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Sep 23, 2016 10:20 AM
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Hmm, I think the episode was alright.

Expected Avilio to use his knife to do the talking. I think he overestimated himself though and ends up getting captured. Kinda interesting they had an opera play going on stage while all this was happening from behind the scenes.

Avilio's cold blooded killings really reveals the darker side of his character this episode. Kinda liked the music they used this episode as well.
Sep 23, 2016 12:07 PM
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So he shot the other guy instead of the Don... Maybe I missed something, but why did he?

Edit: Got my answer. No need to quote me anymore. please
TyrelSep 23, 2016 1:12 PM
Sep 23, 2016 12:18 PM
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Tyrel said:
So he shot the other guy instead of the Don... Maybe I missed something, but why did he?


Because if he shot only the Don, he would still have to kill Nero, the Uncle and the Vanetti family would survive. And he has been long enough in the business to know that the Uncle would discard him once he became a burden so he might die before fulfilling his task.

But by killing the Don of Galassias, Galassias will kill every Vanetti out there. Even if Nero or the Uncle got away, they would be haunted for the rest of their lives, never being able to know peace.

For a man who has no interest in surviving, this is a great plan.
Sep 23, 2016 12:20 PM
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Wow, there were so much deaths in this episode.
Sep 23, 2016 12:22 PM
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Loved the episode and the music used in it, it reminded the scene of godfather 3 where they kill Michael's daughter.
Sep 23, 2016 12:24 PM
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I love it when characters manipulate others to make everyone self destruct without having to lift a finger, and this was beautiful. Can't wait for the conclusion.
Sep 23, 2016 12:25 PM
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This is probably anime's best attempt at a revenge story till now.

Ooh, post-credits hype. Can't wait to see how the last episode will go.
Sep 23, 2016 12:36 PM
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Absolute Masacre on this episode, death everywhere, cant wait for the next episode 5/5
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Sep 23, 2016 12:38 PM
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I thought, Avilio lost his mind. But he actually was still smart at the end by killing Don Galassias, holy shit!

FUCK THE VANETTIS, you brought this on yourselves!

Cracker episode.
Sep 23, 2016 12:40 PM

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Tyrel said:
So he shot the other guy instead of the Don... Maybe I missed something, but why did he?


All out war will wipe out the Vanettis rather than just waiting for a chance to kill everyone one by one.
Oh god who are you people?
Sep 23, 2016 12:41 PM

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Well... that was one way of doing it. I didn't expect that. Now it's an all out mobster war!
Sep 23, 2016 12:43 PM
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So who do we have left now?

Avilio
Nero
The nephew (Galassias)

Anyone else important?
Sep 23, 2016 12:46 PM

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Wow, that was amazing!

So, Don Vanneti was hoping that by killing Lagusa he would prevent the Galassians from taking them over, but that's what happened at the end anyway. So, it was all for nothing. What a fitting title. I loved how Angelo just left him to die instead of killing him so that he would suffer knowing killing his "best friend" was all pointless.

On a different note, Del Toro was one serious badass. Pity he wasn't around for longer...
Sep 23, 2016 12:53 PM

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Tyrel said:
So he shot the other guy instead of the Don... Maybe I missed something, but why did he?

The Don had worked on raising the Vanetti name his whole life, so by killing the Galassian, Angelo was able to take everything away from all the people who wronged him just as they had done to him in the past.
Sep 23, 2016 1:12 PM

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Well the show finally reached it's climax. (Avilio is a cold blooded bastard.)
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Sep 23, 2016 1:21 PM
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no wonder this masterpiece doesn't get higher score when most anime lovers don't have capacity to understand the story.
Sep 23, 2016 1:21 PM

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Loved the twist. I actually gasped out loud, and that hasn't happened in a long while.. take a 5/5.

Smudy said:
So who do we have left now?

Avilio
Nero
The nephew (Galassias)

Anyone else important?


Corteo's ghost

Also inb4 Fango's dominatrix partner Lacrima shows up and kills Angelo in the end.
Sep 23, 2016 1:26 PM

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Confirmed that uncle was there on the job and then found a way to dispose of him as well.

I like the way you think, Avilio
Sep 23, 2016 1:36 PM

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Oh boy, I never expected that. It was one hell of a plot twist. Avilio, you sick bastard. Literally the best mafia anime series.
Sep 23, 2016 1:37 PM
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damn son next week will be fire.
Sep 23, 2016 1:38 PM

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too much death in this episode :S the music playing in the chaos scene when the security started shooting at each other was amazing..

Angelo self destructed and lost his mind he's hallucinating and seeing Corteo everywhere.. this is so sad :(
Sep 23, 2016 1:41 PM

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Smudy said:
So who do we have left now?

Avilio
Nero
The nephew (Galassias)

Anyone else important?

As fas as named characters go, Tigre and Cerotto should still be alive (the latter is thankfully not involved in the playhouse massacre from the looks of it).
Sep 23, 2016 1:45 PM

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Avilio is a genius, my god.

10/10 for mass murder
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Sep 23, 2016 1:49 PM

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Loved this episode, things are really kicking into high gear now.
And that knife fight was brutal.
Sep 23, 2016 2:01 PM
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wow perfect plan to get rid of them all ! i don't understand how come people are not liking this short series :p
Sep 23, 2016 2:02 PM

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Took three people to take down Del Toro that was intense. Props to Avilio for causing chaos.
Sep 23, 2016 2:02 PM

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*screaming* I try to predict how calculated the chaos of revenge could be and I'm still taken by surprise.

Avilio is brilliant. Like a dying flame.

Wonder if the Glassia nephew will want revenge for his cousin, Ronaldo?
Sep 23, 2016 2:12 PM
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Wow Angelo, take the path of family massacre aren't you.

Wonder what will he (the galassias nephew) do to Angelo next episode...

This episode is sad and brutal. Can't wait for next week!
Sep 23, 2016 2:16 PM

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Wow , Did not expect that to happen :o

Really nice episode. Can't wait for the last one next week !
Sep 23, 2016 2:22 PM

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Going to miss this show, once it ends.
Can such a dream truely exist?
Sep 23, 2016 2:24 PM

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Angelo doesn't do anything half arsed does he?

This has been one of my favourite series this season. Can't wait to see how it all ends.







Sep 23, 2016 2:32 PM

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wow this all went downhill so fast. I really really like this anime. I hope it gets more popular and maybe one day, in the airing season there will be a highschool ecchi harem show less and one mafia show more!

Man I do like Angelo. He plays along and worked his way up. For some time I thought he and nero would become friends. But he had a plan and followed it. One of my favorite MCs for sure.
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It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
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Sep 23, 2016 2:42 PM
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This episode was really good, the way everything exploded with the revenge of Avilio was amazing.
Sep 23, 2016 2:43 PM

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This ep was intense. So in the end it all went according to plan. Angelo's reason for existence was his revenge on the Vanetis. Now that Galassias took over Vanetti's reign is collapsing. Total success Angelo. I don't know what will happen next but I'd like to see Angelo give an end to his misery. The Vanettis won't be able to do him anything after he is gone. If they are still to exist ofc.
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Sep 23, 2016 2:43 PM
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It's the typical plot twist of revenge: "You took everything from me, so I'll take everything from you." And he did it in a grand way, as expected. I had goose bumps when he was about to "kill" the don. SO GOOODDDD.

I'd give this series 9/10 already. But there's still 1 more ep to go.
Sep 23, 2016 2:54 PM

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Great. Loved Del Toro fighting back and managing to take down those 2 other guys. And very nice to see Avilio tricking Ganzo and killing Don Galassia. Ha ha. Looking forward to the next episode. Seems of the main interesting guys only Avilio, Nero and that Strega guy are left.

Avilio might even have known that Barbaro was follwing him ... having foreseen that Ganzo would kill Barbero after Barbero captures him. (And that Barbero wouldn't call Nero first but only Ganzo calling Nero and Nero arriving later after Avilio already left ... might have been his plan so Nero was "running around" ... maybe having a chance to escape. The guys in the audience probably are dead for sure now killed by Galassias.)

Hoping for a 1 vs. 1 Nero vs. Avilio at the end. (And first Nero killing the Strega guy.)
Sep 23, 2016 3:02 PM

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Wasnt this episode supposed to come out only next week alongside epi12?
Not that im complaining, really happy to watch it today!
Sep 23, 2016 3:03 PM

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Fantastic episode! Barbero is dead... finally, he pissed me off, so is Ganzo. Don Vanetti - previous one - is left dying knowing that he killed his friend for nothing. Can't wait for the next ep: Avilio vs Nero.
Sep 23, 2016 3:06 PM

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Looks like they are going for a Kill 'em All ending. Hyped for the final episode!
Sep 23, 2016 3:16 PM
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Loved the twist! Can't wait for the next episode!
Sep 23, 2016 3:25 PM

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That's a lot of death... But damn, Avilio sure had a great plan. That parallel between Avilio and Vincent, though.
I can't wait for the final episode!
Sep 23, 2016 3:30 PM

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I loved this episode especially when avilio tricked us all. The way he pulled it off was smart. Nero shouldn't want revenge when his family looked for trouble first by killing someone else's parents. Hopefully they both die, avilio has no reason to live anymore. This series deserves a 10/10 idc idc what anyone says
Sep 23, 2016 3:49 PM

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geralt said:
I'm expecting Angelo to wrap things up during the opening of the playhouse which was 2 days away. He'll probably go out with a bang and cause the Galassia family to wipe out all the Vanettis...

That was me on last week's episode and even by expecting that, I still didn't see coming Angelo killing Don Galassia. The show turned out to be a pretty fantastic revenge story, now I'm eagerly awaiting for the conclusion. And speaking of the ending, my not so bold prediction is Angelo and Nero end up killing one another.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Sep 23, 2016 3:50 PM

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I loved the episode and the final scene was great, but I found the episode predictable except for some scenes (like Del Toro's death. I though the dude would die when the other two guys stabs him, but he managed to rekt the two before Avilio killed him, what a badass).

In fact, I saw Barbero, Ganzo and the Galassia boss dying since the start of the episode (the first two considering the ending of the previous episode and the other because I predicted Avilio would use him as a way to damage the Vanetti family), and when Avilio appeared in front of Vincent and the Galassia don I knew he wouldn't kill Vincent and would kill the other to cause a gang war between the Vanettis and the Galassia.

Not that the episode was bad, since I liked it, just that I was not that surprised with the final outcome.
I think it's obvious the reason why Avilio didn't killed Vincent was because he wanted him to suffer rather than ending quickly with his life, apart that killing the Galassia boss was the perfect excuse to provoke the gang war he wanted. It was a very cold and cunning move, tbh.

About the ending, I think Avilio will die, but I'm sure not by the hands of the Strega guy. I'm not sure about Nero, since Avilio hasn't completed his revenge, but maybe he is already satisfied with the current outcome, since the Vanettis are pretty much doomed by this point.
Sep 23, 2016 4:01 PM

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Bro, this is what happens when you give your characters a brain and strong motivations!!! Everyone here was great (except Barbero fanboying over Nero).

Avilio is having some strong hallucinations about his only friend , that is sad as fuck.

What a nice chapter.
Sep 23, 2016 4:09 PM

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What a beautiful plot twist, If he killed Don Vanetti, all the other guys would escape,but he uses his brain (pretty rare for a Main) and turned up to a big masacre between the two families.

Damn I'm gonna miss this anime, better mafia and revenge story. Just one more episode to see the end.
Sep 23, 2016 4:18 PM
FAL made me

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Holy shit Avilio wasn't just after Nero and Vincent this man just killed the entire family off with that.
Sep 23, 2016 4:23 PM
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When I saw the title "All for nothing", I thought it was referencing Angelo
But in the end, Vincetti is the one that will have to live his last moments knowing he killed his friend for nothing

Wonder what Strega will do to Angelo and I hope we get the Angelo facing off Nero 1-on-1 like in the promotional art
Sep 23, 2016 4:34 PM

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Barbero's death was so funny. Ganzo was like stfu.
Sep 23, 2016 4:34 PM

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Hooooooooooooollllly shittttttttttttt this is fuckin EPICCCCCCCCC plot twists every fuckin episode this show surpassed all my fuckin expectations

Angelo is the fuckin MAN that's how you revenge your family jesus this nigga ended the whole fuckin Vanetti family name lmao

GIMME EPISODE 12 NOWWW!!
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