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SayakaMagica said: Running around town like a maniac before going to school. Sure, that's gonna help a lot. I see I'm not the only one who noticed that random woman in the red shirt had a moustache. Not to mention that classmate of theirs who looked like a crossdressing man. I was wondering too about that "woman" with the moustache...hmm. Takao is such an idiot...just throw that thing away already, it't not like people are going to go through trash and find it. And that lunch money scene. It's lunch money...that girl made it seem as if it was the end of the world. Was that library scene in the manga? I can't seem to remember Takao being forced to wear Saeki's gym clothes that early on. Anyways, I think the anime does a good job of making Nakamura seem crazy, I wanted to punch her so many times in this episode because she's so creepy and demanding. |
| Marvellous! That scene in bookstore was masterpiece. And sexual tension between Kasuga and Nakamura is growing on and on. And this show is getting better and better, this way it would go top for spring season. But Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch ? Why this Dick's book? |
| Ahh~ Sweet sweet nostalgia of my time in middle school. Where half of my classmates were super pervs (probably out of curiosity if anything) and the other half were perfect innocence.... the teachers always misinterpreting the concept of situations, the goofy slightly spazzy best friend with his followers.. the kid with the big vocabulary who appears more mature than everyone else but is equally as deviant.. How people are just straight to the point and uncaring for how they present themselves.. ahahaha The feeling to need to yell out your emotional pain "AHHHH!!!", been there.. done that.. ah yes.. I'm liking this show simply because I can relate to the atmosphere, hahaha. 3 out of 5. It was OK. 5 out of 10, average. I'm not really seeing anything out of the ordinary that would make me want to raise it any higher... but I'm also not seeing anything that would make me hate it It kinda seems like an anime that could have, or should I say. WOULD HAVE been real people if it wasn't for the fact that the characters are just young teens... they definitly look older to me most likely because they are rotoscoped from adults? |
GhostonyApr 20, 2013 12:45 PM
| sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds |
| So this episode covered all of chapter 3, and most of chapter 4. So the pacing has most definitely picked up since the first episode. There are certain parts I'm hoping to see so I'm glad we're not moving so slowly anymore. The library scene was weird to me, I laughed a little bit, even though that wasn't my reaction when I first saw the scene in the manga. Seeing it in motion with voices just gives me a different feel. It looks like no one picked up on how pretentious Kasuga sounded when he tried giving Nakamura the book. Saying "no one understands me or this book." I couldn't help but think 'pfft you hardly understand the book yourself'. Will always love Nakamura's reaction to this, slapping the book out of his hand. |
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| Well this anime is certainly going for something completely different than the manga. It's something like a distorted reflection of the manga that gets the basic events right but then stretches and distorts the feeling behind them. The pacing is just god awful here mostly because it's attempts to build a mood are so heavy handed and obvious, but that's the way this anime goes, it's a troll to the very end. The mangaka and the creators knew they wanted to create a spectacle and they obviously didn't care if the attention they got was negative. At the moment I can't help but think of the anime as anything but being so bad it's good. It's enjoyable enough to watch but mostly to make fun of all the weird shit it does and weird decisions it makes with the material. It has this weird dichotomy where it is trying way to hard at somethings and then not trying at all others. Not to mention all the characters walk around like they have something stuck up their ass. The best thing is anime has going for it is the ending which would fit perfectly in a horror anime...but here it's one of those things where it looks like the anime is trying to hard to build an atmosphere that just isn't there. It wants so bad to be super moody but it doesn't know how communicate that angst quite right. The manga has a lot of angst but it's tempered and developed with a lot more finesse where as the anime hits you in the head with it like a ball peen hammer trying to force the emotions on the viewer. I would say the anime tried something different and failed but I don't think anyone involved ever intended for this to be successful. |
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| This episode, with the exception of the library scene and THAT WATER, looked much worse than the previous ones. Lots of stills that, instead of being creepy, just looked bad. And the pacing and overall directing... Will any episode ever be as good as the first? I'm getting more and more disappointed. |
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| The pace seems to be picking up. They really know how to set the mood and make you want to hate Nakamura. The stills really felt off, I guess they're just trying to save some money since they know they won't get many DVD sales. |
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why always the same pose... omg O_O this guy has such a trollface ahahah |
| I believe that in one of the earlier episode threads, someone made the point that Nakamura may start to look more attractive as the series progressed. I find myself agreeing more and more with that position. For example, she looks much more attractive in the frame at 13:30 than her unflattering appearance in the first episode. Perhaps as Nakamura and Kasuga get closer (maybe even the developing of feelings of lust/attraction for Nakamura?) and their relationship becomes more sexualized, the animation will depict her more attractively in relative terms to, say, the way it depicts Saeki. |
| Really? The Kasuga wasn't able to overpower Nakamura when she tried to strip off all his clothes? And the girl at the end was able to turn the tide of the conversation with that accusation? The plot was getting good before but its turned a little silly in this ep so I took it less seriously now. Hopefully, that'll change. Kasuga seems to be conflicted with his feelings towards Nakamura. As long as their relationship is developing, my interest remains high. |
| ^ hmm... maybe there are more to the true nature of this robbery, or the true culprit than that. Nakamura may know something but she cannot let it out yet |
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| 5/5 because of glorious Nakamura. "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HERYOU!?" That library scene was great. Kasuga is weak as shit. Thoulin said: why always the same pose... omg O_O this guy has such a trollface ahahah LOL. I only took notice of that in this episode too. |
| Wow, that was crazy, if it continues like this our dear MC is going to snap really soon, and that library scene, oh and wait, DAT END, the move that girl did was really mean, and I'm glad Kasuga tried to defend Nakamura (even tho I don't know did she stole the money or not). Can't wait for next episode. |
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| Confession bear here: "I'm watching it for the ending sequences that transit into the ending song" )) |
| I want rape Kasuga... pounding my penis in his ass with all the weight of my body until it break. |
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amginex said: thinking back, that would actually be really nice if that happened.bippo said: 5layer said: Season 2.This show isn't gonna get very far with the pace it's going at. Just how much manga did they plan to cover like this... i hope this season ends with chap33. unless a 2nd season is announced, then the more the merrier also thinking back, if the |
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| bad luck brian still pretty slow-moving, what a deep hole he is trapped in. |
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| OMG Nakamura and Kasuga library scene 0__0. Is Nakamura a Yandare??? I am getting this creepy yandare vibe from her. |
AnimeFan500Apr 20, 2013 8:17 PM
| Clothing ninja. So many still frames. Stupid-ass classmates. Can't wait for next episode. |
| Still the most interesting anime this season. |
| Just realized this show is being done by ZEXCS. Not surprised. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
bastek66 said:  What the fuck!? I didn't realize this was hentai. |
Wecc said: All Hail HaXXspetten King of the Loli Traps! |
MelbShaw said: If Nakamura looked the generic moe then people would fap off to the rape scene eh? Probably, since some people seem to think rape is a joke. Really, this art style is good for rape. It's ugly as fuck, horrifies you just to glimpse it, and is in no way "fapable" by a sane human being... |
Wecc said: All Hail HaXXspetten King of the Loli Traps! |
| Forcibly changing someone's clothes isn't rape. I'm sure it's something, but not rape. More importantly, the fuck? That was so weird, haha. First few minutes were stupid, but the rest was pretty good. The animation seemed off this episode, outside of that the library scene. Pace was fine. |
JoshApr 20, 2013 10:43 PM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| oh my god, I didn't expect her to rip his clothes off like that and but Saeki's on ! She has problems. |
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| Araby wrote: Forcibly changing someone's clothes isn't rape. I believe that you are correct. I'm sure it's something, but not rape. In some countries, it is one kind of "sexual assault". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault In other countries, I guess they would legally classify it in some other way. I don't know any details about this. Anybody who is a parent has changed somebody's clothing against their will. However, the alternative is much, much worse ! The animation seemed off this episode Yes, very much so. In any anime series, normally the first episode has much better animation quality than in the following episodes. Therefore, don't expect that the animation will get better in Episode 4. Many people were very unhappy with the animation quality in Episode 1. |
okanaganApr 20, 2013 11:23 PM
| I may be reading too much into this and am probably absolutely going nowhere with this but I thought that maybe that scene with the clothes change symbolizes Kasuga's immaturity, somewhat akin to a baby. Meanwhile, Nakamura is seeking some kind of attachment toward Kasuga. Either that or Nakamura has some kind of fetish. |
TravSavageApr 21, 2013 1:04 AM
| ^ I like this interpretation. Nakamura is nurturing, strong, competent and she understands Kasuga very well. She has great interpersonal skills. She can understand everybody well. So she would be a perfect parent in real life. She can certainly be an excellent "fill-in" parent for Kasuga. Kasuga is pretty much a total zero. I would not say "symbolize". I feel that the story is extremely straightforward, and the manga author doesn't use any symbols or metaphors or whatever. In fact, my own guess is that the whole story is a scene-for-scene record of his actual real-life experiences when he was in Grade 8. To me, the way that Nakamura interacts with Kasuga does not exhibit any "fetish" or "sadism" or other serious mental problem. Rather, this is just her way to get to know Kasuga better. So far she isn't hurting him. I also see him as gaining a huge benefit from having somebody in his life who understands him at a deep level. Probably she can see Kasuga's future potential after he "grows up". |
okanaganApr 21, 2013 12:29 AM
| That was....strange. But, I can't say I disliked it. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| You know what bothers me? The way Nakamura wears glasses over her hair. |
| Okay, the animation bugged me quite a bit in this episode... nevertheless, I loved it. The library scene. Oh my God. |
| The only thing you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything. |
| Well... that was sure interesting... It seems pretty much every MC in this show has mental issues, which is cool. I still don't get why the gym clothes thing is such a big deal. Maybe it's a culture gap as I don't come from Japan... hmm I do like how Kasuga clings to Saeki's "purity," even though he has no idea who she is or if she even is as innocent as he claims her to be. |
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| All i can think about in this episode is: rape scene this guy: |
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MelbShaw said: If Nakamura looked the generic moe then people would fap off to the rape scene eh? It'd be nice if people could stop posting such pointless spoilers in the anime discussion. I'm going to have to stop coming here. |
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| I really enjoyed this episode, the atmosphere was great, and the rotoscoping really did do its job (That Lady with a mostache and the other girlwith sideburns classroom had me laughing). That library scene was just awesome. Kasuga did ask a good question; what does nakamura actually think about!?!?!? |
| 0.o Thought she was going to rape him in the library for a moment. A bit ridiculous that even listened to her from the beginning. No one would believe a dodgy person like her even if she told someone he took the clothes. |
| It's official: Kasuga has a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome. No way any sane men would stand up for his attacker like that, let alone keep meeting up with her after she humiliated him so much. Then again, she knows he took Saeki's gym clothes, so he's probably afraid that she'll squeal if he didn't obey her. That assault scene was painful to watch. Back in elementary school, bullies would pull down my pants all the time, so I know the feeling of being humiliated the way Kasuga got exposed here. However, he's lucky no one saw it, which would probably make him not go to school at all anymore. I do wonder, though, how did he managed to get home after that scene? Nakamura tore his shirt open, so unless he managed to get it fixed without anyone noticing, I don't understand how he managed to get away. |
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| AO968 pointed out: Nakamura tore his shirt open, so unless he managed to get it fixed without anyone noticing, I don't understand how he managed to get away. Major plot hole ! We clearly saw at least two buttons bouncing away. I guess maybe he borrowed a needle and thread from the classroom where they teach Home Economics. Or else possibly Nakamura sewed those buttons back on. |
| Really good episode. Mixed in some action scenes and we got to see a little more of Nakamura, which is always good . I'm interested to see how she responds to Kasuga taking up for her. The more I watch Aku no Hana, the more I've gotten used to the art. Can't wait for next week's episode and I'm sorry for all of those who can't watch something that isn't kawaii, kawaii, moe-blob. Sucks for you. |
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| Talk about showing nothing yet everything at the same time. O_O |
ReasonDesu said: MelbShaw said: If Nakamura looked the generic moe then people would fap off to the rape scene eh? It'd be nice if people could stop posting such pointless spoilers in the anime discussion. I'm going to have to stop coming here. It's not just here, it seems like any popular anime discussion board people like to throw out spoilers just to be jerks. Shingeki no Kyojin board is the same, people talking about stuff further in the manga... "THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE." Doesn't seem to mean anything to them... |
| Spoiler trolling . . . |
Nerdy_Old_Taco said: ReasonDesu said: MelbShaw said: If Nakamura looked the generic moe then people would fap off to the rape scene eh? It'd be nice if people could stop posting such pointless spoilers in the anime discussion. I'm going to have to stop coming here. It's not just here, it seems like any popular anime discussion board people like to throw out spoilers just to be jerks. Shingeki no Kyojin board is the same, people talking about stuff further in the manga... "THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE." Doesn't seem to mean anything to them... I know it's really annoying. I would like to talk about airing episodes, but at the same time I don't want fanbois slapping their e-peen and blurting out spoilers *_* I wish they had some pro-active forum mods. |
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| Nakamura is insane! I was not waiting for it, when she tore his clothes off I was like: WTH! Maybe Kasuga will start to see that somehow they are alike and start to like her in the end...let's wait and see, it is getting better :) |
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