| I love how this is a "I still like it but man....I dunno if I can get through this dumb shit" -Moment, when compared with most Anime, this is a pretty realistic/down to earth moment xD Maybe....look for something more your speed. You're an intellectual. Someone who enjoys Mushishi and Apothecary Diaries. This just might be a little too low-brow for you to enjoy, Im thinking^^ |
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| It’s an anime, not reality, so comparing to realistic circumstances does not make sense. She is even running around, jumping, and fighting after her surgery (if she really had it as you say). She did it on purpose, instead of giving up her virginity and becoming a prostitute, she decided to sell her kidney to shut the guy up, with explaining that she used her body to make him money, it is shocking and surprising to the man. I don’t know the regular price of what you can sell your kidney for on the black market, but I really don’t think she cared either, she was just trying to one up that idiot with the stunt. Plus if she needed a new kidney, I’m sure the yakuza could get her one no problem. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
the_great_prince said: I really still can't get over her selling her kidney. At first, I assumed, like many others, that she was bluffing and actually got the money from somewhere else. But episode 2 confirms that she truly did sell her kidney. I just have to ask, why? Was she really in that desperate of a situation that she needed to sell it? I get that she was told to stay and mess with Kirishima, but I feel like she should have had better options before selling her kidney, like asking her family for some cash or just deciding to go home after all. In the first place, I don't completely understand why she had to give him money anyway. I know he asked her to make some, but was she really under any obligation to? Didn't they already agree to take care of her? I guess they took that back? I get that its just a show, but selling your kidney isn't something that can be done so casually or easily. Her health will be at greater risk for the rest of her life, and because of this, she might end up in a situation down the line where she would need a kidney transplant. In the worse case scenario, she could even die because of this. I feel like we needed to see greater financial desperation from her to make this choice believable. From what I understand, her character isn't supposed to be stupid, but selling your kidney for quick cash when you have other options is a definitely stupid choice. Also, did she really only get 4 million yen for it? I feel like she could have gotten more than that. I guess I'm still enjoying the show for now, but every time I think back to the kidney thing I think, "Man, that was dumb of her." wait till you hear about people selling their kidneys irl, just so they can buy the latest Iphone. |
| I always felt like this situation with the kidney was to make a stance of her position in her relationship with Kirishima, he was treating her like she was some kind of fragile girl, that wouldn't be able to stand up against him, and would just give up and run, but instead she did exactly what he wanted her to do: sell her own body, just not in the way he was thinking. Let's not forget he suggested of using her as a prostitute to earn him so money, so with this action she clearly showed that she isn't afraid of him, and that he might be crazy, but she also as crazy, to the point of selling her own kidney. As to health issues related to the surgery, people live with only one kidney everyday. There are a lot of healthy people with only 1 functional kidney, and they don't even know (many times, it's because, for some reason, one of the kidneys wasn't properly developed during their intrauterine time), and that 1 kidney is completely able to do the job that the 2 kidneys should be doing. Obviously it's not ideal, because only having one kidneys means it's more probable for you to have no kidney function due to some problem that might happen, and if it affects that one kidney, there isn't a "spare" for that one. |
| I am having the exact same questions like OP!! The whole kidney thing came out of nowhere and is absolutely overkill no matter what her reason for doing it might have been. Add to that that we don't actually get a proper explanation as to why she did it to begin with and it makes the entire things confusing and seemingly unecessary! Part of me hopes that the kidney thing will have some more important meaning down the line or maybe even lead to a plot twist of sorts, but I highly doubt that will happen... |
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Tank895 said: ejleon said: It’s an anime, not reality, so comparing to realistic circumstances does not make sense. She is even running around, jumping, and fighting after her surgery (if she really had it as you say). She did it on purpose, instead of giving up her virginity and becoming a prostitute, she decided to sell her kidney to shut the guy up, with explaining that she used her body to make him money, it is shocking and surprising to the man. I don’t know the regular price of what you can sell your kidney for on the black market, but I really don’t think she cared either, she was just trying to one up that idiot with the stunt. Plus if she needed a new kidney, I’m sure the yakuza could get her one no problem. Basically this plus she kind had to put on her Yakuza face and put him in is place. Up until then she is being shown as a nice normal girl who happened to be born into a Yakuza family. Then she shows up with a bag full of money and proved she’s just as gangster as everyone else and not to be taken lightly or messed with. Thanks for the support and I agree with your point as well. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| I feel the same way. I've been liking the anime so far, but the only thing holding me back from getting really excited about it is that we don't know clearly what is going on in Yoshino's head. Based on her reaction to him 'falling in love', it seems to me that she just got frustrated and made that scene as a big middle finger to Kirishima whilst giving him money as compensation for 1 year so he can't complain. I didn't get the feeling that she was thinking of her grandpa's advice and intended to win him over. If anything, the kidney part was kinda the opposite of what he said his dream girl to be (the self-centered, spoiled, demanding type). To my understanding, Yoshino is still just a normal girl who has loosened up a bit due to her situation so she gives less fks then she did before. In a way, perhaps this is more realistic and the build up to the point where we clearly see where this story is going will be that much better to compensate for what we have now. While watching I've felt just as clueless as Yoshino, but the one thing we can have confidence in is her resilience and determination, so I'm still very much looking forward to what we will be getting. |
Reply to Safuan12616
She didn't sold her kidney.
@Safuan12616  I mean unless this is a mis-translation or there's something I'm not understanding this line makes it pretty clear that she sold her kidney. The only other explanation for her saying this would be if she received a kidney from someone else. |
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the_great_prince said:
I really still can't get over her selling her kidney. At first, I assumed, like many others, that she was bluffing and actually got the money from somewhere else. But episode 2 confirms that she truly did sell her kidney. I just have to ask, why? Was she really in that desperate of a situation that she needed to sell it? I get that she was told to stay and mess with Kirishima, but I feel like she should have had better options before selling her kidney, like asking her family for some cash or just deciding to go home after all. In the first place, I don't completely understand why she had to give him money anyway. I know he asked her to make some, but was she really under any obligation to? Didn't they already agree to take care of her? I guess they took that back?
I get that its just a show, but selling your kidney isn't something that can be done so casually or easily. Her health will be at greater risk for the rest of her life, and because of this, she might end up in a situation down the line where she would need a kidney transplant. In the worse case scenario, she could even die because of this. I feel like we needed to see greater financial desperation from her to make this choice believable. From what I understand, her character isn't supposed to be stupid, but selling your kidney for quick cash when you have other options is a definitely stupid choice. Also, did she really only get 4 million yen for it? I feel like she could have gotten more than that.
I guess I'm still enjoying the show for now, but every time I think back to the kidney thing I think, "Man, that was dumb of her."
I really still can't get over her selling her kidney. At first, I assumed, like many others, that she was bluffing and actually got the money from somewhere else. But episode 2 confirms that she truly did sell her kidney. I just have to ask, why? Was she really in that desperate of a situation that she needed to sell it? I get that she was told to stay and mess with Kirishima, but I feel like she should have had better options before selling her kidney, like asking her family for some cash or just deciding to go home after all. In the first place, I don't completely understand why she had to give him money anyway. I know he asked her to make some, but was she really under any obligation to? Didn't they already agree to take care of her? I guess they took that back?
I get that its just a show, but selling your kidney isn't something that can be done so casually or easily. Her health will be at greater risk for the rest of her life, and because of this, she might end up in a situation down the line where she would need a kidney transplant. In the worse case scenario, she could even die because of this. I feel like we needed to see greater financial desperation from her to make this choice believable. From what I understand, her character isn't supposed to be stupid, but selling your kidney for quick cash when you have other options is a definitely stupid choice. Also, did she really only get 4 million yen for it? I feel like she could have gotten more than that.
I guess I'm still enjoying the show for now, but every time I think back to the kidney thing I think, "Man, that was dumb of her."
To not spoil much the truth behind this is talked about later in the series. Iirc it should be animated but it’s been a while since I’ve read the specific chapter it happened on.
| @DoctorBryce Yeah, but if she didn't actually do it, then doesn't the scene in ep 2 completely contradict that? |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
the_great_prince said: @Merve2Love I don't know, I think is precisely because this show is semi-realistic that when they throw in something that seems unrealistic it feels more jarring, compared to shows that are completely unrealistic from the start, so I don't question them. Unrealistic from a very privileged and probably not very difficult or troubled, western life -point of view, mind you ;) But yeah....Regardless. Im not even comparing it with actual Real life. Im comparing it with other stuff that happens in similar Anime. And I stand by it: This isn't a crazy/dumb scene, imo^^ |
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I assume you're getting that from the manga? |
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@Safuan12616
I mean unless this is a mis-translation or there's something I'm not understanding this line makes it pretty clear that she sold her kidney. The only other explanation for her saying this would be if she received a kidney from someone else.
I mean unless this is a mis-translation or there's something I'm not understanding this line makes it pretty clear that she sold her kidney. The only other explanation for her saying this would be if she received a kidney from someone else.
| @the_great_prince I don't know any plot beyond this point, but this specifically isn't a mis-translation. She says: くそ！こっちは腎臓とった傷塞がったばっかなんだよ。 "the cut(wound) from my liver being taken has just only closed up". It cannot be interpreted as being given a transplant. Back to the OP, I have no idea why it is even necessary to give somebody 4mil yen to "show that you are tough". If anything it gives the opposite impression that you can be goaded into anything and easily milked. But maybe that's some yakuza common sense. |
| To be honest, that was my exact same reaction when I first read the manga which starts quite badly with Yoshino doing what she did at the end of the 1st episode but you will find out more about selling the kidney aspects that weren't revealed yet, they get revealed later on in the story. So for now just know that it's not as simple as it's said in the 1st episode and the reveal will make you less upset about the whole kidney situation. |
| And here I am, thinking it's great dark comedy. That was the moment I thought; yeah, maybe this will be watched. |
| Maybe it's set up for her to be shot there in future and survive thanks to lack of kidney there. |
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| Just watch episode 5 and everything will make sense. |
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| as a manga reader: y'all get hung up on the weirdest shit, imagine now people irl selling their kidneys for rent, dept or the likes (spoiler: people irl do that as well) |
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@weebtoge I've seen episode 5 but I don't think it changes my point at all. It was not understandable why she would sell her kidney, and why she would go that far just to "get back" at Kirishima. Such an action only harms her and benefits Kirishima and does nothing to "get back" at him. Episode 5
| @the_great_prince You seem to have misunderstood the context. It was a matter of pride, and she has stated that she would die for the sake of it. Whether or not that mindset is logical, her actions were logically consistent given said mindset. Also, all these mf are crazy in the series. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
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