| Since the title has this "vs" thing on it, are we supposed to have a war on which has the best gay ships? |
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kissmyanime said: Tenshi_Shura said: Since the title has this "vs" thing on it, are we supposed to have a war on which has the best gay ships? You could at least read it? It says people don't care about Haikyuu because of Yuri on Ice I did it read it lel. It was just sarcasm on my part because I don't get the point of the "vs." |
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| Haikyuu is still miles better |
| I think both are amazing, high-quality shows. A lot of people were going into Yuri!!! On Ice thinking that is was going to be an underdog show with beautiful animation with some queer bait. We were NOT expecting to see it actually get gay. With each passing episode, people grew to like the characters and their interactions and relationships. Basically, Yuri!!! On Ice is the anime where people have lots of hype concerning character development and how the relationship between the two main characters grow. Haikyuu!! has a different sense of hype. Its bright colors, flawless animation, and AMAZING OST are some things that contribute to the hype that gets you craving for more. You feel for each character and it's kind of hard to think of anyone as an 'antagonist'. Yuri!!! On Ice and Haikyuu!! are actually very similar in some ways. They make the characters enjoyable to watch and give even minor characters their own backstory and motivations (Haikyuu!! does it way better in my opinion though). They get you hyped up and make you excited to play, or at least watch, the sport. I personally enjoy Haikyuu!! much more than YOI. It doesn't feel like it's centered around Hinata, the main character. It feels like it's more focused on the entire team, which I can really appreciate. Not to say YOI is bad, or that it's wrong in focusing on Victor and Yuuri, but it feels so DISTRACTING. I mean, I like how the show's all gay, but I personally am distracted from the actual plot, and it seems like it's more focused on the romantic relationship between the two. |
| Well discounting the obvious fujoshi pandering yaoi baiting/shipping etc, they're still pretty different shows. Haikyuu is very much a "normal" sports anime in every sense of the word, just a lot better directed than most (and with unusually high production value). Yuri on Ice on the other hand feels more like a coming of age story with some light drama elements The clearest difference for me is simply based around the fact that generally speaking I don't really like sports anime and this becomes a lot more noticable in Haikyuu. Yuri on Ice doesn't real feel like a traditional sports anime; the figure skating feels more like a plot mechanic rather than the main focus, similar to how the table tennis worked in Ping Pong the Animation or the rakugo in Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, and I honestly prefer it that way. Yuri on Ice isn't as susceptible to shounen sports clichés and incredibly predictable match results like Haikyuu is, and that makes it feel more genuine to me That being said, the hilariously in-your-face gayness of Yuri on Ice is a bit overwhelming at times, but I can't help but find it funny due to how needlessly exaggerated it is, so I'm actually okay with it. Currently I have both shows at 7/10 but I'd definitely say Yuri on Ice is closer to an 8 than Haikyuu is atm |
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kissmyanime said: I'm guessing the reason why is because the fucking Haikyuu fandom only cares about their fucking gay ships, and now that they have a sports anime with the amount of gay they ask for they totally forgot about haikyuu wich is a shame because they don't focus on the story or the games. :/ what do you guys think? The "fucking Haikyuu fandom" is still here and enjoying it. You're talking about the others, I think. Furthermore Yuri is romance more than sport in the end, despite the "official" main theme of the show, what are people speaking about? Great triple axels? No. It's more about the body moves between Victor and Yuuri anywhere but on the ice. Well technically some things happened on the ice, I must admit it, but that was no ice-skating. I don't want to generalize too much though, I do think too that a part of the Yuuri on Ice fandom is also there for the ice-skating, not only the romance. YoI is a good show but it doesn't come close to all the emotions I get with this fucking one volleyball game. |
Ysad_ZiwezhanNov 25, 2016 1:52 PM
| Haikyuu is a clear sports anime and isnt a queerbait like Yuri on ice which isnt that much of a sports anime |
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| I don't get why they always get lumped together. There are hundreds of sports anime yet people just want to compete which is superior between these two. YOI is about pro-level skating and the MC is 23 years old whereas haikyuu is high-school volleyball. The reason YOI is more popular now is because it's newer and fun with various new characters appearing every episode while s3 of haikyuu remains on same match for 10 episodes. People who want to watch haikyuu will still watch it, it's not like YOI stole viewers away. |
| YoI and Haikyuu are different types of sports anime so it's really hard to compare. but since the title is YoI vs Haikyuu then here i go... YoI is good, no doubt about it, It's fresh and original! I watch it because of sports and Ice skating (and lets say because of cute boys too) HAHA! I'm not really into Yaio but I find their dynamics really interesting and funny! which is good for a not so yaio fan like me. I like the fact that its gay and honestly I'm enjoying the fanservice it provides but sometimes it gets a bit too much for my liking. I think most of YoI fans watch it mainly because of the gay undertones (which is not bad at all) and the relationship of the two main characters more than sports and ice skating itself. (But this is just my observation though) Haikyuu on the other hand for me doesn't need fanservice to be great, It doesn't need queerbaiting to become popular! though YoI does a good job of portraying their characters Haikyuu's character development however does it way better, wherein minor characters are explored and given the chance to shine! (one of haikyuu's strength). The high quality and detailed animation in haikyuu is another thing and it's beyond better than YoI, and it has been consistent since season 1 which is actually kind of scary and amazing at the same time. In terms of comedy both are equally good in their on ways, YoI with their gay teases and antics, Haikyuu with their character's naturally wild dynamics and humor. Honestly, I never liked volleyball and I've never been invested in sports but Haikyuu changed it all for me, It has made me cry, laugh, jump for joy and scream with passion at their struggles, frustration, motivations and glorious victory, Haikyuu has affected me more emotionally and physically. I never truly had that moment with YoI as of now (since its still too early to judge that), I already liked ice skatin but lately YoI is centering more with the relationship. I guess it all comes down to tastes both are justifiably good at their own theme, If you like to see a good relationship between male characters and Ice skating as a bonus then you'll definitely like YoI but If you're like me who's into sports lately, want a mild friendship, team work, great character development and plot, with added quality animation and music then you'll be obsessed with haikyuu. kissmyanime said: Everyone was talking about how hyped they were about haikyuu season 3 on insta, fb and all of the social media, but as soon as the first episode of YoI came out everyone forgot about haikyuu even tho they were expecting it months ago. I saw hundreds of YoI screen caps, fanart, textposts, etc while haikyuu got almost no atenttion despite of the hype a few months ago. I'm guessing the reason why is because the fucking Haikyuu fandom only cares about their fucking gay ships, and now that they have a sports anime with the amount of gay they ask for they totally forgot about haikyuu wich is a shame because they don't focus on the story or the games. :/ what do you guys think? and as for this... does it really matter? as a haikyuu fan, to me it doesn't. people watch YoI because it's new! its yaio and its good! My say is that whether YoI is more popular than Haikyuu today, doesn't mean Haikyuu won't be popular, hence 2 seasons are on top 20s here in MAL, The popularity and attention YoI is getting doesn't undermines the greatness of what Haikyuu is. thats what I think. oh and I've never had any actual ship in haikyuu (does shimizu and suga count? HAHA! jk!). I don't ship anyone and I didn't even feel any gay vibes in it (is it just me?) The thing is Haikyuu is not about shipping! its pure shounen sports, comedy and drama |
QueenSapphireDec 2, 2016 9:16 PM
| Where is all the Yaoi ships coming from? I can see Yuri!!! on Ice is filled with obvious Yaoi shipping, but Haikyuu? I just caught up with Haikyuu a few weeks ago and never did I once see people argue over Yaoi shipping until it got on the top 10 and people started wondering what was so great about it! Don't get me wrong I love BOTH shows and I am comfortable with Yaoi related things, but unless you are trying to see something so hard that you start to hallucinate, there is nothing to see! There are no Yaoi shippings or Queerbait in Haikyuu, all there is a bunch of guys on a volleyball team acting like idiots with each other, which is something I see on a DAILY BASIS. Finally, Haikyuu is better :P #Tsukishima4theWin #SeiyuuTanaka'sEpicLastWords |
| I feel that this season's Haikyuu isn't as good as its previous seasons. Especially since it's only focused on one game, and that I've realised that I don't really care about Shiratorizawa and its players. The game is action packed and all, but I'm starting to find the plays a little boring (god, the 'synchronised attack!' sequence is getting on my nerves), and do they have to introduce a new character every episode and then give them this backstory so we feel sorry for them and get all confused on which team to root for? And I bet that half the reason that 'haikyuu got no attention' was because there was less shipping material to work with since everything that happens (except for the flashbacks) is in-game. YoI features some canonly gay stuff so what can you expect? Tumblr explodes because they've found something better than 'subtle bl undertones' to post about. A key difference between the two series is that Haikyuu is about a team sport while YoI is about individual characters performing. Not to say that individuals don't get the spotlight in Haikyuu, but because of the sort of stage that characters are placed on in YoI when they skate, its easier for people to analyse and take notice of their personalities. Not just their thoughts, but also what kind of music they skate to, since lyrics often reflect a character's personality, and the fandom takes notice of that. Anyway, it's not like people forgot about haikyuu, it's just that a majority of the haikyuu fandom (and especially the people that run a haikyuu blog) are half in it for the ships and there just wasn't that much out-of-game-play interaction between characters. |
teacucumberNov 26, 2016 4:06 AM
| YOI had a good opening episode that' about it. The show is made by fujos for fujos, nothing more nothing less. I find the comedy and the drama cheesy and forced. Haikyuu, 3-gatsu, and Fune wo Amu are this seasons stars IMO |
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Joieeeful said: I feel that this season's Haikyuu isn't as good as its previous seasons. Especially since it's only focused on one game, and that I've realised that I don't really give a damn about Shiratorizawa and its players. The game is action packed and all, but I'm starting to find the plays a little boring (god, the 'synchronised attack!' sequence is getting on my nerves), and do they have to introduce a new character every episode and then give them this backstory so we feel sorry for them and get all confused on which team to root for? And I bet that half the reason that 'haikyuu got no attention' was because there was less shipping material to work with since everything that happens (except for the flashbacks) is in-game. YoI features some canonly gay stuff so what can you expect? Tumblr explodes because they've found something better than 'subtle bl undertones' to post about. A key difference between the two series is that Haikyuu is about a team sport while YoI is about individual characters performing. Not to say that individuals don't get the spotlight in Haikyuu, but because of the sort of stage that characters are placed on in YoI when they skate, its easier for people to analyse and take notice of their personalities. Not just their thoughts, but also what kind of music they skate to, since lyrics often reflect a character's personality, and the fandom takes notice of that. Anyway, it's not like people forgot about haikyuu, it's just that a majority of the haikyuu fandom (and especially the people that run a haikyuu blog) are half in it for the ships and there just wasn't that much out-of-game-play interaction between characters. I disagree completely, this is the best season yet. you speak alot of trash, what the hell are you saying. stating lies. where are the facts? Backstories serve their own purpose, the buildup has been excellent, it has a 9.10 rating for a reason. no one is ditching haikyuuu. YOI is popular because its new. if AOA S2 and OPM S1 both came out when OPM was new then Opm would be more discussed about becasue of its fresh ideas. thats how society works. |
DonQuixote93 said: Joieeeful said: I feel that this season's Haikyuu isn't as good as its previous seasons. Especially since it's only focused on one game, and that I've realised that I don't really give a damn about Shiratorizawa and its players. The game is action packed and all, but I'm starting to find the plays a little boring (god, the 'synchronised attack!' sequence is getting on my nerves), and do they have to introduce a new character every episode and then give them this backstory so we feel sorry for them and get all confused on which team to root for? And I bet that half the reason that 'haikyuu got no attention' was because there was less shipping material to work with since everything that happens (except for the flashbacks) is in-game. YoI features some canonly gay stuff so what can you expect? Tumblr explodes because they've found something better than 'subtle bl undertones' to post about. A key difference between the two series is that Haikyuu is about a team sport while YoI is about individual characters performing. Not to say that individuals don't get the spotlight in Haikyuu, but because of the sort of stage that characters are placed on in YoI when they skate, its easier for people to analyse and take notice of their personalities. Not just their thoughts, but also what kind of music they skate to, since lyrics often reflect a character's personality, and the fandom takes notice of that. Anyway, it's not like people forgot about haikyuu, it's just that a majority of the haikyuu fandom (and especially the people that run a haikyuu blog) are half in it for the ships and there just wasn't that much out-of-game-play interaction between characters. Okay, call it nitpicking if you want, but how exactly do they introduce a new character in every episode? We saw everyone in ep 1, didn't we? And we knew that S3 will be about Karasuno vs Shiratorizawa all along so if you don't like it don't watch it... Either that or at least don't trash it with stuff that aren't true. And you say that you don't give a damn about Shiratorizawa's players... That's why they show their backstories in "every" episode, to make people care about Shiratorizawa and its players, that's how it was in the manga as well and they did it good. If it doesn't work for you, then fine. okay sure, I exaggerated with the the 'every episode' notion. Sorry if I've offended you or if it seems like I hate the show, which I don't, it's just something about the backstories and flashbacks that I find jarring when placed in the middle of the game. Without interactions outside of the court I find it hard to care about these new characters, even with all the backstories to try and make me feel that way. Other than that, I do love haikyuu, no doubt about it. |
Dajoeman said: Joieeeful said: I feel that this season's Haikyuu isn't as good as its previous seasons. Especially since it's only focused on one game, and that I've realised that I don't really give a damn about Shiratorizawa and its players. The game is action packed and all, but I'm starting to find the plays a little boring (god, the 'synchronised attack!' sequence is getting on my nerves), and do they have to introduce a new character every episode and then give them this backstory so we feel sorry for them and get all confused on which team to root for? And I bet that half the reason that 'haikyuu got no attention' was because there was less shipping material to work with since everything that happens (except for the flashbacks) is in-game. YoI features some canonly gay stuff so what can you expect? Tumblr explodes because they've found something better than 'subtle bl undertones' to post about. A key difference between the two series is that Haikyuu is about a team sport while YoI is about individual characters performing. Not to say that individuals don't get the spotlight in Haikyuu, but because of the sort of stage that characters are placed on in YoI when they skate, its easier for people to analyse and take notice of their personalities. Not just their thoughts, but also what kind of music they skate to, since lyrics often reflect a character's personality, and the fandom takes notice of that. Anyway, it's not like people forgot about haikyuu, it's just that a majority of the haikyuu fandom (and especially the people that run a haikyuu blog) are half in it for the ships and there just wasn't that much out-of-game-play interaction between characters. I disagree completely, this is the best season yet. you speak alot of trash, what the hell are you saying. stating lies. where are the facts? Backstories serve their own purpose, the buildup has been excellent, it has a 9.10 rating for a reason. no one is ditching haikyuuu. YOI is popular because its new. if AOA S2 and OPM S1 both came out when OPM was new then Opm would be more discussed about becasue of its fresh ideas. thats how society works. Sorry about that, but this is an opinion and I'm not stating it as a fact. I never said that people are ditching haikyuu, and I agree that people like yoi more because it's new, with new characters and scenes to analyse, which is natural. Haikyuu's high rating is also because it's the third seaso; people who liked the first and second season a lot are the ones stuck around for the third time to give it such a high score. Again, I'm not trying to trash talk haikyuu, I didn't realise this would be such an unpopular opinion... |
teacucumberNov 26, 2016 4:22 AM
DonQuixote93 said: Joieeeful said: okay sure, I exaggerated with the the 'every episode' notion. Sorry if I've offended you or if it seems like I hate the show, which I don't, it's just something about the backstories and flashbacks that I find jarring when placed in the middle of the game. Without interactions outside of the court I find it hard to care about these new characters, even with all the backstories to try and make me feel that way. Other than that, I do love haikyuu, no doubt about it. Nah, it's okay, I know that everyone has his own opinion so I'm sorry for getting so mad. I'm getting tired of the synchronised attack, too :D but I think they make up for it with the other plays. And Tsukishima finally got the shine that he so desperately needed which is awesome. Why do I get carried away again. Nevermind. Cheers! Thanks for putting up with my little rant. I really did like the character development from Tsukishima as well, he was a character who desperately needed some screen time and they delivered, which makes me happy :') I know got a little carried away on my Shiratorizawa hate, I guess I'm still salty about Seijou's loss haha |
RaySapphire said: oh and I've never had any actual ship in haikyuu (does shimizu and suga count? HAHA! jk!). I don't ship anyone and I didn't even feel any gay vibes in it (is it just me?) The thing is Haikyuu is not about shipping! its pure shounen sports, comedy and drama Actually that's maybe my only little regret about previous Haikyuu seasons, there are no "real" ships, nothing, not even on the hetero-level. Most of the characters have a (volley)ball full of air in their skull instead of a d.... You wonder if they have hormones (except the manager fanboys, sure, but in return she is colder than an iceberg). Above all, even it there was an unrequited interest somewhere, there was ZERO development, nothing, only love for volleyball. So, I too am amazed that some were able to fantasize some ships but I'm learning not to underestimate the power of imagination in this community. They see things where there's nothing. They have this extra magical power. I don't know whether I should be jealous or not :) |
Ysad_ZiwezhanNov 26, 2016 5:14 AM
| To be honest this wouldn't be a heathly comparison anyways since YOI only has 8 ep at this current moment on the other hand Haikyuu has 2 , 25 ep. long seasons and the airing 3rd one.So much characterization , build up , hype Haikyuu!! is the CLEAR victor if we really had to make one.. Also dw Haikyuu!!'s respective fandom who cares about the real story is still there I'm one of them.Most people say this season of Haikyuu!! is rather shallow compared to the previous to but I'd say it's just as good if not better.Sure seeing them training to get stronger characterization , cute funny moments are good but this season especially Tsukki's episodes were soo good everything is about this long ass game and I'm loving every second of it.Another reason why this season may not appeal to some people is because this season is just a tiny bit more serious than the previous 2 which comedy is a huge component of what makes Haikyuu haikyuu. YOI drew attention because it's something entirely new (Figure Skating) and ofc arguably a canon gay couple and lots lots of manservice.Now that doesn't mean it's a bad nor a really good anime I personally think YOI is kinda an average sports anime but not because I despise gay ships I acutally appreciate that show is depicting a real gay couple rather than bait. Overall no denying YOI is the fan favorite of this season but I don't think it completely outshadowed Haikyuu nor stole its fans also it's not like as if you cannot watch and enjoy them both! |
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Ysad_Ziwezhan said: Actually that's maybe my only little regret about previous Haikyuu seasons, there are no "real" ships, nothing, not even on the hetero-level. Most of the characters have a (volley)ball full of air in their skull instead of a d.... You wonder if they have hormones (except the manager fanboys, sure, but in return she is colder than an iceberg). Above all, even it there was an unrequited interest somewhere, there was ZERO development, nothing, only love for volleyball. So, I too am amazed that some were able to fantasize some ships but I'm learning not to underestimate the power of imagination in this community. They see things where there's nothing. They have this extra magical power. I don't know whether I should be jealous or not :) You're right haikyuu has zero to none when it comes to romance. HAHA! just a few crush/admiration and thats it. but we can't really expect anything romantic to happen when it comes to shounen plus the sports genre. and I think It'll always stay as just a volleyball sports anime until the end. so it's really up to someone's wild imagination to believe that there is something going on. It really depends on a person, and for me I'm perfectly fine w/out the romance. The story, characters, animation & sounds of haikyuu can already make up for it. |
QueenSapphireNov 26, 2016 10:05 PM
| I don't watch Yuri on Ice but this comparison is like comparing apples to oranges. |
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| another childish thread... you already know which one is better! |
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Joieeeful said: Dajoeman said: I disagree completely, this is the best season yet. you speak alot of trash, what the hell are you saying. stating lies. where are the facts? Backstories serve their own purpose, the buildup has been excellent, it has a 9.10 rating for a reason. no one is ditching haikyuuu. YOI is popular because its new. if AOA S2 and OPM S1 both came out when OPM was new then Opm would be more discussed about becasue of its fresh ideas. thats how society works. Sorry about that, but this is an opinion and I'm not stating it as a fact. I never said that people are ditching haikyuu, and I agree that people like yoi more because it's new, with new characters and scenes to analyse, which is natural. Haikyuu's high rating is also because it's the third seaso; people who liked the first and second season a lot are the ones stuck around for the third time to give it such a high score. Again, I'm not trying to trash talk haikyuu, I didn't realise this would be such an unpopular opinion... I didn't want to sound harsh but i want to apologize, if my message was seen as hurtful towards. I totally understand. Every show has its bad days, maybe because i'm a huge fan of the show that i get into heated arguments. Anyways sorry again. |
| Both of them are my favorites so I don't really need to claim which is better because I like them in a different way. |
| they're 2 completely different shows despite having the same genre. haikyuu is more of your hyped intense sports anime that gives you some sort of heart problem from all the excitement. yuri on ice is more focused on character and relationship development rather than the sports aspect, even though the sports is still there (and quite beautiful as well). also yuri on ice actually represents a realistic gay relationship while haikyuu is mostly queer bait (we know no romantic development will ever be canon) they're hard to compare because they're so different. but i think the reason why yuri on ice is stealing the spotlight is because it's possibly the first sports anime to create a canon relationship between the characters instead of just bait...bait everywhere.... yuri on ice is just something refreshing and something unique that we haven't seen before as well, ice skating is quite difficult to animate so no one dared to create an anime about it. a new setting as well, high school students are getting a bit old. 20+ yr old characters are always welcomed. to be honest the fact that they have Russian characters and some culture is a big bonus for me since that's where i'm from (personal bias i guess). also you get something new each episode rather than the good old shabam shapow volleyball smashes every episode (as much as i love haikyuu, it's a bit repetitive after 3 seasons). overall i think both are entertaining in their own ways |
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| They need to strip YOI of its 'sports' tag asap and attach 'shounen ai' and 'drama' to it |
| I really wanted to like Yoi but I just don't, Idk what it is but there is just something missing to get me excited about it Idk. The characters, plot well none of it appeals to me. Not even the fcking ships lol Idk something is just off for me. It was the opposite with Haikyuu lol I thought I would hate it cause I've never liked a sports anime before but Haikyuu freaking blew me away. |
| Hard to compare an original show to a show on its third season. |
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| I prefer Yuri on ice since I'm more interested in figure skating than volleyball, it also has more drama. The yaoi ruins it though. |
| They are both 10 in my list. Fight me, OP~~~~ :3 |
CtrlZED said: Haikyuu, 3-gatsu, and Fune wo Amu are this seasons stars IMO Yes, absolutely yes and yes. I don't get why people perceive sports anime as "gay". When there are plenty of buttslaps and hugs in real life sports. I enjoy watching a basketball or baseball game as much as watching an anime about them. |
SheRebelsDec 2, 2016 1:33 PM
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| no. girls push like gay haikyuu feels so hard they should just stop. i understand yuri but haikyuu? more cancer the girls love to put onto the series. nothing is sacred to them. nothing. |
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Ysad_Ziwezhan said: So, I too am amazed that some were able to fantasize some ships but I'm learning not to underestimate the power of imagination in this community. They see things where there's nothing. They have this extra magical power. So true. Even I had a hard time trying to figure out where exactly was the baiting which many claimed was there in Haikyuu, till I realized it is all a matter of perspective, change your lenses and you'll see a different world. |
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| This is an apples to oranges comparison. One is about an individual based sport, and the other is team based. Both have wildly different styles of narrative, pacing, and character relationships. |
Amen, too bad masashi didn't get that through his head. |
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| Nope..I like haikyuu more than Yuri on Ice. |
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| Hell. Fucking. No. Yuri on Ice has so many fans just because of yaoi. The story itself isn't anything special. That show is the definition of ''popular/=good''. It can't even compare with Haikyuu |
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| YOI is not all that good, especially compared to Haikyuu!! |
| Good Lord please no! YoI is so shitty. "Yuri!!! on Ice is a sports anime television series about figure skating. " - the internet Hahahahaha like where? It's just a piece of crap full of fanservice and low-quality performances. Haikyuu!! is not my fav sports anime but let's be honest. It's waaaay better with the plot about the sport <wow> not yaoi, with good animation and great characters. I still want to forget about YoI. :') And yes I'm a fujoshi and yes I prefer ice skating and yes my fav seiyuu is one of the characters there but I'm just honest. |
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