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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This was actually quite an interesting episode. I kept wondering how the Sakuragi/Isihara situation was going to ultimately play out. Isihara's managed to get pretty crazy. One thing I'm finding interesting about this show lately is the English voice acting, it seems they actually got a couple native speakers to do lines. What's most surprising is that (when they're using a native speaker) the English is actually much better than your standard American dub, it seems. I think that provides some interesting insight onto the old "is Japanese voice acting really better, or can you just not tell the difference?" discussion, for those people who can't tell the difference. And of course the big question remains... will Sakuragi die? I doubt it, though. |
hikky said: And of course the big question remains... will Sakuragi die? I doubt it, though. Yeeeeeaaaaah, I can't see him getting out of this at all. Preview pretty much confirmed. (I also noticed the English voice acting actually sounded like they got actual voice actors) Hey, Ishihara, Sasaki...burn...in a fire. |
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| I can't believe I almost believed Ishihara's little breakdown... |
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garfield15 said: hikky said: And of course the big question remains... will Sakuragi die? I doubt it, though. Yeeeeeaaaaah, I can't see him getting out of this at all. Preview pretty much confirmed. (I also noticed the English voice acting actually sounded like they got actual voice actors) Hey, Ishihara, Sasaki...burn...in a fire. Oh, that's another story then. I always skip the previews to avoid that kind of thing, but I guess that isn't so surprising either. |
| I can't help but find it the biggest stupidity that Sakuragi gave the letter to Ishihara , now he would've shown it to the police and everything would be over. Btw , didn't they free Sakuragi because of the letter ? There's no way Sasaki could known that the letter was ripped ... |
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Hente said: I can't believe I almost believed Ishihara's little breakdown... alwaysbored said: I can't help but find it the biggest stupidity that Sakuragi gave the letter to Ishihara , now he would've shown it to the police and everything would be over. Btw , didn't they free Sakuragi because of the letter ? There's no way Sasaki could known that the letter was ripped ... these! but i do see where he's coming from when he handed the letter, but he could have made a fake copy :< and i fell for ishihara's speech. that bastard *raaaaage* i hope sakuragi survives ;w; |
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| I really like this show, especially after they got out of jail. I really hope Sakuragi gets out of that trouble. But he was unconscious when he was brought out of jail. He could be stated innocent. But I guess he wouldn't ever agree to that.. However, I do hate that bastard Ishiara, couldn't you just kill him off? It's all his fault anyway! And that pervy doc, KILL him! |
| I was liking the previous two episodes, but this episode but handing the letter over, not finishing Ishihara and now Sakuragi getting caught, it all seemed so unnecessary. Oh well 2 more eps top see if we get closure or just a bad ending. |
SkyFade said: I was liking the previous two episodes, but this episode but handing the letter over, not finishing Ishihara and now Sakuragi getting caught, it all seemed so unnecessary. Oh well 2 more eps top see if we get closure or just a bad ending. I read somewhere that rainbow has 24 episodes :o |
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SkyFade said: How on earth did you know that rainbow has about 13 episodes? source?I was liking the previous two episodes, but this episode but handing the letter over, not finishing Ishihara and now Sakuragi getting caught, it all seemed so unnecessary. Oh well 2 more eps top see if we get closure or just a bad ending. anyway, fuck that perv doctor. Seems like sakuragi won't have a normal living after all these shit happens. |
| Underwhelming, slow and boring episode after one fantastic and one very good episode. But well, from a quick look at the preview (and ot's also the normal development at the stage of the script we're in), it seems like Sakuragi dies in the next ep, and that would be the best thing that could happen to make the other characters grow. |
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| I like Rokurouta and everything, but he's gotta be kind of retarded to give Ishihara the letter. Ishihara obviously wasn't going to just leave everyone alone, he'd use his possession of the letter to his advantage. :/ And holy shit, was I the only one that cringed when Mario used his right hand to punch and you could hear the bones cracking? That sound made me wince in pain. I was thinking Rokurouta would die next episode after seeing the preview, but then I realized a ton of other previews made it seem like he would die when in reality he was merely hurt. |
| damn why in the hell did i believe in ishihara´s story. I should have expected that. |
| Giving away that letter and then getting stabbed. Wow! Doesn't matter how great a heart he has, I can't but have to say Sakuragi is retarded. Anyways, for those who are wondering about the preview [Promise]: Click at your own risk: |
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shanimebib said: Best spoiler I've read all day |
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garfield15 said: shanimebib said: Best spoiler I've read all day If you want to be so damn spoiled, unless you already read the original novel (which is now being translated to manga): |
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shanimebib said: If you want to be so damn spoiled, unless you already read the original novel (which is now being translated to manga): Ah, no no no, I just meant the Ishihara part, I was happy about. Not reading the rest (averts eyes) |
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| Oh i just remember reading in a subbing site, 13 eps I think, but nothing legit, so sorry about that. But still, looking back at the few eps, it doesnt feel it can stretch to 24. But ive never read the novel, so who knows if technically there are more villains than the ones weve seen thus far, although I cant imagine anything more sadistic than Ishihara. |
| over-narrated IMO |
| This episode really pissed me off. Why Sakuragi gave Ishihara the letter? I will never understand that. And that doctor who again wants to destroy Sakuragi's life, he's so annoying. |
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shanimebib said: garfield15 said: shanimebib said: Best spoiler I've read all day If you want to be so damn spoiled, unless you already read the original novel (which is now being translated to manga): couldn't resist not to read it , really wanted to know what was gonna happen ? *what a bad habit >.<* |
Purple-EJun 17, 2010 11:17 AM
| Sakuragi is the heroin that is noble and humble, it is to be expected that he would pull a 'save everybody' act. But with the previews and him getting shot, I think he might just throw the knife at the Gaydoc which provokes the firing. I honestly hope that this is 13 episodes because if it stretches to 26, I fear that things will go down hill, and fast. Edit: Honestly, spoiler tags are so useless. If you care to spoil, you should say 'send me a message and i'll tell you what happens'. Curiosity kills the cat. |
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| Yeah. Anchan is the epitome of the good guy. The only issue is that the 'make my enemies friends' act only works in shounen. I was shocked at how easily he brushed that guy off everytime; a bit overdone. Plus, Isihara deserved to get actual punishment for what he did. Surprised that this has not been confirmed as a thirten episode show. Sasaki sold out ishihara at this point. While the doctor is the mastermind he cannot do anything without the help of ishihara, so it would be pointless for things to go much more. |
| I can't believe I actually believed Ishihara's turn-for-the-better act. What an idiot >_> |
| I was also a bit naive to believe Ishiharas acting, now I feel so damn bad about Sakuragi. I think there's no doubt about him dying in the next episode~ |
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| AAAH! I can't belive that I almost felt sorry for Ishihara before he stabbed Sakuragi! Damn that doctor.. can't he just die already? I hope they won't find the other guys.. :| Edit: I hate spoilers.. I just can't keep myself from reading them. </3 |
FahlaineJun 18, 2010 7:47 AM
Optime olere occisum hostem! |
| I swear. Ishihara gets uglier by the episode. |
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| I knew somthing like this would happen until now everything was not predictable. cant wait until the next episode |
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| Hulk Ishihara smash. |
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| Being nice to an enemy, leaving them alone and/or listening to their stories are something that shouldn't be done here. I don't know what came over Sakuragi's mind to do these things to the man who made his life miserable and has the possibility to make it worse if left alone. But I still wonder if he's going to be all right. Previews are sometimes misleading. |
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Ecks_Ess said: I swear. Ishihara gets uglier by the episode. This and I also fell for his forgiveness act =( Please survive Sakuragi ;_; |
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belatkuro said: Being nice to an enemy, leaving them alone and/or listening to their stories are something that shouldn't be done here. I don't know what came over Sakuragi's mind to do these things to the man who made his life miserable and has the possibility to make it worse if left alone. Sakuragi was thinking ahead rather than dwelling on the past. If you watched carefully since the start what kind of character Sakuragi is, he has a lot of compassion behind that strong intimidating front. He only snaps when his friends get harmed. He has seen through how far gone, lost and pathetic that Ishihara has become. |
| Sakuragi should have killed Ishihara while he had the chance. Now he'll probably die, and I wonder what he'll reach by dying. |
| I like Lilly. |
| This episode was weak. Sakuragi is stupid for giving him the letter. I can't believe he thought that giving him the letter would end everything and he would live happily ever after. lol You know what would have ended everything Sakuragi? Turning the letter over to the police causing the dirty scum to go to prison. Simple. I was really let down by this episode. |
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| I really didn't excpect sakuragi to kill isihara... nor does giving him the letter surprise me. I don't know, the whole "unbreakable character and spirit to the point of making stupid decisions" thing is pretty common in anime. |
| What the fuck, Sakuragi? If you had your friend's suicide note why didn't you take it to the police straight away? Then all this pain and suffering might have been avoided. And now you're going to die, for no reason. Blah. I had really high hopes for this show but a lot of it has left me disappointed. |
| No matter how patriotic American soldier is. they will never go kamikaze. The determination of Japanese soldier during WW2 has prove something to the world. For me,I am astounded by the American's speech in this episode.My spine feel a sudden chill and I think I understand a bit of why the emotion in this series is a bit thick. Although it is a bit late to rate this series, but I guess I give it a nice 10/10 ^^ OMG Sakuragi will of preparedness and determination really makes me tremble .This Anime is nice stuff X) yamakasi said: no one is a sinner here. Sakuragi knows that very well.That is why Sakuragi say Ishihara is stupid when Ishihara stab him.That part is very important and I hope you will understand it^^What the fuck, Sakuragi? If you had your friend's suicide note why didn't you take it to the police straight away? Then all this pain and suffering might have been avoided. And now you're going to die, for no reason. |
MorningGloryJun 22, 2010 4:45 AM
MorningGlory said: no one is a sinner here. Sakuragi knows that very well.That is why Sakuragi say Ishihara is stupid when Ishihara stab him.That part is very important and I hope you will understand it^^ I don't understand what you're saying, no, and I don't understand how it is relevant to what I said. |
yamakasi said: MorningGlory said: no one is a sinner here. Sakuragi knows that very well.That is why Sakuragi say Ishihara is stupid when Ishihara stab him.That part is very important and I hope you will understand it^^ I don't understand what you're saying, no, and I don't understand how it is relevant to what I said. Actually when Sakuragi say Ishihara is stupid is because that he is doing something wrong (sin).And thus,I assume Sakuragi understand ishihara's wrong doing.Of course that doesn't make me think that he forgive the Sin.The reason that I assume Sakuragi forgive Ishihara's Sin is because Sakuragi did not fight back at all."Not fighting back" means he do not want to hurt Ishihara because he know why Ishihara's wrong doing.And the main cause of is the " Letter" .Ishihara is fighting crazily for that stinking letter.If giving the "letter" to the police will not do any good to Ishihara and sakuragi knows it very well because he also commit the same crime(he kill his father) back then.Sakuragi do not want the same thing to happen again.I think this is something called as trauma or something..... His father did not die,but his father die because Sakuragi cause him to die.You can try connect this two event .If you still don't understand then I will further explain on Sakuragi's past mistake. Tips: personified Ishihara as his father and Ishihara as Ishihara LOL from MAL: In episode 4, it is revealed that he didn't really kill his father. His father was depressed that he survived a war where his sons died, and Sakuragi said harsh things to him because he didn't understand, causing his father to commit suicide. Sakuragi blames himself, and keeps insisting that he's the reason his father is dead. |
shanimebib said: garfield15 said: shanimebib said: Best spoiler I've read all day If you want to be so damn spoiled, unless you already read the original novel (which is now being translated to manga): Uh, you were wrong? Ishihara was still alive in episode 12 rofl. |
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| This was the worst episode the show has done. The whole emotional center of the show (Sakuragi's word to his raped friend) ends up being a token gesture so he can live a happy life. That's total bullshit. Everyone needs to die. Bumped down to a 3. I'm going to the next episode now. |
| Wow. I can't believe this anime had Sakuragi give the note to Ishihara. Why do I even watch this anymore. This anime makes absolutely no sense. Worst writing I have EVER seen. |
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| Looks like a lot of people here either cannot understand nor accept the concept of letting go of the past and not having it being a ball-and-chain. Sakuragi on seeing what Ishihara had become, he sees that Ishihara poses more harm to himself than to them. Giving up the confession letter lets him let go of the past. |
leongsh said: Looks like a lot of people here either cannot understand nor accept the concept of letting go of the past and not having it being a ball-and-chain. Sakuragi on seeing what Ishihara had become, he sees that Ishihara poses more harm to himself than to them. Giving up the confession letter lets him let go of the past. Letting go of the past is fine, but Sakuragi can do that by himself in a quiet moment of self-reflection. He didn't have to give up the letter to do that, which could have been given to the police. Just because he was fine with not dealing with it anymore doesn't mean Ishihara would be too. By that point, Ishihara didn't give a rat's ass if the institution would be in trouble. He simply wanted Sakuragi dead. Sakuragi's biggest mistake was to take pity on someone like Ishihara. |
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