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Feb 4, 2013 8:39 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Good, we will have the past of Laoi and Whang Yi in the next episode.. I'm a little dissapointing with the animation. The duel is so more Badass in the manga. We're supposed to hear the cry of anger of Whang Yi after the flashback.

Liao was the strongest women in Kingdom.

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KiraYoshikage said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Good, we will have the past of Laoi and Whang Yi in the next episode.. I'm a little dissapointing with the animation. The duel is so more Badass in the manga. We're supposed to hear the cry of anger of Whang Yi after the flashback.

Liao was the strongest women in Kingdom.



I liked the episode, and although i haven't read the manga, i did think the fight was missing something.

So i gotta ask, i bet the manga is better so in order to read it i need to know if it has more content, or is the anime close to the manga?
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Feb 4, 2013 11:40 AM
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A arc was cut in the anime and somes character are not in the anime, but the anime is almost like as in the manga. THhs is just the animation,It's just the animation is lacking and not fluid as in the manga.

Exemple with the fight of Wang Yi in the manga:

Feb 4, 2013 12:31 PM
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Great episode. It was tense, thrilling and well-written.

Finally Wang Yi came to the front line. He is a good example of a leader, who dares to challenge if necessary.

It's a pity this anime doesn't draw attention so much. (just around 10 comments per episode so far)
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I seriously thought Wang Yi is a gay all this time...with all that "ku ku ku"... that Liao was his boyfriend(NOT girlfriend) xD

My golly! =_=
Feb 4, 2013 9:26 PM
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kageyoshitensei said:
I seriously thought Wang Yi is a gay all this time...with all that "ku ku ku"... that Liao was his boyfriend(NOT girlfriend) xD

My golly! =_=


You never know.
Feb 5, 2013 12:19 AM
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Well I think we all saw this coming. Now the question is do they survive...
Feb 5, 2013 2:12 AM
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KiraYoshikage said:
A arc was cut in the anime and somes character are not in the anime, but the anime is almost like as in the manga. THhs is just the animation,It's just the animation is lacking and not fluid as in the manga.

Exemple with the fight of Wang Yi in the manga:



Thanks for your answer, but my question wasn't much about how much did the anime cut from the manga. What i wanted to know is how far the story goes after what's happening on the anime, so i checked the manga and i think it is over 300 chapters now and thought it would be my next read, I mean if i love the anime despite the animation the manga has to be EPIC! but man, do I have bad luck, 16 chapters translated out of 300+ only thing i found are comments saying that we are missing some great manga and the only thing I can do is suffer in silence hoping and begging for some group to take on this manga or wait til i learn enough japanese to read the raws.

Anyway, it took me like an hour to write this comment since I did my research about the Kingdom manga while writing this post LOL, so I guess you know japanese or chinese right? Damn, am i envious right now XD, i'm so far from being able to read this, i'm only on my 3rd week of japanese lessons LOL.
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Feb 5, 2013 4:04 AM
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I am just a guy that has a great knowledge in history of Japan and China. I follows only 2 or 3 raw manga. No, I do not know Chinese. This is too hard to learn.
Feb 5, 2013 5:13 PM
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Hard to imagine someone like Wang Yi having a girlfriend much less a fiance.
Feb 6, 2013 3:03 AM

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Awesome duel finally. And also it was so unexpected that Wang Yi had a fiance.

Feb 6, 2013 3:27 AM
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it was so unexpected that Wang Yi had a fiance.


Yes, I was very surprised. haha
Feb 6, 2013 12:13 PM

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manuxel said:
KiraYoshikage said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Good, we will have the past of Laoi and Whang Yi in the next episode.. I'm a little dissapointing with the animation. The duel is so more Badass in the manga. We're supposed to hear the cry of anger of Whang Yi after the flashback.

Liao was the strongest women in Kingdom.



I liked the episode, and although i haven't read the manga, i did think the fight was missing something.

So i gotta ask, i bet the manga is better so in order to read it i need to know if it has more content, or is the anime close to the manga?


I would tell you to read the manga but nobody translates it. The translations so far are still in like the 1st arc.
Feb 7, 2013 4:34 AM

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Somehow I knew that Liao is a woman and love was involved
It's gonna be interesting how it will develop in the last three episodes
Feb 7, 2013 7:01 AM

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Well it was expected that Liao was a women from the scenes we saw before.
I'm glad they are gonna show their past because after hearing she was his woman to her i was curious of seeing their relationship.

So if Whang Yi is weaker then how is he gonna win? Is Xin and the others gonna intervene? Has Lei underestimated the abilities of Whang Yi? Or are we gonna get an explanation of the type of Whang Yi pulling more power than he really has because of his feelings of revenge for the loss of Liao?

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I am just a guy that has a great knowledge in history of Japan and China. I follows only 2 or 3 raw manga. No, I do not know Chinese. This is too hard to learn.


WtF? So you don't read it. You just watch the images? And lol, the animation in the manga was better? Manga don't have animation.

Btw you should really stop mentioning the manga all the time and telling us spoilers like that no stronger woman will appear than Liao. I think you showed around your "i follow manga" e-penis long enough.
Feb 7, 2013 2:17 PM

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Well it was expected that Liao was a women from the scenes we saw before.
I'm glad they are gonna show their past because after hearing she was his woman to her i was curious of seeing their relationship.

So if Whang Yi is weaker then how is he gonna win? Is Xin and the others gonna intervene? Has Lei underestimated the abilities of Whang Yi? Or are we gonna get an explanation of the type of Whang Yi pulling more power than he really has because of his feelings of revenge for the loss of Liao?.


He is not so weak.Wang Yi has a lot of experience and the power does not do everything in a fight. For now, you can very well know for yourself which way the battle will turn out. Pang Nuan says in the episode, Wang Yi is not yet fully. Lei often have justs one way of observation.

'' Or are we gonna get an explanation of the type of Whang Yi pulling more power than he really has because of his feelings of revenge for the loss of Liao?''

I will avoid to answer with the manga. Before the start of the battle, it is clearly seen that Wang Yi turns state of rage in the flashback, So Yes and you can presume than Wang Yi is more stronger.



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I am just a guy that has a great knowledge in history of Japan and China. I follows only 2 or 3 raw manga. No, I do not know Chinese. This is too hard to learn

WtF? So you don't read it. You just watch the images? And lol, the animation in the manga was better? Manga don't have animation.

Btw you should really stop mentioning the manga all the time and telling us spoilers like that no stronger woman will appear than Liao. I think you showed around your "i follow manga" e-penis long enough.


I spoilling nothing. I nevers said that, I sais: She was the strongest. Pang Nuan is just interest in strong people. You can very well deduced that was the strongest women. First, the manga is in Japanese and not Chinese and I follow lesson in Japanese.

I like to compare because the animation of the anime is awful and I do not hide that if I had not read and seen the manga, I would have dropped the anime. That is why there are a lot of people who dropped out and did not even dare watched an episode. A very bad publicity


You know, I can do the unpleasant guy and say how the duel ends. lol I wil never do thatl
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Feb 7, 2013 6:25 PM

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Li Mu did an amazing job with keeping such information from his allies first. And Wang Yi was even more impressive being able to deduct so much. Looking forward to learning about his past.
Feb 8, 2013 1:03 AM

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As expected puag nuan is not the commander general and im just as shocked about wang qis fiance, cause no matter how you look at it, i cant visualize call him the romantic type.

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Feb 9, 2013 6:16 AM
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This manga/anime doesn't follow history that well, I thought Wang Qi was Wang Jian, lol!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Jian_(Qin)

Li Mu is very famous though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Mu
Feb 9, 2013 2:51 PM

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bonifide said:

I would tell you to read the manga but nobody translates it. The translations so far are still in like the 1st arc.


Yeah I know, it's a real shame.

Monad said:
KiraYoshikage said:
I am just a guy that has a great knowledge in history of Japan and China. I follows only 2 or 3 raw manga. No, I do not know Chinese. This is too hard to learn.
WtF? So you don't read it. You just watch the images? And lol, the animation in the manga was better? Manga don't have animation.

Btw you should really stop mentioning the manga all the time and telling us spoilers like that no stronger woman will appear than Liao. I think you showed around your "i follow manga" e-penis long enough.
Well KiraYoshikage said "I do not know Chinese" but didn't mention not knowing Japanese.

KiraYoshikage said:
First, the manga is in Japanese and not Chinese and I follow lesson in Japanese.
So is the language complex in this manga? I ask because I just started Japanese lessons 3 weeks ago and I really hope I can start reading some mangas without translations in a year or two, and I was hoping this manga would be one ot those.

Note: I hope you don't find my question confusing, I just wanna know if this manga can be read by, for example, kids, 'cause i'm guessing (hoping) that's the level of japanese I'll have in one to two years. I know this question might be hard to answer, so yo do not have to. Cheers.
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Feb 10, 2013 10:51 AM

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manuxel said:


KiraYoshikage said:
First, the manga is in Japanese and not Chinese and I follow lesson in Japanese.


So is the language complex in this manga? I ask because I just started Japanese lessons 3 weeks ago and I really hope I can start reading some mangas without translations in a year or two, and I was hoping this manga would be one ot those.

Note: I hope you don't find my question confusing, I just wanna know if this manga can be read by, for example, kids, 'cause i'm guessing (hoping) that's the level of japanese I'll have in one to two years. I know this question might be hard to answer, so yo do not have to. Cheers.


To say true, the mangaka still has simplified the language and does not use too many words of this period. As I said I do not know Chinese, but if it was in Chinese, there is a lot chance that the language would be uncommon with milatary term and ancient term. Yes, we may be lucky. It is unfortunate because there are plenty of historical manga untranslated for these reasons. Because of the difficulty of the language. I also asked for help from time to time to understand. There's more action and the characters do not talk much.
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KiraYoshikage said:
manuxel said:


KiraYoshikage said:
First, the manga is in Japanese and not Chinese and I follow lesson in Japanese.


So is the language complex in this manga? I ask because I just started Japanese lessons 3 weeks ago and I really hope I can start reading some mangas without translations in a year or two, and I was hoping this manga would be one ot those.

Note: I hope you don't find my question confusing, I just wanna know if this manga can be read by, for example, kids, 'cause i'm guessing (hoping) that's the level of japanese I'll have in one to two years. I know this question might be hard to answer, so yo do not have to. Cheers.


To say true, the mangaka still has simplified the language and does not use too many words of this period. As I said I do not know Chinese, but if it was in Chinese, there is a lot chance that the language would be uncommon with milatary term and ancient term. Yes, we may be lucky. It is unfortunate because there are plenty of historical manga untranslated for these reasons. Because of the difficulty of the language. I also asked for help from time to time to understand. There's more action and the characters do not talk much.

Thank you for your answer, I'll study japanese with all my might and hopefuly I'll be able to read this manga some time between 2014 and 2015 LOL.

And I hope by that time I'll find someone to ask what i don't understand like you do right now :)

Cheers.
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Feb 12, 2013 10:48 PM

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I liked this episode very much and it was very thrilling.
can't wait for the next episode.
too bad the manga is not being translated though, i'd buy every volume if it was to be adapted in america.
wow this is cool
Oct 8, 2013 8:08 PM

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The twist was kinda obvious since the person we saw dead in the flashback looked like a woman.
Dec 7, 2013 3:21 PM

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That was exactly what I predicted. No twist. :(

I knew Liao was a woman, it was so obvious the first time I saw her in the flashback!

Ah well, I'll just watch and see how this turns out. Was nice that the mangaka included that though, or otherwise everyone would keep thinking Wang Yi is gay. >> (Ignore this part if you will.)

Now for the backstory plz~
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Pretty much knew Wang yi and liao had something between them. Good episode!
Apr 15, 2014 8:47 PM

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Ahhh sooo goood!!! So happy there is a second season!
Apr 23, 2014 3:32 AM

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The two generals' strength was impressive but I'm even more impressed with their horses. Modern horses can't powerslide anymore. Tis a lost art.
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May 22, 2014 10:50 AM

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oh~ and here i thought that Wang Qi was into men....
Jun 14, 2014 9:28 AM

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I feel like Wang Yi wants to die in a great battle.. and this is the one.

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Apr 19, 2015 11:52 PM

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Shit. I don't even know if Wang Qi will be able to defeat Pang Nuan. Though that one slash by Wang Qi was fucking beast.

It was obvious that Liao was a woman though I'd never expect Wang Qi to have a wife with that face.

Intense episode. Finally Kingdom has reached its climax!

9/10 I'm wondering what's going to happen if Wang Qi dies. If he does die, will the secret army sent by Li Mu reach the Qing Army in time? Who knows? I'm excited to find out!

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Liao was a woman and Wang Qi's fiance. I think these were predictable. On the other hand, I expected to see that Pang Nuan took a bit of damage from his fight against Shin and his men, so that would help Wang Qi win... It can't be helped
Jun 17, 2015 3:16 AM

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Plot twist - everyone is a woman in this series.
Oct 11, 2015 12:46 AM

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I thought it was pretty obvious Liao was a woman and Wang Qi and Liao were lovers.
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Plot twist - everyone is a woman in this series.


Bwahahahahaha, so true. This is the fourth women in disguise!
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I don't know why they try to make these "oh but he was actually a woman!" into some big reveals when it's so obvious by looking at their faces and behavior. The mountain king was probably the only surprising one due to the magical voice changing mask but it was hinted by the way her feminine eyes. Granted it's also easier to tell in the anime than the manga because of the voice actresses but still, the amount of "reveals" is just crazy. They should just throw a curve ball and reveal that Zheng was a girl all along lol. No one would expect that shit xD
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That can't be more obvious for me xD
I mean most of women dressed as men in this anime is just.. bad at doing disguise xD

I'm looking forward for Zhao's fall
I don't like Zhao :(
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This was obvious but still sad.
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When you thought Wang Qi was gay but he turned out to be hetero, I guess never judge a book by its cover.

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I seriously thought Wang Yi is a gay all this time...with all that "ku ku ku"... that Liao was his boyfriend(NOT girlfriend) xD


THAT! I was hoping for such a scenario. Wouldn't it have been better with Liao as a pretty boy and some shared past with Wang Ji that could've warmed up all those fujoshi hearts?! I'm sad now.. T__T
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to be honest, before this episode i knew already liao was women, two things led me this: 1. when liao was showed first time they showed lips like women 2. pan nuan went into the qin's army in search for lei, which was women, which led me to believe that liao was women. if it would be true than that'll explain the whole background of wang qi and liao. i'm glad my deduction was right.
my only problem though is - "this is probably not your entire power" too dragonballish lol,. second, women in this series have to be in disguise. not so surprising though considering the anime theme.
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This show and its women pretending to be men in order to be a soldier in a war trope. Seriously, how can someone rise into becoming a general without this giant of a secret even slipping out?
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One of the cons of this series, surprise twists and plot points that have not much to do with general warfare are pretty predictable (incredible how long it takes people to recognize a "women in disguise". Doesn't make it any less cool or interesting, but there isn't too much "holy shit" shock factor in these reveals.
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Wang Yi vs Pang Nuan, they finally fight each other again after the first time they fought when Pang rushed into Qin formation.

General Liao is a woman and Wang Yi's spouse?? What a surprise, I thought Wang Yi swung the other way around this whole time
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Kyou was fine as hell Ou Ki has to GO GET BACK !! and avenge her death

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