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Jan 27, 2013 12:28 AM
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Damn, what a beast. Kassim sure isn't the same anymore..

Anyways, good episode imo. I can't believe Morgania got blown away like that like she was almost nothing. Nice to see Judal back. I missed him:



Seems like Kassim is his new djinn. Oh shit. 5/5

Nice to see Aladdin back as well :)
Jan 27, 2013 2:08 AM
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Somehow I was expecting this to be a bit more epic but the anime kinda went for either really slow/still scenes and slow dramatic music. Kinda ruined Aladdin's entrance...
Jan 27, 2013 11:56 AM
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Did Kassim die at the end of this episode? o.o I didn't see him...

Finally Aladdin came back and rescued Alibaba. Nice!


Jan 27, 2013 4:11 PM
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dg20 said:
Somehow I was expecting this to be a bit more epic but the anime kinda went for either really slow/still scenes and slow dramatic music. Kinda ruined Aladdin's entrance...
This is what I really want to talk about. For me, there were just way to many pauses in between a fight. Watching Alibaba fights monster, it was like, "CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ALREADY, stop standing around!" It is like they are trying to drag this on. It would be so much better if they can talk and fight at the same time. (But that would increase the production vcalue) :/

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Did Kassim die at the end of this episode? o.o I didn't see him...
Well, Kassim monster kind of "disappeared" in the end. I assumed that he vanished because of Aladdin's heat magic.
Jan 27, 2013 6:34 PM
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Yay, my Judal returned. I missed him! :D
Fight was a little slow. Like Shih above said, there were too many pauses between the fights. Still an interesting episode though. Hopefully, considering what is to come, it will get a whole lot more interesting next week. c:
Jan 27, 2013 7:10 PM
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Shih said:
dg20 said:
Somehow I was expecting this to be a bit more epic but the anime kinda went for either really slow/still scenes and slow dramatic music. Kinda ruined Aladdin's entrance...
This is what I really want to talk about. For me, there were just way to many pauses in between a fight. Watching Alibaba fights monster, it was like, "CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ALREADY, stop standing around!" It is like they are trying to drag this on. It would be so much better if they can talk and fight at the same time. (But that would increase the production vcalue) :/

Daipyon said:
Did Kassim die at the end of this episode? o.o I didn't see him...
Well, Kassim monster kind of "disappeared" in the end. I assumed that he vanished because of Aladdin's heat magic.


Yeah, Aladdin didn't even get the 'wow Aladdin is invincible right now' (that lasted way longer in the manga) moment. I think it was a few seconds and then he announced he couldn't win by himself.
Jan 27, 2013 7:43 PM
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I probably wont watch the anime until the next arc. Alibaba obsession with Kassim is damn annoying. I just know the next arc is funny as hell. I hope we dont get an original ending.
Jan 27, 2013 8:05 PM
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Thanks, solazora and bonifide, at least you guys got my hopes up for next arc. After watching this episode, I was thinking "golden time anime really isn't my thing. I might as well just read the manga." Well, I guess that I'll continue for now.
But still, I think this episode has the worst battle scene so far.

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Alibaba obsession with Kassim is damn annoying.
Can't agree more. I was hoping Morgiana would say something like "Alibaba-san, that's not Kassim anymore. Just kill that monster." Maybe the author is trying to give us the feeling of "killing someone like your family member is hard."
Jan 27, 2013 11:36 PM
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Shih said:
Thanks, solazora and bonifide, at least you guys got my hopes up for next arc. After watching this episode, I was thinking "golden time anime really isn't my thing. I might as well just read the manga." Well, I guess that I'll continue for now.
But still, I think this episode has the worst battle scene so far.


The manga is amazing, and I'd suggest reading it. But I will say that so long as A-1 stays true to the manga for at least the majority of the TV series, then for the most part the anime shouldn't be a disappointment. Trust me though, the next arc will be so worth the wait. c:
Jan 28, 2013 10:41 AM

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Took a quick look at the raw, they didn't do the Solomon's Wisdom part as good as I was hoping. :(
Jan 28, 2013 8:31 PM

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This whole Rukh and Magoi system makes no sense at all, I really hope they explain it later on other than
good episode, sad to see Kassim succumb to the dark Rukh and Alibaba having to deal with it.
I wonder who that green hair dude is that he knows so much about Magi yet he's not one himself.
Jan 28, 2013 8:38 PM

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Loved the episode, it had too many pauses, but still was good.
Judal and Aladdins comeback was nice, and Sinbad is finally close to recovering his vessels, I wanna see him fight...
Currently watching everything that comes out to avoid missing something good...

Jan 28, 2013 8:43 PM

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Filling up a chunk of the first page with complaints of slow subbing. One day late isn't even that bad, guys. =/

Not a bad episode at all. Good to see Aladdin back in action. :)
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Hurray! Aladdin is back! I like how he isn't overconfident about his powers, and even says he'll need Alibaba's help. I agree that there were a lot of pauses in this episode, I feel that the animators at A-1 are a little lazy sometimes...aside from that, it's still a good episode. I'm also glad that the citizens are finally getting back their senses .
Jan 28, 2013 8:58 PM
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This whole Rukh and Magoi system makes no sense at all, I really hope they explain it later on other than
good episode, sad to see Kassim succumb to the dark Rukh and Alibaba having to deal with it.
I wonder who that green hair dude is that he knows so much about Magi yet he's not one himself.


The green haired masked dude? He'll be explained if the anime gets through the Sindria arc.
Jan 28, 2013 9:12 PM

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Not a bad episode IMO. The Black Djinn is a beast and the characters sure are strong, being send flying and crash into a wall and yet still okay.


Jan 28, 2013 10:07 PM

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Judal is your typical shounen villain with all talk and always getting the bad beating.

Here is a small list containing different versions of Judal for you:
Judal ver.0.9
Judal ver.2.1
Judal ver.2.4

I am sure there are plenty more out there. so the list may go on and on and on.

I am surprised that he has quite a lot of fan for being such a cliched shounen villain. I hope he proves me wrong and becomes something worth than what he seems at this moment.

Overall, the episode was very enjoyable. Definitely worth continuing even though my gut feels it will end up as those long running never ending shounen with nothing of significant value achieved after 3 digits of episodes.
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Jan 29, 2013 12:08 AM

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Wow....and here I thought they couldn't get any worse at adapting Magi but damn did they prove me wrong........
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Jan 29, 2013 12:42 AM

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That sure was amazing . I love this anime , prolly the best one that came out recently .
Jan 29, 2013 1:05 AM

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A-1, quit shitting on this show.

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Jan 29, 2013 1:08 AM

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yay, judal is back! that makes me happy :D

but besides that i still think that whole magoi and rukh stuff is a bit confusing. i don't know if i didn't pay enough attention or if they just rushed through it. either way i guess i'll lhave to look it up today and try to make some sense of it.

(and i know that magi is a shonen anime, but it's still a bummer for me everytime to see that the main characters suddenly (and often mysteriously) become stronger and that they can more or less easily defeat the enemy who's supposed to be oh so powerful. as i said - i shouldn't complain about it because it's typical, but i would still like to see a popular anime without that typical story line. magi is still a good anime though.)
Jan 29, 2013 2:08 AM

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yay, judal is back! that makes me happy :D

but besides that i still think that whole magoi and rukh stuff is a bit confusing. i don't know if i didn't pay enough attention or if they just rushed through it. either way i guess i'll lhave to look it up today and try to make some sense of it.

(and i know that magi is a shonen anime, but it's still a bummer for me everytime to see that the main characters suddenly (and often mysteriously) become stronger and that they can more or less easily defeat the enemy who's supposed to be oh so powerful. as i said - i shouldn't complain about it because it's typical, but i would still like to see a popular anime without that typical story line. magi is still a good anime though.)


Except Aladdin just admitted that he can't win. So he's not become that unstoppable uber one button hit win machine.
Jan 29, 2013 4:38 AM

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I gotta say, out of the whole Balbadd arc, or possibly the whole anime so far, they adapted this part by far the poorest. It was really exciting in the manga, my favourite part, but I didn't get anything like the same feel when watching the episode. Don't really have much of a problem with the anime like a lot of the other manga readers do, but this was pretty poor.
Jan 29, 2013 5:00 AM

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good episode, but I have to agree that it feels more amazing in the manga
Aladdin obtained Solomon Wisdom, can't wait to see him in action
Jan 29, 2013 5:52 AM

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Oh people, look up there in the sky, what is that? A bird? A plane?

No, it's lil' OP Aladdin coming to save us all.

Pretty good episode, glad to see Judal and Aladdin's comeback, as well as some action from Sinbad.
Jan 29, 2013 6:15 AM
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It kinda felt boring in the first half. got a lil better in the next. animation felt like it took a dip from the previous ep. sad that ugo is officially gone.


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Jan 29, 2013 6:51 AM

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Loving this anime, I almost got goosebumps when Aladdin quietly appeared flying on the golden bird. Although this episode was a bit too slow for me, too much stopping and starting in the fight, as others have said.

Also Alibaba's obsession with Kassim is annoying me too, especially after everything Kassim has done to him, but I guess that's part of his good nature I suppose.

Now hurry up ep 17! >.<
I should start reading the manga too :P
Jan 29, 2013 7:33 AM
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I guess that's enough, I can't stand another moment of this BS. It seems A-1 aren't planning to adapt any better, and they decided to make this seem as typical shounen-like as possible. I can already see Zagan's dungeon crammed in 2 episodes like they did with Amon's too, same goes to Sindria's arc. I also can't imagine how horrible the current war would be if they reached it. So yeah, I guess they ruined enough.

Btw, any idea when the OST will be released?
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Jan 29, 2013 7:51 AM

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wow aladin returned finally...I didn't miss him thoughXD
Jan 29, 2013 7:55 AM
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Soooooo freaking slooooooooow chaaaaapteeer
Jan 29, 2013 8:12 AM

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Like all the above me said, slow ep. and bad animation..><"
Tha manga was more exiciting and better..
I hope they don't ruin the Sindria's arc and zagan's arc.
But apparently that's impossible for them..

P.S: MAGI SOUNDTRACK Up to the volume on Balbad
will release 3.27 , it's written in the official site here:
http://www.project-magi.com/news/news_detail.html?p=1&id=16717
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P.S: MAGI SOUNDTRACK Up to the volume on Balbad
will release 3.27 , it's written in the official site here:
http://www.project-magi.com/news/news_detail.html?p=1&id=16717
It seems we'll have to wait a bit more for them. Thanks.
Jan 29, 2013 9:43 AM

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Ah, the good ol free talking action trope.
Jan 29, 2013 10:34 AM

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Shounen clichés everywhere. Not too surprising.

The most annoying part though is Alibaba's obsession with Kassim. Just kill the bastard already. The dude is causing all this pain and suffering and you hesitate to kill him after all he's done to you. Come on.

Nothing but dragged out BS. Hope they get passed this soon.
Jan 29, 2013 11:17 AM

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FUCK IS IT NEXT WEEK YET? I WANT EPISODE 17 NOW

Agh, frustration and impatience aside, this episode felt so short. It was good, although I kind of foresaw a lot of scenes like Aladdin making a flashy entrance to "save the day" and boost Alibaba's confidence. (This is a shonen anime series, after all.) I look forward to next week's episode, though, even if the plot is veering more and more towards shonen cliches. I also can't wait to see the Kou Empire and get introduced to that kid with the spear.
Jan 29, 2013 11:44 AM

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WOW. wow. WOW.

THIS EPISODE WAS AWFUL. It was shit, bad, trash. Not because of the content but because of the production. That quality. That animation.

As expected of A-1. You guys did it again. This is so ridiculous. I was crying while watching this episode because of the bad animation.

Sigh. I wish I can mail A-1... if they don't want to work seriously then just stop working for good. Seriously. So bad.
Jan 29, 2013 11:56 AM
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Meh, stupid cliffhanger.
Jan 29, 2013 11:58 AM

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I'm honestly getting a bit bored of Magi. I think it may be stemming from the slow-ish pacing, or just the fact that I don't particularly care for any of the characters. I hope this arc is over soon. And as someone pointed out earlier in this thread, Judal is seriously like another version of Envy! They're almost identical in personality and behaviour. I bet Judal will have a sad backstory too.
Jan 29, 2013 12:07 PM
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..I don't particularly care for any of the characters...
That's because A-1 didn't bother to give the characters any characterization and they made the villain seem not important and just normal characters that they didn't leave any first impression, Kassim namely, and the previous villains like Jamil and Fatima. They're just skimming through the chapters (71 chapters in 16 episodes, yeah). Oh and guess who's responsible for the series composition.
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It's odd though because manga readers complain that they cut out too many things and anime only viewers complain about how slow it is, must be all the still frames.

Candor said:
itsvero said:
..I don't particularly care for any of the characters...
That's because A-1 didn't bother to give the characters any characterization, Kassim namely

Cassim is one of my favorites and when I come on here everyone hates him and i'm like damn.


lawl tho:

"Dat u Kassim?
Oh my bad! It's just a random old man."



Edit: Can I hope that they don't royaly fuq up Sharrkan the 8 generals entrance for me?

v classic. oh Alibaba you're not going to beat Sinbad looking like that! Someone in the animation staff must hate him a lot. :{
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It's odd though because manga readers complain that they cut out too many things and anime only viewers complain about how slowit is, must be all the still frames.
Candor said:
itsvero said:
..I don't particularly care for any of the characters...
That's because A-1 didn't bother to give the characters any characterization, Kassim namely

Cassim is one of my favorites and when I come on here everyone hates him and i'm like damn.
Funny thing, he's also one of my favorite characters in the series. Do I need to remember you with the first panel he appeared in in the manga? Here:

I was waiting for Kassim's entrance, I was really excited. That epic music started, the camera started going upwards..

The same goes with Jamil, he was one great villain in the manga, but "No!, let's ruin yet another character, he doesn't have anything to do with the overall plot therefore no need to foreshadow him, we have 115 chapters we need to make them fit in 25 episodes!"

While we're at it, I thought I'd throw this classic from episode 9 here:


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parfaited said:

Edit: Can I hope that they don't royaly fuq up Sharrkan the 8 generals entrance for me?
Didn't they already? They skipped yet a couple panels where Sinbad introduced the countries and the panel focused on their faces. (A-1: "Well, fuck it! why should we focus on them when we'll they'll appear again in the next arc?!") < Expect a couple more derp-faces when all of them appear.
I think they also forgot there's a word called "World-building".
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Is it me or did they forget awesome battle music to this episode...
Jan 29, 2013 3:49 PM

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Seems like a lot of hate this ep. Personally, I thought it was just like the previous ones.
Gotta wait another week again ~_~
Jan 29, 2013 3:51 PM

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Loved this episode especially the ending with Solomon's wisdom .
Jan 29, 2013 3:53 PM

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Candor said:
itsvero said:
..I don't particularly care for any of the characters...
That's because A-1 didn't bother to give the characters any characterization and they made the villain seem not important and just normal characters that they didn't leave any first impression, Kassim namely, and the previous villains like Jamil and Fatima. They're just skimming through the chapters (71 chapters in 16 episodes, yeah). Oh and guess who's responsible for the series composition.


I was looking for SAO Composition writer there, but i found Guilty Crown instead!!!
Jan 29, 2013 4:10 PM

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Aladdin is so cool with Solomon's Wisdom :DDD
Felt kinda bad for Alibaba since he had to try to kill his bestfriend but Alibaba was prtty useless in the beginning :c
Jan 29, 2013 4:25 PM

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Lovely episode.

I just love to see how Morg develops into a kinder person episode by episode.
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Jan 29, 2013 4:37 PM
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I believe roughly 70% of this episode was wasted on reaction shots.
Jan 29, 2013 4:57 PM
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Candor said:
itsvero said:
..I don't particularly care for any of the characters...
That's because A-1 didn't bother to give the characters any characterization and they made the villain seem not important and just normal characters that they didn't leave any first impression, Kassim namely, and the previous villains like Jamil and Fatima. They're just skimming through the chapters (71 chapters in 16 episodes, yeah). Oh and guess who's responsible for the series composition.


I was looking for SAO Composition writer there, but i found Guilty Crown instead!!!
You noticed the similarities, didn't you? A-1 turned Magi into a mix of Guilty Crown and SAO actually: an annoying brat (voiced by Kaji Yuki) with the plot revolving around him while all the other characters turned into plot-devices without any importance or relevance to the story other than helping the MC. Even Morgiana, she became mere fan-service, and she's the only reason most Magi anime-viewers are still watching the show. Though the only difference with SAO and GC is that Magi has shit animation.

What a pity. Here are my hopes for a remake after a couple of years, with a decent studio adapting Magi and giving it what it deserves.
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Yeah, I was trying to be more open minded to this anime adaption, but this episode was the last straw. The only thing to hope for is a remake.
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