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Aug 10, 2023 5:54 AM
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Judging by the pv, it looks good for me, I like the art, maybe Youko is too tiny but it's ok. The VAs are good and I like how they showed some blood, let's hope they'll show the fights in their full glory. 37 episodes is enough, the fights are so dragged in the manga and the talking can be easily reduced
Aug 10, 2023 5:58 AM
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i recognize you, thats never a good sign.
Aug 10, 2023 6:39 AM
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Jan 2024 it's very soon for this, they're going to fucking butcher it again like how they did with biscuit hammer.

There is no hope for this as an adaptation. I don't want to hold my hopes high
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Aug 10, 2023 6:57 AM
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37 Episodes for 100 chapters are more than enough, Idk about animation, but pacing won't be a problem Ig... As long as Story goes smoothly, no problem with me even with mediocre animations...
Aug 10, 2023 7:40 AM
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As it is an White Fox production....I'm hope a quality adaptation....which it looks like it will be because of being 3 cour series ...
Aug 10, 2023 7:51 AM
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As it is an White Fox production....I'm hope a quality adaptation....which it looks like it will be because of being 3 cour series ...


hopefully they have breaks like split cours to give more production time for animators and staff
Aug 10, 2023 7:52 AM
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deg said:
FLASH619 said:
As it is an White Fox production....I'm hope a quality adaptation....which it looks like it will be because of being 3 cour series ...


hopefully they have breaks like split cours to give more production time for animators and staff

Same here..........
Aug 10, 2023 8:37 AM
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deg said:
FLASH619 said:
As it is an White Fox production....I'm hope a quality adaptation....which it looks like it will be because of being 3 cour series ...


hopefully they have breaks like split cours to give more production time for animators and staff
i think it is consecutive
Aug 10, 2023 8:38 AM
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vaedeer said:
deg said:


hopefully they have breaks like split cours to give more production time for animators and staff
i think it is consecutive


if that happens prepare for mid animation on later episodes
Aug 10, 2023 8:39 AM

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Well the staff is promising,trailer is promising and source material is promising so now everything depends on whether they will do 3 split cour or not to make a great adaption.
Aug 10, 2023 9:23 AM

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White Fox will do justice. I believe.

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Aug 10, 2023 9:27 AM

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Mizukami bros we're so fucking back. In fact we're reaching levels of we're so back never thought possible before.
Aug 10, 2023 10:10 AM

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I'm pretty optimistic about this, to be honest. The big problem with Samidare was that we literally had no news about anything but the VAs until just a few weeks before the anime aired. No PVs, no staff, no studio, nothing. Compared to that disaster, a four month announcement... really isn't that unusual, especially because we do not know at which stage of the production they are currently at. Given that Tsukiko's VA has already been cast though, I suspect that at least the first cour might already be in advanced production by this point? Considering that she really doesn't appear at all until the second arc. Senya has a role (albeit a small one) for the first arc, but Tsukiko quite literally doesn't exist in the plot at that stage yet. Well, circumstancial evidence and assumptions though, maybe they really did simply cast her that early. 

Still. White Fox has a pretty decent reputation, and the screenwriter's very experienced too. Three cours / 37episodes (confirmed by Mizukami) is just the right length for this too. The Samidare disaster spooked me, but for this one here, I'm not worried. And that's good, considering that this is my favorite Mizukami manga.
Aug 10, 2023 10:21 AM
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I hope we'll see the adaptation of Spirit Circle too one day
Aug 10, 2023 11:55 AM

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Well I've heard news of it's production dating back to a year ago so it seems like they're taking their time. Staff looks pretty good as well & Evan Call is a surprising name nonetheless. This would probably mark Mizukami's first successful adaptation in my books. 
Aug 10, 2023 12:02 PM

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I cannot believe this. I was happy with the Satoshi Mizukami manga remaining manga and never getting adapted. After the Biscuit Hammer disaster, I never thought another one would get an anime. Then, 7 years after the manga finished, Sengoku Youko gets an anime? And the PV makes it not look like complete and utter garbage? That is surprising. I'm might not watch it since I read the manga not long ago, and I'm going to be skeptical until I see the final product, but it's a little exciting to think that more people will learn about this manga from the anime.
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first off, LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO MIZUKAMI GETTING 2 ANIME ADAPTATIONS AND THE MANGA BEING RELEASED FUCK YEAHHHH.
Second off, looks a lot better than biscuit hammer.
Aug 10, 2023 12:36 PM

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Holy hell, this is my absolute favorite manga of all time from him, and I am in disbelief that it isnt getting the horrendous slideshow treatment that Biscuit Hammer got.

So thats a good sign...

Seriously though. Really liked Sengoku Youko. Hope it gets good treatment.
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Aug 10, 2023 12:46 PM

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Spirit Circle when?
Aug 10, 2023 2:37 PM

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Staff seem creditable so far and White Fox is a very reliable studio. Hopefully all goes well.
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Aug 10, 2023 3:08 PM

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yeeeeeeeeeeeeees one of the best battle shounen i've read, maybe my favorite manga from satoshi mizukami
leagues better than modern shounen like jujutsu kaisen, black clover and mha
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CrimsonWanderer said:
Jan 2024 it's very soon for this, they're going to fucking butcher it again like how they did with biscuit hammer.

There is no hope for this as an adaptation. I don't want to hold my hopes high
why lmao this is a completely different studio from biscuit hammer. and why is 2024 too soon? they obliviously have been working on it for a while
Aug 10, 2023 10:55 PM

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Best mizukami manga getting a good adaptation
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reiwa weebs will unironically tell u they want a remake or sequel but when they get it ,its suddenly souless and a cashgrab cause they dont like the thing anymore and cant fathom they grew out of it and must mean the show somehow became bad
Aug 11, 2023 2:05 AM

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Damn. This is animated by White Fox. And it has 37 episodes starting from January 2024... I didn't read the manga but based on the PV it looks great! Steins;Gate script writer already got me pumped.

Too bad Re:ZERO will probably get shafted because of this but who knows, this anime might also be indicative of future White Fox productions like Re:ZERO Season 3.

Aug 11, 2023 3:32 AM
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It's a full adaptation in 37 episodes ?
Aug 11, 2023 5:47 AM

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Phoenixfalconer said:
CrimsonWanderer said:
Jan 2024 it's very soon for this, they're going to fucking butcher it again like how they did with biscuit hammer.

There is no hope for this as an adaptation. I don't want to hold my hopes high
why lmao this is a completely different studio from biscuit hammer. and why is 2024 too soon? they obliviously have been working on it for a while
Biscuit hammer was announced the same way, a few months before it would air, idk, I just feel like January 2024 is way too soon.

White fox is also not on their greatest streak lately, their adaptation of Re:Zero Second Season had many issues from what I heard (despite me liking it, I've heard from other people, friends included, that the adaptation omitted many things), and they've had some big production issues ever since Covid 19. 

I don't want to hold my hopes high, Sengoku Youko is one of my favorite manga out there, it's understandable to be wary about it after what has been done to Samidare, despite being different studios.
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Aug 11, 2023 5:56 AM

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CrimsonWanderer said:
Phoenixfalconer said:
why lmao this is a completely different studio from biscuit hammer. and why is 2024 too soon? they obliviously have been working on it for a while
Biscuit hammer was announced the same way, a few months before it would air, idk, I just feel like January 2024 is way too soon.

White fox is also not on their greatest streak lately, their adaptation of Re:Zero Second Season had many issues from what I heard (despite me liking it, I've heard from other people, friends included, that the adaptation omitted many things), and they've had some big production issues ever since Covid 19. 

I don't want to hold my hopes high, Sengoku Youko is one of my favorite manga out there, it's understandable to be wary about it after what has been done to Samidare, despite being different studios.
Nah, that's a very, *very* shallow comparison. The actual difference is like night and day, like I mentioned in another post in this topic. While it's true that Biscuit Hammer was announced a few months before it would air, that's where the similarities end. Biscuit Hammer didn't reveal anything at all when it was announced. No staff, no studio, no trailer, nothing. Staff and studio in particular are things you simply reveal if they are already settled behind the scenes. They didn't even reveal any of that until a few weeks before it was airing though, which means production likely started after the initial announcement. (So no big surprise that it bombed as hard as it did.)

Meanwhile, we can already tell at one glance that production is more advanced for Sengoku Youko. All the key details are already presented to us, and while we don't know just how far advanced the actual production is, based on circumstancial evidence, one might make the reasonable assumption that production on the first cour is already at a more advanced stage. Again, difference like night and day. That kind of stuff makes all the difference.

Not saying you should immediately drop everything and jump for joy (there's other risks to a continuous three cour production), but at the very least, this looks much, MUCH more promising than Biscuit Hammer even did.

As for the Re:Zero omissions, that's not a decision made by the studio but rather by the director and screenwriter. So that's not something you can pin on White Fox itself, more on the staff that actually worked on the anime.
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Hitsu said:
CrimsonWanderer said:
Biscuit hammer was announced the same way, a few months before it would air, idk, I just feel like January 2024 is way too soon.

White fox is also not on their greatest streak lately, their adaptation of Re:Zero Second Season had many issues from what I heard (despite me liking it, I've heard from other people, friends included, that the adaptation omitted many things), and they've had some big production issues ever since Covid 19. 

I don't want to hold my hopes high, Sengoku Youko is one of my favorite manga out there, it's understandable to be wary about it after what has been done to Samidare, despite being different studios.
Nah, that's a very, *very* shallow comparison. The actual difference is like night and day, like I mentioned in another post in this topic. While it's true that Biscuit Hammer was announced a few months before it would air, that's where the similarities end. Biscuit Hammer didn't reveal anything at all when it was announced. No staff, no studio, no trailer, nothing. Staff and studio in particular are things you simply reveal if they are already settled behind the scenes. They didn't even reveal any of that until a few weeks before it was airing though, which means production likely started after the initial announcement. (So no big surprise that it bombed as hard as it did.)

Meanwhile, we can already tell at one glance that production is more advanced for Sengoku Youko. All the key details are already presented to us, and while we don't know just how far advanced the actual production is, based on circumstancial evidence, one might make the reasonable assumption that production on the first cour is already at a more advanced stage. Again, difference like night and day. That kind of stuff makes all the difference.

Not saying you should immediately drop everything and jump for joy (there's other risks to a continuous three cour production), but at the very least, this looks much, MUCH more promising than Biscuit Hammer even did.

As for the Re:Zero omissions, that's not a decision made by the studio but rather by the director and screenwriter. So that's not something you can pin on White Fox itself, more on the staff that actually worked on the anime.
well that's kinda fair (although makes me wonder if trailer is pre animated lol, forgive me for not trusting this haha)

at the very least I agree that it looks much better of course, hopefully I'm wrong and this adaptation proves to be exactly what it needs to be.
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Aug 11, 2023 10:54 AM

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I for once absolutely hope the 3 cours are consecutive, the last time we got a 3-cour anime was so long ago that I don't even remember, so it's refreshing to see an studio willing to take risks.
Aug 12, 2023 7:43 AM
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deg said:
vaedeer said:
i think it is consecutive


if that happens prepare for mid animation on later episodes

Is this studio known for not giving their animators enough time? Or have they been working on this for a while and only now just announced it.
Aug 12, 2023 8:13 AM

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EmmyMoomin said:
deg said:


if that happens prepare for mid animation on later episodes

Is this studio known for not giving their animators enough time? Or have they been working on this for a while and only now just announced it.


no idea but there has been staff exodus on White Fox their important animation producer left the company and made a new studio and stolen some or more of the staff from White Fox https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2040535
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EmmyMoomin said:
deg said:


if that happens prepare for mid animation on later episodes

Is this studio known for not giving their animators enough time? Or have they been working on this for a while and only now just announced it.

This fact, however, applies to 75% of studios
Aug 13, 2023 1:59 PM
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Why this....why not focus on Re:Zero and Mushoku Tensei instead
No way this anime will do more profit than those
We didn't get a release date for RZ s3 , It's not even confirmed to be animated by WF yet!
Aug 13, 2023 3:19 PM
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Hitsu said:
CrimsonWanderer said:
Biscuit hammer was announced the same way, a few months before it would air, idk, I just feel like January 2024 is way too soon.

White fox is also not on their greatest streak lately, their adaptation of Re:Zero Second Season had many issues from what I heard (despite me liking it, I've heard from other people, friends included, that the adaptation omitted many things), and they've had some big production issues ever since Covid 19. 

I don't want to hold my hopes high, Sengoku Youko is one of my favorite manga out there, it's understandable to be wary about it after what has been done to Samidare, despite being different studios.
Nah, that's a very, *very* shallow comparison. The actual difference is like night and day, like I mentioned in another post in this topic. While it's true that Biscuit Hammer was announced a few months before it would air, that's where the similarities end. Biscuit Hammer didn't reveal anything at all when it was announced. No staff, no studio, no trailer, nothing. Staff and studio in particular are things you simply reveal if they are already settled behind the scenes. They didn't even reveal any of that until a few weeks before it was airing though, which means production likely started after the initial announcement. (So no big surprise that it bombed as hard as it did.)

Meanwhile, we can already tell at one glance that production is more advanced for Sengoku Youko. All the key details are already presented to us, and while we don't know just how far advanced the actual production is, based on circumstancial evidence, one might make the reasonable assumption that production on the first cour is already at a more advanced stage. Again, difference like night and day. That kind of stuff makes all the difference.

Not saying you should immediately drop everything and jump for joy (there's other risks to a continuous three cour production), but at the very least, this looks much, MUCH more promising than Biscuit Hammer even did.

As for the Re:Zero omissions, that's not a decision made by the studio but rather by the director and screenwriter. So that's not something you can pin on White Fox itself, more on the staff that actually worked on the anime.

Mizukami mentioned that production on Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer had started in 2020, but some famous animator wanted to add in their own developments. The person left but production had collapsed twice: when they joined and when they left. You can read more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/zz5ew2/lucifer_and_the_biscuit_hammer_creatorsatoshi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
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It's a full adaptation in 37 episodes ?

Yep. The manga is 17 volumes long so 37 episodes should be enough.
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Why this....why not focus on Re:Zero and Mushoku Tensei instead
No way this anime will do more profit than those
We didn't get a release date for RZ s3 , It's not even confirmed to be animated by WF yet!

Re Zero is going to be fine. No need to hate on Sengoku Youko, especially since it's great.
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CrimsonWanderer said:
Jan 2024 it's very soon for this, they're going to fucking butcher it again like how they did with biscuit hammer.

There is no hope for this as an adaptation. I don't want to hold my hopes high
it's by studio WhiteFox. I can't remember the last anime they butchered.. It'll be just fine. They make like 1 anime in a year
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Anime_Skaddiel said:
CrimsonWanderer said:
Jan 2024 it's very soon for this, they're going to fucking butcher it again like how they did with biscuit hammer.

There is no hope for this as an adaptation. I don't want to hold my hopes high
it's by studio WhiteFox. I can't remember the last anime they butchered.. It'll be just fine. They make like 1 anime in a year
From what I know they did butcher S2 of Re:Zero, but it was barely noticeable to anime onlies 

however I do agree this looks better already than BIscuit Hammer
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Damn. This is animated by White Fox. And it has 37 episodes starting from January 2024... I didn't read the manga but based on the PV it looks great! Steins;Gate script writer already got me pumped.

Too bad Re:ZERO will probably get shafted because of this but who knows, this anime might also be indicative of future White Fox productions like Re:ZERO Season 3.

I don't think it will get shafted tbh, reliable leakers such as Ice and Pumpkin said that Re:Zero S3 has a very good and lengthy production schdule that takes into account Sengoku's anime production and resource splitting. He also said that the animation should look much better than S2, and that it should be great overall. 
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Spirit Circle when?
Okay, so, I actually read Sengoku Youko since posting this; my real first impressions are:
-I am cautiously optimistic.
-It captures Mizukami's style well with the characters thus far (at least Jinka and Shinsuke).
-The seiyuu are perfectly cast thus far. I want Ootsuka Akio to voice Douren.
-It doesn't look bad at all, but I'm sceptical of their budget. There is a fuck load of high-octane action, and most of it (everything Senya) will need Katanagatari budget to work. Especially the final fight.
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I wonder if they make the legendary 5-page spread a justice
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my reaction: 37 EPISODES? HOW DO THEY KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER?
it's like they already finished all the productions, and i know even some of the 24-episode animes completes along its way within the airing time.
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my reaction: 37 EPISODES? HOW DO THEY KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER?
it's like they already finished all the productions, and i know even some of the 24-episode animes completes along its way within the airing time.

I highly doubt they've finished the entirety of the anime yet. Judging by the trailers and voice casting, they've finished the first cour at least. Also, some of the VAs mentioned they're still in the recording process.

The 37 episode count came from the author himself. When he announced the anime adaptation on Twitter he accidentally tweeted out the 37 episode count. He then qrtd and said that he meant to say 3 cours.
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White Fox is back after I don't know how many years, it better be a banger
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I just pray this wont end up another biscuit hammer, i remember seeing u in those threads lmao
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I really hope they make it this time. That would be amazing.

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