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Nov 1, 2014 1:51 AM
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Well, this episode got a bit intense.

And poor princess as well. With all this murders going on, I feel like the Christmas spirit from the show is going weary. Action was alright I suppose. The samurai guys and troops are what they need to watch out for. OST was decent on most parts although DEEN's visuals needs a bit of work on some face proportions. Good episode overall. Poor Akatsuki ;_;
Nov 1, 2014 2:58 AM
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Immortal killer !! and Soujirou badass so awesome. :D

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Nov 1, 2014 3:46 AM
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More people died, but some got revived.

Yonaga-san's character and the princess' talk...

Assassin girl is frustrated that the killer is not coming to her. She was able to catch up when Shimono-san's character's group is trying their best. Wow @ his expression when fighting. He kind of taught her the meaning of fighting, knowing that she's meaning to learn from him. Assassin girl is still too weak to defeat the killer, though.

She's in the dream?
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Nov 1, 2014 4:57 AM
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Akatsuki and Shiroe both died? Which means they've both lost tiny fragments of their memories...

So one of the defender guard things rebelled and stole a suit of armour... and gave it to this murderer guy?

Soujirou passed on to Akatsuki the knowledge of the teachings. But it wasn't enough.

And the murderous samurai lives to continue his assault, still unscathed.

The low levels have been evacuated, but that's not really any help when the higher level players also get killed off with ease.
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Nov 1, 2014 5:41 AM
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That was just epic

Akatsuki being a voice for Lenessia I wasn't expecting that. The friendship can grow.

How to take down something more powerful then adventures.
Nov 1, 2014 5:48 AM
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Soujirou gave me chills, never anger the nice guy.
Nov 1, 2014 5:52 AM
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Nice ep. One of the best yet :) So Shiroe and Akatasuki died at the same time? And even Naotsugu? Well should be interesting to see Shiro and Akatsuki interacting in the after life :P

Loved the interactions with Akatsuki and Lenessia ^^ Lenessia thinking about Krusty was cute and how she was talking without realizing there's someone in the room until later was lol XD

Quite the tough choice she has to make though. Either let monsters in or let that OP murderer kill all he wants.

Loved Souji's "murder him" face :3 and the faces he made during the whole fight. Really BA! and Akatsuki was awesome too but this Evil Santa is too HAX. Lol'd at his "Merry Christmas" XD
Nov 1, 2014 5:55 AM
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Awesome episode.. the raid failed and so did akatsuki's attempt at beating the murderer but atleast now they know why he is so overpowered. Is there even a way to beat someone that strong or do we need to invite tatsuya or kirito into the show?
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Nov 1, 2014 6:14 AM
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Soujirou was really badass, now I want to see Akatsuki's fight!
Nov 1, 2014 6:19 AM

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I see Souji is still as badass as ever... I didn't expect him to have a "teaching" already :) (I thought Akatsuki would be the first one to master one)

Is Kogarasumaru the living sword he used in the Nishikaze no Ryoudan manga, the one that continued fighting by itself when he was crowd-controlled?
Nov 1, 2014 6:38 AM
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crevette said:
I see Souji is still as badass as ever... I didn't expect him to have a "teaching" already :) (I thought Akatsuki would be the first one to master one)


It sounds a lot like Zen, one can think, practice and study for years on end and never reach enlightenment, then a novice can come in and in five seconds grasp it. Soujiro really can't explain it because as the old Tao line goes "the word that can be spoken is not the true word".

Akatsuki can't move on because she is stuck, primarily in the past and in the current (which is really her still be stuck in the past but finally finding something to give her hope for the future), the next episode being a dream sequence looks like she will finally confront the thing that has been preventing her from moving on.

The fun thing with enlightenment (whether spiritual, or a skill, or in playing a game) can come nearly instantaneously. One can just "get" it, and that is it. So once Akatsuki gets it, improvement will be rather dramatic.
Nov 1, 2014 6:58 AM

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Did they just die at the end? Akatsuki and Shiroe? Soujirou sure was amazing, those eyes!!
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Nov 1, 2014 7:04 AM

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bjorno said:
Did they just die at the end? Akatsuki and Shiroe? Soujirou sure was amazing, those eyes!!


Yeah, I believe they did. Which is pretty sad, though, I find it really... hmmm... well, touching, in a sense, that they both technically died together at the same time.
In the preview for the next episode it shows them together in this dream-like world, talking on a beach... I can't wait to see how this turns out.
Nov 1, 2014 7:13 AM

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The serial killer keeps on killing people and wiping full parties! Him being a people of the land using the royal guard's power!

Soujirou's anger once anyone of his guild is hurt!

Liked how Akatsuki responded to Lenessia!

Soujirou is quite the badass to fight so valiantly despite knowing he would lose. To protect his friends and able to do so in this dire circumstance! Akatsuki joining the battle but they still lost. :(

Shiroe and Naotsugu getting killed by the boss.
Nov 1, 2014 7:15 AM

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best episode so far,
This serial killer sure is strong and he
end the battle saying merry christmas
"So polite".

next episode ShiroeXAkatsuki time :P
Nov 1, 2014 7:25 AM

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Great ep. Souji is pretty amazing. I never would have peg him as the type who is on the thin line of mad and being nice. Man that battle was good even if it truly was one sided. Well hopeully Akatsuki finally gotten her answer.
Nov 1, 2014 7:42 AM

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Loved dark Souji!!! He was so badass haha His fight was pretty cool :D

So that's the 1st time Shiroe will experience death too ^^"
Nov 1, 2014 8:06 AM

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Great episode with good tension and some really good fights. The OST of this episode was really good
Nov 1, 2014 8:34 AM

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Man, that murderer is pissing me off, we need Shiroe to kill him, but sadly he's got problems of his own on the raid...
Nov 1, 2014 8:48 AM

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I'm not in the christmas mode yet.

Nov 1, 2014 9:08 AM

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I frankly thought the episode was amazing content wise. Alot happened, namely the deaths finally linking slightly confusing episode 1 to the plot development. We also got to see some pretty awesome action with Akatsuki and Sou, esp that badass teachings scene. All in all, a great episode. I did find the art came off as a little weird at some scenes though, (When Akatsuki was talking to Princess, I thought it looked a little weird. Maybe it was just my imagination, it's late here after all)
Nov 1, 2014 9:31 AM

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There's a first time for everything.
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Nov 1, 2014 9:41 AM

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Urgh.. What site did you guys watch it at? My regular one's sub is out of sync..

It's not that it's out of synch, the Crunchyroll version is using (was? I'm not sure if they fixed it) the script from episode 5 FROM THE FIRST SEASON. Talk about professionalism...
Nov 1, 2014 9:50 AM

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So just watched it and now I'm confused so why was there blood in the other episode but this one they just turn into rainbow bubbles. Are players just dying virtually and then being revived or they really dying? I saw the one girl who died in the last episode was alive in this one. So was it just an error on part of the animators? I'm really confused now.
Nov 1, 2014 9:53 AM

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Finally look like Akatsuki will be over her slump period and starting to get good.
Nov 1, 2014 9:56 AM
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Souji's evil face at the end of the guild meeting was great! Loved the way he fought the murderer, even though he went down ultimately..
Akatsuki's attempt at fighting him was indeed commendable. Too bad, that murderer is a bit too OP.

According to Kinjou, the murdered is from the Kunie clan. I wonder about his motive behind the mass killing.

Meanwhile, Shiroe is having a difficult time at his own end. Did he just die too, along with Naotsugu? :O

Good episode. Still didn't get why there were blood in the last episode. So, Kyouko is dead for real? O.o

Nov 1, 2014 10:17 AM

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dat unfitting music again at the end.

And goddamn they did a terrible job of juxtaposing the 2 scenes; what the fuck was Shiroe doing in front of the tank?

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Good episode. Still didn't get why there were blood in the last episode. So, Kyouko is dead for real? O.o


She shows up in this episode, so no.
Nov 1, 2014 10:26 AM

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Souji's evil face at the end of the guild meeting was great! Loved the way he fought the murderer, even though he went down ultimately..
Akatsuki's attempt at fighting him was indeed commendable. Too bad, that murderer is a bit too OP.

According to Kinjou, the murdered is from the Kunie clan. I wonder about his motive behind the mass killing.

Meanwhile, Shiroe is having a difficult time at his own end. Did he just die too, along with Naotsugu? :O

Good episode. Still didn't get why there were blood in the last episode. So, Kyouko is dead for real? O.o
No. Don't you remember the big boobed girl saying 'you just died so you should rest'. The blood was probably to make the tension a bit more palpable.
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Nov 1, 2014 10:34 AM

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Great ep, they need strategy and party to kill that guy..

Nov 1, 2014 11:40 AM

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This isn't even fair. How on earth are they supposed to compete with someone using the armor of the Royal Guards? XD This is actually an interesting plot point. The game is changing so much, that by the end of this all, the old game won't even be recognizable.
Nov 1, 2014 11:43 AM
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So just watched it and now I'm confused so why was there blood in the other episode but this one they just turn into rainbow bubbles. Are players just dying virtually and then being revived or they really dying? I saw the one girl who died in the last episode was alive in this one. So was it just an error on part of the animators? I'm really confused now.


First you have to remember that this show is on the NHK Educational channel shown in the afternoon, so too much blood is out of the question (though they do allow it more than most countries).

Basically they had it in the first scene to show that the guy isn't "killing" them, he mortally wounds them. A simple killing, for people who automatically revive, would mean nothing. Slowly overpowering them and then letting them soak in their own blood as they expire is more effective for what the guy wants to accomplish.

Having shown that this is what happens once, they have no need to continue showing it.
Nov 1, 2014 11:45 AM

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Good episode. Their fight was interesing. I'm looking foward to see how they're going to beat someone immortal.
Nov 1, 2014 11:56 AM

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Best episode so far.

Souji is badass, Akatsuki is cool, The fight was awesome.
Nov 1, 2014 12:06 PM
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Oh boy Souji and Akatsuki weren't doing very well and so were Shiro and the gang.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:42 PM
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This story around the killer is quite interesting to me. Both Shiroe and Akatsuki died, huh? I wonder what'll happen now. Soujirou guy was fighting well, same with Akatsuki, but I wish her to become stronger after all this, in all ways.
Nov 1, 2014 12:46 PM
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It was good to see the badass side of Soujirou.

That serial killer is strong.
Nov 1, 2014 12:50 PM
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I'm not in the christmas mode yet.


I'm not ready for Christmas yet either, lol.

Seeing a serious/protective/BA Soujiro was awesome. And Lenessia getting flustered because of Crusty is always amusing.
Nov 1, 2014 12:51 PM

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Nov 1, 2014 12:53 PM

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Oh things are getting intense now! That murderer is some scary business. But I love the "angry eyes" of this show. Like damn son, you scary. Finally the story is coming full circle from the first episode.
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Nov 1, 2014 1:12 PM

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wtb more evil soujiro, thanks :)
Nov 1, 2014 1:16 PM
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First you have to remember that this show is on the NHK Educational channel shown in the afternoon, so too much blood is out of the question (though they do allow it more than most countries).

Basically they had it in the first scene to show that the guy isn't "killing" them, he mortally wounds them. A simple killing, for people who automatically revive, would mean nothing. Slowly overpowering them and then letting them soak in their own blood as they expire is more effective for what the guy wants to accomplish.

Having shown that this is what happens once, they have no need to continue showing it.

If only it wasn't on the NHK channel... ;m;
Nov 1, 2014 1:22 PM

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I expected a tag team combo with Souji and Akatsuki... but they lost... also, the animation this episode felt a little wonky when it comes to the face of characters, especially Akatsuki and Lenessia's conversation.
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Nov 1, 2014 2:00 PM

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Inosaska said:
So just watched it and now I'm confused so why was there blood in the other episode but this one they just turn into rainbow bubbles. Are players just dying virtually and then being revived or they really dying? I saw the one girl who died in the last episode was alive in this one. So was it just an error on part of the animators? I'm really confused now.


Why can't there be blood in the game.

Maybe it was always there and we just were not shown it. Or maybe the game has a bleeding mechanic most MMORPG's do. Why was it there to create dramatic effect clearly.

You guys all just assumed there is no blood in the game.
Nov 1, 2014 2:04 PM

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That team combat was intense! The action was awesome, can't wait to see what happened to shirou's group in terms of the raid mechanics, looks like the Boss hit enrage!

Also I can't take Soujirou's face seriously, keep thinking of this. xD
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Nov 1, 2014 2:18 PM

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Pretty cool array of skills they displayed in this episode. The guards were probably built to be immortal and unbeatable :c. Too stronk

Nov 1, 2014 2:22 PM

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shit just got REAL
Nov 1, 2014 2:32 PM
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Sou's abrupt transition put me off a bit,but over all pretty interesting as always.
Nov 1, 2014 3:05 PM

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First episode from this season that I actually liked.

Villain was kinda bland but whatever.

Soujirou defeated.

Apparently Shiro and Akatsuki both died at the same time.
Nov 1, 2014 3:55 PM

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It looks like he serial criminal just added a few more victims to his collection...

So they've learned his in-game name, class, level and that he's guildless.

Akatsuki's looking for the criminal on her own eh...

Holy crap... Souji's face looked really scary... proof that he really cares for his guild members...

So a set of movable armor was stolen by someone from the Kunie clan and is in cahoots with the criminal.

Souji sure has turned into quite the awesome badass to be honest.

The fight was really intense, but Souji, Akatsuki, Shiroe, Naotsugu and their raid were all defeated...
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Nov 1, 2014 4:15 PM

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What i don't get is that, given that the Royal Guard consist of the people of the land, and the armor can even be stolen...why aren't the other Royal Guard members out looking for it?

Any specific limitations on the use of the armor can be circumvented, as the killer shows. Umless *they* don't know how. Or are for whatever reason not willing to do so.

Lenessia was funny, answering Akatsuki's questions without realizing she is talking to someone.
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