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| I like FMA2. For people who say the pacing is too rushed, the begining parts aren't really so important to spend more than one episode on, so I think the pacing is fine. And 100 eps? That's a lotI didn't think I would be that long, did the firstseries really stray that far from the manga? And is Tucker really dead? He was alive in the first one. Wait, don't tell me I want to find out. |
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| Good episode, i think the pacing is fine considering they're just catching up with the first series, but i think Nina and Alexander needed more screen time so we could get more attached to them and make it more emotional like in the first series, but it was good nonetheless. |
| I knew Shou was messed up when they first showed his pic!! Poor nina :( sad episode, but good and dark ! |
| What can I say, I absolutely loved it. I didn't think the Nina would affect me that much this time around, but when she went up to Al and started repeating "asobu", I just started bawling. I thought they handled it really, really well, and that shot of Tucker and Nina-chimera lying in a pool of blood was beautiful and haunting. As for those who say the pace is too fast, you need to keep in mind that this was only one chapter in the manga. The first series just stretched the story out considerably. Thus far, I think the pacing is just about perfect. Can't wait for the next episode! |
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| I will always hate Tucker for what he had done to his own daughter. This adaption of Nina's fate hit me a lot more than the first. Even though I was expecting it to happen, I think it was well played out. Ah and now enter Scar... |
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| is it just gonna be exactly like the first season o.0 what's the point of that o.0.. still love it though~ |
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amade0 said: is it just gonna be exactly like the first season o.0 what's the point of that o.0.. still love it though~ No its not, the first season breaks away from the original manga story right around where Al is kidnapped and runs a different path because FMA1 ran close to the original release of the manga, meaning that they didn't have much content to go by. SO... obviously now that FMA2 is following the manga closer there will be similarities between the first two series for a little bit. |
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amade0 said: is it just gonna be exactly like the first season o.0 what's the point of that o.0.. still love it though~ No. No where close. I think I, myself, have explained this several times. They will be drastically different. I thought it was a good ep. 5/5 |
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| Nice episode. I almost couldn't tell the difference. |
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| Having not seen the original series, and only reading up to next week's episode in the manga: this week's episode was dead on to what I had read in the manga. Honestly, the pacing was perfect. Everything that happened and was said in the manga, basically happened in this episode. Except for Al's really awesome line to Tucker, I was waiting for it. |
Omegaoveride said: amade0 said: is it just gonna be exactly like the first season o.0 what's the point of that o.0.. still love it though~ No its not, the first season breaks away from the original manga story right around where Al is kidnapped and runs a different path because FMA1 ran close to the original release of the manga, meaning that they didn't have much content to go by. SO... obviously now that FMA2 is following the manga closer there will be similarities between the first two series for a little bit. ahh ok, thanks for letting me know ^^ *should really read the manga ><;;* |
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| At least Tucker won't be back in this version... |
| I thought that they would jump or would censor this episode! They did correctly. Very good! |
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ironchefflip said: If you felt depressed/sad after watching this version I don't think we need to worry about pacing anymore :)I liked the way this was done, albeit I'm still depressed from sadness by it. I was kind of worried people might need more time with Nina and her dad in order to get the full impact. Thanks for the answer. |
| I would need more Nina time to be depressed, but that's because I have seen the original. |
| loved it, was realy wel done IMO, looking foward to more scar |
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| IMO the pacing of this episode was better then ep 1 and 3... Although there is still the noticeable problem of when scenes change... |
| well that general didn't last as long as he did in the other series, and neither did tucker, though can't say i'm unhappy about that, i feel really sorry for nina and alexander, but scar is going to work on his private crusade |
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| Probably the first episode I really, really liked so far. I'm happy to know Tucker won't be showing his face again. Scar's introduction was pretty awesome. Now, as long as they do everything regarding Hughes right, I'll like this season just as much as the first one. Nina and Alexander =( |
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| Am I the only one who liked Tucker in the first FMA? He was the most interesting character to me. |
noteDhero said: Am I the only one who liked Tucker in the first FMA? He was the most interesting character to me. I really liked Tucker in the first FMA. Going off the whole Nazi parallel idea that FMA the anime had, Tucker was such the Doctor Mengele. It was cool to see how twisted he really was and his ideas for experiments. This won't have that and loses kind of that feeling and flair having him killed off like that |
| I loved this episode :D. In comparision to the last 3 episodes, the pacing was much better. Really people? Some of you actually thought that the pacing is still bad? I thought it was much better, they slowed it down just a smidge so people can actually sit back and enjoy but not slow enough to make you go >snoooore<. I have to admit that I didn't bawl out my eyes like the FMA1. Either it was because there was more Nina & Alexander scenes last time, or that I was younger and more emotional XD....even so, this time around I did tear up and it was still really sad. They did a very good job at getting to the point but still providing enough screentime for the viewer to connect with the characters Specific things that I like include: the part when Nina is on Al's shoulder and they are just bouncing around, I LOVED Al's laughter..it's so adorable <3; the music when Ed was outside playing with Nina and Alexander; the ending when Tucker died and Nina nudged his lifeless hand, calling out his name and crying :(... Iahel said: Hey~ what about that saying: "Anything is possible!" I wouldn't mind having the series to be 100+ episodes long, I mean as long as they follow the manga and not put pointless fillers in :P I really doubt Bones will make it a long-runner like NaruBlePiece. they hadn't produced anything bigger than 51 ep ever. this thing is the most puzzling issue with this new FMA, cause I don't know what to wait. they really won't be able to put a whole story (even if manga will end soon) onto 50 episodes, but making it a long-time airing series is highly improbable thing. -_-" noteDhero said: Really? Hmmmm~ I can't seem to remember much of Tucker from FMA1...I think the only thing I remember was that he was arrested..? and put into a truck XD. I really liked Tucker this time around, not because he's a likable character...but like, he is much more pitiful this time around imho. Maybe that's why I didn't bawl my eyes out for Nina because he was really pitiful and felt a bit empathetic towards him. His death actually made me a bit sad...along with Nina's T_T..Am I the only one who liked Tucker in the first FMA? He was the most interesting character to me. |
robbydesuApr 26, 2009 9:01 PM
martin03345 said: I really liked Tucker in the first FMA. Going off the whole Nazi parallel idea that FMA the anime had, Tucker was such the Doctor Mengele. It was cool to see how twisted he really was and his ideas for experiments. This won't have that and loses kind of that feeling and flair having him killed off like that Totally agree. It was one of those greater parallels that I loved to make in the show. I don't want to say the show is loosing it's depth since it's very clear to me now just how different the manga and the first FMA were, but if Brotherhood really is just doing the manga straightforward as far as presentation goes, it may be too light for me, and ultimately not have a lot of what I did appreciate. So now, I'm just going to look at this as though I'm not aware of previous FMA universes. edit: In after robby...Shou showed up later having furthered his chimera experiment on not only himself, but prisoners using the fake philosoper's material, if I remember correctly. |
| great so far. however, i was hoping for more time w/ this. it kind of seems like a lot of material is being put into each episode. i would have wanted to have seen more of tucker and nina first. but still, the way ed took to tucker was pretty badass. |
| This is the best episode so far. The pacing for the first time felt right. I didn't like this arc in the first FMA (too much Nina air time, She was kind of annoying to me) but this episode was kind of better. Still wish that the whole quality of the show was as good as the first one. I'm looking forward to better episodes. |
kokuroApr 26, 2009 9:56 PM
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| Whoa, what a change of plot so sudendly, but seriously, that Mr. Tucker is fucked up in the head, he even transmuted his daughter and wife for the title. |
| it was so sad even the second time!!! :( gah it was something i wanted but didn't want to see again if people get what i mean. Brilliant episode though. Can't really say much else except that i can't wait to see more. |
| So let's recap; Episode 6 in FMA1 is one of my favorites. The reason for this is that YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING. Besides one or two glimpses of Tucker's anxiety for the test, there's none of the discussion of how poor he was, and how much he wants to avoid it as in Episode 4 of FMA2. Also, more of the episode is devoted to creating a very happy, breezy, idyllic feeling. It's just ridiculously sweet, and Ed and Al playing with Nina and the dog feels very natural and free. Here, it just feels way more predictable, and the atmosphere foreshadows what's going to happen. It doesn't have nearly the same shock value. If I hadn't seen FMA1, I would have liked this episode. But knowing what they did the first time around, and seeing how inferior this is just makes me shake my head. It also brings up another problem with the series; what's the point for the audience that has seen the original in seeing the same thing when they already know what's going to happen? |
Liberal said: AH!! I almost forgot that... they should have showed it! D:Only complaint was the lack of badass Al's line to Tucker, but oh well. Ninaaa~ TT^TT Tucker that bastard I still remember when I read the happenings of this episode from the manga... I was shocked and depressed. =_= Not this time though because I was mentally prepared. Best episode so far I got to say! |
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| Not as sad as the original FMA when this happened; maybe coz it was rushed, lol. Still, not a bad episode~ |
Fai said: chaostrik3r said: agree the pacing felt way off. lol? How much should they have covered? Half of chapter? two pages? Well, now I feel that noobs who loved the craptastic fillers of fma1 will complain about pacing forever. Fai that's just not very nice calling people who can't help but get annoyed about knowing each and every new step that's going to happen in a series a noob. However, I must say that I actually enjoyed this episode. It's hard to believe it myself. This episode was able to capture the most important parts of the original episode 6 pertaining to Nina and Father Tucker. The comedic elements didn't hurt this episode like the 'small' jokes in the past three either. Scar didn't seem to be as effective in this episode, but I'm hopeful now since others have stated that they are just trying to recap the first series so they can move onto a new story arc. I'm beginning to think that comparing the two is pointless. It does still feel a bit rushed if you are comparing it to FMA1 but I'm starting to look at this series in a different perspective. I think I liked this episode because the director was finally able to incorporate the feelings of the first series to his advantage and use them to remake a sad episode even more tragic. I'm hoping that the next episodes are going to use a similar formula. I guess they have been all along, but this was the first ep. so far that worked for me. I do still feel though that ShaolinRibiero makes some interesting points but this episode has given me a little more perspective into the direction that Yasuhiro Irie is attempting to go in. |
Orion1Apr 27, 2009 1:00 AM
| A bit annoying to rewatch the same stuff. The episode was harder to watch this time, since i knew her dad is such a scumbag. |
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| I enjoyed this episode, glad their breezing through the old material, i prefer the original anime. Cant wait for the new manga material, for those complaining about to much of a fast pace, they should slow down once they get on to the story. |
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| That was a heavy episode. Using his own daughter and wife like that. ;__; This will be great if they continue showing episodes with such kinds of impacts. |
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ShaolinRibiero said: So let's recap; Episode 6 in FMA1 is one of my favorites. The reason for this is that YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING. Besides one or two glimpses of Tucker's anxiety for the test, there's none of the discussion of how poor he was, and how much he wants to avoid it as in Episode 4 of FMA2. Also, more of the episode is devoted to creating a very happy, breezy, idyllic feeling. It's just ridiculously sweet, and Ed and Al playing with Nina and the dog feels very natural and free. Here, it just feels way more predictable, and the atmosphere foreshadows what's going to happen. It doesn't have nearly the same shock value. If I hadn't seen FMA1, I would have liked this episode. But knowing what they did the first time around, and seeing how inferior this is just makes me shake my head. It also brings up another problem with the series; what's the point for the audience that has seen the original in seeing the same thing when they already know what's going to happen? Well the point of this new FMA is to follow the manga's plot seeing as the first one didn't, so after a few more episodes the plot should diverge and really take off. And that is also the point why they are speeding everything up, for those who already saw the original. Hope the next episode has some nice fighting between Ed and scar. |
| I liked the episode. Everything seems to be getting better. The music that played in the library while Alexander pounced Ed was great and had me thinking that the original series OST might still get a run for it's money. The pacing was a little off but completely understood. The original series takes so much time to develop the characters. If this is your 1st time into FMA you might not care as much about Nina and Alexander, but my fiance watched it and this is her 1st trip into FMA and she nearly cried so I think they're still doing a good job. The comedic points could be better done, though the bits with Alexander and Ed were awesome. Shou still came off as creepy. Scar was always one of my favorite characters in FMA. I hope they do him more justice. And I was a little disappointed in how they portray how he kills in this series. I expected a little more of an explosion, call me weird but i think it would have worked to give him more of a ferocity if his victims heads popped. And i'm not too into violence, i just think it would be better for the character. But i can see why they would do it like that. With this episode i'm not looking forward to Hughes T_T I'm just hoping the animation gets a little better, and i know it will.The fights/ action seems well animated. I look forward to Greed fights. I loved the shot with Ed and Shou in the glasses on the floor. |
| I wasn't looking forward to watch this episode, as it was about the transmutating of Nina and Alexander and it's just to sad. At least one of the most painful scenes is done, now there's still Hughes... Luckily Scar let her die in peace. =( I like the tempo this is going. Way better than the original, in which everything went like... slow. |
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| You know, since I see in like every other post, complaints about either pacing or clearly biased opinons how the anime is not as good as FMA1...I have a few complaints myself. First of all, what is with this odd complaint about how the animation is bad? I mean, I'm not saying that the animation is godly, but it really looks like the animation is getting better o__o;; Second, I think people really needs to stop referring to FMA1 as the "original" anime. What do you mean by that? Technically FMA:B >IS< the "original" anime since it's following the manga. I mean, you can either be using that as a way to just differentiate the two animes.....but it really sounds like a derogative term you use for something you think is "better". If the latter is the case, then what is the whole point of watching if you come into watching FMA:B with such a set black and white way of thinking? You'll just come into watching this anime, looking for the faults rather than it's strengths. noteDhero said: I literally sat here and thought about it (because my memory is just that bad XD) and I DO have some memory of that! Wow, I can't believe I forgot that...when I think back now..that seemed a bit pointless maybe that's why I can't remember? I mean I think it played up on the whole atrocities of war...? (correct me if I'm wrong) but other than that, when I watched that part I think I kinda went, "Oh wow, that's so sad..he just went insane." edit: In after robby...Shou showed up later having furthered his chimera experiment on not only himself, but prisoners using the fake philosoper's material, if I remember correctly. The more I think about it, the more the death of Tucker in FMA:B made more sense to me. I think in a sad way, his immediate death sort of redeemed himself a bit more. Maros128 said: Actually, Scar felt much "tougher" this time around, I don't know how...maybe it's his voice, how he looks or the animation...but that's what I thought. And I was really surprised. In FMA1, I just kinda felt annoyed by him but at the same time I felt sorry for him. His introduction this time seemed more...believable? I don't even know how I can explain it XD All I know is that my "first" impression of him this time is slightly differently than from FMA1 (a good impression nonetheless!)Scar was always one of my favorite characters in FMA. I hope they do him more justice. And I was a little disappointed in how they portray how he kills in this series. I expected a little more of an explosion, call me weird but i think it would have worked to give him more of a ferocity if his victims heads popped. And i'm not too into violence, i just think it would be better for the character. But i can see why they would do it like that. With this episode i'm not looking forward to Hughes T_T I'm just hoping the animation gets a little better, and i know it will.The fights/ action seems well animated. I look forward to Greed fights. I loved the shot with Ed and Shou in the glasses on the floor. Orion1 said: What you said in the spoiler tag, I completely agree with! I also think that the fact that it was caught off guard was what made it so sad. I think I liked this episode because the director was finally able to incorporate the feelings of the first series to his advantage and use them to remake a sad episode even more tragic. I'm hoping that the next episodes are going to use a similar formula. I guess they have been all along, but this was the first ep. so far that worked for me. I do still feel though that ShaolinRibiero makes some interesting points but this episode has given me a little more perspective into the direction that Yasuhiro Irie is attempting to go in. It's actually really hard for some of us to judge upon whether or not this anime is truly good or not especially if you watched the FMA1 before. Most of us are so biased from FMA1 that sometimes we just miss certain details and forget to watch FMA:B as an anime in itself. |
robbydesu said: It's actually really hard for some of us to judge upon whether or not this anime is truly good or not especially if you watched the FMA1 before. Most of us are so biased from FMA1 that sometimes we just miss certain details and forget to watch FMA:B as an anime in itself. this is very true, and though stuff like this episode didn't suprise me like last time i still think the whole thing is brilliantly done. It's really unfair to judge the quality of this show in comparison to the other series. People should really judge it on how well done it is as a series rarther than a comparison. |
| Ed shoud've killed Tucker. I mean, what kind of bastard would fuse his wife and daughter just to keep a job? :| |
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ShaolinRibiero said: So let's recap; Episode 6 in FMA1 is one of my favorites. The reason for this is that YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING. Besides one or two glimpses of Tucker's anxiety for the test, there's none of the discussion of how poor he was, and how much he wants to avoid it as in Episode 4 of FMA2. Also, more of the episode is devoted to creating a very happy, breezy, idyllic feeling. It's just ridiculously sweet, and Ed and Al playing with Nina and the dog feels very natural and free. Here, it just feels way more predictable, and the atmosphere foreshadows what's going to happen. It doesn't have nearly the same shock value. If I hadn't seen FMA1, I would have liked this episode. But knowing what they did the first time around, and seeing how inferior this is just makes me shake my head. Actually this sums up some of my feelings for this episode really well. I did like some parts of this episode, but overall I felt it could have been paced into 2 episodes instead of 1. It's exactly as you said....there wasn't really the time to get to know the characters and fall into the trap of 'They're such nice people'. The amount of foreshadowing done in this episode kind of ruined that shock value in my opinion. If anyone was seeing this for the first time, I'm sure they would have suspected Tucker right from the start. Still..I'm not going to dwell on it. I'm pretty excited to see the new material, so I know why they're going at a fast pace. I'm just a little sad that this could have been done better as it was one of my favourite arcs from the first series. |
MistressMorbid said: Still..I'm not going to dwell on it. I'm pretty excited to see the new material, so I know why they're going at a fast pace. I'm just a little sad that this could have been done better as it was one of my favourite arcs from the first series. One chapter(with anime original additions) per episode now counts as "fast pace"... yet another one -.- |
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Fai said: MistressMorbid said: Still..I'm not going to dwell on it. I'm pretty excited to see the new material, so I know why they're going at a fast pace. I'm just a little sad that this could have been done better as it was one of my favourite arcs from the first series. One chapter(with anime original additions) per episode now counts as "fast pace"... yet another one -.- Well, no...don't get me wrong. I know a lot of people have been complaining about a fast pace, but I haven't seen that at all. I realize that the first series had a lot of fillers and stretched some arcs longer than they originally were. This is the first time that I've felt that 2 episodes would benefit this arc (for reasons stated above). I think the current pacing is just fine, but in my opinion Nina didn't get as much screentime as required to build more of a 'relationship' with her, if you know what I mean. Especially when considering first-time watchers. I just thought it was more dramatic in the first series. :) |
| Obviously it was a bit too short ^^. Though I'm still touched by what happened to Nina. 5/5, love this episode. |
| Ah ! This episode is incredibly good but also terrible ! ^^ I mean... Shou Tucker is one of the biggest bastard of the anime ! I can't bear it ! Scar is coming and I'm looking forward to his next battles in episode 5. By the way, Basque Gran had quite a ridiculous role... Ok, he's not so important, but he didn't deserve a lot of airing time. I was also happy to see all the team of Roy and this stupid Yoki =D But Nina... Nina... Argh... A bit less horrible than in the first anime I think, but still... |
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