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Aug 22, 2010 10:35 PM
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A lot of "real politics"
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Jul 19, 2013 12:07 PM
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No one else wrote in this episode discussion? I thought this was a great episode, with Athrun lecturing Shinn :) Shinn is too inexperienced to understand where Athrun is coming from, but hopefully he can change his views a little from this conversation. Athrun is a capable and understanding leader, even Shinn should realize this.

And lol at Lacus and crew watching Meer perform. Meer's outfit is really weird...not only that, but she ruined the song and changed it into some pop/upbeat music, it's totally not "quiet" like the song is trying to say =_=
Aug 10, 2013 12:08 AM
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LOL Cagalli was wearing Athrun's ring on her wedding to that jerk.
Feb 14, 2014 9:35 AM
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Meer is slandering Lacus' reputation. And she ruined such a perfectly good song by turning it into a jingly pop song. Nevertheless it was amusing to see Kira and Lacus' reaction to Meer lol
Aug 11, 2014 9:30 AM
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For all the hate that SEED Destiny gets as a show, I feel that one thing they're doing correctly is making Athrun more of the hero than Kira this time. Athrun was more likable than Kira and a better character in the first series, and now he's justifiably getting more screentime than Kira in the second series.

Athrun is a voice of reason in a sea full of assholes and crybabies. It's easy to root for him.
Sep 14, 2014 1:52 AM
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Both Athrun and Kira went through the same trials and tragedies and emerged with the same answer. The difference right now is Athrun hasn't picked up on Durandal's scheming while Kira has due to the Lacus attack.

That lecture by Athrun hurt even more than the Brightslaps. Hopefully Shinn will start to wake up.
May 24, 2015 8:06 PM
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(rewatching)

Lol at Meyrin trying on her sister's skirt.
Aug 16, 2015 8:43 PM
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I really hope that some of what Athrun said sinks in Shinn's head.
I think if he stopped being an asshole to everyone, he may be a likable character.
And Meer destroyed Lacus' song. That sounded horrible compared to the original. Lol
Apr 10, 2016 9:51 PM
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One of the slower episodes with focus and the politics but I didn't really mind it.
May 30, 2016 10:15 AM

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I was fond of Durandal, but it seems that he is going to be a villain.
Aug 1, 2017 12:27 AM

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I could see Durandal coming from a mile away. He was way too compassinate and understanding a leader to be a genuinely honest man. Now let's see how far he goes to accomplish whatever goal he has in mind.
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this episode was so neccessarry, i feel like this is the first time we actually got to get any real focus on shinn as a character rather than just some angry pilot. Durandal was pretty obvious to be the villain the whole way through, he could make a good antagonist but knowing this show's bad reputation i wont expect much.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 22, 2020 6:37 PM

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Finally, the conversation that should've happened like 12 episodes ago. They could've gotten into this discussion if they simply didnt have Athrun just be quiet when spoken to earlier.
Oct 23, 2021 9:48 AM

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I liked the briefing on the strategic situation of the Earth campaign, wish we had gotten more of that in mecha. The only mecha show that did that extensively was Dragonar.

Shin's pouting face is cute.

Feb 3, 2022 1:51 AM

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Well, this was decent. I still don't understand why everyone is constantly surprised when they discover that the person they are talking with is Athrun. Is this a future where photography was never invented so you won't know how famous people look until you meet them?
Dec 23, 2023 1:54 AM

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I think this is the first great episode of the show, the dialogues between Athrun and Shin were very good.
I like the fact that Athrun is more protagonist in this show.
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Athrun has wise words towards Shinn

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