountain. It then got pretty creepy the moment after we are shown the scrunchy on Nadeko's wrist. |
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| Well, Nadeko figured out the mystery of the Kitashirahebi Shrine rather quickly. But if I had to speculate, I'd say it's not because she's particularly sharp but rather she already established somewhat of a connection with the Shrine by the time they were having a talk about it. |
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fortuna89 said: lonelytree said: Good to see Nadeko, but honestly I felt a little bored with the exchange between Araragi and Ougi. same feeling here..just didn't enjoy the speaking style of Ougi, and nor she is a little bit attractive :3 I felt the same. The best exchanges are between Araragi and Hachikuji and Kanbaru. Always likes this OP. |
 Fake people have an image to maintain. Real people just don’t care. |
| Ougi always makes things more interesting when she shows up, particularly when there seems to be more slight hints to the mystery behind her. If nothing else, her being an apparition seems unlikely as the talisman at North Shirahebi Shrine was supposed to prevent apparitions from gathering there (am I remembering that right?). I'd say that the fact that she mentioned how the shrine couldn't handle the power of Kiss-shot could prove to be quite significant as far as Ougi is concerned. Could she be someone of similar power as an apparition? Oh, and I'd say it's pretty clear that Nadeko was already possessed by the snake at this point and already knows about the talisman, based on how she looked to the cabinet with the talisman in. |
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| Ougi has returned, and she is as spooky and cute as ever :3 That conversation with Nadeko has a lot of foreshadowing for Nadeko Medusa arc. |
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| Nice, Ougi time. as expected. the case was interesting. i expected that since Ougi is the main character this time. it's nice to see Nadeko again. and so, this episode happened way after Nadeko Medusa. i thought it was before. Nadeko warp things up this time. that's new to me :D |
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| Pretty interesting conversations with both Ougi and Sengoku. That closeup at the porn magazines that he had the talisman hidden in lol |
| hmmm this episode didn't do much for me, but this mini series is rather hit & miss. |
| I love Ougi, She is the best decision Nishio Ishin ever made to add as a character. |
| Hayao Miyazaki was a Mistake -Anime  |
| Okayish episode, interesting how it was Nadeko explaining things. |
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| That smile Nadeko made there has trouble written all over it...Cue in the Nadeko Medusa arc. |
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| That was maybe not as amazing as the other episodes (really enjoying Koyomimonogatari so far), but it had some great moments, and the conversation with Ougi was interesting. I LOVED the symbolism of Ougi jumping at Araragi and their faces appearing to merge into one strange face. It was extremely easy to miss but I noticed it when I paused to take a cool screenshot. It only backs up the theory I had for a while now (not a spoiler, since it's just my personal assumption) that Ougi is somehow related to Araragi - either she IS him or she is an aberration born of his memories.  (And yay, adding these eps is my first contribution to MAL.) |
| Alright episode. Not keeping me that interested in it though |
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| Ougi talks circles @_@ Interesting ending with the "snake" stuff. Yea... we know where that leads. |
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| Always glad to see Nadeko back. |
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| Koyomi Mountain. Ougi and Araragi and a mystery in the old and crumbling mountain temple, have a solution? -- Koyomi Mountain. Ougi y Araragi y un misterio en el viejo y derruido templo de la montaña, ¿tendrá solución? |
| I don't get this episode at all U_U |
| But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. |
| Pretty nice episode as well, especially that ending! |
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| Didn't expect an Ougi episode, but it was a bit boring. Worst so far imo. |
| Average episode, not so good, but not so bad too... 4/5 |
"No matter where you go, everyone's connected." Iwakura, Lain. |
| I figured out how the shrine was moved way before it was explained. |
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| How sly of Ougi to change the topic once Araragi wonder what she can do to clear up her uncle's mess-up, or so she said. Araragi have no shame in asking the solution for that shrine relocation to a junior high school kid, which is younger than him. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
Atavistic said: Ougi always makes things more interesting when she shows up, particularly when there seems to be more slight hints to the mystery behind her. If nothing else, her being an apparition seems unlikely as the talisman at North Shirahebi Shrine was supposed to prevent apparitions from gathering there (am I remembering that right?). I'd say that the fact that she mentioned how the shrine couldn't handle the power of Kiss-shot could prove to be quite significant as far as Ougi is concerned. Could she be someone of similar power as an apparition? Oh, and I'd say it's pretty clear that Nadeko was already possessed by the snake at this point and already knows about the talisman, based on how she looked to the cabinet with the talisman in. If I remember, Sengoku created a Kai'i because she believed in it, she also visited the temple and even then the snake did not disappear, if Ougi is something similar to that (created by Araragi), she could visit the temple. (Sorry for my english) |
| Unlimited Rulebook, boku wa kimegao de sou itta. |
| I honestly wish I could be enjoying this season more considering I’ve loved every other season of this series, i’m not even sure what’s missing since it feels relatively the same as the other parts. |
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| Kinda forgot about Ougi's OP since they only played it once, but it's not too bad. Alright ep, kinda nervously chuckled when Nadeko mentioned the snake dude's name. |
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| That was a pretty good one, it has some foreshadowings here and there with what happens after that time. That talk with Ougi was very interesting, and the Nadeko that was on the verge of becoming a God is creepy. |
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| Okay now that's certain, Koyomimonogatari's episodes actually have an impact on the rest of the series. Not only did we get foreshadowing for Nadeko Medusa (though is that really foreshadowing if we get it after having seen the event ?), but it also looks like Araragi's conversation with Nadeko led her to be comforted in her own delusions. Maybe if he didn't tell her all that, she wouldn't have been so sure about herself ? Which has me thinking, maybe Ougi wanted for Araragi to tell this enigma to Nadeko, in order to get a reaction from her ? Nah I might be overthinking on this part. But still, I'm keeping this in mind, we don't know what can happen. And now speaking of Ougi (once again confirmed best girl/boy/everything, she is just fascinating). The moment I saw that was an Ougi episode I knew it wouldn't be a simple little riddle with a little message like what we got in the rest of this season. I knew I would have to use my brain, stop all the time in order not to miss any information, and reflect on everything. And I was totally right. Other than the whole thing about the temple and Nadeko, we once again got some hints about Ougi herself. Specifically, it seems that it is now confirmed she is an oddity, considering what she said at the beginning about how she feels at ease on the mountain because it is the home of gods which is close to being some sanctuary for oddities. The fact that she is one isn't surprising at all, however Araragi clearly doesn't know about it, the fact that he once again refers to her as a simple high-schooler is enough to prove it. So is that once again him refusing to see what's obvious or is it something else ? Another hint is that she noticed the temple's atmosphere is pure, whereas Araragi didn't. Of course if she is an oddity she'd notice these kind of things. Another thing that proves Ougi is an oddity is that she seems to have some superhuman capacities. She wasn't tired at all when climbing the mountain (unlike Araragi who was dying a bit more with each step), and even more : she climbed to the temple's roof just like it was nothing. And Araragi said/thought something interesting : "like a monkey, or a cat". That's true, and what is also true is that both the monkey and the cat are oddities. Could it be that Ougi is related to them ? Well, after all I'm still having that oddity-cluster thingy from Shinobu Mail in mind and I definitely didn't forget how similar it was to the Darkness. Maybe I'm also overthinking right now, but maybe I'm onto something. And speaking of the Darkness, it reminds me of how Ougi once again pretty much confirmed her role has something to do with the world's balance, which not only gives even more hints about her but also seems to even more confirm her as being related to the Darkness since preventing chaos is pretty much what that thing is doing (granted, in an extreme way, but Ougi is pretty extreme too). Finally, not necessarily related to Ougi herself (though it might actually be), but I found this thing about how two opposite /different (I can't remember which was the exact term) things shouldn't be put together to be interesting. Interesting in a philosophical kind of way, but not only. I feel like we're supposed to make a parallel between that and the relationship between characters. Which is why it might still have something to do with Ougi : maybe the parallel has to be made with her relationship with Araragi. But I'm also considering it having something to do with Nadeko instead so I'm not sure. Well, I'm definitely gonna rewatch this episode because there was quite a lot to take in account, so maybe I'll come up with new things and some of my questions will have their answers. |
FafetteAug 11, 2021 11:48 PM
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| Looks like this one was right before Nadeko becomes a snake god in Otorimonogatari. Nadeko was even staring at the drawer which has the talisman. With a rather creepy smile on her face. But that makes it look like she already knew about it?Did she know? |
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| Ougi is my favorite girl, her conversations with Araragi are always interesting. |
| Mmm did Nadeko and Koyomi gathered like this before that one scene in Second Season, once she already had the snake? I don't think so. |
| Nice usage of Ougi’s OP from Owari, it was only used in one episode if you watched the TV version, and only two on the Blurays, so it getting a third and probably final use is great, it’s a cool song and compliments Ougi’s mysteriousness and wackiness nicely. And this episode was a neat tie-in to Nadeko Snake from Second Season, you could tell when it takes place due to Nadeko mentioning the snake god and also the white scrunchy. It’s also cool that Nadeko of all people solved this one for Araragi, he didn’t think that they would build a whole new building for some reason lol, but I liked the simple explanation for what seemed like something very difficult to pull off. I also found Ougi’s explanation on why snake’s were worshiped to be pretty cool, my explanation would probably just be because they’re cool but also scary lol. |
| Ougi is still melting my brain as much. |
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