Maison Ikkoku

Mar 24, 2010

Archaeon

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"What we've got here is... failure to communicate." - Cool Hand Luke

Misunderstandings are brought about by a failure to convey what one truly wants to say. In many cases the problems caused are nothing more than trivialities, but in certain situations a misunderstanding can have damaging consequences. Relationships can end, families can turn against each other, friends can become enemies, misunderstandings can even spark wars.

Maison Ikkoku is probably one of the most well known and influential romantic comedies in the history of manga and anime. Created in 1980 by the reknowned Takahashi Rumiko, the manga was serialised in "Big Comic Spirits" for its entire ... 7 year run. The story was adapted into a 96 episode anime in 1986, and also spawned a movie, three OVAs, and a music special.

The tale begins with Godai Yusaku, a student who is attempting to leave the the boarding house known as Maison Ikkoku as he feels that the residents there are hindering his studies and causing him to fail his exams. He changes his mind however, when a beautiful woman, Otonashi Kyoko, appears and tells everyone that she is the new manager.

Now, many people consider the story in Maison Ikkoku to be a straightforward romantic comedy with indecisive lead characters, and to be honest, this is a perfectly reasonable and logical conclusion - on the surface. What really struck me about this series though, wasn't actually the romance or the comedy, both of which were pretty decent. No, what really stood out for me was the fact that the main concept seemed to be about misunderstandings, in particular how they can force people to behave in certain ways over time (more on this in a bit).

While the majority of the story flows pretty well, one of the issues that some people have with Maison Ikkoku is that there is a large section in the middle of the series where it seems as though nothing in particular happens. While I can understand that perspective, I actually thought this was a rather clever way of highlighting how time can pass with nothing actually happening. Those of you who are familiar with Takahashi Rumiko's other works will know that she is an author who doesn't approach a story in a typical manner, and that her tales aren't often straightforward affairs.

That said, even I felt that the middle section of the series dragged on a bit too long, however I didn't really get bored of reading the series as the comedy made up for some of the shortfalls.

As far as the artwork goes the series shows its age in two main areas - the drawing style and the character design. This is particularly noticeable at the beginning of the series and may put some people off reading the series altogether. However, while the style may be typical Takahashi Rumiko, the series is particularly indicative of how her she developed during the course of the manga, and the latter half of the series is more reminiscent of much of her later work.

Even though the series does have some flaws with the artwork, some of the visual gags were truly inspired and the characters are a lot more expressive and emotive than one might expect from a series this old.

One of the biggest gripes people have with Maison Ikkoku is the characters. I've heard it mentioned that if both lead characters were less indecisive then the series could have been completed in half the time, and even I have to agree with that statement. However, I would have to add that certain ways of thinking, certain behaviours, become habitual in a very short space of time. Kyoko's inability to choose between Godai Yusakui and Mitaka Shun is one example of how the characters become accustomed to a certain situation - something that can happen in real life as well. The middle section of the series is the area where these habits are most prominent, and it's actually rather nice to see a mangaka acknowledge that any type of relationship can become stale when one is simply "going through the motions".

One thing I will add is that while both character display a clear inability to make a decision, Takahashi has made the effort to justify their indecisiveness to a degree.

As far as development goes, much of it occurs on the part of Yusaku and Kyoko, however a number of other characters are also given some depth over the course of the series, and while the amount may vary from one character to the next, the series is surprising in its ambition to give every character a moment in the spotlight.

In terms of enjoyment, Maison Ikkoku is one of those stories that you can love and hate at the same time. The romance and comedy are well handled, however the numerous misunderstandings that lead compound Yusaku and Kyoko's indecisiveness can become annoying for some people, and I will admit that the series tested even my patience on a couple of occasions.

That said, if you can work through the flaws in the plot, the poor artwork at the beginning, the numerous misunderstandings, etc, then what is left is a surprisingly charming series with some unique characters. One thing that many people may find though, is how similar Maison Ikkoku is to later romantic comedies, but given that many took inspiration/borrowed/stole outright from this series, it's understandable that there would be more than a passing resemblance.

Still, they do say plagiarism is the first form of flattery :P

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Mar 13, 2009

AironicallyHuman

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Maison Ikkoku: the famous, much loved romantic comedy (rom-com) that began its serialisation waaaay back in 1980. Its success resulted in a flood of manga being created about a college loser falling madly in love and, after many comical hardships, EVENTUALLY getting the girl of his dreams.

The story is about a group of individuals living at a boarding house that is - of course - called Maison Ikkoku ('MI' from this point onwards). Kyoko Otonashi, a 22-year-old widow still trying to come to terms with the death of her husband, moves in as the manager in an attempt to take her mind off her problems. ...

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Dec 23, 2017

Yautja

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While not the worst manga I have ever read, Maison Ikkoku is certainly the manga I hate most. A seemingly unthinkable opinion given the reviews and recommendations that seem to drip of this work in buckets worth. Any and all of those reviews seem to take what I view as the reasons that this manga is a god awful piece of shit as reasons that it is amazing and wonderful, or give the manga a great rating while acknowledging how glaring these issues are. I'll try to cover them, and I can on some of them understand it is simple a difference of taste, but ...

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Jan 23, 2015

Noto0803

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Maison Ikkoku, Where the love blooms

Maison ikkoku is the perfect sample of the Romance Comedy that actually have Romance and Comedy, Unlike these days Romance Comedy which full of filler story and such, Maison Ikkoku is not that kind of manga. A full guarantee of Happiness , Misunderstanding , Comedy and Romance all the way in this Manga.

Reading Maison Ikkoku was a great experience. For you that looking for straight drama in the early chapter, well i guess you will disappointed because the "real" drama starts at chapter 100. although you might found some little drama before chapter 100, but other than that its ...

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Oct 17, 2020

unimportantuser

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Its been 40 years since this manga was released onto this world. This #1, masterpiece manga by Rumiko Takahashi. Twas over a year ago that I watched the anime and about 9 months since I reviewed the anime, which I dubbed both a masterpiece and my favorite anime of all time. I'm now back to tackle the original source in celebration of both the 40th anniversary (which I’m a bit early on), and my ever lasting love of this series. This review will mostly be comparisons between the anime and the manga as quite honestly, a lot of what is to be said here are ...

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Jun 5, 2021

coopman

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“ The woman I love burns with jealously, leaps to conclusions, cries, and turns to ice... but when she laughs... the world is mine.”

This series is perfect. Takahashi is a genius. I will never forget how this series has made me feel. I am sitting here after just finishing the final chapter and I am blown away.

I know romantic comedy and slice-of-life isn’t for everyone, but if anyone is reading this who is considering it, please pick this up. Takahashi’s characters are incredibly real and this series is unlike so many others in my opinion. It kept me on the edge of my seat and ...

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Jun 9, 2016

fodderchara18

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"The woman you love... hey, what's she like?"

"The woman i love...
burns with jealousy
leaps to conclusions
cries
and turns to ice
but

when she laughs...
...
... the world is mine"

So i finally managed to complete Maison Ikkoku (manga). Better late than never, i suppose.

It's a classic and you can instantly see why. Quite honestly, Takahashi Rumiko really has something that no other mangaka has. And i'm not talking about her bank account, mind you. The woman is amazingly talented, period.

And so, Maison Ikkoku is a wonderful story that you can fully enjoy even 30 years later. Even if Maison Ikkoku did age in certain aspects. Even if it can be seriously frustrating to read at times. Even if it's far from perfect, the "heart" is undoubtedly still there. Rumiko's very unique style is still there and you can easily recognize it. No one in the world has quite the same sense of humor, the same art style, the same wittiness and nonchalancy she so easily applies in her storytelling, the cheer silliness and nonsense in the borderline inane situations she often creates and let's never forget the lovably idiot characters she brings to life in her manga. It's like she vibrantly unleashes her inner baka as she writes and draws, and the final result is a gleeful mixture of her own childishness and inate talent for drawing manga. The paneling, the pacing, the character expressions and the way they express their feelings and emotions, the patterns you can clearly recognize on every character's behaviour and how human and relatable they feel to the reader. Her officially stated lack of planning ahead and her uncaring method of just making up as she goes along, it's all very idiosyncratic. In many ways i think she's like an open book, and you can read her just fine if you want to.

The way i see it, Maison Ikkoku is result of all her virtues and (annoyingly lovable, in my opinion) flaws. Truthfully, i think for you to enjoy Rumiko's manga, you gotta be as much of a baka as her characters. You gotta be someone who does stupid things (quite often). You have to be someone who does stuff on a whim only to regret it some minutes later. You gotta embrace the silliness in everyday life and smile about it. You gotta accept the avalanche of misunderstanding that hinder the story from progressing right until the very end. And above everything else, understand why they happen. To grow up and to face the mistakes you make, accepting your good and bad points, to find someone you love; and last but certainly not least, be willing to share with him/her your miso soup every morning.

In other words, to be like Kyouko and Godai, our two protagonists in this wonderful story. This is a long jouney of two people through the many hardships one can find in life, and at its core, a coming-of-age narrative of two people who had to learn how to communicate with each other, who had to battle against their own ghosts and their many shortcomings. It's a story of acceptance. Of two people who had to grow, but could not possibly do it alone and never without the other. Not without the the one they have grown to know and love and accept and trust. Such is Maison Ikkoku, a love story that knows no age and will always remain timeless for any person with an human heart beating inside of them.

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Oct 12, 2010

burntlettuce

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Maison Ikkoku will have you both crying and laughing, both angry and at ease, and both content but wanting more. Takahashi Rumiko has set up the prefect formula in making a successful romantic comedy.

A lot of people will complain on how the series drags in the middle, and this is probably true. This series could have been about 100 chapters shorter and still had been as good. But at the same time this series could have been 100 chapters longer and still been as good. This is the charm of Rumiko. You might get angry at the countless number of misunderstandings that happen for ... no reason, but by the end of the chapter you will feel incredibly satisfied. She is able to make everything in this manga serve a purpose, and when looking back at that, it's truly astounding. And to her credit, the length of this series was prefect. It made the ending of this manga powerful. And I will be damned if this isn't the best conclusion to a romantic story that I have ever come across. Honestly the end is definitely the past part of this series, no doubt in that, but it would not have been nearly as powerful if she did not put the effort into her characters and making you actually care for them as she did.

Which brings me next to the next part, the characters. People love to fly off about how bad the characters are because of their indecisiveness. But the thing they fail to see, is that these are the characters. There is development, and it's powerful. But one of Rumiko's powers is her power over characterization. She lays out who these characters are and that's it. There is no seemingly huge event that changes them, it's just little things that add to growth. But at the end of the day these characters are who they are, and that is people. Never before have I read something to where each character was so believable as themselves. Kyoko is just a widow who is deafly afraid of being alone, and Godai is just an average guy who lacks self confidence. That's it, these are who they are. And at the end, even when they finally come to accept it, it's still who they are. And that's what makes them so powerful. The story is their struggle to accept their faults and try to move on, and at the end they do accept them. But at the same time those faults are still with them, because at the end of the day that is who they are.And Rumiko does a great job of getting this off to the reader, letting us know that these are people just like everyone else.

If there was one thing that could take away from this otherwise wonderful manga it would be the art style. Don't get me wrong the characters and character expressions are done really well. In fact the character expressions are done so flawless that they actually manage to add another layer to the emotional depth of this manga. But the background images of this manga are just really poor. The sky a lot of the time is this really weird dark smudge that just takes away from the experience. In fact I had to laugh at one point, Kyoko was walking outside and said "What a beautiful day" but because of the way the sky was drawn it looked like it was about to storm. The art isn't a major set-back, and it can be dealt with. In fact you will be looking at the characters expressions so much that you won't notice a lot. But there are times when it will come out and strike the reader and it was enough for me to count this as a flaw against a seemingly flawless read.

Overall Maison Ikkoku is a great read. One of the best things I have ever come across. This manga is a roller-coaster of emotions. It will have you reaching for the tissues, your neighbors will yell at you for laughing too loudly, and events will transpire that will leave you speechless. All of it leading up to one of the most powerful endings ever. So if you are searching for a very above average romantic comedy then please look no further. Maison Ikkoku will take you on a journey of which you will never forget.

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Nov 24, 2019

whylime

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TL;DR: Maison Ikkoku is the romance comedy that will make your heart go doki-doki and feel a little less lonely inside. Definite recommendation for any fans of the genre or Rumiko Takahashi in general.

L;DR
When I first began Maison Ikkoku, I didn't have high expectations. Sure, I was coming in as a great fan of Rumiko Takahashi, but I guess the art and plot line of Maison Ikkoku didn't appeal to me. Still, I'm always in the mood for a good romance--so I began reading.

Then, of course, I read more. And more. And more.

Maison Ikkoku has so much heart. Just from reading, the emotions of ... the characters seem to leap straight from the page. As a reader, it is so easy to immerse yourself into Maison Ikkoku, to watch these fun characters bounce off each other. Sure--it's a romance-comedy manga. So... not everything that happens is realistic, per say.
But, and I'm not quite sure how to explain this, their emotions are so realistic, even if the situations they arise in are not. Kyoko's intense jealousy but unwillingness to let go of her past. Yusaku's constant pressure to be good enough, to succeed in the job hunt, and the depression he falls into. Not only that, each character is developed inexplicably well. The strange group that is the tenants of Maison Ikkoku each have their own personalities that blend together so well.

Maison Ikkoku is simply so, so easy to fall in love with.

The story, like most Takahashi works, revolves around jealousy, misunderstandings, and love triangles galore. If you're not a fan of any of those tropes I don't recommend Maison Ikkoku (or any Rumiko Takahashi work for that matter). But I'm a sucker for a good romance, and Maison Ikkoku gave me all the feels while still maintaining a comedic and fun tone.

One aspect I loved about the story was how time flowed. Years pass in a natural way- no time skips, but just the natural way time flows. A lot of manga and anime have their characters stuck in an eternal time loop of never growing up, but over the course of Maison Ikkoku you can really watch the characters grow and develop, and this just makes you care for them that much more. There's visible difference between Yusaku of chapter 1 and Yusaku of chapter 160, and the same goes for everyone else. The relationships are so fun to watch too. Everything flows naturally. It's wonderful.

Maison Ikkoku is technically very episodic. Most conflicts get wrapped up within a chapter or two, and then there begins a new event. This isn't the manga to binge-read, but rather to enjoy in small doses.

Oh, and one more thing- the ending. The. Ending. Is. Satisfying. So if you're the kind of person who can't stand an unresolved ending, don't worry.

Go read Maison Ikkoku.

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Jul 22, 2020

rectified_rascal

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NOTE: This review is in direct comparison to the anime and assumes that the reader has either seen the anime or is at the very least familiar with it. Some minor spoilers for the anime are inevitable and so reading discretion is advised.

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Art:
I have been watching anime since the mid-1990s. However, most of the spurt happened only in the early 2000s with the onset of fansubs and series like Naruto and Bleach. The reason why I bring this up is because the first impression that one gets when starting Maison Ikkoku is something similar when reading a work by Shakespeare. The language is weird with ... phrases like “where art thou?” which throw off the modern reader, the humor is off-key and is not readily accessible and so on. And yet, as one reads on – the reader becomes used to the language and even starts enjoying the rhythm of Middle English and revels in Shakespeare’s comedy/tragedy. Something similar happens with Maison Ikkoku – the first few volumes just seem jarring – the character designs are weird, the shading is very different from modern art styles and the art just feels “off”. And yet, as one reads along, one comes to the realization that the art is not bad, it’s just different. For instance, some backgrounds are downright gorgeous – with meticulous detail given to penciling and shading. Also, the way Rumiko draws Kyoko’s hair (especially in the latter volumes) reveals that she is as talented in drawing as any other manga-ka today. The Viz translations translate all the SFX effects which are of great help considering much of the emotions of the characters are revealed by that. Sadly, Viz eschews with the honorifics which in my opinion is a mistake.

Story and Characters:
As mentioned earlier, I will refrain from going into depth on the positives and negatives of the story. They are similar to those in the anime – i.e. there are a lot of sitcom hijinks, people don’t communicate properly and some characters can come off as either crass or irritating. In the following part of the review, I am going to focus on the differences between the manga and the anime.
1. The biggest difference between the anime and the manga is the flow of the plot in the manga is much smoother and is handled better. The anime sometimes resorts to filler, leaves out some characters (e.g. Nikkaido) and on the whole sacrifices the drama/romance for the sake of comedy. Here is one example: In the anime, when Godai moves back into Maison Ikkoku in episode 30, it is never shown how he gets his lost stuff back. However in the manga, it is shown how Kyoko helps Godai in getting his stuff. Now this is hardly a major plot point but it reveals that the anime prefers to leave out these few scenes which could have given the characters more depth for the sake of comedy.
2. The other major point of difference is that while the manga keeps both Kyoko and Godai in focus, the anime focuses primarily on Godai. The manga gives Kyoko a lot more screen-time and internalizes her far more than the Kyoko in the anime. To take another example: just as how Godai daydreams of living with Kyoko, Kyoko too sometimes begins to daydream of being with him (much to her embarrassment and for our humor). She gets angry, seethes with jealousy, throws temper tantrums whenever someone gets between her and Godai. When he doesn’t come to see her, she gets despondent and forlorn. She feels lovesick when he is not around and is shown to be a far more supportive of Godai in the manga than in the anime. This too results in some very humorous and touching scenes that are much more prevalent in the manga than in the anime.
3. However, where the manga clearly outshines the anime is in the final two volumes and how it deals with the characterization of Kyoko. For a manga that has male readers as its target demographic, the final two volumes are incredibly mature for their time. The final volume, especially, forgoes all its shonen-rom-com tropes and has events that are no longer PG-13. Again, while the anime chooses to put Godai in the center with Kyoko being the passive person in their relationship, the manga chooses to place Kyoko in the spotlight. We see that just as how Godai wants to be with her, Kyoko also intensely desires to be with him. However, her inner conflict of being loyal to the memory of her late husband remains and while in the anime it behooves upon Godai to break her prevarication, in the manga it is Kyoko who actively breaks the final barrier. And the way the final volume executes on this is so natural and realistic, that it ends up becoming one of the most poignant and rewarding moment of the entire series. While, the manga shows both of our protagonists trying to move towards each other, the anime persists on keeping just Godai in the center of attention. And that to me, makes the manga superior to the anime.

Value:
Over the past several years that I have seen anime and read manga, Maison Ikkoku (both the anime and manga) stands out as one of the few series that I have read, seen, re-read and re-watched over and over again. The words "epic" and "masterpiece" are words that have sadly lost much of their import since they tend to be used indiscriminately to characterize works that don't truly deserve such epithets. I can safely say that Maison Ikkoku is a work that does deserve such an esteemed title – it is truly a masterclass when it comes to romance. Like Nausicaa (another work from the 1980s), it is a masterpiece because it’s evergreen. Or as the Japanese would say "名作こそ青い".

I can't urge people enough to read this work. Maison Ikkoku is intended for all those who like their romance which progresses slowly and steadily, who like their stories to culminate in one of the most satisfying endings that they can ever expect to see/read in the history of anime/manga. While it does have age going against it, and the art takes a while to get used to, the characters of Maison Ikkoku remain as fresh and as poignant today in 2020 as they did when they originated from the pen of Rumiko in the mid-1980s. Such poignancy can only come with sincerity. It is now up to the viewers to read it and enjoy this gem.

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Sep 14, 2023

AGiantWeeb

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There were times I loved this story, and times I hated this story. You can say I have a love/hate relationship with this story, because honestly, the characters are some of the worst humans to exist, and the best. This manga is a paradox, it is both bad and good. It's a slog that you can't stop reading.

I don't like Shoujo, but I read it because it's a famous manga. I don't regret having read it, and now that I have I hope to purge it from my memory and never think about it again. It's a story that's worth reading once. Never again tho.

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Feb 29, 2024

breddie_sucks

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"You take my place in the showdown
I'll observe with a pitiful eye
I'd humbly ask for forgiveness
A request well beyond you and I"

- Joy Division in the song "Heart and Soul" from "Closer"

Maison Ikkoku may not be the best thing since Citizen Kane, but personally great enough to resonate in my heart, impart quite strong emotions from me, to the point where I nearly had a meltdown at one point. It's your classic romcom, with the male MC seeming even more plain and flaccid than his counterparts from other romcoms, but we see a metamorphosis of relationship, silent, quiet but very deeply entrenched. Godai could have ... just passed off Kyoko as a passing cloud of teenage infatuation which presumptously could not be achieved, and Kyoko could have just continued to revel in ressentiment or find a suitor for the saketh of; but that didn't end up being the case; Godai's immature infatuation and Kyoko's trauma hangover, which aged into resentment, brought upon something more beautiful, something which could not be put in words, something which makes little nuances in life seem expensive and rich, aged in a cask if to say.

Initially, I was fine with the raw and harsh comedic twists, for which I have no complaints, in fact, I am happy that there are media which acknowledge the fates of probabilities in real life. But the last 20-30 chapters are an emotional rollercoaster, quickly swinging from wholesome humor to heavy second-hand embarassment/pain which makes you throw the book onto a wall. Godai's circumstances may seem exaggerated from a layman's eye, but it seemed pretty palatable enough for me, for I have seen people who get repeatedly uppercutted but still remain standing in the ring. People often forget that people change with time, and the span of time required to be able to define the change is, bitter as it is, very long, as in the count of years. Godai changed from a ronin pushed only by societal pressures and teenage infatuations transitioned into a person who found himself a stable lifestyle and a sweetheart who passively lead him to that point, may it be however long it took to cement his stance.

People may think Mitaka's arc was wrapped up messily, but he got what he reaped. Mitaka is a guy who invested heavily into impressions and factitious countenance; and in the end, he got interwined into a relationship with a factitious bride by his factitious family, somehow by his poodle which he adopted purely for factitious ambitions. In the end, he is not cast into the deepest annals of hell, but he is able to live a happy and satiable life, however factitious it was. That is life. You can be a manipulative dickweed who is driven by pure factitious ambitions, but the repercussion of his countenance lead him into a series of events which he didn't anticipate, but he didn't dwell in resentment either.

Kozue and Yagami arcs may seem underdeveloped from the naked eye, but looking from a more reasonable and pragmatic perspective, it is, as far as I could phrase it, normal. Kozue matured into an adult and slowly withdrawn from Godai due to little vicissitudes of life. Yagami had to swallow the pill of her reality and had to put a stop to her embarrassingly romanticized endeavour. These matters may seem implausible in a simple sentence, but to quote a track name from The Jazz Crusaders, "Little Things Mean A Lot".

What I loved the most in this manga is the representation of Kyoko's resentment, and how it was handled in the end. Kyoko may not have amended her possessiveness and emotion-driven actions, but she was able to find someone to nurture with who can handle the "de-merits". People have flaws, at times, it's flawed to call those characteristics "flaws", it's what it makes us humans. Kyoko wasn't able to get over her late husband's death, but it aged into something more warm if you will. Soichiro's image not being fully described even until the end is a testimony of it. Soichiro as a human who happened to be a teacher may have ceased to exist, but Soichiro as a doting husband to Kyoko persisted, only that it became passive and more mature. The final monologue with Godai and Soichiro transcended into the realms of humane purity, indiscriminate of petty presumptions and conventions. The humility, the organic love expressed in it is just beyond human.

My descriptions may seem too romanticized or you may think I am full-on drunk or high on weed; but as for now I am only feeling high on caffeine, my mind too fast that it melts into a cloudy emotional mishmash. To roll out a conclusion, Maison Ikkoku has left some deep personal impressions which changed my perspectives over some matters, and despite being sad that it ended, I am happy that it happened.

"I wouldn't even trust you
I've not got much to give
We're dealing in the limits
And we don't know who with

You may think that I'm out of hand
That I'm naive, I'll understand
On this occasion, it's not true
Look at me, I'm not you"

- New Order in "Regret" from "Republic"

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Mar 22, 2024

YotsubaEnjoyer

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I'm finally finished the manga. It was great! Not perfect, here's my issues.
Everyone's an idiot. It made me beyond frustrated so many times. Not because I wasn't getting what I wanted in the story, but because it's just plain random easily solvable forced conflict derived from misunderstandings and often insane one in a million chance coincidences. They do this over and over. Now it's not like they don't have a reason to be upset over whatever problem they have, but there is a total lack of basic communication. Kyoko is a stubborn dumb lady who refuses to hear anyone's explanation. Godai is an idiot ...

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Oct 2, 2021

sparkle_sparkle

Not Recommended

Preliminary (5/162 chp)

The guy who is supposed to be the love interest is a pervert, in fact all the men in the first five chapters that I read were. The men made a hole in one of the girls bedroom wall and watched her as she sleep and stared at her in her underwear. And the main guy felt another up and made very inappropriate comments. I'm not going to waste my time reading about horny men sexually harassing woman. Some people might say its just for comedy sake, its not meant to be taken serious blah blah blah. I take it the people who rated this ...

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