The Executioner and Her Way of Life
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Jun 3, 2022 8:58 AM
#1
Menou has guts, facing whatever stands in her way. Episode definitely had its 'wtf' moment but I'm not surprised how dark sometimes the show can be. If anything, I'm impressed by how fearless Menou is in this arc. Head literally rolled....damn. Shit hit through the roof. |
Jun 3, 2022 9:45 AM
#2
Now that was an episode. And boy Akari and Takemichi are a disgrace to time travel users. Did that shit really wait while Manon was conjuring something with blood? The action sequences and the smears looked real good. This show lacks in character animation to sell the tension between the characters and the dialogues but this was the best episode for me. Lol pandemonium was creepy and funny. The battle with Manon and Menou was short but a good one, I love how the shot of illusion looked unnatural and not perfect coz she had said she doesn't have complete over it. |
RepletteJun 3, 2022 10:00 AM
Jun 3, 2022 9:46 AM
#3
Oh, my. Definitely the freakiest episode so far. Poor Manon. The flashback of her childhood was pretty horrible. Now I can understand her a little better. Well, R.I.P. :( Pandemonium has such a hilarious personality, heh. That rolling head was creepy. |
SerafosJun 25, 2024 6:10 AM
Jun 3, 2022 9:54 AM
#4
The true Menou has shown her true colours against Manon Libelle, and as held true, Manon also knows of Menou more than just the Pandemonium alone. The daughter of a Lost One (unlike Otherworlders being Isekai-ed), she was the start of the Fourth's indictment while losing her memories more with each passing day. And the Executioner Flare's cold murder silenced her mother and their dangerous Pure Concept power that's liable for death, that's a given. So Manon, not inherited of a Pure Concept, tried the reverse way into getting the same power (or stronger) through monstrine, and the Fourth was just a way to let loose of her real powers to inherit taboo from a pure, untainted soul. Menou being able to save Akari in the nick of time, decides to face Manon herself, and this is the fight to end all fights between Executioner and villain. And truth be told, this show LOVES to get "Darker Than Black", and I am deeply enthralled at the amount of blood and gore this has to not be afraid to show its dark moments. The Pure Concept, Human Error immortal birthed within Manon, and Menou doesn't drop her guard to do her job given her strange, friendly demeanor, shapen into 1001 demons... This episode is the epitome of a B-movie film, literally head-rolling Pandemonium, Chaos akin to The Conjuring. AND I UNIRONICALLY LOVE IT. |
Jun 3, 2022 10:02 AM
#5
Shokei shoujo fridays! What a fucking episode man. No wonder Manon is so messed up. Seeing your mother killed right in front of you so mercilessly and to top it all of, she’s basically been told her whole life she’s too worthless to live and was too worthless to even die when flare killed her mom. But what a reveal for pandemonium. That whole sequence was genuinely terrifying. Manon was into some shit she had no business being into, this could be a global threat if even an ancient hero couldn’t deal with her. Also, Manon mentioned her mom wasn’t summoned but followed the stars. If that’s the case, could this world be a legitimate location like wonder woman’s island or something? crazy worldbuilding. Can’t wait for next week. Also just realised I apparently have volume one of the books for over a year but forgot I owned it Lmaoo so starting later today |
Marinate1016Jun 3, 2022 10:16 AM
Jun 3, 2022 10:30 AM
#6
finally a good episode. This girl could make a really good guro doujin. |
Jun 3, 2022 10:59 AM
#7
This episode was actually pretty good it actually looks like they saved all the budget for that fight. |
Jun 3, 2022 11:03 AM
#8
I'm here just to say one thing, " I really like how the anime produces amazing scenes with the appearance of the pandemonium character " |
Jun 3, 2022 11:13 AM
#9
That was grotesque sheesh! This is the edgiest anime so far this year, that ability was freaky. When she turned her head I swear I lost my eyes. I can't wait for the battle, Menou had better be ready for that freak show. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove |
Jun 3, 2022 11:28 AM
#10
Its Pandemonium again and again |
Jun 3, 2022 12:06 PM
#11
After a couple of rather weaker episodes i feel hype again. I was wondering where the gore scenes are as LN readers were mentioning it in this arc. Pandaemonium gives some final boss vibes. So there IS a possibility for Lost Ones to get into their world on their own without any summoning ritual, nice that defo cleared out some things. Mentioning of the Ivory hero made me feel like the history of the Lost Ones is a way richer then it seemed to be at first. Sad that we get only 2 more episodes. |
Jun 3, 2022 2:27 PM
#12
So bullshit. That Manon's mother could be normal and not use her Pure Concept for that long (without a larger association observing her) should already be a clear sign that it's possible to keep some Lost Ones safe if they tried, without killing them. Faust still decided to murder her, which also might've caused the creation of Pandemonium. Was it because the Fourth wanted to use her and that might've proved dangerous? Clearly they weren't that crazy as to disobey the Count, if what the old council member said was true and Manon forced them to do bad things as an organization. They might've pressured her, but it was all because Faust killer her mother to begin with and left them be. Why didn't Flare apprehend the rest of them? How else would've they found out about her if not because someone inside snitched her out? If there was any suspicion, then wouldn't have Faust just arrested all of them, including the Count and Manon? Explain things, rehabilitate them, etc.They just leave all of them be. So stupid. The short amount of action between Menou and Manon was cool, but the sudden end of it was a bit awkward. I imagined that even a small hint of a Pure Concept would've overpowered her, but Manon was done in a tad too quickly. I think some of the gore could've been toned down with all that Pandemonium stuff, it got heavy-handed pretty fast. Specifically when the girl twisted her head off, which 'killed' her, but then the summoned creatures consumed her anyway and she came out of the mouth of one of them. It was unnecessary to end that on the edge-factor imo. I'm interested to know who this Ivory Hero was, but I'm more interested in knowing how they'll deal with Pandemonium next episode. |
daft_marinerJun 3, 2022 2:42 PM
Jun 3, 2022 4:47 PM
#13
Akari gets some answers as for why Manon is doing all of this and we got her backstory, as she was a Lost One's child and after spending some years on that worls Manon's mother got killed by Flare, and basically tells Manon that she isn't worth to kill since she isn't taboo, a low punch towards Manon, specially because the people around her considered her a failure due to not having something of her mother's Pure Concept. After Manon gets a new power she immediatly attack Akari, but nothing to worry about since Menou comes to the rescue! She saves Akari and tells her to go away, also cute how this Akari was crying after seeing Menou, and instead of the current Akari the Akari with her memories actually do what Menou tells her to do. I really liked how Menou vs Manon was animated, it was pretty well done, Menou's acrobatics during the fight looked clean. I felt the battle was a little short, but maybe because it feels longer in the novel due to it being read. After Menou blows away Manon's arm resulting in her victory we get a little cute scene of an arm coming out of Manon's chest! I though that was going to be more censored, it's good that they weren't scared of showing the arm and the blood coming out. And we get revealed that the little girl from before was summoned by Manon's sacrifice. After introducing herself the girl gets immediatly killed by Menou, however that isn't all since she revives herself after coming out of her own body. I'm actually happy about something, since they skipped the prologue of the volume 2 of the novel the thing of the little girl being Pandemonium came out even more as a surprise, one of those weird instances where I'm happy something got cut for a better impact later. This little girl, Pandemonium, make her neck spin again and again until her head came out and a bunch of blood started coming out and from there a bunch of monsters came out and eat Pandemonium just for her to come out of one of the monsters, isn't this beautiful? Heh.And we are left out just before the battle between Menou and one of the Four Human Errors, Pandemonium. I have to say something, that last part of the episode was full of 7 words: E S S E N C E I know this is a Spanish Dragon Ball joke, but I had to say it here, literally bathing in another person's blood and eating other people, Tablos would be proud. |
Jun 3, 2022 5:03 PM
#14
this is the best episode so far with a good reveal and a real cliffhanger, but it's the least talked about episode so far. I don't have faith in the otakus anymore. |
"The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." |
Jun 3, 2022 5:17 PM
#15
daft_mariner said: So bullshit. That Manon's mother could be normal and not use her Pure Concept for that long (without a larger association observing her) should already be a clear sign that it's possible to keep some Lost Ones safe if they tried, without killing them. Faust still decided to murder her, which also might've caused the creation of Pandemonium. Was it because the Fourth wanted to use her and that might've proved dangerous? Clearly they weren't that crazy as to disobey the Count, if what the old council member said was true and Manon forced them to do bad things as an organization. They might've pressured her, but it was all because Faust killer her mother to begin with and left them be. Why didn't Flare apprehend the rest of them? How else would've they found out about her if not because someone inside snitched her out? If there was any suspicion, then wouldn't have Faust just arrested all of them, including the Count and Manon? Explain things, rehabilitate them, etc.They just leave all of them be. So stupid. I think you should look at Lost Ones like they are nukes. That's essentially what they are. Illegal nukes. The Fourth is an organization that is essentially trying to disrupt the current order (they are the "fourth power") and they got in possession of a living nuke. You don't rehabilitate a nuke. You disarm it. Lost Ones are too dangerous. They kill them all once found because they can raze an entire region if left to their own devices and have done so four time already. Yes Manon's mom was harmless as it is. But what if the Count died early and the rest of the board decided to force her to use her power for their goal ? They could even take her daughter hostage if they wanted too. They aren't good natured individuals. What if Manon ended up in a dangerous situation and the mom had to use her power to protect her ? It's simply too much risk to let Lost One alive, it's the conclusion they reached after four devastating, world-changing events. It's merciless and can be seen as cruel, but it's necessary. |
Jun 3, 2022 5:55 PM
#16
Man idk what really happen that ep but it was cool lol |
Jun 3, 2022 6:20 PM
#17
@daft_mariner manon's mom could be the next pandemonium, just saying also pandemonium is at least a thousands years old, its likely even older than even the church itself also thx to pandemonium demons, monsters, dark lords etc exist in the world. its the equivalent of bringing dinosaurs back to 21th century lol there will be chaos everywhere as expected of pandemonium, the pure concept of chaos btw we have already seen Ivory, in the first episode. it was archbishop orwell who summoned her, forced her to be the hero and then killed her after she did her "job" pandemonium isnt joking when she says everyone forgets Ivory, did she just break the 4th wall? I think she knows people only remember mitsuki, the tragic self insert character who got killed by menou in the first episode lol |
Jun 3, 2022 6:26 PM
#18
@Strykeryno we have already seen Ivory, I wonder if you also forgot about her I feel like...pandemonium can read our mind lol hopefully she's gonna be fine, she's such an interesting soul. we all know most of villains always get defeated and killed.... |
Lab_Rat_0978Jun 3, 2022 6:34 PM
Jun 3, 2022 6:30 PM
#19
Coolest episode so far, Manon was a really sad, tragic character in the end, a victim of the world's shittiness twisted into serving an abomination. It was also rather sad when she said Menou didn't really have to do this - she doesn't have to be a murderer if she doesn't like doing it, and Menou just brushes that aside and declares it as her only purpose in life. though it was absolute easy to see coming that the girl was Pandemonium all along, what with the wall of fog literally being right there, and Akari in the boat noticing the first major divergence out there. Plus the girl willingly going into the iron maiden. It also just makes intuitive sense that one of the Human Errors can resist Akari's Pure Concept. After all, as inherently powerful as it is, it's still not leveled up that far. She's mostly used it for one purpose - and she still has knowledge of who she is, even if she's segmented most of it off in an alternate personality. Also yeah Manon's backstory makes it pretty clear that there are alternatives to what the Church does with Lost Ones - they deliberately choose to murder them instead. |
Jun 3, 2022 6:38 PM
#20
Lab_Rat_0978 said: btw we have already seen Ivory, in the first episode. it was archbishop orwell who summoned her, forced her to be the hero and then killed her after she did her "job" pandemonium isnt joking when she says everyone forgets Ivory, did she just break the 4th wall? I think she knows people only remember mitsuki, the tragic self insert character who got killed by menou in the first episode lol Actually, no, that girl wasn't Ivory. Ivory has actually appeared in the anime, but that girl of the first episode wasn't her, but it would be kinda of a spoiler to say who Ivory was XD. |
Jun 3, 2022 6:47 PM
#21
Violet42 said: Coolest episode so far, Manon was a really sad, tragic character in the end, a victim of the world's shittiness twisted into serving an abomination. It was also rather sad when she said Menou didn't really have to do this - she doesn't have to be a murderer if she doesn't like doing it, and Menou just brushes that aside and declares it as her only purpose in life. though it was absolute easy to see coming that the girl was Pandemonium all along, what with the wall of fog literally being right there, and Akari in the boat noticing the first major divergence out there. Plus the girl willingly going into the iron maiden. It also just makes intuitive sense that one of the Human Errors can resist Akari's Pure Concept. After all, as inherently powerful as it is, it's still not leveled up that far. She's mostly used it for one purpose - and she still has knowledge of who she is, even if she's segmented most of it off in an alternate personality. Also yeah Manon's backstory makes it pretty clear that there are alternatives to what the Church does with Lost Ones - they deliberately choose to murder them instead. well Church has been thinking of other ways, during Flare early career she ask why don't Faust just invent reverse summoning device, it doesn't work since Pure Concept will be left behind in this world. Sealing Lost One might works, but it risk the posibility of someone breaking the seal and destroying the world, and its kinda touch the grey are of, was it worth it kidnapping someone and locking them in confinement if they pose threat. The same apply even if this world itself summon a person fron Japan, do we just lock them up if they were to lost control. They will still cause disaster when they die of natural causes (depends on what the concept). It's basically a bet to summon a non-lethal concept and hope that no more contient is yetted for the 5th time |
Jun 3, 2022 7:06 PM
#22
Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: btw we have already seen Ivory, in the first episode. it was archbishop orwell who summoned her, forced her to be the hero and then killed her after she did her "job" pandemonium isnt joking when she says everyone forgets Ivory, did she just break the 4th wall? I think she knows people only remember mitsuki, the tragic self insert character who got killed by menou in the first episode lol Actually, no, that girl wasn't Ivory. Ivory has actually appeared in the anime, but that girl of the first episode wasn't her, but it would be kinda of a spoiler to say who Ivory was XD. I thought she was Ivory the whole time lol her name is literally Ivory too after all the real Ivory has actually appeared in the....anime? in what episode?? |
Jun 3, 2022 7:18 PM
#23
Lab_Rat_0978 said: Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: btw we have already seen Ivory, in the first episode. it was archbishop orwell who summoned her, forced her to be the hero and then killed her after she did her "job" pandemonium isnt joking when she says everyone forgets Ivory, did she just break the 4th wall? I think she knows people only remember mitsuki, the tragic self insert character who got killed by menou in the first episode lol Actually, no, that girl wasn't Ivory. Ivory has actually appeared in the anime, but that girl of the first episode wasn't her, but it would be kinda of a spoiler to say who Ivory was XD. I thought she was Ivory the whole time lol her name is literally Ivory too after all the real Ivory has actually appeared in the....anime? in what episode?? Haha, well, yeah she isn't Ivory, actually I think Flare said that that looked like Ivory but it wasn't that since if it was the second coming of Ivory then no one would have survived. Again, saying who Ivory is is a spoiler since the anime having her appearing is already a hard foreshadowing lol, I'll tell you in DMs since this is an anime discussion. |
Jun 3, 2022 7:38 PM
#24
The gore and "twisted" in this ep are really awesome, but the best part for me is when Manon taunted Menou for hating her executioner job and she could ask Akari to cleanse her bloodshed profile with pure concept and start a new maiden life free from all sins(aka Virgin Road) if she desires. Yeah, that remark really went right through Menou's heart and guts. |
Jun 3, 2022 8:02 PM
#25
Good episode, similar to Mahoutsukai Remiekei this season, you're sometimes reminded of the true, violent nature of their respective worlds when gore ridden scenes play out every now and then. Difference is that this anime has a much more interesting story and better characters. |
Jun 3, 2022 8:02 PM
#26
Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. |
Jun 3, 2022 8:04 PM
#27
Lab_Rat_0978 said: @daft_mariner I think she knows people only remember mitsuki, the tragic self insert character who got killed by menou in the first episode lol even if he had survived pandemonium would have killed him anyway hahaha |
Jun 3, 2022 8:54 PM
#28
The neck twisting bit was sooo creepy. |
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Jun 3, 2022 9:02 PM
#29
Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. welp, akari's power couldn't even stop a fragment of ivory its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb no wonder manon isnt scared of akari since the beginning? pandemonium would come out upon manon's death, neo pandemonium would come out upon predecessor pandemonium's death and so on endlessly pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) |
Lab_Rat_0978Jun 3, 2022 9:08 PM
Jun 3, 2022 9:38 PM
#30
Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. welp, akari's power couldn't even stop a fragment of ivory its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb no wonder manon isnt scared of akari since the beginning? pandemonium would come out upon manon's death, neo pandemonium would come out upon predecessor pandemonium's death and so on endlessly pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Um, I guess that makes sense. But I'm talking about us before knowing that even if she had done something, nothing would have changed. At the time, we didn't know about ivory or pandemonium, which is why it's somewhat upsetting that she didn't even try to stop her at the time. |
Jun 3, 2022 10:01 PM
#31
Pretty good villain writing on Manon Libelle. At the end of the day, she just wants to break free from her restraints and change. She's evil but at the same time I felt sorry for her death. She was told that she has an older sister and I wish this sister comes into play later on. They bring back that girl in the iron maiden but good lord she is creepy. And the twist that she is the actual embodiment of Pandemonium. Can't wait for more action and shocking twists. The fights are very well animated and I hope this gets a season 2. |
Jun 3, 2022 10:31 PM
#32
Joey-XD19202 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. welp, akari's power couldn't even stop a fragment of ivory its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb no wonder manon isnt scared of akari since the beginning? pandemonium would come out upon manon's death, neo pandemonium would come out upon predecessor pandemonium's death and so on endlessly pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Um, I guess that makes sense. But I'm talking about us before knowing that even if she had done something, nothing would have changed. At the time, we didn't know about ivory or pandemonium, which is why it's somewhat upsetting that she didn't even try to stop her at the time. myb cuz akari is not an executioner like menou? merely witnessing manon who talked to her for the first time ever was more than enough to make her stunned for a while manon could've easily cut akari's throat off instead of simply stroking her beautiful japenese black hair akari is a sitting duck most of the time, thats just how she is menou however, as we can see she didnt even let pandemonium-chan finished her speech she instantly aimed for the neck lol killed her on the spot |
Jun 3, 2022 11:10 PM
#33
Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. welp, akari's power couldn't even stop a fragment of ivory its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb no wonder manon isnt scared of akari since the beginning? pandemonium would come out upon manon's death, neo pandemonium would come out upon predecessor pandemonium's death and so on endlessly pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Um, I guess that makes sense. But I'm talking about us before knowing that even if she had done something, nothing would have changed. At the time, we didn't know about ivory or pandemonium, which is why it's somewhat upsetting that she didn't even try to stop her at the time. myb cuz akari is not an executioner like menou? merely witnessing manon who talked to her for the first time ever was more than enough to make her stunned for a while manon could've easily cut akari's throat off instead of simply stroking her beautiful japenese black hair akari is a sitting duck most of the time, thats just how she is menou however, as we can see she didnt even let pandemonium-chan finished her speech she instantly aimed for the neck lol killed her on the spot I guess you're right since Manon totally went off the script for the first time in at least two regressions. It would be weird for one to not be dumbfounded. |
Jun 4, 2022 2:02 AM
#34
nice surprise, I thought Manon was the main boss of this arc, but she's just used by the real final boss - which is the loli. :D it's clear now that Akari power is weaker than what a "human error" has. She cannot stop the Starhusk piece from falling on a previous ep.. and here, Pandæmonium was still able to consume people who are time freezed. Would Akari have died if Manon was able to hit her with that black thing? That would have stopped the time looping. and Menou-chan, please stop trying to kill the cute loli! seriously though, this made me curious on the Ivory hero that Pandæmonium mentioned? (I would not look or reply to answers to this, don't want spoiler, sorry). looking forward to next week! :) |
Jun 4, 2022 2:25 AM
#35
@Liddo-kun Agreed We Must Protecc the loli, pandemonium-chan she's over a thousand years old loli but a loli is still a loli I would be really devastated if she dies....she's such an amusing, bright and cheerful loli she likes dancing and making movies, I wish she would be a great movie director or screenwriter in the future |
Jun 4, 2022 2:38 AM
#36
this episode was brutal bro! ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ Loved it ๐ |
Jun 4, 2022 4:27 AM
#37
The show seems illogical as usual in many aspects. For example, if Menou is searching for the way to kill Akari, why did she save her? Both the behavior and the voice of the immortal monster/girl is just annoying and not terrifying. The episode should have assigned more time to the fight between Menou and Manon. After having built the detailed settings of an opponent through a few episodes, the effort was consumed in only 30 seconds. BGM died away at the beginning and only frustration was left to the audience. |
Jun 4, 2022 6:33 AM
#38
Whelp, been waiting to see Pandemonium in action since I saw her in the OP, and she did not disappoint. |
Jun 4, 2022 7:23 AM
#39
yoo this episode so intense and epic !! that new cute villain is awesome and cool !! |
Jun 4, 2022 9:02 AM
#40
It's always the creepy little girl, and I love It. |
Jun 4, 2022 10:46 AM
#41
Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Gotta quote this, it is actually Ivory >>>>> Pandemonium in her prime. This episode actually kinda says that since it was already mentioned that the Ivory hero defeated all other Human Errors. |
Jun 4, 2022 10:52 AM
#42
kuroneko99 said: The show seems illogical as usual in many aspects. For example, if Menou is searching for the way to kill Akari, why did she save her? Actually easy to answer, she shouldn't let Akari die unless there is a sure way to kill her since she will revive if she gets killed and not in a permanent way, and last time when she was thrown to the place where Pandemonium was she revived without problem after being killed there, what makes you think that Manon's incomplete power will kill her for real? I know that Menou didn't know about what that power was at the time, but from her experience before you could asume that even if she was killed then Akari would return. |
Jun 4, 2022 11:20 AM
#43
If anyone would like to spoil me on who Ivory was in anime I'd be thankful. :) |
Jun 4, 2022 12:19 PM
#44
Jun 4, 2022 12:29 PM
#45
Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. The way i understood it is that Akari was just there to talk to Manon to figure out what caused the timeline to change, so killing Manon at that moment must have seemed counterproductive to her. Maybe she wanted to see if what she draws would give her a clue as to whats happening and thought that she could just stop/rewind time if anything malicious comes from that drawing. Alternatively, Akaris wording implies that she knows that Manon is trying to do something with the frozen people and firmly believes it wont work due to her power being superior, hence why she does nothing. or as others have pointed out, she could be just stunned from the developments and hesitated, in think her crying is supposed to indicate this. She is a school girl after all, not some trained assasine Idk why so many peoples first reaction to not understanding a sequence / characters behaviour is to assume the show is illogical or bad, instead of considering that there is an explanation they just arent seeing or that it will be explained further down the line. I have noticed this a lot in regards to this anime. |
Jun 4, 2022 2:07 PM
#46
Lab_Rat_0978 said: Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: btw we have already seen Ivory, in the first episode. it was archbishop orwell who summoned her, forced her to be the hero and then killed her after she did her "job" pandemonium isnt joking when she says everyone forgets Ivory, did she just break the 4th wall? I think she knows people only remember mitsuki, the tragic self insert character who got killed by menou in the first episode lol Actually, no, that girl wasn't Ivory. Ivory has actually appeared in the anime, but that girl of the first episode wasn't her, but it would be kinda of a spoiler to say who Ivory was XD. I thought she was Ivory the whole time lol her name is literally Ivory too after all the real Ivory has actually appeared in the....anime? in what episode?? The girl who wiped out Menou's hometown was one of the people who got their souls bleached by Orwell. It went further than Orwell expected, though, and overwrote her Pure Concept with Ivory, but apparently not at anywhere near the same power level. |
Jun 4, 2022 2:07 PM
#47
Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Gotta quote this, it is actually Ivory >>>>> Pandemonium in her prime. This episode actually kinda says that since it was already mentioned that the Ivory hero defeated all other Human Errors. pandemonium-chan is still doing okay tho, still being an amusing, bright and cheerful loli as usual she says not even ivory could kill her? I wonder whats ivory doing atm, is she still around like pandemonium-chan? |
Jun 4, 2022 2:10 PM
#48
Lab_Rat_0978 said: Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Gotta quote this, it is actually Ivory >>>>> Pandemonium in her prime. This episode actually kinda says that since it was already mentioned that the Ivory hero defeated all other Human Errors. pandemonium-chan is still doing okay tho, still being an amusing, bright and cheerful loli as usual she says not even ivory could kill her? I wonder whats ivory doing atm, is she still around like pandemonium-chan? Yeah, Pandemonium is fine because she was sealed in the fog and because she is extremely hard to kill, and also very hard to find, that's why she is "fine". But otherwise she is probably the weakest of the Human Errors if not by her survability. |
Jun 4, 2022 2:56 PM
#49
Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Gotta quote this, it is actually Ivory >>>>> Pandemonium in her prime. This episode actually kinda says that since it was already mentioned that the Ivory hero defeated all other Human Errors. pandemonium-chan is still doing okay tho, still being an amusing, bright and cheerful loli as usual she says not even ivory could kill her? I wonder whats ivory doing atm, is she still around like pandemonium-chan? Yeah, Pandemonium is fine because she was sealed in the fog and because she is extremely hard to kill, and also very hard to find, that's why she is "fine". But otherwise she is probably the weakest of the Human Errors if not by her survability. its implied that pandemonium told manon about akari who's been relooping for numerous time so she really knows about it? when did she realise it? I thought it was flare's doing, like her wielding the sword of salt would give her a resistance to akari's acausality somehow I thought the 4 human errors were all already dead, until pandemonium mader her fabulous debut on screen |
Lab_Rat_0978Jun 4, 2022 3:01 PM
Jun 4, 2022 2:58 PM
#50
Lab_Rat_0978 said: Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Ionliosite2 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: Joey-XD19202 said: Akari is DUMB. SUPER DUMB! Your enemy is LITERALLY making a magic-like sign on the ground and she just watches on, then is surprised when something comes out of the said "magic sign" that she just watched her enemy draw. LIKE WHAT?! Meh to downright nonsensical episode. its revealed that pandemonium is on par with prime ivory, and manon literally had pandemonium within her womb pandemonium => ivory >>>> akari's (pure concept of time) Gotta quote this, it is actually Ivory >>>>> Pandemonium in her prime. This episode actually kinda says that since it was already mentioned that the Ivory hero defeated all other Human Errors. pandemonium-chan is still doing okay tho, still being an amusing, bright and cheerful loli as usual she says not even ivory could kill her? I wonder whats ivory doing atm, is she still around like pandemonium-chan? Yeah, Pandemonium is fine because she was sealed in the fog and because she is extremely hard to kill, and also very hard to find, that's why she is "fine". But otherwise she is probably the weakest of the Human Errors if not by her survability. its implied that pandemonium told manon about akari who's been relooping for numerous time so she really knows about it? when did she realise it? I thought it was flare's doing, like her wielding the sword of salt would give her a resistance to akari's acausality somehow Yeah, she knows about Akari's looping, she noticed it inside of the fog since there was a part of it that was getting cracked with each loop. Nah, Flare's having the Sword of Salt is apart from her doing stuff with the time loops, the anime will eventually explain it anyways. |
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