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Jan 10, 2016 8:26 AM
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Not bad but I felt like being dropped in the middle of the story this episode. Right from start, there's action, blood, mecha, BETA, etc. The narrative is short but captured the point of the premise.

As for the characters...they introduced quite a bunch of them, more than I had expected. The bloodbath is here~


Katia is cute but I hope we find out more about her.
Jan 10, 2016 8:46 AM
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Better than I expected, but the pacing. Let's just hope that that doesn't turn out to be an issue.

The OST sounds pretty neat though, and I'm happy with everything so far.
Jan 10, 2016 8:55 AM
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Better than Total Eclipse/10. Not that I'm saying much with that statement, but whatever. I'm glad they kept the expository monologue about the BETA to the bare minimum, I expect most people watching this are already Muv Luv veterans anyways.

Also, I wasn't expecting it to go that heavy into the East/West German political divide, but I can dig it, I guess.
Jan 10, 2016 9:03 AM
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Never watched Muv-Luv, but will watch it soon. The background music's pretty good and the animations are alright. Sh*t hit the fan way too fast!

3/5
Jan 10, 2016 9:30 AM
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Not really excited for this anime, but I guess it'll suffice until the VN for this gets translated.
Jan 10, 2016 10:04 AM
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Now this is what one expects from this show. Not some TSF development story but actual killing and death.
Jan 10, 2016 10:25 AM
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The only thing I hope is that the pacing won't be too fast but I'm hooked
Jan 10, 2016 11:06 AM
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*hug noises*

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Well at least it started out better than TE did, but unsurprisingly this probably isn't intended to be watched for anyone that hasn't played the Muv-Luv trilogy first. It may be a standalone story with different characters, a different country and taking place 16 years earlier, but the universe is still the same. So you kind of just get dumped right into the middle of the action without much explanation if you're unfamiliar with the setting

And as always, for everyone that have in fact played through ML before... the same old issue will probably ensue, namely that all of the spinoffs have a tentency of being rather disappointing compared to the real deal. But I won't give up on it right away at least
Jan 10, 2016 11:07 AM
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Interesting first episode, always enjoyed war time shows and it's based in modern history which is nice. I did think the animation was off at times, especially with that slap.

Katia Waldheim waifu potential-10/10.
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Jan 10, 2016 11:45 AM
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I felt like the pacing was a little fast in my personal opinion, but overall it was a good start I guess. My only issue was just the transition and the pacing in itself seems off in comparison when I watched Muv Luv's first few episodes.

In all honestly I hope this doesn't turn into a very rushed anime, just saying.
Jan 10, 2016 11:54 AM

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can i watch this without watching muv-luv ?
Jan 10, 2016 11:57 AM

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Kazuboredlife said:
can i watch this without watching muv-luv ?


That's what I'm wondering too
Jan 10, 2016 11:57 AM

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Kazuboredlife said:
can i watch this without watching muv-luv ?


you can, but recomend watch muv luv TE or read some info about it. The first episodes dosént hold your hand if you don´t really know the world they are in. They may explain more in a later episode. But for the moment it seams it for the Muv-luv fans
Jan 10, 2016 12:08 PM

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glad to see a muv-luv spin off :D completely forgot this was coming this season.

my only problem with this sofar is just the name and that it makes no sense how IF it is supposed to be german.
Jan 10, 2016 12:13 PM
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My only words so far are "YES!"

Also the pacing feels a bit odd, but I came for blood and death and I got both of those. So long as this doesn't fuck itself up like TE I'm going to be happy.
Jan 10, 2016 12:14 PM
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An okay episode. As expected of the muv luv series, those beta are creepy af, and the gore is there as well.

Why they kill hot anime girl in the first episode :(

Overall it's okay so far but if the anime is one cour I feel like it won't be very good, but if it's two cour it will have some potential
Jan 10, 2016 12:18 PM

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Pretty satisfied with the ep. Did everything I wanted it to do.
Jan 10, 2016 12:22 PM

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hope to god that this is a 2 cour
Jan 10, 2016 12:42 PM

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bobzanny said:
Katia Waldheim waifu potential-10/10.

First i read it as " 10/10" :D I yelled on my pillow every time Katia opened her mouth. Im sorry,if this is mostly Katia bashing,but you have to be special kind of stupid to defect to DDR just to find one person. Of course there is possibility,that she's a spy,but obviously you dont tell stuff like that to others.
First episode was ok. I can already see similarities between Theodor and Yuuya. Im really wondering why they are keeping PTSD-girl as pilot. I mean some point she is going to get someone killed...oh wait. I guess DDR is running out TSF pilots.
Jan 10, 2016 12:51 PM

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Solid start though the MC seems a bit of a jerk. I think there will be allot of politics mixed in with the mecha action.
Jan 10, 2016 12:56 PM

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don't really know much about muv-luv but didn't really feel lost. obviously a bit of supsension of disbelief due to the mix of a historical setting of 1983 with mechs and aliens thrown in, certainly an intersting mix

pretty good so far

i guess it is a series where i shouldn't get attached to any character
Jan 10, 2016 1:05 PM

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somewhat annoyed at most of the characters at the beginning maybe I have to watch muvluv to understand the setting more all in all its above average
Jan 10, 2016 1:06 PM

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Eh, I'm not sure what I was expecting from a Muv Luv spinoff, but this wasn't too great. I know it's only the first episode, but I can tell it's going to hard to find anyone likable from this cast, but maybe that's for the best. I'm starved for some Muv Luv so I'll keep watching for now in hopes that it'll surprise me.
Jan 10, 2016 1:20 PM

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Or you can just read muv-luv alt ;) have fun happy 60 hour reading.
Jan 10, 2016 1:24 PM

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Decent first episode. I actually like total eclipse, everyone else think it sucks. Lol
Jan 10, 2016 1:29 PM

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Rather not worth my time.
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Jan 10, 2016 1:32 PM

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boring. i don't wanna watch an anime about the DDR


Jan 10, 2016 1:40 PM
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This was actually really enjoyable. The characters were a little heartless, but I could see that changing later on. Will stick with it.
Jan 10, 2016 1:52 PM

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Wait what? Didn't expect someone to die in the first episode.
Didn't think I would have enjoyed this anime so much.

Gore you tell me? That's my shit.
Jan 10, 2016 2:05 PM

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After the questionable pleasure that was Muv Luv, I stubled upon this, not knowing it was the same franchise.

One thing that really bugs me is the title. "Schwarzesmarken"? Really? I could've produce a more correct german phrasing using google translator! All other german translations, including names and pronunciations were on point, so why the hell would they mess up something that important?!? The wording they were looking for is probably "Schwarzmarken" = "Black marks"...

Next up, there are still way too many traumatised naive little girls piloting oversized mechas here. Was really glad when Eberbach pointed this out as well :P

"Insane pilots should stay off the battlefield." - Lt. Eberback, DDR, 1983
Jan 10, 2016 2:07 PM
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i really needed this, muv luv has that atmosphere i really like so i hope it will be 2 cours :)
Jan 10, 2016 2:08 PM
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Decent first episode. I actually like total eclipse, everyone else think it sucks. Lol
everyone else probably stoped befor ep 3 :S Eclipes is great
Jan 10, 2016 2:09 PM

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I got a bit bored around minute 12/13 so I decided to drop it. Didn't seem interesting enough to make me even continue watching the 1st episode. One of the worse shows this season. Probably mainly hyped because it is set in Germany.

I usually don't care about hype and I don't know about the other Muv Luv stuff. Maybe I'll start watching again once the season is finished if it isn't more than 12/13 episodes and the reviews are okay/interesting or some of the people I know with similar taste as me recommend it again.
Jan 10, 2016 2:17 PM
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Not sure why people are complaining about the pace, it got through a substantial amount of background in an efficient manner, very happy with that because most of what they sped through really shouldn't have much bearing for the rest of the series. Also happy that they kept the tone grim until the end.

Hadn't realized that this was a Mev-luv spin-off, hope it can avoid the blatant fanservice pandering that made me drop that show by the 4th episode. They can work all the fanservice they want into the series, but please for bog's sake remember that this is a grim and bitter world.

Not my favorite genre, but the question of how much humanity is willing to discard of its humanity in order to survive can be a wonderful plotline. Hope they keep with it.
Jan 10, 2016 2:23 PM

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Pretty solid first episode. Those BETA are nasty, they sure didn't tone down the gore. OST was pretty neat, ED too.


Jan 10, 2016 2:23 PM

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they all hate each other. I love it.
Jan 10, 2016 2:35 PM

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P3TE said:
Kazuboredlife said:
can i watch this without watching muv-luv ?


That's what I'm wondering too


This and Muv-Luv aren't really connected, you can watch either, however you're better off just watching Muv-Luv than this. I can't find a single positive about this show. However Muv-Luv's first two episodes were horror before it turned into a weird harem sort of light action/mecha show, so maybe this will evolve from crap to something watchable.
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Jan 10, 2016 2:36 PM

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Muv-luv universe anime that seems to be well made? Sign me in!

I still remember the greatness that is VN Muv-luv, if this anime will be even half, no 10% as good as MUV-LUV then it's definitely worth watching. Reaching that 10% will be hard but after seeing the first episode there is a chance for that.

We already have people dying on the battlefield so it is Muv-luv all right.

Then again, I wonder how would I look at this anime if I weren't VN reader. I would probably drop it the moment I saw mechs... shame on me.
Jan 10, 2016 2:53 PM

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Did they explain how they are maintaining their borders after every BETA attack? Not sure if coincidence as we all know that they are spontaneous and their behaviour can't be predicted. As a fan of the visual novels, I'm content with this spin-off. Keeping my fingers crossed for more!
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All credit goes to Sacred.
Jan 10, 2016 3:23 PM

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If you haven't played the VN's you are probably not going to be interested.
Jan 10, 2016 3:28 PM

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Eh, I still enjoyed TE. TE is honestly better than a lot of the mecha joke shows pushed around recently (i.e. Aldnoah Zero, Valvrave, Suisei no Gargantia).

This looks promising though.
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Jan 10, 2016 3:47 PM
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Also, I wasn't expecting it to go that heavy into the East/West German political divide, but I can dig it, I guess.

As someone who has only watched TE, it didn't surprise me all that much.

What I took from TE is that it's more about how humanity is still it's own worst enemy, with the BETA simply being a plot enabler/prompt.
Jan 10, 2016 3:48 PM

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A veteran... in the lack of common sense and understanding of the world around her lol.
Could really do without that chick.
Jan 10, 2016 3:49 PM

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TBH, I am not a fan of mecha, but will watch if it is good.
When I watch I thought "well, these monster like creature look like those from Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse" and damn sure enough it is a spin-off...I like Total Eclipse so I think I will like this too.
So far so good...
Edited: P.S. The girl in this series and Total Eclipse are so bossy and cocky and crazy and insane lol.
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Jan 10, 2016 3:58 PM

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Haven't watched Muv-Luv yet but I plan to. This first episode starts off the series strong imo. 5/5
Jan 10, 2016 3:58 PM

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The pace is a bit fast but I can live with it.

But to say the least, this was my most anticipated anime of the season. So far looking so good. I came for some TSF vs Beta action, and goddamn I got what I want.

Loved that they showcased the effectiveness of the reactive shield. Also a F-4 Phantom? Yes please.

This is a godsend for all Muv Luv Alternative fans
Jan 10, 2016 3:59 PM

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no rainbows and sunshines here

6/10
Jan 10, 2016 4:28 PM

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I didn't think this episode was good, yet I didn't dislike it. Probably because I haven't seen Muv Luv? I'll continue this for now, anyway.
Jan 10, 2016 4:35 PM

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This show is just plainly offensive to history. wtf
Jan 10, 2016 4:42 PM
*hug noises*

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I like how both this and TE are labeled as spinoffs to each other on MAL atm when neither is correct >.>
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