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Sep 14, 2015 9:00 PM
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Big fucking disappointment -_- Really Shinobu Otahaka.......
Sep 14, 2015 10:48 PM
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Tokoyo said:
Big fucking disappointment -_- Really Shinobu Otahaka.......

Lol I knew you'd have a response like this. I'm pretty happy with it though because open defiance against Sinbad is always a good thing to me.
Sep 14, 2015 11:03 PM
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LordAura said:
Tokoyo said:
Big fucking disappointment -_- Really Shinobu Otahaka.......

Lol I knew you'd have a response like this. I'm pretty happy with it though because open defiance against Sinbad is always a good thing to me.
Lol, the fans of said character are all jumping for joy now
Sep 14, 2015 11:29 PM
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Tokoya said:
LordAura said:

Lol I knew you'd have a response like this. I'm pretty happy with it though because open defiance against Sinbad is always a good thing to me.
Lol, the fans of said character are all jumping for joy now
You know what with the
I wonder if Othaka has just completely changed what she was originally going to do. I mean she said in early 2014 that
but we've seen that happen to absolutely no one.
Sep 15, 2015 6:42 AM
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LordAura said:
Tokoya said:
Lol, the fans of said character are all jumping for joy now
You know what with the
I wonder if Othaka has just completely changed what she was originally going to do. I mean she said in early 2014 that
but we've seen that happen to absolutely no one.
That's exactly what I think she did.....Fucking caved at the last minute
Sep 15, 2015 8:07 AM
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I don't understand lol, what happened?
Sep 15, 2015 11:03 AM
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Looks like Kougyoku is Gyokuen now which make sense that face she made in this chapter
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Sep 15, 2015 8:04 PM
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RolokoSep 15, 2015 8:09 PM
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Sep 16, 2015 7:58 AM
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Damn! Now the translations are TWO vital chapters behind. Kouen! What is your fate? Let me read!!
Sep 20, 2015 7:36 AM

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Good job Ohtaka. There is no place for that joke ship Mor x Haku.
Sep 20, 2015 9:38 PM

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Ishkoten said:
Looks like Kougyoku is Gyokuen now which make sense that face she made in this chapter


Lol what did you even read? That's why you shouldn't read the raws if you don't understand Japanese.

These last few panels were there to show how Kougyoku's thought and actions aren't the same. She's acting like a good girl but deep down she'll go at Sinbad's throat at the first occasion.
Zero relation to Gyokuen. I don't even understand how you went there.
Sep 20, 2015 9:42 PM

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Sep 20, 2015 10:26 PM

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Ah, so Kouen didn't actually die. I mean, I probably should've expected so, but it still comes as a pleasant surprise to me that he didn't die.

Nice that Mor finally got some relevant panel time. She confirmed her feelings for Alibaba while letting Hakuryuu know. Despite that, I think she handled how she mentioned that to Hakuryuu reasonably well.

Kougyoku at the end makes this situation really interesting now. This is all starting settle as Sinbad as possibly the final main antagonist. I heard from somewhere that Magi is entering its final arc. D:
Sep 21, 2015 2:24 AM

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This was just what I was expecting from Morgianna, and I hope it stays that way. In lieu of readers screaming for Hakuryuu and Morgianna to inexplicably get together somehow, I'm glad that Ohtaka seems to have more respect for her characters than that. Looks like as a result of Morgianna's support, Hakuryuu's rukh turned from black to white.

I'm not really the type of person that needs a main/relevant character to die for a story to be impactful, so I can't really say I share sentiments with those disappointed that Kouen didn't actually die. If anything, I'm glad that he didn't die, but the loss of limbs and his metal vessels may mean that we probably won't see him in combat again.

Lastly, It looks like Kougyoku is incredibly pissed off at Sinbad right now, and rightfully so considering that he manipulated her to betray her family. I feel that if anyone could stop her from going on a warpath for Sinbad's head, then it's probably Alibaba (Who needs to show up sometime soon along with Judar). I say this to myself pretty often, but I really worry for her.

On a side note. I completely forgot that Koumei and Kouha were banished, or should I say exiled.
Kuro_YuukiSep 21, 2015 3:38 AM
Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast.

Yeah. I said it.
Sep 21, 2015 3:07 AM

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Morgiana is just so awesome. The way she announced that from now on they'll be by his side and if he ever does something stupid like that again she'll stop him. I love her so much <3
The bow was cute.

Hakuryuu really changed his ways? He's thought it over and saw how worthless revenge is, deciding not to kill Kouen. Even his Rukh is white again ^^ Good for him.

And for Kouen...ofc as many I have mixed feelings. Hate how mangaka do this cop-out a lot of time, it's become pretty cliche by now but I'm glad Kouen is alive with repercussion to his legs. And his existence is hidden to the public now.

Finally...Oh boy, Sinbad needs to prepare his anus because some reverse rape incoming. I really wonder if she can do anything against him?
Sep 21, 2015 4:12 AM

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Shangetsu said:
Ishkoten said:
Looks like Kougyoku is Gyokuen now which make sense that face she made in this chapter


Lol what did you even read? That's why you shouldn't read the raws if you don't understand Japanese.

These last few panels were there to show how Kougyoku's thought and actions aren't the same. She's acting like a good girl but deep down she'll go at Sinbad's throat at the first occasion.
Zero relation to Gyokuen. I don't even understand how you went there.


No, judging from the pacing and foreshadowing on whether Gyokuen is "dead", it's likely that Gyokuen is related to her somehow. I also got that feeling that they were similar. And I find it ridiculous to see Kougyoku herself to be a major villain unless she is swayed by an external party.

Though I cant seem to recall why Kougyoku is so mad at him.. was because he is always possessing her?
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Lol what did you even read? That's why you shouldn't read the raws if you don't understand Japanese.

These last few panels were there to show how Kougyoku's thought and actions aren't the same. She's acting like a good girl but deep down she'll go at Sinbad's throat at the first occasion.
Zero relation to Gyokuen. I don't even understand how you went there.


No, judging from the pacing and foreshadowing on whether Gyokuen is "dead", it's likely that Gyokuen is related to her somehow. I also got that feeling that they were similar. And I find it ridiculous to see Kougyoku herself to be a major villain unless she is swayed by an external party.


I suggest you go into the next chapter thread >_>
Sep 21, 2015 7:23 AM
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Honestly, as much as I love Kouen, I think it would have been even more disappointing if Ohtaka axed him prematurely. I mean we're seen him fight like, once?? And now he's
despite being such a hype character. It would've been a huge waste to throw that all that buildup away.
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Though I cant seem to recall why Kougyoku is so mad at him.. was because he is always possessing her?
Pretty sure anyone would be pissed if they were mind controlled and forced to fight against their own country. Especially if it lost them the war and got her brother beheaded.
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Kougyoku is turning into Gyokuen. About time she got some focus since she kind felt left out from the rest of the Kou family.


Sep 21, 2015 9:05 AM
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She will kill Sinbad.
Sep 21, 2015 9:56 AM

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Kougyoku is turning into Gyokuen. About time she got some focus since she kind felt left out from the rest of the Kou family.


She's not
Sep 21, 2015 10:34 AM

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It's so sad my fav two characters in Sinbad and Kougyoku have to have such a huge divide, can't fully blame either one of them though. If Sinbad dies I hope it's by her hands, I really hope he wins overall though I know that's impossible since he'll probably have some villain turn for whatever reason.
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this manga is so good right now.
Magi and Toriko are my favorite weekly manga at the moment.
Sep 21, 2015 11:36 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
KaiserNazrin said:
Kougyoku is turning into Gyokuen. About time she got some focus since she kind felt left out from the rest of the Kou family.


She's not


Don't you feel like she kinda not as important as the other Kou family members? We only remember her in this story as the one that get manipulated by Sinbad.


Sep 21, 2015 12:29 PM

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Kouen's being alive feels like a cop out, but considering I didn't dislike him I don't mind too much.
Did I miss something or Hakuryuu's rukh was turning white again, though? I thought it's been stated like million times that once someone becomes depraved, there's no coming back. If so, big plot hole right there.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Sep 22, 2015 3:01 AM

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How to ruin Magi in one chapter. As a stand alone this chapter is awful, but knowing Otahaka, she will make it work out better in the upcoming chapters.
Sep 22, 2015 1:10 PM
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I don't get why so many people are thinking that Kougyoku's turning into Arba.
It's quite obvious why she acted the way she did at the end of the chapter; Because f*cking Sinbad, who she loved and trusted by the way, has used her against her own family and country. Of course she's totally pissed and filled with hatred, guys.

I mean, what Sinbad did to her was disgusting and cruel, she has every right to hate and despise him and this has nothing to do with Arba.

I just hope that she won't lose herself and someone will be able to notice her actual mental state. I love how the mangaka made it clear to us that nothing good comes out of revenge and that you're just continuing a circle of hate.

Just replace Kougyoku with Hakuryuu, Hakryuu with Kouen and Sinbad with Arba. It's the same.

(But I pray to God, aka the mangaka, that someone's going to stop the tragedy happening all over again)
Sep 24, 2015 9:26 AM

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err but it's good to see Kouen didn't die , but saw Kougyoku became really angry like that surprised me.
omg, death flag for her were rising, im worried about her.

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Such bullshit if Hakuryuu really does come back from depravity like that..holding out judgement for now cause there's just no way.

And on top of that, best girl might take his place as the next one to fall into depravity? I absolutely love that she is after Sinbad's head(and hopefully Hakuryuu's) and that she'll get the focus she deserves, but not if it means she falls.

The implications of this chapter just suck right now.
Oct 2, 2015 1:47 PM

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Kouen is always? YES! Atleast there is still some hope left for Hakuryuu then.

But the ending of the chapter...damn Kougyoku is pissed xD
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Heh, so Kouen is alive..

Sinbad has a big target on his back now and an angry one too. Should be exciting to see what else comes next.
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well i totally called it. we've already seen most of what hakuryuu can do so no point keeping him as a big villain now.
Oct 5, 2015 10:51 AM

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Oh damn so he's alive and reunited with his brothers, touching.

Pretty disappointed tbh, but I liked the ending.
Oct 5, 2015 12:12 PM
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Can't wait for Sinbad to die. <3



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Those ,who do not understand true pain can never understand true peace.

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Damn i'm torn....On one hand i'm pissed that Kouen survived but on the other thanks to that Hakuryuu's was able to have his rukh turned white again.

I really liked what Morgiana had to say regarding everything, looks like there's still hope for Haku x Morg :D

*Looks at Kougyoku*
Somebody is pissed!! xD
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Glad to see Kouen is alive.
Damn Kougyoku is pissed, who can blame her after Sinbad controlled her like an asshole for his own needs.
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Fuck Morgiana, she just should've let hakuryuu kill himself!!!!
Dec 12, 2023 1:47 AM
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Great writing by Ohtaka in keeping Kouen alive and redeeming Hakuryuu. These haters are just background characters who fell into darkness like Cassim. The difference is that Cassim got redemption, while they can only keep crying.

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