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Dec 26, 2013 8:33 AM
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Oo, finale aired earlier than usual. What a fight though. Obviously, I was cheering for Haruto and L Elf the whole time. Poor Haruto though, dem memories ;.;

The power of friendship~
Oh well, guess can't always have happy endings. Dat Haruto statue. LOL.
Dec 26, 2013 8:36 AM
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Cain became all (except KajiKaji's character) of the pilots' enemy. Main guy loses memory fast. Wow @ how KajiKaji's character died. Now the enemy group is stating that it's humans' fault and they created that society ("witch" incident in history). Main guy in Elf-san's body talking about his feeling while quickly losing his memory is...

ELISA's season 1 ED? Cain dead, and main guy completely lost memory then died shortly hearing Elf-san said he's his friend. The two pilots' siblings reunited. Akira's narration. The wedding of president and vice president?? There's also statues of the deads? And Childhood girl befriending aliens while wearing the guy's pilot outfit??
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Dec 26, 2013 8:43 AM
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I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING

SHOKO WON DA VALVRAVE
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So, I dropped Valvrave during the second season since I couldn't survive it any longer.

How glorious was this mess?
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Dec 26, 2013 9:13 AM
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hahaha , cant stop laughing
Dec 26, 2013 9:13 AM
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Marow said:
So, I dropped Valvrave during the second season since I couldn't survive it any longer.

How glorious was this mess?

Did you make it to episode 21? You have to see 21.

Also fuck this episode god damn what the hell was that
Dec 26, 2013 9:46 AM
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x eins dies too ;(
well it seems akira forgave shouko I hope she punched her befor a few times
was really sad too see haruto without any memry left poor l- elf he was really down too to see him like that

but good ending all in all now that like most wanted q-vier and Cain are deathsadly shouko is still alive

and the child is now from ???
Dec 26, 2013 10:07 AM
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At least L-Elf and A-Drei survived. Now I'm patiently waiting for subs.
Dec 26, 2013 10:22 AM
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This ending

THIS FUCKING ENDING
Dec 26, 2013 10:57 AM

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PerlaNemesis said:
At least L-Elf and A-Drei survived. Now I'm patiently waiting for subs.


This so much!

Only thing that ticked me off about the ending is whose kid is that? It has to be either L Elf's or A Drei's cause the hair color, but now that I think about it they called him prince in the series? And A Drei was royalty if I remember correctly so it has to be his child? I don't know I'm confused and I doubt subs will help.

9/10 I loved Valvrave even if it was just one huge trainwreck. xD
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Dec 26, 2013 10:58 AM

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I...I... I don't have words to describe how I feel Q_Q
I never expected this kind of ending..... Well, not always can be happy ending.
Dec 26, 2013 11:29 AM

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the mother could also be kriemhild and the father a drei
Dec 26, 2013 12:06 PM
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Will there be a season 3?
Dec 26, 2013 12:26 PM

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what I missed is a lil explanation on the end what are the pilots doing now that the live in piece and soo on + a lil sadness over the death of haruto and thunder from everyone
Dec 26, 2013 12:30 PM
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So many plot holes... Who the hell are the Golden 7? Who's that prince? Who was future Saki fighting back in season 1?
Dec 26, 2013 12:36 PM
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Is Haruto truly dead? I get the feeling that the prince is actually Haruto. I don't know how, just a gut feeling.
Dec 26, 2013 12:42 PM

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My fears were confirmed... the anime ended without explaining a lot of things LOL


5/10 sorry VVV


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Dec 26, 2013 12:42 PM

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pffffttt whatthefuck this isn't even satisfying >_>

that 'friend' scene which makes me unable to hate the whole ep.

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So many plot holes... Who the hell are the Golden 7? Who's that prince? Who was future Saki fighting back in season 1?
Dec 26, 2013 3:22 PM
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i'm disappointed enough with KNIM latest chapter and they gave this anime this kind of endling like the same ending of CG where the main guy dies. FML and SMH!
Dec 26, 2013 3:40 PM

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Trainwreck ending... all those plot holes are impossible to ignore. I hope there will be some OVA of some sort to explain the establishment of the Galactic Empire.
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Dec 26, 2013 3:58 PM
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KAMIOPPAI said:
Trainwreck ending... all those plot holes are impossible to ignore. I hope there will be some OVA of some sort to explain the establishment of the Galactic Empire.


The trainwreck ending makes sense if there's actually a 3rd season so maybe?
Dec 26, 2013 4:17 PM
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Seem like the last ep was good... but shock at end of of show...
Wish it could carry on

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Dec 26, 2013 4:20 PM
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Well Ill try to clear most of the plot holes that were left in the last episode
The current year in the series is "71 OF THE TRUE CALLENDAR" also known as the "0 year of the Third Galactic Reich" THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!
Third Galactic Reich is the country established by the end of the series

The date in the future scenes with the little kid is the 221 Year of the Third Galactic Reich basicly 221 years after the events of the series.This means that the boy is not a child of the current charcters but rather theyr descendant and a Prince to the country they created.
The boy closely resemble L-elf in hair style and colour but has the same eye colour as Haruto

The Golden Seven are the pilots of the Valvraves few that are known to us are Rukino Saki there is a scene in the 7th episode of the 1st season fighting vs someone
Renboukoji Akira she is shown alive at the end of the last episde in the 2nd season in the future scene
Renboukoji Satomi he is shown in the future scenes in the year 221 which means he to has become a pilot
Sashinami Shoko she is show wearing the red suit that Haruto used to wear in the future scene in the 221 year in the last episode of the 2nd season which means that she has become the pilot of the unit-01

There will be a manga adaptation of the series bundled in a one volume scheduled for release on 4 Feb 2014 (wiki source)
There is also ongoin manga Kakumeiki Valvrave - Ryuusei no Otome/Ryuusei no Valkyrie that follows Rukino Saki story maybe there will be more answers to our questions


Thank for clear understanding... At this rate I think I go for manga more than anime as it more understand, and not too short ending... =/
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KanameFujiwara said:
KAMIOPPAI said:
Trainwreck ending... all those plot holes are impossible to ignore. I hope there will be some OVA of some sort to explain the establishment of the Galactic Empire.


The trainwreck ending makes sense if there's actually a 3rd season so maybe?


As it show there seem to be no 3rd season so far.... so I don't know, I think we have to wait longer to find out about this question to be answer...
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Dec 26, 2013 4:36 PM
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The Cause of Valvrave Liberator will\is going to have 3rd season is that Haruto Tokishima is not dead yet and there is no point to show his statue in theThe Ending of 2nd Season, So that I think Shoukou will find him somewhere in 3rd season.
Dec 26, 2013 4:39 PM

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I think people doesn't understand how VVV trainwreck born.

Great anime.
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Dec 26, 2013 4:51 PM

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Dem Plot holes though. What a laugh.

4.5/10.
Dec 26, 2013 4:51 PM

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No doubt in my mind now that there will be a season 3. Most obvious transition ever.
Dec 26, 2013 6:53 PM

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No one wants to comment on the green aliens at the end?
Number 7 jumps to 53 after 211 years.
Please Okouchi, are you kidding me?

Basically, loss end; promotes discussion.
Now wait for manga, novel, or whatever for official answers...

As far as for future VVV anime, I think it might be up to the popularity of Nana Mizuki and T.M.Revolution (ry
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This series was a trainwreck to begin with, it got better and better toward the end of this season -- then somehow screwed it all up by skipping a lot of things in the last episode. I personally feel like it's not as if the ending was horrible. The plotholes were also not as horrendous as some make it out to be, though some were obviously there. Personally, I wish they didn't project Haruto's death so much. It was so expected that by the end whatever possible sentiments were already gone.

It could've been way better if they forgot about the OP and used that 1:30 for additional narration at the end. Overall though, this was an unexpectedly decent series. Judging by this last episode, I doubt a 3rd season is forthcoming. Of course, it'd be nice to see a third season fill up the 200 year gap, but I just wouldn't count on it. 8/10
Dec 26, 2013 9:13 PM
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Well that was a fun ride, but I feel like it was too rushed for the finale. Would have liked more backstory into Pino and Prue as well as who the future prince is.
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Dec 26, 2013 9:18 PM

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Valvrave will go down in anime history as of one of the greatest thing to ever be produced.

Plot holes, plot holes everywhere.
Dec 26, 2013 9:25 PM

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i have a feeling that haruto is alive just not in his body because when you die from losing your memories you die right then and there so idk hope for season 3 lolz
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So rushed, but nice ride none the less. I feel like they could've shorten the Earth Arc a bit and add an extra episode to the finale.

So the Golden 7 confirmed to be the the valvrave pilots: Haruto, Saki, Inuzuka-senpai, Yamada, Akira + Shoko and Satomi? I don't like how Shoko is a pilot though, she needs more screen time to redeem herself... Akira's narration don't count. I also want to see the future valvraves... Satomi probably pilot a new one and VVV I is probably upgraded like VVV IV...?
Dec 26, 2013 9:47 PM
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The only thing this episode had going for it: HarutoxL-elf. And I'd never even cared to that degree. Saki and Shouko were a mass of unimportant.

RIP Season 3- that would have had this show so much better.
Dec 26, 2013 9:48 PM

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Actually a satisfying ending, Sunrise showed how to save a trainwreck and make it entertaining, of course the plot is still a disaster, but I'm giving it a 6.5/10 for the enjoyment and because L-Elf is fucking awesome, oh, and for all those massive killings.
Dec 26, 2013 9:49 PM

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So Haruto's dead?! And it looks like Shoko is now piloting Haruto's valvrave. Confused at the end, but oh well. Good series.
Dec 26, 2013 9:50 PM

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That was just awful.

But I guess I can look forward to it being on a SRW game someday... maybe.
Dec 26, 2013 9:52 PM

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What's with the WTF ending XD So damn rushed.

The fight with Cain wasn't bad, predictable with Haruto losing all his memories.
Nice seeing L-Elf call him friend.

But nothing about the future was explained. So whose kid is the kid??? Even Shouko became immortal?? WTF?
So there are even more possibilities XD...L-ElfxShouko/Saki...A-DreixSaki? Or maybe even Haruto when he raped Saki lol XD...But Saki didn't seem to treat him as her son.

All in all much better than season 1 but the ending was disappointing :(...7.5-8/10
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As someone who has followed this show and generally enjoyed it (episodes around #5 notwithstanding) I don't think it's possible to not be disappointed in this finale. A lot of unresolved and under explored potential in this show that makes me feel it must have been cut short due to lack of popularity/ratings. It happens a lot to Western Sci-Fi series I've enjoyed in the past so it's nothing new as far as the feeling of disappointment goes.

I could blame the writer somewhat, but honestly it seems more fare to blame the relatively short episode count like I have for a lot of shows that have ended up somewhat disappointing in the end. Oh well at least I still have Build Fighters and Buddy Complex has no Aniplex or crazy ass Okouchi that I know of and if there's any trend I'm noticing it's that Sunrise seems to do better with their mecha shows when they supervise everything on their own as a producer like with Unicorn and Build Fighters than when they let other producers take the lead like Level 5 and Aniplex as was the case with Gundam AGE and Valvrave respectively.
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This show was one huge trainwreck, but I still enjoyed it... for the most part. This ending was unsatisfying.
Dec 26, 2013 9:59 PM

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Enjoyed it, but the ending was shit -_-

But it's unlikely we'll get a season 3

Would've been interesting since Harutos dad still has Harutos DNA map so he can create more Harutos ^^
Evil Haruto army, anyone? :P
Dec 26, 2013 10:02 PM
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Marow said:
So, I dropped Valvrave during the second season since I couldn't survive it any longer.

How glorious was this mess?


Actually, the true mess was the ending(and the wasted season 1 eps), if looked at overall. The ending was fine, but full of holes. The love triangle makes you cringle, but the L-Elf and Haruto friendship moments were cool. They were the only thing this dull finale had going for it. KV had quite a few shining moments. But since you dipped out, you probably don't know. Not that it means anything, since they let it go down a hole in just 30 minutes of 'wrap it up' anime television. Definitely not the the Majestic Prince ending I was expecting. Too bad...too sad....oh well. On to my next machine obsession. I wonder if any good mecha is airing next season?..And that backlog of Demonbane...what to do? What to do?

Already these characters are becoming a thing of the past.
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Marow said:
So, I dropped Valvrave during the second season since I couldn't survive it any longer.

How glorious was this mess?


Actually, the true mess was the ending(and the wasted season 1 eps), if looked at overall. The ending was fine, but full of holes. The love triangle makes you cringle, but the L-Elf and Haruto friendship moments were cool. They were the only thing this dull finale had going for it. KV had quite a few shining moments. But since you dipped out, you probably don't know. Not that it means anything, since they let it go down a hole in just 30 minutes of 'wrap it up' anime television. Definitely not the the Majestic Prince ending I was expecting. Too bad...too sad....oh well. On to my next machine obsession. I wonder if any good mecha is airing next season?..And that backlog of Demonbane...what to do? What to do?

Already these characters are becoming a thing of the past.


I wouldn't say that it was filled with holes so much as it felt like a lot of things could have been more fleshed out and explored and thus elevated the show overall if it had just been given more episodes.

There's Buddy Complex by the way that I mentioned that starts next season and sort of gives the impression that Sunrise is trying a do over on the whole 2 cour mecha series thing on their own terms and without Aniplex similar to how Build Fighters is clearly a do over of the whole Kids show themed Gundam thing without Level 5. People have already pointed out some similarities in designs and what appears to be some character dynamic ideas with Valvrave only somehow I don't figure it turns out quite the same in approach. It's already clearly further along in production than Valvrave was when it was first announced for starters and looks like it will be less about trying to surprise and shock you ala Okouchi's style of writing and more down to Earth, at least as far as shows about Giant Robots go.
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Valvrave was a fun show for all the lulz and "holy shit" moments. I liked this season better than the first one. It's a shame they rushed the epilogue without explaining more stuff.

A-Drei caught the flower bouquet at Satomi's wedding. Maybe the Prince is his son after all. XD
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I knew that this would be rushed if they tried to squeeze it all into one episode, and it certainly was... But I enjoyed it. Bittersweet endings are usually pretty great in my eyes, because its much more realistic, in life very rarely does everyone get a happy ending. So I think it was fitting that Haruto died, sad, but fitting. He fought all the way to the end, even when he was giving up the very things that made him human.

The epilogue scene was very rushed, I could forgive the actual episode, but the epilogue was the stuff I really wanted to see them delve into! I guess we can assume that the prince is a descendant of A-Drei, and Kreimhild based off of the fact that Saki never refers to the Prince as her son or a descendant.

I feel like 2-3 more episodes describing the epilogue would have been perfect, but I suppose where they ended it was fine. Leaves a lot up to the imagination, which isn't always a bad thing. I guess we can assume that Shoko, and Satomi (and maybe a few others) decided to become immortal in order to continue fighting for what they believed in. Which was certainly a nice change for Satomi who usually seemed so obsessed with himself, its nice to him trying to help everyone out. (Plus he got married to Takahi! Who expected there to be a marriage in the finale?!)

At least Shoko was able to accept Haruto's death, I'm sure it destroyed her, but she's a very strong person, and it was nice to see her still around in the epilogue! Plus we got to see future Akira, what more could you want?! But, L-Elf and A-Drei both died since they couldn't become immortal....

Anyway, I really liked this series both the first and second seasons, its unfortunate that the last episode had to be rushed so badly...If they could find a way to make OVA's of the beginning of the Third Galactic Empire, then it would probably net a 10 from me...

Valvrave was a fantastic show, and I'm certainly going to miss it. Haruto Tokishima, gone but not forgotten.

9/10

Edit: I still want to know who the Golden Seven are... (Unless it's Saki, Shoko, Satomi, Akira, Haruto, Thunder, Inuzaka... which would make sense...)
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bitter sweet ending, R.I.P. Haruto, its nice to see Shouko became the pilot of Valvrave 1
Dec 26, 2013 10:10 PM
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LOL omg don't get me started on KNIM, ruined my Christmas ahaha
Dec 26, 2013 10:12 PM
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This last episode feels like paying a prostitute for my first time, a little ackward but very exciting and at the very end when I'm about to climax, she leaves, leaving behind a bottle of hand lotion and a very confused boy.
Dec 26, 2013 10:15 PM

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Well, I knew Haruto was going to die in the end. I didn't expect it to be like this though. I sort of liked the ending but the fact that Shoko becomes the pilot for unit 1 was eh... Decent series for me, since i never watched a lot of mecha anime and this one interested me quite a bit. I wished they explained a bit more though..
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