Terminator 0 Episode 8 Discussion

Pantheon did it better but they did nail the landing!
But who are the kids mom?

Just a regular human Malcolm fell in love with. It was shown she died in a car accident while shielding the daughter (bus accident).

Hmm, I think this was still a good show. Didn't like the end-end though. Kokoro decided to try to coexists with humans and she's fighting Skynet while protecting surviving humans. Why did the gang decide to go into hiding anyways??? Hiding from humans and robots? Is Kokoro going to explain shit to humans or continue being their overlord???

Eldest son turns out to be the one who sent the terminator in the past to destroy Kokoro. Wtf? Kokoro became bigger threat than Skynet or something? How do you justify that?



It's always baffling how dumb AI is when making excuses to why humans should be exterminated. Usually the focus is on all the dumb shit we've done. Hello? What about all the good shit humans made?!
Sure, you can say humans love wars and we tend to destroy each other and the planet, but we also tend to self-sacrifice for others and do the unthinkable for the sake of those we love. Humans aren't so simple. Human unpredictability is what makes us special. Sure, AI may be right that humans are destined to kill each other eventually, but it's ALSO possible that we won't. I mean, we already had chances to kill each other during the cold war, but turns out both sides wanted to stay alive after all. Pretending that our wrongs outweigh our cons is stupid, unfair and shows BIAS from the AI.

It's like how reviews of restaurants are usually made, for instance. People who enjoy "restaurant A" are likely to NOT rate said restaurant 5/5 or live a positive review. BUT if a person didn't like ANYTHING in said restaurant, there's a BIG chance that they'll go out of their way to leave a NEGATIVE review and/or rate it 1-2/5.

Same with MAL. People tend to upvote negative reviews on shows more than they do with positive reviews. This leaves the impression that a highly rated show is overhyped garbage, when in reality people who liked the show don't usually give a shit about reading why someone else liked it too. Humans love to bitch about things they don't like while taking good shit for granted and without appreciation. Same with AI logic. AI tends to focus on negatives while pretending positives don't exist, hence massacre is justified.

@Sigmar-Unberogen I guess because they showed so little of the wife she might be from the future also.

@alpo42ab I don't think so. Malcolm time-travelled to the past together with Misaki, and then met a random woman who he fell in love with and had 3 kids. Don't think she has to be time-traveller too. Just a random woman who likely knew nothing about Malcolm's past.

that was a fucking awful wokefest. I knew it was going to be this way, but I was hoping it'd be worthwhile in the end.

that was a fucking awful wokefest. I knew it was going to be this way, but I was hoping it'd be worthwhile in the end.

@nyugvo6 You know woke is not DEI as an african american its just another example on being degraded by this culture.
How would you had them play it out? The whole humans are inferior is an old metric anyway.

@alpo42ab I never even said anything about DEI.
"How would you had them play it out?" this scene?
they keep talking until gods and "misaki" comes up, and the robot says it wants that as a name, since it corresponds the guy's expectations.
I also had a huge problem with malcolm saying he killed his comrades for her, instead for the sake of survival, future, or anything similar.

@Marloges it's nonsense though if you think for a second. you're probably aware of it too since you have a mgs avatar.

Incredible finale. I honestly haven’t this locked in to a show like in terms of binging in a very long time, took me back to early Covid days. Without a doubt the best piece of terminator media we’ve had since T2, it’s well clear of salvation.

The first few episodes really had me thinking it was just T2 and T1 mashed together, but the Japanese version. Malcolm looks just like the dude that Arnold and Sarah are trying to protect in T2, resistance fighter from the future etc etc. But I like how we ended up focusing on the philosophical aspect of man and machine, rather than the usual save the world stuff, we get asked if the world is even worth saving.

Ngl when Kokoro was asking Malcolm all that stuff about what humanity has actually given the world instead of just taken from it, I couldn’t come up with an answer either. Some really interesting ideological questions were posed for sure.

So many twists in this last episode I had my jaw on the floor. Malcolm coming from the future was a wtf, Misaki I had a feeling was a robot anyway from the first episode, so that wasn’t too much of a shock but what was shocking was her relationship with Malcolm in the OG timeline and how she was the basis for Kokoro. She was best girl tho and I’d absolutely take out my own unit to protect her.

Eiko being Malcolm’s mother tho wtf?? Kenta brokering a peace deal between skynet and sending the terminator back was probably the biggest shock for me. But it does line up with his character throughout the show who was always skeptical of Misaki and the machines.. just a lot of WTF twists and multiple timelines, I really hope they do more with terminator in this universe because there’s a lot of cool possibilities. We also don’t know what Kokoro will get up to now!

Hate that Malcolm had to go out like that, but i guess it was necessary to give Kokoro the right answer in the end.. just really enjoyed this one, well done production IG.

that was a fucking awful wokefest. I knew it was going to be this way, but I was hoping it'd be worthwhile in the end.

Let me get this straight:
The soldier from 2022 time travelled back to alternative 1997 and met her husband she will marry in 2025 (who's now the kid of her son).
The soldier's son (who was born in 2025) time travelled back in time from 2040 to an alternative 1983, fucked a random civilian woman from that period, giving birth to the soldier's husband (who's also his father in 2025).

That means the soldier fucked her grandson, and he fucked his grandma.

@Deago No in the future when she gives her thumbs-up, she is with her son, not with her grandson. We don't know who she met that became the father of Malcolm. I also had a moment of confusion and I had to replay the scene, as both boys look very much alike and are tech nerds.

that was a fucking awful wokefest. I knew it was going to be this way, but I was hoping it'd be worthwhile in the end.