Ao no Exorcist: Yosuga-hen Episode 8 Discussion

Yuri really is a terrible exorcist because what do you mean you're fighting to let Satan's children, which canonically means the antichrist, live?

The way that the Paladin was treating Yukio as a LITERAL INFANT made me physically gasp out loud - man was brutal!

baby rin killing everyone while yuri is giving birth really gave me chills

Yuri really is a terrible exorcist because what do you mean you're fighting to let Satan's children, which canonically means the antichrist, live?

@notthatjesus that's something I honestly never understood from Blue Exorcist. I know it's not related to Christianity as how we westerners/Christians see it, but rather how (ignorant) Japanese people see it, but still, they are using clear references to Christianity, from crosses, to traditional dresses to the Vatican itself. I'm really biased on this matter because I'm a very religious catholic and I live literally in Rome very close to the Vatican City and Holy See itself, but man, I really dislike the fact that what is being presented as the truth is that Christian exorcists are actually evil men, the Vatican is as evil as the Illuminati and Satan, who is the personification of Evil incarnate to us Christians, is actually the good guy in the story. Satan has 0 redeemable qualities, but here he is capable of loving another human. What I found worse than anything though is how the author decided to make a woman fall in love with Satan himself and not seeing how giving birth to his son (who is actually the antichrist to us Christians who actually know who Satan is) is actually a world threatening tragedy. Like :/. Japanese should stick to their religions if they don't understand Christianity.

@Clannadstan I mean, I think that there's some points that you're missing here, my friend. First of all, I'm also a convinced orthodox. Of course, I sometimes complain about the way our beautiful religion is portrayed in manga. The one that immediately springs to mind is DRCL, where there's blatant blasphemy in a chapel. So I completely understand your frustration.

However, I don't think most viewers watch Blue Exorcist for its religious aspect. The world it depicts is above all fantastic and deliberately exaggerated. What's more, the list of ‘villains’ you mention stems more from a misinterpretation of the film than from any real intention to harm Christianity.

The Order of the True Cross in no way represents authentic Christianity, still less Our Lord Jesus Christ. If we were to transpose it to our reality, it would be more akin to the Inquisition or any other organisation that has used the name of Christ for purposes contrary to his teachings.



As far as Satan is concerned, I don't entirely share your point of view. Maybe it's a question of interpretation, but if you look closely, this character has never felt affection for anyone except Yuri. His attachment to her is explained as soon as Rinka appears. This character, and even more so now, is shown as a repulsive, heartless, treacherous being who thinks only of his own pleasure. Like Mephisto or Lucifer. Neither of them has any good intentions. As for Yuri's supposed love for Satan, it seems to me that it's more a question of possession. Like so many others before her, she was deceived and manipulated by the Evil One. Her true love was Shiro.

Finally, as far as Rin is concerned, although her image may evoke the Antichrist for us, the author's approach is quite different. She has chosen to make him the son of the most abominable being in order to show that we are not defined by our origins or condemned by the actions of our parents. We can all break our chains and choose our own path.

In the end, to better understand this work, we would have to ask the author herself about her intentions. In any case, may the Lord bless you and your family, my brother in Christ. I remain open to discussion, so don't hesitate to respond.

@Kumoiro_Shizuki Good evening brother, I'm sorry for taking so long to answer. Work has been rough on me lately, I can't even sleep proprerly sadly, but let's get into the response ^^:

first of all: I made the giant mistake of checking what was that DCRL scene you were talking about. I find it disgusting not for the act but because Sakamoto, who I actually used to respect, had the audacity of making that happen in a chapel. I don't think that he was being a satanist or something like that, I think that he is a japanese/pagan ignorant who does not respect our religion. People who have not grown up with Christianity can not understand how absymal that was. I get it, you are not Christian but have some respect for those who identify as Christians.

That's one of the moments when I think of myself that Japanese people should stick to their tribal religions and not be allowed to speak of our religion, because it shows how ignorant and disrespectful they can be. Funnily though, just 2 days ago I was able to watch a movie called Kimi no Iro. I wrote a review about it, basically it has a deep christian foundation and i love it. Three guys use an abandoned church to practice their rock band. You shhould check that out. It made me cry so much lol. Stunning work of art. Probably the only japanese medium that depicts our religion without their stupid pagan bias.

About Blue Exorcist: I understand all your points and actually agree. But I still feel like the author decied to corrupt some aspects: the Devil's names are actually those of real demonic beings. Gehenna is actually present in the Bible, I remember reading about it in Reveletions, it is the place of eternal damnation where souls of the people whose name wasn't written in the Book of Life get thrown in Judgment Day. I still feel like using Christian lore but allowing bhuddist monks to see devils and stuff like that is pretty messed up.

I like your stances on Satan and Rin, I don't agree on Yuri's though. I know it was meant to birth Rin and start the story, but no matter what, no matter if you call it Rinka or any other name: once you understand that that being is literally the most evil being of all time, you don't go there and copulate with him. I can agree and understand what you mean on "controlling Satan" but I feel like Yuri legit loves him... and she loves her sons. I can understan they are her sons, a mother loves her sons always. But they are SATAN' sons too... I like your opinion on Rin, I really respect that and like that view.

God bless you and your loved ones dear orthobro ^^