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Apr 12, 2013 12:45 PM

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Liked the episode pretty much, I hope we get to see more fights and action in the future though.
Apr 12, 2013 3:02 PM

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As much as I enjoy seeing the MegaTen demons in action and am looking forward to seeing Fumi next episode, it really irks me how far they dumbed down the story. Especially the whole 'I can summon a mid-tier demon from the start because I'm special' self-insert bullshit.


Apr 12, 2013 3:55 PM

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Pretty nice so far! Nitta was only sitting and crying this episode (which I didn't really mind since it's realistic), but it looks like she wants to help now as well; she even said it herself. So far everyone besides Hibiki was kinda useless and I hope this'll change next episode onwards.

They didn't really explain the whole 'cellphone going rampant' thing, so I only just learned by looking it up how that happens. Byakko is awesome as always though.

Apr 12, 2013 4:10 PM

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nitta is fucking useless
Apr 12, 2013 4:34 PM

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Didn't think I'd like this anime very much... but it's turning out to be decent at least... but I certainly want to see more developed combat rather than just the same thing over and over :|
Apr 12, 2013 4:52 PM

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Fai said:
radle said:
Too much vibe of Persona 4 from last year. Though I like the cast from that series unlike this one...
Feels like Persona 4 brat version. Maybe I'm being too thick headed, just can't get into this series.


same franchise.

God, the ignorance of mal community is so annoying

Creating anguish to yourself must be annoying..
I'd be too if I was stupid, why do it?
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Apr 12, 2013 5:02 PM
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Did anyone else notice the soundtrack at 6:46? Totally sounded like Lux Aerterna from Reqiuem for a Dream.
Apr 12, 2013 5:03 PM
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At first glance on the cover and information, I knew that this is kinda similar to Persona 4, which I don't really like at all, but don't know why I still gave it a chance. And it turned out quite well, the characters are likable, the pacing is good, really nice ending song. I love how they make this a national catastrophe, and don't mind letting tons of people die, this brings the atmosphere of destruction and therefore become really interesting to me. Even though this is still not that GOOD compare to other series this season, but still nice too watch.

I am kinda disappoint when the demons appear in this episode, it didn't feel intense at all, it was like, ah ok, so they came. The fight scene is decent, byakko is imba as fuck, and the "power" type is cool (angel-like).

All in all, still keep watching to see how it goes (even though u kinda know what they gonna do, like survivor for 6 days?, guess that is their main objective, but I hope that more will come).
Apr 12, 2013 5:16 PM

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Well... those figths were way too easy, despise they try too hard to make it look like a big deal...

Nothing really happened. Almost dropping it...
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Apr 12, 2013 7:10 PM
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Fai said:

radle said:
Too much vibe of Persona 4 from last year. Though I like the cast from that series unlike this one...
Feels like Persona 4 brat version. Maybe I'm being too thick headed, just can't get into this series.


same franchise.

God, the ignorance of mal community is so annoying

The Megaten franchise is huge and plenty of the subseries feel incredibly different from each other. You couldn't compare this to Last Bible or Shin Megami Tensei II. You could find similarities with Shin Megami Tensei I or Majin Tensei or If though.

Fai said:
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Kinda meh so far. Demons arn't particularly convincing if they remind me of pokemon so far lol.


Exactly! I thought of pokemon too XD ... but they do seem more badass imo >.<

so far, still observing but nonetheless it was an ok episode

characters and plot seem too stereotypical... I like Daichi though... he's funny at times


You DO know that this predates Pokemon by more than a fucking decade, right? Its the reason stuff like pokemon even came to fruition
There's no reason to suspect that Satoshi Tajiri got the idea of Pokemon from the MegaTen franchise. The official statements are that the idea was inspired by bug collecting.

Also the demon in this episode Itsumade had its Megaten debut in Devil Children.
There is more evidence to suggest the Devil Children subseries was inspired by Pokemon. (This isn't a knock on Devil Children BTW.)

On a different note I personally am liking the characters and their interactions.
However I have no idea how the characters who have yet to debut will be like or fit in especially because their designs and poses make them look like trendy models.
Apr 12, 2013 7:15 PM
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-_-") guys, you are "watching" or just "comparing"?

If you want it to be battle anime or more game like, ofcourse its not anime with "beat all the opponent and dirrectly get good ending". The strong point of the anime is story development, which in game is just got by information and appearance of next opponent. In anime they add the changing of emotion, reason, and situation tensing.

Also you wont get the pacing if you compare to anime you like.

back to anime discussion ... @_@)
dem, its really like continuation of previous episode. The changing was good.

for Io Nitta. Well, she did cry in game, if you fnish her arc ... :))
she cryin on MC shoulder ..
Apr 12, 2013 8:13 PM

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Looked a little repetitive from here. Of course second eps will just explain hows and whats.

3/5
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Apr 12, 2013 9:48 PM

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I'm about to beat DeSu2 (finally), and the game is fresh in my mind. So, I'm mixed on a few things and I can't help but wonder:

1) How they'll implement the demon auction. This episode mentioned it even though it's yet to be seen. I hope they do it in a way that fits an anime well as compared to a game. I think some sort of virtual dimension would suffice; showing a bidding screen with numbers would be a bit boring and tedious in an anime format.

2) I notice none of the human MC's actually fight (yet). I wonder if they did away with this, and replaced it with their ability to summon demons based on various conditions/criteria rather than just the demons they own.

Honestly I was a bit put off when they could summon based on ability, but in a way I think it may suit the medium a bit more and allowed for a faster story progression than starting with completely pitiful demons and having to auction/fuze their way past the first two episodes.

I'll wait until the series ends before I wish they decided on 26 episodes instead of 13, but overall I generally like the direction they're taking it - even if it's not a purist interpretation of the game. Haters gonna hate.
Apr 12, 2013 10:26 PM

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transcendent12 said:
Kinda meh so far. Demons aren't particularly convincing if they remind me of pokemon so far lol.


Weird, I thought the same thing when he summon Raikou with his cell phone.
Apr 12, 2013 11:20 PM

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I like the demon-kitty!<3

...this isn't bad, and I like the pacing.
Apr 13, 2013 12:58 AM

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transcendent12 said:
Kinda meh so far. Demons arn't particularly convincing if they remind me of pokemon so far lol.

I was thinking how it would've been hilarious if one of the kids said "Is that a pokemon?" when the demon broke into the building lol

So far this anime doesn't stand out but it has potential to be pretty good.
Apr 13, 2013 2:20 AM

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As already mentioned, the pacing and faithfulness to the game is pretty good. Right now there's a lack of more types of demons but seeing the preview already makes me happy, as the creation of new demons was one of the favorite part for me in the game.
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I'm about to beat DeSu2 (finally), and the game is fresh in my mind. So, I'm mixed on a few things and I can't help but wonder:

1) How they'll implement the demon auction. This episode mentioned it even though it's yet to be seen. I hope they do it in a way that fits an anime well as compared to a game. I think some sort of virtual dimension would suffice; showing a bidding screen with numbers would be a bit boring and tedious in an anime format.

2) I notice none of the human MC's actually fight (yet). I wonder if they did away with this, and replaced it with their ability to summon demons based on various conditions/criteria rather than just the demons they own.

Honestly I was a bit put off when they could summon based on ability, but in a way I think it may suit the medium a bit more and allowed for a faster story progression than starting with completely pitiful demons and having to auction/fuze their way past the first two episodes.

I'll wait until the series ends before I wish they decided on 26 episodes instead of 13, but overall I generally like the direction they're taking it - even if it's not a purist interpretation of the game. Haters gonna hate.

1. well...


2. it also happens in P4A, right? none of them actually fighting except in adachi's fight where Narukami and adachi fought although it's not considered real...
However, in previous episode, When Byakko charges electricity Hibiki's right hand also has electricity also with some kind of portal circling his right lower hand. Let's just say they're connected somehow, even though the connection doesn't also transfer pain like P4....

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Well... those figths were way too easy, despise they try too hard to make it look like a big deal...

Nothing really happened. Almost dropping it...

it IS too easy indeed.
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while byakko's given some addition (lightning attack), itsumade doesn't. Even more, his elemental weakness is lightning, giving byakko a full advantages. Let's not talk about the level here :P
Apr 13, 2013 6:19 AM

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dex_dash said:
it IS too easy indeed.
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while byakko's given some addition (lightning attack), itsumade doesn't. Even more, his elemental weakness is lightning, giving byakko a full advantages. Let's not talk about the level here :P
But the itsumade has a strong numerical advantage. My question is: In the anime it seems Itsumade keeps being summoned. Now Byakko has HP of 408; Itsumade has HP of 57. Is it possible that many many Itsumade could eventually overwhelm Byakko since there only one of it ?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Apr 13, 2013 6:59 AM

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iirc,the game let you choose some strong demons from the previous playthrough to carry over to NG+ so you can rush through all those early easy fights without much problem and now the show does exactly just that lol
Apr 13, 2013 7:14 AM

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symbv said:
dex_dash said:
it IS too easy indeed.
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while byakko's given some addition (lightning attack), itsumade doesn't. Even more, his elemental weakness is lightning, giving byakko a full advantages. Let's not talk about the level here :P
But the itsumade has a strong numerical advantage. My question is: In the anime it seems Itsumade keeps being summoned. Now Byakko has HP of 408; Itsumade has HP of 57. Is it possible that many many Itsumade could eventually overwhelm Byakko since there only one of it ?


Byakko has more than 2x agility when compared to itsunade, though - in game terms, that would mean that birdie actually HITTING byakko is...unlikely. And Byakko most likely would get an extra turn too.

Adding to that Byakko has around five times the vitality birdie does. Which would mean that any hit birdie would do with those stats would be mostly 1's...

Let's assume ridiculously that birdie gets a hit in 50% of the time(in reality it would be way lower with those stats). Each birdie does 1 damage. That would mean that Byakko would have to be attacked by 816 birdies at once(assuming half of them land the hit)

Ever tried killing mewtwo with lvl1 magikarp in pokemon games?... that would be about the same result.
Apr 13, 2013 7:26 AM

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Pretty interesting episode and we get more info about what is going on.
Seems like next episode new characters will be introduced.
Apr 13, 2013 9:09 AM

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Good episode, Hibiki looking determined to fight!!

Looking forward to the new characters.
Apr 13, 2013 12:45 PM

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I don't like how this anime is nowhere near as detailed as game. Joe is not introduced yet and he was there to fight Dubhe in the game. I don't know what evil possessed creators of this anime to fit all the game into only 13 episodes.

One of the good things about Persona 4 Animation was that it was very very close to the game. DS2A is far from that. It could be cause Persona 4 didn't have cast full of huge breasted girls and they had to put a real plot into it.

I liked how Makoto VA kept saying JP's >_< Hinako boob next episode will keep me interested. I might finally understand how her boobs aren't falling out of her coat. They seem even larger than they were in game.
Apr 13, 2013 1:14 PM

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Although this was less intense than the first ep, this was still pretty good tbh and I liked the small info dump in this episode. It was good to see these three making up their minds and joining the fight too, especially Nitta.

That ending, hmm so there's another group out there that's against JP's, interesting. And I can't wait to see the new chars as well.
Apr 13, 2013 1:18 PM

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I hope some new characters appear in next episode
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Apr 13, 2013 1:32 PM

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This start seems really slow; if next episode doesn't impress, I will drop.
Apr 13, 2013 8:49 PM

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I love seeing Byakko in action again :)
Hibiki and his righteousness....
The story of the demons and the other species are very interesting, looking forward to more
Apr 14, 2013 1:44 PM

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decent ep, id like to see kuze summon more than byakko. the plot could deepen too
Apr 14, 2013 4:55 PM
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Good episode.
Nothing much had happen.
I thought that white hair guy is a villain.
Next episode may be interesting because of that white hair guy at the end.
Stupid pokemon wannabe. -_-
Don't like the orange hair boy. Shiki seems to be uselees now because of her mother died. I hope she stop crying and fight now. Execpt the white hair man. He seems to be ok.
4/5
Apr 14, 2013 7:50 PM

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That was a better episode, the fight scenes were animated pretty well... Haven't played the game but I will probably consider it now. Always has to be the people with white hair that are villans eh XD
Apr 14, 2013 8:14 PM

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Why just 41.71% of 5's?!?!?! I have never played the game, but seriously, I'm in love with this anime !! I can't wait seven days for the next one :'(
Apr 14, 2013 11:13 PM

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Nikolaevich said:
Why just 41.71% of 5's?!?!?! I have never played the game, but seriously, I'm in love with this anime !! I can't wait seven days for the next one :'(


2/3 of this episode was talking talking and talking.
The action was at the end of the episode and was kinda short.
Basically a boring episode.
Apr 15, 2013 2:06 AM

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Mmmmh...
I really don't like the whiny weak best friend and the helpless big-breasted girl/probable love interest types...
As far as secondary characters go, they couldn't be less creative. I hope this isn't going to ruin the series for me...
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Apr 15, 2013 5:43 AM

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For me, nothing special in this episode.. I am not impress, yet..
Apr 15, 2013 6:46 AM

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Nikolaevich said:
Why just 41.71% of 5's?!?!?! I have never played the game, but seriously, I'm in love with this anime !! I can't wait seven days for the next one :'(

Because it's a horrible adaption.


Apr 15, 2013 6:51 AM

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Nickienator said:
Nikolaevich said:
Why just 41.71% of 5's?!?!?! I have never played the game, but seriously, I'm in love with this anime !! I can't wait seven days for the next one :'(

Because it's a horrible adaption.

I've never seen a good adaptation from any game in general, except for Tales of the Abyss.
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Nickienator said:
Nikolaevich said:
Why just 41.71% of 5's?!?!?! I have never played the game, but seriously, I'm in love with this anime !! I can't wait seven days for the next one :'(

Because it's a horrible adaption.


Its impossible to make a faithful adaptation out of something that is BASED on player's choices. There are at least ~10 different personality archetypes the mc could belong to depending on your dialogue choices and dozens of storylines depending on what you choose to do.

is it condensed? SURE.
But So far there's nothing game-breaking(har har) in it though
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Fai said:
Nickienator said:
Nikolaevich said:
Why just 41.71% of 5's?!?!?! I have never played the game, but seriously, I'm in love with this anime !! I can't wait seven days for the next one :'(

Because it's a horrible adaption.


Its impossible to make a faithful adaptation out of something that is BASED on player's choices. There are at least ~10 different personality archetypes the mc could belong to depending on your dialogue choices and dozens of storylines depending on what you choose to do.

is it condensed? SURE.
But So far there's nothing game-breaking(har har) in it though

I know, I called this a horrible adaption before it even started airing because it's impossible to adapt. And that's why I've said and will say again: it's retarded to watch it without at least having played the game, it's robbing yourself of an experience even if it's not a very strong entry in the franchise, it's watching someone play the game for you and make the choices.

And I'd say making the MC overpowered from the very start to appeal to as much simple minds as possible is pretty game breaking.

To be honest, as a fan of the franchise I'm torn between hating it for being a bad adaption and loving it for being able to see some of my favorite demons in action (even if it's not very good action). When the time comes for me to rate this, I have no idea how to.


Apr 16, 2013 9:59 PM

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dex_dash said:

1. well...


2. it also happens in P4A, right? none of them actually fighting except in adachi's fight where Narukami and adachi fought although it's not considered real...
However, in previous episode, When Byakko charges electricity Hibiki's right hand also has electricity also with some kind of portal circling his right lower hand. Let's just say they're connected somehow, even though the connection doesn't also transfer pain like P4....

Interesting.

So the auction will probably be an off-screen affair? I didn't even realize there was a manga adaptation for this. I might have to check that out if this anime is drawing from that.

And I understand your point in #2 even though I haven't seen (or played) P4. I'm still young in the MegaTen universe.
Apr 18, 2013 4:47 AM
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This anime isn't bad but it really feels as if it's missing a few things. REALISM to be exact. And no, before any of you say 'You expect realism from THIS anime?', I don't mean that kind of realism I mean that things are going too fast that the viewer is just understanding one thing and all of a sudden something new comes up. And I don't get how Hibiki suddenly changed. I can't put my finger on it but he definitely changed.
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Apr 18, 2013 4:51 AM

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Nickienator said:
And that's why I've said and will say again: it's retarded to watch it without at least having played the game, it's robbing yourself of an experience even if it's not a very strong entry in the franchise, it's watching someone play the game for you and make the choices.
Since one big reason why this anime is made is to promote the game, it would be really sad for those who watch the anime and enjoy it enough to try the game later to be told that they are retarded.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Apr 23, 2013 12:56 PM

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So far I'm liking P4 way, way, way better. The MC is bland, the girl is bland and the other guy feels like generic idiot X. Hopefully we'll get to see some actual interesting characters soon.
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Apr 24, 2013 2:37 AM

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There's something seriously wrong with writing when show makes you feel like you missed an episode. Another series that needs to redeem itself in the next episode.
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May 26, 2013 9:38 PM

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Nitta - this kind of female character is what I really like :) than those characters like tsundere :P
May 26, 2013 9:40 PM

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Okay. How about we get real for a second?

Hibiki's friends are supposed to be generic. They're 18 year old high school kids. Real people aren't quirky or special. Yeah, Nitta is useless. Most 18 year old girls would be crying in a corner over their mother. She just fucking watched dozens of people be killed by a strange alien creature.

What Devil Survivor 2 does, and does extremely well, is try to simulate a realistic world destruction in a fantasy setting. Since the game's 'factions' revolve around ideologies very similar to real life. If the characters didn't like like actual people, we wouldn't be able to relate our values to theirs.

This is why the tension level does not explode. You don't watch this if you want a wam bam typical anime plot about SAVING DAH WORLD and shit. Calling it bad because the best friend does have some quirky trait like HE'S A COMPUTER WHIZZ is partly the reason why we don't get more thoughtful stories from all forms of media, not just Anime.

Definitely. On Io being useless, keep in mind that she was able to summon up the resolve to join Daichi in the fight, and even realize that she wasn't helping earlier and that she has to change. That says something, for sure.


THIS.
May 31, 2013 3:44 PM

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Brilliant episode!!!

It was a good follow up from last time and Byakko was so epic in that battle scene and I can see how it outmatches other demons quite easily. We learn more about the secret organization JP's. A mysterious characters is still yet to be fully revealed and the commander looks like a caring person. The world is in a tight situation with many lives at risk but this makes Hibiki think that he should make use of the power he has gained and use to do something along with Daichi and Nitta.

Looking forward to next episode!!

5/5



Jun 5, 2013 8:29 PM

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damn this episode is cool too.. I like when byakko fight with lighting :D so cool :D
Jun 22, 2013 8:02 PM

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This is me reading the first few pages of this discussion: "Who the hell are they talking about?"
I guess I'll find out in the next episode.

Two new characters introduced: Makoto Sako, a commander who can summon Power.
Yamato Hotsuin, a white-haired chief who talks to the other mysterious white-haired dude.

Exploding Giant Ice Cream Cone aka Dubhe is a Septentrion. At least one Septentrion attacks each day.

I like the Byakko and Power vs Skull-Bird scene. With the OST before and during that.

Fumi Kanno and another mysterious guy might appear in the next episode. A lot actually will appear.
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Jun 23, 2013 6:22 AM

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Good episode. Like the action in this one.
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