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| Well, it seems apparent that Vash and Knives aren't human (seeing as they grew from babies to the size they were in a year) so that might explain the long lifespan. I'm guessing the technology was from the ships, but as time has gone by, people just forgot how to use and maintain it. |
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| so after 16 episode they finally told us the story |
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| Vash and Knives were found in space or some shit. They're, like, aliens. I'm guessing the technology was from the ships, but as time has gone by, people just forgot how to use and maintain it. It's not that they forgot. Chances are they never knew in the first place. All of the people who made it onto the planet alive were frozen while on the ship. If they were taught beforehand, that wouldn't make any sense, because the plants for example have always been mysterious to the people on the planet. |
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Cero said: Like how is Vash alive after 107+ years? And why has his body been frozen in time? Like in the July place he looked the same as he did 21 years later. Yeah I don't understand this part at all. At first he matures insanely fast in just one year, next he doesn't change at all in 21 years? Ontario said: I would've liked to find that out myself.. |
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| Very good backstory, although it did feel a little rushed. Could have worked better over 2 eps. |
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| That was so heartbreaking, seeing Vash cry when rem died. :< I thought knives was cool after awhile but then what he did was just completely messed up.. But watching this story of what happened before was really cool. 5/5. |
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| Wow, this episode brings alot to perspective, I LOVE Trigun. |
| Huh. I think I liked it better when I thought Vash was human. I really enjoyed the first 15 episodes & now I'm not sure I'm going to like where it's going. |
| Such junk... |
| They could have done better with telling the Trigun story because it is such a deceptive little bugger, but I love it! mind was blown. |
| After seeing this episode came to my mind the history of Cain and Abel (Christian story about two brothers, the bad and the good one), adding the events from the episode before when they say that Vash is some kind of God's Intervention... |
| That was incredible, this episode really answered A LOT of questions. |
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| I thought it was boring at first, but turned out quite decent. |
| Filler episode, but it is very important, because it explains lots of things. LOL, little Vash with long hair looked like a little girl xD So was Knives xD |
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| Okay. Now I understand a bit. Well, a lot actually. Fucking Knives. Yes, Vash looked like a girl xD; So Knives made them do it. Although it explains a lot, some new questions are raised. What's Legato's relation to Knives? He (or one of his minions) mentioned someone, a father figure... Maybe Knives? Also, Vash's thinking was actually contradictory. Knives was right at that time. You can't save both the butterfly and the spider. If you somehow manage to change spider's ways, it's diet, then it's not a "spider" really. It's not physical form alone that makes an organism. "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me" ... as an eminent philosopher once said xD; Besides, to process different foods, the spider will eventually have to evolve some other mechanism, which would definitely mean it's won't stay a spider. I felt sad for Rem though. Something makes me wonder if she realized that Knives was behind what happened but decided to stay behind anyway. Another thing, why doesn't Vash remember anything from that time. One thing is for sure, this is one of the most meaningful filler episodes ever done in an anime series, imho. It adds something to the story - a background and a base - if you will. It has increased my interest in this series and so I give it a 4/5. -1 because some of the philosophical dialog between the crew members of the ship missed it's mark. Probably lost in translation. *EDIT: zOMG! I suddenly have this insane craving for roasted chicken O_O; |
honey88foruAug 31, 2010 1:47 PM
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| Wow so...what exactly is Vash? A genetically engineered human? Or a alien or something? ;o IMO this should have been spread out more, everything happened way too quickly, should have developed Rem's character more. 5/5 |
| Great episode. I would never have guessed that Vash wasn't human. They should of told the backstory a lot earlier in the series. I wonder how they are going to end it in the next 9 episodes. |
| Shit just got real... xD Pretty sick episode. |
| A filler episode? Bull crap. We needed all of that information. Knives is going to come into the story again I'm sure. We needed to know who Rem was, why Vash is the way he is, why they're on a strange planet. |
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| Awww. :( Rem seemed like an awesome person. D: |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| What a serious episode. 'm glad to learn who is(was) Rem finally |
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OranSolus said: Well, it seems apparent that Vash and Knives aren't human (seeing as they grew from babies to the size they were in a year) so that might explain the long lifespan. I'm guessing the technology was from the ships, but as time has gone by, people just forgot how to use and maintain it. Yeah they were hibernated and they were probably ordinary ppl, so they probably never understood the technology in first place, just as you or me don't know how to create or fix smart phone or any other complex device without support of specialized factories and proper equipment. |
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| Absolutely masterful. I don't think there was a single thing I disliked about this episode. When the ship blew up at the end, I actually felt an emotional punch in the gut, even though I knew deep inside what was probably gonna happen. Sniff...Now excuse me, I have some sand in my eye. ;_; |
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| GREAT episode. I never was interested in watching this series so far in the past, and I am soooo glad I did. I see why this was a groundbreaking show in the 90s and how it has a such a large following. Vash is awesome indeed. |
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| Wow. Amazing backstory. How is Legato linked to Knives though? |
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rlayer said: I liked this better as a comical western. Still, how could they name a kid "Knives" and not expect him to turn out bad? Haha, come on now. Yeah I enjoyed the earlier episodes more so far. I like Vash we he's not serious. The show is still pretty good. |
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| A really good episode. One of those rare flashbacks that are justified and interesting. A lot of questions were answered and some more were revealed. +1 on my rating. |
Cero said: After that episode I finally understand this series. Who Rem is, who the person Vash must see, why the planet looks like that, etc etc. This. Now it all makes sense, the anime now has a logic(one of its own), so I can finally acknowledge it. I'm looking forward to the next episodes from now on. |
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| Better late than never I guess. Finally we got to know Vash's past. Looking forward to next episode. |
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| Rem's Death broke my heart. She practically saved mankind at the cost of her own. It explains Vash's motivations just to carry on as her legacy. |
honey88foru said: Fucking Knives. This. Thousand times this. |
| Well, now we understand why Vash is literally overpowerful. I think that there is a high possibily that Legato is the other boy (don't know how to spell is name), they have the same objective, eradication of human. And Legato seem to know how to activate Vash weird beam. Is blue hair could just be tainted. Next episode will surely be about what happened at July. Also, Vash seem to have killed people in the past. |
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| I did not asked for these feels! But damn this back story episode was so impressive, really things make so much more sense now and man does it make the story even more epic! Really things sure are getting damn epic! So let's see what's next! |
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| That episode was insanely good. Anybody know of any similar sci-fi anime like this episode? I'm craving more ... |
IchiroEX said: Rem's Death broke my heart. She practically saved mankind at the cost of her own. It explains Vash's motivations just to carry on as her legacy. That was an intense back story :O |
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| The backstory is nice like I remembered. |
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| Poor Rem :( So Vash and Knives (or Millions Knives as it says on the end credits - lol, it should be Millions A. Knives xD) are like aliens or something and they're like 108 now! Woah ... that's weird and all the space ship stuff, I did not expect all that. |
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| It was interesting to find out that Vash had only knew Rem for a single year, and that was during his early childhood. Nevertheless, she of course had a huge impact on how he dealt with violence as well as his philosophy for life. What surprised me about the whole ordeal was that she had actually been a mother figure to him instead of a former lover that I previously thought. The bionic arms and the mystery of those large hourglass-like machines with the exact purpose of maintaining the existence of human settlements within a desert have still yet been explained though, so hopefully the rest of the episodes won’t leave anything hanging by the end. |
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