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Apr 13, 11:52 PM
#1
Okay, I need to get this off my chest because I’ve been thinking about it all day. I was so hyped for the TBATE anime. I’ve been following the webtoon for years, and when they announced it was getting an anime, I actually thought this could be something special. But after watching the first two episodes… I’m just straight-up disappointed. And I know I’m not the only one. Everywhere I look—Reddit, YouTube comments, even here—people are saying the same thing. The animation looks cheap, the pacing is weird, the emotional beats fall flat. It honestly feels like they rushed it out without putting in the love this story deserves. It’s honestly sad because TBATE has so much potential. This could’ve been the next big thing. But instead, we got… whatever this is. There’s a petition going around to try and get the anime redone or at least passed to a studio that actually knows what it’s doing. If you’re as frustrated as I am, maybe take a sec to sign it: Petition link don’t know if it’ll change anything, but it’s worth a shot. If enough people speak up, maybe someone will listen. Anyway, just wanted to vent. Curious to hear your thoughts too—anyone actually happy with how it turned out so far? |
Apr 14, 1:29 AM
#2
Not like they'll care, unless the Japanese people start complaining, even though animation is fine for what this series is |
Apr 14, 2:53 AM
#3
Reply to Hazzardous2
Not like they'll care, unless the Japanese people start complaining, even though animation is fine for what this series is
@Hazzardous2 mmm while you speak some truth, I don't think it can be understated just how big the western market for anime has gotten in the past 5 years with streaming sites. In 2020 Sony bought Crunchyroll for $1.175 billion, for example and that's not including Netflix and others. Tbate especially, (I believe) has a huge market for Korean & Western readers since it's not a manga, therefore likely not advertised in JUMP, etc: It's a comic/manhwa. Turtleme, the author of the Tbate comic & light novel is Korean-American so hopefully he can work something out with whoever he sold the license to. Not sure what the specifics of the contract are but the anime definitely needs a revisit and from a reputable studio that can replicate the comics art style. I really do not want another Berserk 2016 situation. btw @SkMeena just signed, lets hope for more joiners ✌️ |
Apr 14, 5:07 AM
#4
Reply to greenyx
@Hazzardous2
mmm while you speak some truth, I don't think it can be understated just how big the western market for anime has gotten in the past 5 years with streaming sites. In 2020 Sony bought Crunchyroll for $1.175 billion, for example and that's not including Netflix and others.
Tbate especially, (I believe) has a huge market for Korean & Western readers since it's not a manga, therefore likely not advertised in JUMP, etc: It's a comic/manhwa.
Turtleme, the author of the Tbate comic & light novel is Korean-American so hopefully he can work something out with whoever he sold the license to. Not sure what the specifics of the contract are but the anime definitely needs a revisit and from a reputable studio that can replicate the comics art style.
I really do not want another Berserk 2016 situation.
btw @SkMeena just signed, lets hope for more joiners ✌️
mmm while you speak some truth, I don't think it can be understated just how big the western market for anime has gotten in the past 5 years with streaming sites. In 2020 Sony bought Crunchyroll for $1.175 billion, for example and that's not including Netflix and others.
Tbate especially, (I believe) has a huge market for Korean & Western readers since it's not a manga, therefore likely not advertised in JUMP, etc: It's a comic/manhwa.
Turtleme, the author of the Tbate comic & light novel is Korean-American so hopefully he can work something out with whoever he sold the license to. Not sure what the specifics of the contract are but the anime definitely needs a revisit and from a reputable studio that can replicate the comics art style.
I really do not want another Berserk 2016 situation.
btw @SkMeena just signed, lets hope for more joiners ✌️
@greenyx No offense, but TBATE is not so special that it'll get rebooted when the anime has only just started. Terrible adaptations of great materials have happened several times before. Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk (as you mentioned), The Promised Neverland, Classroom of the Elite. And TBATE isn't as popular as more prominent isekais like Re:ZERO, Tensura, Mushoku, or KonoSuba in Japan. It's wildly optimistic to think the Japanese are gonna listen to a bunch of foreigners who got angry because they didn't get the adaptation they deserve when TBATE isn't the first to get this treatment and certainly won't be the last. |
Gremlin Eris be like: |
Apr 14, 5:37 AM
#5
Reply to SgtRohn
@greenyx No offense, but TBATE is not so special that it'll get rebooted when the anime has only just started. Terrible adaptations of great materials have happened several times before. Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk (as you mentioned), The Promised Neverland, Classroom of the Elite. And TBATE isn't as popular as more prominent isekais like Re:ZERO, Tensura, Mushoku, or KonoSuba in Japan. It's wildly optimistic to think the Japanese are gonna listen to a bunch of foreigners who got angry because they didn't get the adaptation they deserve when TBATE isn't the first to get this treatment and certainly won't be the last.
@SgtRohn Agree. Let me gaslight myself bro 💔😭 |
Apr 14, 5:52 AM
#6
Imagine Western fans launching a petition to change an anime that's literally made for a Japanese audience 😂 |
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Apr 14, 6:21 AM
#8
Reply to Neterosan
Damn 32k? That's actually impressive
@Neterosan By the last episode we surely can gather 400k+ people on the petition |
Apr 14, 7:27 AM
#9
y'all are pathetic to think this petition would create a change for the anime. and SO I AM Already signed it this morning. I don't read the manhwa, but y'all deserved better tho. (but yeah, I doubt this would change anything. 10 years ago I signed a petition related to motorcycle racing with about 900k+ signatures, but it got denied—assuming the target already read the online petition) |
Apr 14, 8:48 AM
#10
it turns out that there are already that many. |
peaceful18Apr 14, 8:55 AM
Apr 14, 10:22 AM
#11
There’s no way this is getting a reboot or a season 2 with a new studio…I get that fans of the source material are disappointed but they need to get in line, there are much more deserving franchises that are way better and have been waiting for years and even decades for remakes and reboots. This anime adaption has destroyed any of the small amount of goodwill the novels and webcomic may have had and I just don’t see it happening regardless of how many petitions and crying twitter posts people make |
Apr 14, 10:58 AM
#12
Hazzardous2 said: Not like they'll care, unless the Japanese people start complaining, even though animation is fine for what this series is Nah bro I don't care if you think the series is bad, no series deserve to be treated like this |
Apr 14, 1:06 PM
#13
Reply to Hazzardous2
Not like they'll care, unless the Japanese people start complaining, even though animation is fine for what this series is
@Hazzardous2 How can a garbage animation be good for this series? |
Apr 14, 1:11 PM
#14
Reply to SgtRohn
@greenyx No offense, but TBATE is not so special that it'll get rebooted when the anime has only just started. Terrible adaptations of great materials have happened several times before. Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk (as you mentioned), The Promised Neverland, Classroom of the Elite. And TBATE isn't as popular as more prominent isekais like Re:ZERO, Tensura, Mushoku, or KonoSuba in Japan. It's wildly optimistic to think the Japanese are gonna listen to a bunch of foreigners who got angry because they didn't get the adaptation they deserve when TBATE isn't the first to get this treatment and certainly won't be the last.
@SgtRohn In fact many anime productions have done horrible jobs, but The begging after the end deserved better, in the productions you listed at least these had a 1 season that was engaging or entertaining like Tokyo ghoul, the promised neverland, classroom of the elite... even Berserk from the 90s wasn't that bad. TBATE instead isn't even getting that, its reputation is basically ruined |
Apr 14, 2:44 PM
#15
otakuclub94 said: It's not like the overseas audience doesn't matter or is not being heard, specially considering one of the producers is Crunchyroll (an American company) and another is bilibili (a Chinese company)Imagine Western fans launching a petition to change an anime that's literally made for a Japanese audience 😂 |
Apr 14, 4:56 PM
#16
MadanielFL said: otakuclub94 said: It's not like the overseas audience doesn't matter or is not being heard, specially considering one of the producers is Crunchyroll (an American company) and another is bilibili (a Chinese company)Imagine Western fans launching a petition to change an anime that's literally made for a Japanese audience 😂 Well, it's not like Crunchyroll is owned by Sony, right? |
Clueless reader's viewpoint |
Apr 14, 8:29 PM
#17
BlindSwordmaster said: Yes but they're still headquartered in the US.Well, it's not like Crunchyroll is owned by Sony, right? |
Apr 14, 10:18 PM
#18
Thankful I never heard of the show before the anime. it's a solid mid show and no salt whatsoever here. if the story is as good as people claim then hopefully it carries the PowerPoint presentation we are given |
Apr 14, 10:33 PM
#19
Reply to Leon888
@SgtRohn In fact many anime productions have done horrible jobs, but The begging after the end deserved better, in the productions you listed at least these had a 1 season that was engaging or entertaining like Tokyo ghoul, the promised neverland, classroom of the elite... even Berserk from the 90s wasn't that bad. TBATE instead isn't even getting that, its reputation is basically ruined
@Leon888 Sorry, but I don't see how TBATE is entitled to a better adaptation than the thousands other animes who get less than subpar adaptations of their source material. It isn't even that famous in Japan to begin with, otherwise they would've attracted other, more promising studios to adapt the source. Every production has money involved in them, no matter how shitty the final product might be. They're not gonna listen to a bunch of nobodies in the West who aren't satisfied with the adaptation when the anime is already airing. This petition is not gonna go anywhere. Unfortunate as it is, you all will have to learn to accept that. |
Gremlin Eris be like: |
Apr 15, 8:54 AM
#20
I dunno, sounds like a fitting adaptation for an isekai webtoon-slop no different from hundreds of others. |
Apr 15, 11:44 AM
#21
I'm just sad there's so many buthurt people complaining so it probably won't get a season 2. the animation is alright, it is limited motion, but it does not distract from the story unless you specifically look for reasons to be distracted from the story. limited motion has been used in anime since forever. anime has never been about best in class animation, it has been about a faithful telling of the story with decent, mid animation (hence animation is usually 12fps instead of 24fps like in the west) besides that, sometimes we also get awesome sakuga moments, and sometimes we get awesome sakuga entire anime or movies, but that's not the norm. the norm is just mid animation, with the most amazing stories in the world. that's the majority of naruto, and the majority of one piece if you actually stop & watch other anime made by A-Cat studio, you'll realise that the animation is alright, they do a pretty standard job for anime, and given the studio and the other anime they made in the past, there is obviously significant extra effort allocated to TBATE, and I'm greatful for that. I would enjoy it no problem if the entire story of TBATE were animated by A-Cat in this style. there is one more thing I would like to add, think about it. if we had the best, perfect anime right now, there would be no more room for a remake later down the line |
Apr 15, 11:51 AM
#22
Reply to lawleagle
I'm just sad there's so many buthurt people complaining so it probably won't get a season 2. the animation is alright, it is limited motion, but it does not distract from the story unless you specifically look for reasons to be distracted from the story. limited motion has been used in anime since forever. anime has never been about best in class animation, it has been about a faithful telling of the story with decent, mid animation (hence animation is usually 12fps instead of 24fps like in the west)
besides that, sometimes we also get awesome sakuga moments, and sometimes we get awesome sakuga entire anime or movies, but that's not the norm. the norm is just mid animation, with the most amazing stories in the world. that's the majority of naruto, and the majority of one piece
if you actually stop & watch other anime made by A-Cat studio, you'll realise that the animation is alright, they do a pretty standard job for anime, and given the studio and the other anime they made in the past, there is obviously significant extra effort allocated to TBATE, and I'm greatful for that. I would enjoy it no problem if the entire story of TBATE were animated by A-Cat in this style.
there is one more thing I would like to add, think about it. if we had the best, perfect anime right now, there would be no more room for a remake later down the line
besides that, sometimes we also get awesome sakuga moments, and sometimes we get awesome sakuga entire anime or movies, but that's not the norm. the norm is just mid animation, with the most amazing stories in the world. that's the majority of naruto, and the majority of one piece
if you actually stop & watch other anime made by A-Cat studio, you'll realise that the animation is alright, they do a pretty standard job for anime, and given the studio and the other anime they made in the past, there is obviously significant extra effort allocated to TBATE, and I'm greatful for that. I would enjoy it no problem if the entire story of TBATE were animated by A-Cat in this style.
there is one more thing I would like to add, think about it. if we had the best, perfect anime right now, there would be no more room for a remake later down the line
lawleagle said: I'm just sad there's so many buthurt people complaining so it probably won't get a season 2 So, you actually believe people complaining in English speaking forums have some kind of effect on what anime studios will make. |
Apr 15, 12:01 PM
#23
Reply to JoeChip
lawleagle said:
I'm just sad there's so many buthurt people complaining so it probably won't get a season 2
I'm just sad there's so many buthurt people complaining so it probably won't get a season 2
So, you actually believe people complaining in English speaking forums have some kind of effect on what anime studios will make.
@JoeChip that's a good point. but honestly, I do believe the voice of the public matters, even if sometimes we don't see the ripple effects |
Apr 18, 12:40 AM
#24
Can y'all shut up, please? |
cranky because your taste sucks, aren't you? |
Apr 18, 12:50 AM
#25
So did y'all watch the third episode or nah. They did do better, it's almost like a small studio needs to allot budget accordingly. Also if you think this is PowerPoint how did y'all view Way of the Househusband bc THAT IS POWERPOINT. Y'all bitches are so whiny and entitled. The creator is out here begging y'all to stop being brats and here y'all are, pissing in their face. Big yikes |
Apr 18, 9:39 AM
#26
They won’t cancel it and they won’t remake it This is the Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer of the year, |
Mattinator95Apr 18, 9:43 AM
Apr 18, 12:32 PM
#27
Reply to eboygamergirl
So did y'all watch the third episode or nah. They did do better, it's almost like a small studio needs to allot budget accordingly. Also if you think this is PowerPoint how did y'all view Way of the Househusband bc THAT IS POWERPOINT. Y'all bitches are so whiny and entitled. The creator is out here begging y'all to stop being brats and here y'all are, pissing in their face. Big yikes
eboygamergirl said: So did y'all watch the third episode or nah. They did do better Doing better than the last two episodes is doing nothing. That's like saying your kid is a genius because he got a E instead of a F one time. >it's almost like a small studio needs to allot budget accordingly. Shut up if you clearly don't understand what you're babbling about. A-CAT does not have any 2D animation staff, they are outsourcing everything they can while doing the bare mininum. |
Apr 20, 9:09 PM
#28
Reply to assignedgengar
Can y'all shut up, please?
@assignedgengar you are a clown 🤡 |
Yesterday, 8:02 AM
#30
to all y'all having temper tantrums in here, I just want y'all to know: the Japanese audiences have places this series in their top 10 lists on the platforms it is streaming on. BECAUSE the story is worth it and the animation really isn't that fucking bad. stop crying and slamming your fists on the floor because it's not solo leveling. because it's not fuckin solo leveling. y'all are children who clearly have never seen how series that involve any kind of power fantasy end up animated. most of the time? much worse! there's also several series with potentially better stories (at least, for example, when it comes to solo leveling in that they're not power fantasy RPG crawling essentially) that have gotten just shit adaptation, both animated and comic form. also, like. respect the creator for wanting a hand in their series? most anime adapt manga/manhwa/manhua and those? are more often than not a repacked retelling of a novel, often without much input from the original writer! at least, absolutely not as much as the novel had. I've read notes from LN where the author talks about how it's interesting the way the manga is going, and seeing their story in a different light. meaning, for those who are unable to exercise media literacy, that they aren't the one in charge! and if they aren't in charge of the comic, you can be sure they're not in command of the anime. tldr; the eastern world thinks the anime is good and it's really just Americans crying |
Yesterday, 8:16 AM
#31
Reply to eboygamergirl
to all y'all having temper tantrums in here, I just want y'all to know: the Japanese audiences have places this series in their top 10 lists on the platforms it is streaming on. BECAUSE the story is worth it and the animation really isn't that fucking bad.
stop crying and slamming your fists on the floor because it's not solo leveling.
because it's not fuckin solo leveling. y'all are children who clearly have never seen how series that involve any kind of power fantasy end up animated. most of the time? much worse! there's also several series with potentially better stories (at least, for example, when it comes to solo leveling in that they're not power fantasy RPG crawling essentially) that have gotten just shit adaptation, both animated and comic form.
also, like. respect the creator for wanting a hand in their series? most anime adapt manga/manhwa/manhua and those? are more often than not a repacked retelling of a novel, often without much input from the original writer! at least, absolutely not as much as the novel had. I've read notes from LN where the author talks about how it's interesting the way the manga is going, and seeing their story in a different light. meaning, for those who are unable to exercise media literacy, that they aren't the one in charge! and if they aren't in charge of the comic, you can be sure they're not in command of the anime.
tldr; the eastern world thinks the anime is good and it's really just Americans crying
stop crying and slamming your fists on the floor because it's not solo leveling.
because it's not fuckin solo leveling. y'all are children who clearly have never seen how series that involve any kind of power fantasy end up animated. most of the time? much worse! there's also several series with potentially better stories (at least, for example, when it comes to solo leveling in that they're not power fantasy RPG crawling essentially) that have gotten just shit adaptation, both animated and comic form.
also, like. respect the creator for wanting a hand in their series? most anime adapt manga/manhwa/manhua and those? are more often than not a repacked retelling of a novel, often without much input from the original writer! at least, absolutely not as much as the novel had. I've read notes from LN where the author talks about how it's interesting the way the manga is going, and seeing their story in a different light. meaning, for those who are unable to exercise media literacy, that they aren't the one in charge! and if they aren't in charge of the comic, you can be sure they're not in command of the anime.
tldr; the eastern world thinks the anime is good and it's really just Americans crying
eboygamergirl said: the Japanese audiences have places this series in their top 10 lists on the platforms it is streaming on. BECAUSE the story is worth it and the animation really isn't that fucking bad. Lmao, that isn't the reason. It's because the Japanese fandom just eats up most isekai fantasy stories for breakfast. Gamebiz.jp has daily rankings for different anime on the biggest japanese streaming services, and a lot of those absurdly basic isekai tend to rank high, even more than actually praised/popular series. It's performing well because it's not that much different from the shit they usually just take there, but that does not mean it's "objectively" not that bad or anything. |
Yesterday, 8:23 AM
#32
or maybe, just maybe, western fans have fucked up expectations to the point where if it doesn't look how they want, they call it shit. like. idk. western fans are fucking spoiled and it shows? it's why so many series slip through the cracks or never get sent overseas bc the people deciding what we get know the audience is a bunch of picky children |
Today, 5:13 AM
#34
Reply to bastek66
Stop being such a bitch

@bastek66 You. First. eboygamergirl said: o did y'all watch the third episode or nah. They did do better, it's almost like a small studio needs to allot budget accordingly. Also if you think this is PowerPoint how did y'all view Way of the Househusband bc THAT IS POWERPOINT. Y'all bitches are so whiny and entitled. The creator is out here begging y'all to stop being brats and here y'all are, pissing in their face. Big yikes People have the right to express their disappointment. And encourage change. That's especially important because we can't exactly vote with our money since many get their anime via streaming that offers a vast library of shows. So we can't show our distaste in a specific show by not paying for it. Though there is merch, manga related to the anime, and blu-rays one could boycott. Plus the streaming services probably look at the amount of views and likes/dislikes that a show's videos get. At what point do you think people are allowed to complain? Maybe your threshold is just lower than what it is for people of this show. Also, the biggest whiners in this thread are the ones whining about whining (including you). The petition is at over 50,000 at the time of this writing, by the way. Good for them. |
Today, 6:28 AM
#35
uuuuno said: You. First I'm not the one who cries over shitty cartoon. |
6 hours ago
#36
Reply to eboygamergirl
or maybe, just maybe, western fans have fucked up expectations to the point where if it doesn't look how they want, they call it shit. like. idk. western fans are fucking spoiled and it shows? it's why so many series slip through the cracks or never get sent overseas bc the people deciding what we get know the audience is a bunch of picky children
@eboygamergirl Most ignorant comment I've ever read, this series is basically shitty animation, but it's the western fans who are spoiled... people shouldn't have the right to speak if they can only say bullshit 😂 |
6 hours ago
#38
Reply to SgtRohn
@Leon888 Sorry, but I don't see how TBATE is entitled to a better adaptation than the thousands other animes who get less than subpar adaptations of their source material. It isn't even that famous in Japan to begin with, otherwise they would've attracted other, more promising studios to adapt the source.
Every production has money involved in them, no matter how shitty the final product might be. They're not gonna listen to a bunch of nobodies in the West who aren't satisfied with the adaptation when the anime is already airing. This petition is not gonna go anywhere. Unfortunate as it is, you all will have to learn to accept that.
Every production has money involved in them, no matter how shitty the final product might be. They're not gonna listen to a bunch of nobodies in the West who aren't satisfied with the adaptation when the anime is already airing. This petition is not gonna go anywhere. Unfortunate as it is, you all will have to learn to accept that.
@SgtRohn But what kind of reasoning is this? Obviously many products deserve a proper adaptation, but that doesn't mean that "tbate" doesn't deserve it, and if they were going to do it like shit then they shouldn't have done it in the first place then |
6 hours ago
#39
Reply to eboygamergirl
@leon888 cool story go touch grass I don't trust the opinion of idiots who like snk
@eboygamergirl Oh sure we should trust what you say instead hahahahahaha |
6 hours ago
#40
bruh go huff your Nazi propaganda and get off my dick *shrug* |
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