Saint_Nepunepu said: And this show is full CGI. And so are the future shows from the looks of itKlad said: New anime's are getting more and more full CGI animation. That's the sign of anime dying for me. It loses the 'anime' feel if you know what I'm saying Most of the 3DCG in anime is used for things other than characters, and there are still many shows that use almost no 3DCG. |
DrGeroCreation said: Pretty sure they used Chinese companies. Maybe I'm wrong. But I listened to several commentary tracks from Batman TAS and remember the creators saying how some episodes looked better than others because they switched companies. If not Chinese, then Korean, as someone said above. You could have just said that if you knew it. I never listened to any commentary for Batman Beyond. (I didn't like the show much either.) But I can tell they switched to a different company just by how bad the show suddenly started to look. Ezekiel said: Not one of my favorite Batman animated movies but I didn't find Batman and Harley Quinn stiff at all. They have never used any Chinese animation companies.Batman and Harley Quinn looked really stiff and rough. I think it began with the second or third season of Batman Beyond, when they switched to a different Chinese animation company. |
Ezekiel said: They had used Japanese and Korean animation studios but never Chinese. I never noticed any major drop between seasons in Batman Beyond. Anyway imo the modern Batman animated movies I mentioned look better than this and don't look cheap at all.DrGeroCreation said: Pretty sure they used Chinese companies. Maybe I'm wrong. But I listened to several commentary tracks from Batman TAS and remember the creators saying how some episodes looked better than others because they switched companies. If not Chinese, then Korean, as someone said above. You could have just said that if you knew it. I never listened to any commentary for Batman Beyond. (I didn't like the show much either.) But I can tell they switched to a different company just by how bad the show suddenly started to look. Not one of my favorite Batman animated movies but I didn't find Batman and Harley Quinn stiff at all. They have never used any Chinese animation companies. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Then I don't think you're one to judge what good animation is. I never noticed any major drop between seasons in Batman Beyond. |
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Ezekiel said: I know it's better animation than this and to be fair I haven't seen Batman Beyond in years. Batman Beyond isn't a new DC American animated movie like the ones I posted though, so not really relevant to what you were talking about in your first post.DrGeroCreation said: Then I don't think you're one to judge what good animation is. I never noticed any major drop between seasons in Batman Beyond. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Ezekiel said: They had used Japanese and Korean animation studios but never Chinese. I never noticed any major drop between seasons in Batman Beyond. Anyway imo the modern Batman animated movies I mentioned look better than this and don't look cheap at all.Pretty sure they used Chinese companies. Maybe I'm wrong. But I listened to several commentary tracks from Batman TAS and remember the creators saying how some episodes looked better than others because they switched companies. If not Chinese, then Korean, as someone said above. You could have just said that if you knew it. I never listened to any commentary for Batman Beyond. (I didn't like the show much either.) But I can tell they switched to a different company just by how bad the show suddenly started to look. What? Now this makes absolutely no sense at all. |
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| His suit looks more like Edo era samurai than a ninja... |
DrGeroCreation said: What doesn't make sense at all to you? If I remember right, didn't the animation for Batman Beyond get worse as it went along? Unless I'm remembering wrong, I thought there was a dropoff. |
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DrGeroCreation said: It's relevant because I believe that's when WB started being so cheap with their animations. Their new animations don't hold a candle to the old. That Harley Quinn and Batman movie should look better than the old TV show, because it's a movie, but it looks worse. Ezekiel said: I know it's better animation than this and to be fair I haven't seen Batman Beyond in years. Batman Beyond isn't a new DC American animated movie like the ones I posted though, so not really relevant to what you were talking about in your first post.Then I don't think you're one to judge what good animation is. |
Ezekiel said: The Batman Harley Quinn movie looked just like the New Batman Adventures. Also what other modern Batman animated movies or cartoons have you seen? Please don't come with the nostalgia BS of every batman cartoon has to look like Batman TAS to be good. DrGeroCreation said: It's relevant because I believe that's when WB started being so cheap with their animations. Their new animations don't hold a candle to the old. That Harley Quinn and Batman movie should look better than the old TV show, because it's a movie, but it looks worse. I know it's better animation than this and to be fair I haven't seen Batman Beyond in years. Batman Beyond isn't a new DC American animated movie like the ones I posted though, so not really relevant to what you were talking about in your first post. Kagami said: I haven't seen it in years so I can't remember.If I remember right, didn't the animation for Batman Beyond get worse as it went along? Unless I'm remembering wrong, I thought there was a dropoff. |
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DrGeroCreation said: No, the animation in the New Batman Adventures looked quite a lot better than the Harley Quinn movie, even if I wasn't that fond of the new art style. Ezekiel said: The Batman Harley Quinn movie looked just like the New Batman Adventures. Also what other modern Batman movies or cartoons have you seen? Please don't come with the nostalgia BS of every batman cartoon has to look like Batman TAS to be good. It's relevant because I believe that's when WB started being so cheap with their animations. Their new animations don't hold a candle to the old. That Harley Quinn and Batman movie should look better than the old TV show, because it's a movie, but it looks worse. |
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Ezekiel said: I don't believe so. Also it's funny how you are only talking about that movie when you are generalizing all modern Batman animated movies when it's obvious you have haven't seen them.No, the animation in the New Batman Adventures looked quite a lot better than the Harley Quinn movie, even if I wasn't that fond of the new art style. Is this bad animation to you? |
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DrGeroCreation said: The thing is that I don't want to look at any of those movies for more than a moment, because they're visually unappealing. The Killing Joke movie too. Why else would I stop watching Batman after going through all of TAS, TNBA and most of Beyond last year? I wanted more Batman. The animators are a bunch of cheapskates. Ezekiel said: I don't believe so. Also it's funny how you are only talking about that movie when you are generalizing all modern Batman animated movies when it's obvious you have haven't seen them.No, the animation in the New Batman Adventures looked quite a lot better than the Harley Quinn movie, even if I wasn't that fond of the new art style. |
Ezekiel said: So your opinion holds no weight then since you don't even watch them. Funny how you ignored the clip I posted from Batman vs Robin animated movie.DrGeroCreation said: The thing is that I don't want to look at any of those movies for more than a moment, because they're visually unappealing. The Killing Joke movie too. I don't believe so. Also it's funny how you are only talking about that movie when you are generalizing all modern Batman animated movies when it's obvious you have haven't seen them. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Actually, I looked at both of the videos briefly and wasn't impressed. Animation standards have dropped a lot on both sides of the world. Funny how you ignored the clip I posted from Batman vs Robin animated movie. |
Ezekiel said: Well that's just your opinion and since you haven't seen any of the new Batman movies beside Batman vs Harley Quinn I take it with a grain of salt. Animated New 52 Batman actually has a more realistic character design and not the overly square look of Batman TAS Batman.DrGeroCreation said: Actually, I looked at both of the videos briefly and wasn't impressed. Animation standards have dropped a lot on both sides of the world. Funny how you ignored the clip I posted from Batman vs Robin animated movie. |
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DrGeroCreation said: I think digital animation made them lazy. The colors and lines are ugly. Ezekiel said: Well that's just your opinion and since you haven't seen any of the new Batman movies beside Batman vs Harley Quinn I take it with a grain of salt.Actually, I looked at both of the videos briefly and wasn't impressed. Animation standards have dropped a lot on both sides of the world.  Animated New 52 Batman actually has a more realistic character design and not the overly square look of Batman TAS Batman. Character design isn't the same thing as animation. Having said that, I don't like some of the new designs, such as Catwoman now wearing goggles. Edit: Oh, also... I didn't watch the Harley Quinn and Batman movie, I just watched some clips on YouTube and decided it was ugly. |
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@Ezekiel That's fan art. This is how Batman looks in the new 52 animated movies. Well that's your opinion, I don't find they look ugly. Ezekiel said: I'm aware of that and never stated that character design and animation was the same but just that animated new 52 Batman's character design is better than Batman TAS Batman's character design. It's funny though how you bring up animation yet haven't shown animation from Batman TAS that look as good as the clip from Batman vs Robin that I posted. In cartoons Catwoman only wore goggles in The Batman and DC Showcase Batman. Catwoman from the animated Adam West movies doesn't wear googles. I like DC showcase Catwoman's goggles but I don't like the one from the Batman.]Character design isn't the same thing as animation. Having said that, I don't like some of the new designs, such as Catwoman now wearing goggles. Edit: Oh, also... I didn't watch the Harley Quinn and Batman movie, I just watched some clips on YouTube and decided it was ugly. Well I can't take you seriously then since you haven't even watched any modern Batman animated movies or animated tv series to make such a generalized claim just from seeing a clip or two on Youtube. |
DrGeroCreationDec 1, 2017 6:34 PM
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Ezekiel said: Oh yeah because watching 5 minute clips is the equivalent of watching an hour and more long movie. I haven't seen Batman Beyond in years to remember. LOL @ the fanboy strawman. You can maintain whatever you want but I have actually watched the modern Batman animated movies fully (not just clips) so I would say my opinion does carry more weight. Anyway this has gone really offtopic so I'm ending this conversation here.YouTube clips are plenty. But that's fine, I can't take you seriously either, since you can't even tell there was a downgrade after the first season of Batman Beyond and are obviously a DC fanboy. I maintain that the digital animation and coloring look poor. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Young people really love saying that word, don't they? strawman Again, YouTube clips are plenty. It's insane to expect someone to fully watch a movie they find visually unappealing. |
Ezekiel said: Anyone regardless of age says that word when it's obviously being applied in a argument. A Youtube clip is not even a quarter of a more than hour long movie. You are complaining about the animation (not art) so how ca you fully judge the animation from one clip. That's like judging Hai no Grimgar's animation from only looking at this .DrGeroCreation said: Young people really love saying that word, don't they? strawman Again, YouTube clips are plenty. It's insane to expect someone to fully watch a movie they find visually unappealing.  |
DrGeroCreationDec 1, 2017 7:22 PM
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| it actually looks decent. im use to thiss type of 3d animation kinda like ajin and Sidonia. but maybe better <3 |
| Well ever since seeing the JoJo OPs I've been wondering what a much longer project with that animation would look like and well here we go. Looks pretty cool. |
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| It look pretty awesome. Unlike some people I don't mind CGI. |
Klad said: And this show is full CGI. And so are the future shows from the looks of it I already said that this is not representative of anime. The vast majority of anime is hand-drawn. |
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Saint_Nepunepu said: Sigh, have you been reading what I said? In the future anime will become more and more full CGI, meaning that number of hand drawn shows will lessen noticeably. You can see it even now that with each new season, full CGI shows are increasing.Klad said: And this show is full CGI. And so are the future shows from the looks of it I already said that this is not representative of anime. The vast majority of anime is hand-drawn. |
Klad said: Sigh, have you been reading what I said? In the future anime will become more and more full CGI, meaning that number of hand drawn shows will lessen noticeably. You can see it even now that with each new season, full CGI shows are increasing. There's no reason why anime would become 3DCG. People base this entirely on what happened to the American movie animation industry, which has nothing to do with the anime industry. |
Saint_Nepunepu said: We don't know that but I hope you're rightKlad said: Sigh, have you been reading what I said? In the future anime will become more and more full CGI, meaning that number of hand drawn shows will lessen noticeably. You can see it even now that with each new season, full CGI shows are increasing. There's no reason why anime would become 3DCG. People base this entirely on what happened to the American movie animation industry, which has nothing to do with the anime industry. |
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Klad said: Not really, if anything its becoming more and more separated as alot of the CGI studios are new and are forming their own individual works. Theres alot more anime output now than there was in the past while there are more CGI shows theres really a lower average than in the past, people tend to neglect how prominent cgi was in the late 2000's. Nowadays we just see more full CGI works and full 2d works completely independent of the other. The overlap still happens but its pretty much only just for like a car in a brief shot and thats about it but that was done even in like the 90sSaint_Nepunepu said: Sigh, have you been reading what I said? In the future anime will become more and more full CGI, meaning that number of hand drawn shows will lessen noticeably. You can see it even now that with each new season, full CGI shows are increasing.I already said that this is not representative of anime. The vast majority of anime is hand-drawn. The only thing this complaint holds true to is mechas, cause only trigger and sunrise do 2d mechs anymore |
JizzyHitlerDec 3, 2017 5:38 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Pretty hyped for it to be honest, though kind of would prefer to see a dub of it even if I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be Japanese in it(or at least speaking Japanese.. Maybe.. Don't know!q!!q!) |
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Monzer42 said: Honestly I hope this is just a cheesy, fun Batman flick like the Tim Burton ones. That's the Batman I love the most. Superhero movies are always lackluster when they try to get too serious. Have you watched Batman: Under the red Hood? I thought it was really good. As were Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Parts 1 and 2. In fact, I prefer them to the Christopher Nolan movies. |
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