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Feb 18, 6:09 AM
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Yeah, bro. I was trying to tell people Luffy is still not quite there yet. He's OP in Gear 5th, but that comes with massive drawbacks. Ain't no way he beats a fresh Kaido in a 1vs1 without interference.

To be fair, tho, this was the obligatory Gaban fex. It's still silly how Oda always nerfs Luffy. Instead of trying to attack him calmly using Future Sight he's rushing him like a fool.
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Feb 18, 6:45 AM
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where do you'll read so fast (question mark)
Feb 18, 7:43 AM
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Altieee said:
where do you'll read so fast (question mark)

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Feb 18, 7:43 AM
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Altieee said:
where do you'll read so fast (question mark)

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Feb 18, 10:24 AM
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Altieee said:
where do you'll read so fast (question mark)

He hasn't read it, every tuesday, pew Piece(x) releases spoilers in about 6 points. The guy who has started the discussion just is too eager for discussion and starts it without reading the chapter.
Feb 18, 3:19 PM
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Altieee said:
where do you'll read so fast (question mark)

They only read spoilers so early on.

Fan translations only come out on Thursday/Friday.

And the official chapter on Sunday.
Feb 20, 12:41 AM
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He hasn't read it, every tuesday, pew Piece(x) releases spoilers in about 6 points. The guy who has started the discussion just is too eager for discussion and starts it without reading the chapter.

Loaf_dontcare said:
They only read spoilers so early on.

Fan translations only come out on Thursday/Friday.

And the official chapter on Sunday.

Fan translation is out already.


This was a damn good chapter.
I wonder if Harald really was in league with the WG. Why would they be coming here to visit Harald's grave if they were not on some kind of good terms with him? This is a very intriguing line of text we got this chapter.
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Feb 20, 2:12 AM
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logic340 said:
Ruthless_Lord said:
He hasn't read it, every tuesday, pew Piece(x) releases spoilers in about 6 points. The guy who has started the discussion just is too eager for discussion and starts it without reading the chapter.

Loaf_dontcare said:
They only read spoilers so early on.

Fan translations only come out on Thursday/Friday.

And the official chapter on Sunday.

Fan translation is out already.


This was a damn good chapter.
I wonder if Harald really was in league with the WG. Why would they be coming here to visit Harald's grave if they were not on some kind of good terms with him? This is a very intriguing line of text we got this chapter.

My theory: Harold was a villain who was colluding with WG

And loki is a good guy(tsundere type) which has already been hinted.
Feb 20, 3:36 AM
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Oda is such a tease man, I was so hyped for Gaban to showoff.
Feb 20, 9:23 AM
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FMmatron said:
Yeah, bro. I was trying to tell people Luffy is still not quite there yet. He's OP in Gear 5th, but that comes with massive drawbacks. Ain't no way he beats a fresh Kaido in a 1vs1 without interference.

To be fair, tho, this was the obligatory Gaban fex. It's still silly how Oda always nerfs Luffy. Instead of trying to attack him calmly using Future Sight he's rushing him like a fool.

Luffy was just trying to take the key so that's normal. If it was an enemy Luffy would not "attack like a fool"
Feb 20, 10:00 AM
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FMmatron said:
Yeah, bro. I was trying to tell people Luffy is still not quite there yet. He's OP in Gear 5th, but that comes with massive drawbacks. Ain't no way he beats a fresh Kaido in a 1vs1 without interference.

To be fair, tho, this was the obligatory Gaban fex. It's still silly how Oda always nerfs Luffy. Instead of trying to attack him calmly using Future Sight he's rushing him like a fool.

Luffy was just trying to take the key so that's normal. If it was an enemy Luffy would not "attack like a fool"

He doesn't know it because he didn't read the chapter, he just wanted to start the discussion and comment something on it based on spoilers.
Feb 20, 11:06 AM

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The Gaban tease was hype! Seems like he's more on the Violent side compared to Rayleigh haha xD
Feb 20, 11:06 AM

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Very good one, let’s see what oda cooks still tho..
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Feb 20, 11:53 AM

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Bro!! If Gyaban was capable of going toe-to-toe against both Luffy and Zoro, I was gonna have a seizure.

Is Qilingam a human in his hybrid form?
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Damn the old man managed to make Zoro sweat and push Luffy enough to use Gear 5. 👀

Oh boy I've got a feeling that this Saint Sommers fella and his abilities are going to be very annoying to deal with.
Feb 20, 12:53 PM

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Abyss 🥶🙌

Yeah harold was definitely the bad guy
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Lol Gaban was giving them the work just to suddenly give up. Even as a geezer he's still quite formidable, being able to hold his own against the 2 strongest Straw Hats, as expected of the left hand of the Pirate King.

Very interesting line right there, asking if Shamrock was visiting Harald's grave. Seems like a throwaway line at first but the only logical reason for making such an assumption would be that they were on good terms with him. That's just adding more plausibility to the potential bait and switch of Harald being evil and possibly plotting with the Celestials/WG, with Loki being a good guy who had a justifiable reason to kill him.

With the arrival of 2 new Holy Knights, and Shamrock talking about turning the kidnapping of the Giant children into a game, this almost feels like we have a potential God Valley 2.0 on our hands.
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New God's Knights! That definitely wasn't how I expected them to appear but it was great lol
Qilingam is some kind of mythical dragon so that's going to need some explaining
Gyaban impressed by Luffy and his crew >>>
Feb 20, 5:09 PM
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gaban gag fight but still fun
two new gods knights quite silly


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Feb 20, 5:21 PM

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gaban is cool as hell wielding those dual axes and the god's knights seem very interesting, i like that we're seeing more of them. very sick chapter.
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Gaban is trolling Luffy and wants to fight him, he is so fast even outmaching base Luffy and he seems to have conqueror's coating, so does that mean Sanji in the future will have conqueror's haki too? Zoro blocks one of Gaban's slash attacks before it can hurt Luffy, that's the vice-captain right there. Gaban realizes that he can't beat Gear 5 Luffy so he gives up, Luffy is so cool so there is no way Gaban could have won. But Loki's key is already won by Luffy, but I'm a bit disappointed that Gaban didn't reveal who he is. Gunko summons more Holy Knights to Elbaf to kidnap children, she gives some hints about how the magic circles work. Apparently, they need some kind of mark to go through the abyss and teleport. I wonder how Gunko and Shamrock got to Elbaf without anyone to summon them.
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The panel of Luffy with the key in his mouth was hilarious😂

After Gabban gave up, was Rodo just trying to tell Luffy and Zoro that Gabban was a part of the Roger pirates or something else related to him being on Elbaf? I'm not sure

Interested to know more about the houses of the God's Knights

Saint Summers in clothes reminds me of Judge

Shamrock definitely has Garling's blood in him, will Elbaf be reminiscent of God Valley in the sense that they make a game out of it?
Feb 21, 1:37 AM
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Gyaban hype asf. The black lightning be trolling me again (does he have conquerors?? lol). His full strength would probably be around Zoro or just above I'm guessing
Poor Ulti man. She a baddie
Why tf gunko so damn hot. Fem version of aiku(blue lock) but better
I guess the magic circle teleporting is referred to as the abyss
These new gods knights goofy as hell lol
I forgot who Harald is
I guess they + Loki will be the antagonists of this arc (and maybe more people or pirates will arrive)
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Like Rayleigh Gaban's still strong. These celstial garbages going after children. Luffy better free Loki fast, he'll rip through these piece of shits.
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Gyaban hype asf. The black lightning be trolling me again (does he have conquerors?? lol). His full strength would probably be around Zoro or just above I'm guessing
Poor Ulti man. She a baddie
Why tf gunko so damn hot. Fem version of aiku(blue lock) but better
I guess the magic circle teleporting is referred to as the abyss
These new gods knights goofy as hell lol
I forgot who Harald is
I guess they + Loki will be the antagonists of this arc (and maybe more people or pirates will arrive)
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I forgot who Harald is (or if we even know). Wonder if it's Shanks and Shamrock's mum
I guess they + Loki will be the antagonists of this arc (and maybe more people or pirates will arrive)
Harald is the king of Elbaf, father of Loki and Hajurdin. They've been literally mentioning him for the past few chapters and even showed him a chapter ago lmao.
Feb 21, 5:55 PM
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I forgot who Harald is (or if we even know). Wonder if it's Shanks and Shamrock's mum
I guess they + Loki will be the antagonists of this arc (and maybe more people or pirates will arrive)
Harald is the king of Elbaf, father of Loki and Hajurdin. They've been literally mentioning him for the past few chapters and even showed him a chapter ago lmao.
@MegamiRem ah yep derp.. big brain fart moment
Feb 21, 8:26 PM

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Not the child kidnaping LMAO 😭
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The key is right behind you
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Pied piper time in 1141 I suppose
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wow

can't wait to see that animated

so they want to take the children, hummm
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Yeah, bro. I was trying to tell people Luffy is still not quite there yet. He's OP in Gear 5th, but that comes with massive drawbacks. Ain't no way he beats a fresh Kaido in a 1vs1 without interference.

To be fair, tho, this was the obligatory Gaban fex. It's still silly how Oda always nerfs Luffy. Instead of trying to attack him calmly using Future Sight he's rushing him like a fool.

Luffy was just trying to take the key so that's normal. If it was an enemy Luffy would not "attack like a fool"
@Wiper91

Luffy can usually tell how strong someone is. For instance, he remarked how tough Fujitora and Inuarashi are without seeing him in action. Luffy's Observation Haki being even better at this point makes this even dumber. Like he has Future Sight, why not stay calm and try to use it instead of taking things lightly? Oh, I forgot, this supposed to hype up Gaban, so Luffy has to look like a complete novice. If there's one thing Oda shouldn't do it's nerfing strong characters to make others look strong.

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FMmatron said:
Yeah, bro. I was trying to tell people Luffy is still not quite there yet. He's OP in Gear 5th, but that comes with massive drawbacks. Ain't no way he beats a fresh Kaido in a 1vs1 without interference.

To be fair, tho, this was the obligatory Gaban fex. It's still silly how Oda always nerfs Luffy. Instead of trying to attack him calmly using Future Sight he's rushing him like a fool.

Luffy was just trying to take the key so that's normal. If it was an enemy Luffy would not "attack like a fool"

He doesn't know it because he didn't read the chapter, he just wanted to start the discussion and comment something on it based on spoilers.
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Even the spoiler said Luffy was merely trying to get the key, heck last chapter made it obvious it's just about the key and not a serious fight. That's not the issue. It's how Luffy suddenly doesn't know when someone strong is standing in front of him despite his Observation Haki. So him going for the key half heartedly was stupid. He could've done much better.

However, it's still clear that Luffy relies on Gear 5th to fight the truly strong characters.

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Even the spoiler said Luffy was merely trying to get the key, heck last chapter made it obvious it's just about the key and not a serious fight. That's not the issue. It's how Luffy suddenly doesn't know when someone strong is standing in front of him despite his Observation Haki. So him going for the key half heartedly was stupid. He could've done much better.

However, it's still clear that Luffy relies on Gear 5th to fight the truly strong characters.

Stronger people can hide their strength probably even against observation Haki and he wasn't able to see future either. Gaban easily dodged all the attacks and hit Luffy too. Maybe Gaban was also using Haki which can negate observation Haki, and Luffy doesn't know about it that yet.

I think it's a good thing he is using gear 5 more, he will have better control over it just like previous gears.
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Even the spoiler said Luffy was merely trying to get the key, heck last chapter made it obvious it's just about the key and not a serious fight. That's not the issue. It's how Luffy suddenly doesn't know when someone strong is standing in front of him despite his Observation Haki. So him going for the key half heartedly was stupid. He could've done much better.

However, it's still clear that Luffy relies on Gear 5th to fight the truly strong characters.

Stronger people can hide their strength probably even against observation Haki and he wasn't able to see future either. Gaban easily dodged all the attacks and hit Luffy too. Maybe Gaban was also using Haki which can negate observation Haki, and Luffy doesn't know about it that yet.

I think it's a good thing he is using gear 5 more, he will have better control over it just like previous gears.
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"Probably"

There was no sign of him comcealing his presence nor any indication that Luffy couldn't use his own Observation Haki and FS. He was just conveniently not using any of his skills. It's just how Oda always does it, nerf Luffy to make his opponent look even stronger by comparison. He especially glazes the old gen. Granted this is just a skirmish, yet it could've been handled a lot better. His clashes are usually too one sided.

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