Maison Ikkoku Episode 19 Discussion

xLegionx said:
I don't understand wtf Godai was trying to do I mean why was he trying to throw her down??? No girl is gonna like that, to me he is kinda to forceful always trying to grab her and shit its a little weird.

merle_noir said:

Have to agree. He seriously seems to be lacking in the common sense department... He seems no better than a molester sometimes. @_@;;

MyLonesomeCowboy said:
This episode was incredible.

The way they juxtaposed the two scenes after he leaves the room was really cinematic. And, that heartrending "Godai's a real gentleman. I'm a coward." line made for a very emotional moment.

You could tell they spent a lot of time on this one. There was even a little "camera" movement style animation when he went for the grab under the kotatsu.

This is the kind of stuff 10s are made of.

Seiya said:
I'm loling at some of the left-wing comments in this thread.

Godai, a rapist? Please, that was called "Makin' the moves" back in the day. Women would never initiate anything, especially not in those days.

Although, It's probably best that he didn't do anything, as she's still a bit attached to her dead husband.

tr25a3 said:
I wish Godai wasn't so perverted. He tries to "touch" Kyoko whenever he is near her.
"She could cry or ream, and no one would interrupt us!"
"I'll take her for my own!" Urgh. I agree with FrozenRaider, rapist alert.

That's the one character trait I hate the most about Godai. Is he really so megahorny?

Would be funny if Kyoko would start taking Karate lessons to beat Goudai whenever he comes too close.

I guess their relationship would develop way faster aswell if he wouldn't ruin every single romantic moment with her by forcing himself upon her.

Raitei said:
This is one of the things I don't like about how Godai behaves.. he seriously looked like a rapist when he was trying to grab her.. I mean, what else does he want to do after taking hold of her?!

Another thing I don't like about him is how he keeps saying that she should forget Soichiro and keeps saying that "he's dead" so insensitively..

Two minor things, but they both annoy me.. its pretty much the only thing about the whole show that annoys me though..

shiroi-ookami said:




I was waiting for someone to point these things out. I've heard lots of praises for this anime. It is entertaining alright, but Godai creeps me out at times and this episode especially was uncomfortable to watch even though it was probably meant to be funny.I hope this changes soon. Also, I feel like Godai doesn't truly care about Kyoko, he only loves her pretty face and thinks about laying her all the time. Even though they are living together for over a year he still seems to be in love with an image of her.

Open-Dice said:


How much have you actually watched? Putting the moves on someone forcefully is not rape. These days putting the moves on someone is frowned upon but back in the day it wasn't exactly socially unacceptable. It was definitely not seen as rape.

Godai's early attempts to win Kyoko over are immature yes, because he is a stupid kid and doesn't know any better way to go about it - and he is obviously unsuccessful with it. This is less than 20 episodes in. He doesn't ultimately win her over by immaturely putting the moves on her, it's part of his character development.

EmperorKaido said:
I'm annoyed by how many people think Godai is trying to rape Kyoko. Seriously all he's trying to do is initiate contact with her. If she rejects I'm sure he won't rape her.

alexrawk said:
Adding myself to the list of people over the years who are watching this series for their first time and found Godai's behavior extremely offputting but are keeping fingers crossed that he matures significantly since there are so many praises for this anime

Seriously, as someone else said, knowing Kyoko was panicking inside while Godai was just thinking "She could cry and ream and no one would hear!" was extremely uncomfortable. I find that currently, I hate Godai. I can only hope he truly does mature and become respectable, because I don't WANT to hate him, but right now I do

Playcool said:
Kinda wanted to reply on previous episode too, but will use this for both.

Ep18
This MC sucks, what a spineless bastard, this would be much easier if he could just be direct and tell that ex-glasses girl (Kozue) that he already loves another, so STOP bothering him, but he is such a pussy that is affraid to end alone and likes to have someone that loves him back, even if he cant reciprocate the feelings.
I cant feel any respect for this dude, like he says, he is wishy-washy, and feels an idiot, so STOP behaving like this.

Rest of the episode was fine, but this MC seriously needs to get real about his feels and what he wants, he already confessed to her, good, I feel he should do that again, at a proper time, so that Kyouko can finally take him serious, since the writting for her is really not the best sometimes.

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Now ep19.

This episode is a great example why I cant enjoy this MC, this is NOT how you approach a girl, seeing all his attempts to sneak on her, it was just creepy and hard to watch, he is being too forceful about it, rather than trying to create a good atmosphere, and put Kyouko in the mood to be more honest with her feelings and show signals that he could make a more physical advance on her.

I guess this was the stereotypical way of males to approach females back in the day, but at least it is a good thing we dont see this now on most anime at least.


It is not that I feel he will rape her, but his delusions about how this shit works, and his lack of common sense to believe these attempts would get him positive reactions from Kyouko, it is just RETARDED.


This, agree 100%, I m expecting MC to get better, and he is not always this retarded either, so hopefully this will be one of the worst episodes in that sense.

I actually have some faith in the world now reading what people where saying for this episode, and rightfully complaining.