Altair: A Record of Battles
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Pretty thrilling episode. This one really made up more with the action and night strategies employes from the armies. The military skill of Bahmut is also impressive imo as he was able to shoot with his bow from a horse while jumping in mid-air. Tbh, this show really needed an episode like this...one that's filled with action that gets your adrenaline pumping. Not to mention, the bits of violence is noticable (heads hung on sticks even). |
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| This was a very good episode. The action and strategies was trilling to watch. Mahmut is proving himself more and more to be a smart strategist. The Empire are backed into a corner. I give them props for not surrendering and to keep on fighting. |
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| No cheap heroics, no fake epic music; just the reality of war. Everybody is calm, fighting, some of them lose, some of them win. The narration in this episode doesn't try to favor or celebrate any opposite side, but just reflecting. Those empire's army commanders have no right to complain about Kokoschka; no one is perfect; just draw your sword and fight at the desperate moment. I finally found the title for Pino; The Crackhead! I am not trying to show him bad or good; but those stitches on his head were always bugging me. Come on Crackhead Pino; get off your high horse, draw your sword and walk; a fierce battle is awaiting you! As you implied; there was a violence. I am surprised there. As far as I know that Ottoman Turks don't/shouldn't spike-show those heads and step on the national flags. Because killing enemy violently is forbidden in their holy book and Turks respect the flags. https://quran.com/17/33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWmjrcKtxsw&pbjreload=10 This episode is one of my favorite list about showing war scenes. |
| Ouch the Turks got the Empire on the run. There at the end kinda looks like Pino doesn't want to trust this girl general again cause she already fucked up quite some times here and he just said fuck it we'll try to take this city or we'll die trying. |
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| As always I wonder why is the series so underrated, makkun is becoming more outstanding by each passing episode more than I expected XD I am never regretting this |
She should not be shocked at this point lolAlpha_Knight1 said: Just made an account on MAL because i saw the rating and wanted to give it a 10/10. Honestly, this anime has a lot of potiential and it has had its highs and lows but the series is pretty good. idk why it has a 6.8/10 rating :/ It is all about initial impression and hype. We can't do nothing about it, except mention the series on various forums and advising to other anime fans. Also, it is sometimes overlooked, like any other anime series. Some fans might gave a low rating due to that initial impression and left without watching next episodes. I am sure its rating will rise in time, but don't be fooled by ratings. I learnt to not trust any rating long ago, I always read the synopsis, genres, look some images or videos about any certain anime and then jump in. |
| Some of those officers reminded me of LotGH lol. One looked a bit like Mecklinger. But nice episode. Brutal and just because the main characters are supposed to be the good guys doesn't mean they are using less violence. Looking forward to the last episodes. I guess Zaganos pasha might join in as well (maybe rescuing the other guys with the "director" that still are under siege if I remember correctly). |
| Thing are going too good, probably a traitor in the empire;s group. |
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| I need the Empire to lose completely and utterly. don't want no phyrric victories here. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Wars like these really make you feel pity for even the enemy. Only the might proves justice in such.. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| Holy shit! We've seen a couple of decapitated heads but this episode damn, one of them has been cut from the jaw and is missing it while on the spear. Savage Mahmut lol |
| Gotta sympathize with the Empire. They got nice aesthetic. And where were they hiding this cutie? |
| Sieg Zeon! |
| Oh come on! Things were getting good and then they end it on another cliffhanger again! That's the tactic that I expected them to take. Stay on the move and shoot fire arrows into the fray to distract the enemy while one force makes a path. They made the right choice to take out the ballistae first. This forced the other two formations to mobilize which gave Mahmut's forces an opening to escape. Pikemen may have a great defense and a weapon to counter cavalry, but they're too slow to keep up with them. And given that the Torquean tribe is an equestrian tribe that specializes in horse archery, they'll be kiting them for days. Well Pino made the choice. No surrendering. They're gonna try to take Espada, but the Empire is stuck between a rock and a hard place with morale dwindling. Now I wonder about Ms. Tactician. Since her tactics seem to no longer be of use to Pino, what will she do? |
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luccide said: Can't wait for the next episode! Sad that it's only 2 more episodes left.. Is the manga still ongoing? Manga is at 106 chapters, anime only covers up to 76 |
Alpha_Knight1 said: Just made an account on MAL because i saw the rating and wanted to give it a 10/10. Honestly, this anime has a lot of potiential and it has had its highs and lows but the series is pretty good. idk why it has a 6.8/10 rating :/ I m with you , 10/10 series |
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| I like this episode! The entire anime has been a huge mess pacing-wise, but they were doing it to reach this part faster and it was a truly fun episode. I'm still sad over the whole experience, but at least I can enjoy the end :D |
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| I want to skip to the ending. It seems pretty slow. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| More badass shit from Mahmut and his men in this episode, I'm looking forward to seeing how this conflict wraps up. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| Another EPIC episode! looks like the strategist woman miscalculated... the moment I heard Yuuki Aoi's voice, the Espada also cannot be taken lightly! can't wait for the next ep! 5/5. |
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| Pretty nice episode.The battle really thrilled me.And we got to see the human side of the empire too. Mahmut has completely become a man. I just wonder will Mahmut massacre the Empire army now. |
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| When Pino's head comes off.....THAT WOULD BE THE MOMENT !!! |
 張大です for 張大勇督察 |
| FYI anyone who wants to read the manga, Sense Scans website has the best quality chapters http://sensescans.com/reader/read/shoukoku_no_altair/en/13/66/page/1 if you go from 66 it includes the missing arc where Venedik fights L'isolani at sea |
| Another amazing episode! Like it keeps getting even better. I love war-related animes, especially the strategies that they use. Can't believe we have only 2 episodes left. Mahmut did such a great job, i've never seen him so serious and determined as in the last episodes. |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
SkyDrop said: This show's strategy always managed to amuse me from beginning! Could been muccchh better if they had higher production value and the pacing were been alright in recent episodes. Anyway! I am darn shocked that she calculated another victory chance in a situation like that!! Same here, been loving this anime! Would be really good to get another season. |
| "There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| The charge from the Espada soldier was funny. Yeah, it's not going to reach. XD Loved this episode. Looks like it will be a total victory for the alliance though it will be difficult. |
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| That was fantastic, things are surprisingly going too good for Mahmut though. That moonlit shot of Mahmut shooting an arrow was stunning and combined with General Pino monologues recognizing Mahmut's prowess was way too good and also made me really emotional thinking about how far Mahmut has come. |
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jomarggg said: How the hell did the empire get defeated they have the numbers and the tactics for fighting a cavalry unit and why is there big gaps in theyre formation also theyve got heavy armor and thick shields those peasants just poke them like they were paper and and in one scene Mahamut just charged an actual tight pike formation with light unarmored horse shouldn't that be devastating aslo why dosent the empire have archer units and no scouts to see if theres are huge obvious trenches right in front of them if they feel in the trench then why not fall back reform into a tight formation because that actually work and we saw that the Espada army desent have the reach to attack why make chase when they can just wait for the enemy to come i hate it when the smaller forces wins because the plot requires it like the last episode where one guy was able to make the heard of sheep stampede out of the Empire camp and the Torqye army just steals them easy animals would stop or move to another direction when theres a wall or in this case a wall of soldiers facing them and we saw in one episode a charge was stops by simple branches of leaves held to make a wall during the Torqye civil war this is ridiculous therye extremely OP The empire had fallen to Mahmut's plan outwitted Lily Kokoschka. It's true they have large numbers but again the overall terrain set-up isn't suitable for turtle tactics employed by the Standing Army. Not to mention Phalanx are much useless in elevated grounds. The alliance employed a mixture of defeat in detail and hammer and anvil tactics here. Luring them away and setting traps (moats), and using Turkish (Turkish horses compared to Balt-Rhein are much smaller but make-up with their top speed of 90 km/h against Baltic Horse 70 km/h). And smartly using ladders by El Toro mercs to disrupt their formation and push onwards. You have to understand that the army just doesn't teleport into position. They have to Walk and Sprint, not to mention their regiments are split into groups facing the alliances. You have to go figure when mahmut charges into the pike formation. 1) Fast Forward, 2) Uses same tactics by Halil back in the first Turkish-empire war (off-screen history: episode 1 & 21): Attacking from behind while forces putting pressure on the front using missile arrows. The army although have archers during their first invasion episode I think somewhere appeared at 15-20, also their main ranged weaponry is the ballista loaded with grenades so they count. Originally they were supposed to be used against Mahmut's cavalry but miscalculated in the end. You can't see the moat because it's hidden from direct straight-up visual view. Not to mention like the Testudo inspired, "Rückenschild" (Carapace) if you paid attention doesn't allow you to see what's beneath you only a slight middle and upward view. And again in stealing back the sheeps or herds they were in Rückenschild formation.  And this image what it looks like inside the Ruckenschild notice their eye line of sight:  Also unlike the Macedonian Phalanx and Tercio or Pikemen of early modern era. The Balt-Rhein Standing Army is composed of 500 men per regiment or company. Adding Archer into the body can be tasking and difficult to coordinate. Phalanx Composition: 483 Lancers or pike-length spear armed men 7 or more:: Commander Deputy Commander Standard-bearer Trumpeter Messenger |
KapiWasHereMay 25, 2018 11:57 AM
| massive balls Pino, actually taking charge and giving commands for his own reasoning instead of listening to a girl with probably zero military experience.. even though the conclusion they arrived to is the same, Pino probably didn't think they have a chance of winning and they would rather go out trying than give up on their belief. Kokoschka is freakin ruining this show for me. Great episode though. |
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| Mahmut is such a badass now. Though ironically it just proves that he can't prevent war through lofty idealism. Instead, he's forced to seep himself in the carnage and continue slaughtering his enemy until they lose the will to fight or cease to exist. |
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| Have to admire how Mahumut fights for. Aspirations and wishes of Halil pasha. Not hatred. He destroyed emperial army spectacularly this time, have to say it was well executed. Yet, after all that happened still can't forget that espadian dude who charged the whole formation of spear then realized his sword wouldn't reach them and retreated casually like he was testing his range. |
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