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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- FukuJun's character is the one who talks about the past story. Old lady tending the two daughters Miroku. A youkai visiting Inuyasha, about his ancestor's making Inuyasha's sword. He gave him the pearl and he hid it in his eye. FukuJun's character visiting Kagome. He is the one who got them involved w. Kirinmaru (needing brothers working together to defeat him). That's when the human girl (this is the answer to this week's question on Official Twitter, you know who) gave birth to the twins. Sesshoumaru didn't throw them away, but to hide them for their safety. It must be the first time the youkai who always followed Sesshoumaru used his power (I don't really have memory of him so useful)? He set the seal. Hanyous are dangerous to Kirinmaru? Sesshoumaru then volunteered to work w. Kirinmaru. Does he has some sort of plan or he still hated Inuyasha? FukuJun's character was there, too, looking at the result? Inuyasha's daughter was sent to the wolf youkai group (after that scene that showed earlier). That lady found out where the twins were hidden and told that fire youkai from last ep. to burn the forest. New youkai next Inuyasha Kagome daughter's teacher? |
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| So, initial reaction was... ok, feel like we're finally getting somewhere good. There were fragments of previous episodes which reached the quality of the original (and the final act) of Inuyasha. Meanwhile, the other bits were just below par. Quite curious to hear about Moroha's time with the demon wolf tribe too. To address the elephant in the room, some more time is needed to gather my thoughts, but I'm interested to hear what others think since its not official. Although how old is Rin exactly around the time she gave birth? |
plutochan said: So, initial reaction was... ok, feel like we're finally getting somewhere good. There were fragments of previous episodes which reached the quality of the original (and the final act) of Inuyasha. Meanwhile, the other bits were just below par. Quite curious to hear about Moroha's time with the demon wolf tribe too. To address the elephant in the room, some more time is needed to gather my thoughts, but I'm interested to hear what others think since its not official. Although how old is Rin exactly around the time she gave birth? It's said to be around 17-18. She was 11 or 12 during the end of TFA (Some people also said something about her age being 13 at the end of TFA but I'm not sure about this) and this takes place about 6 years later. So 17-18 is a solid number. Although Riku says that Inuyasha was given the Black Pearl 18 years before the present and Kaede mentions that its been a month since they beat Root Head. So that's 4 years from the end of TFA, which means Rin would've been 15-16 at a lower estimate. Anyway Rin was at the very least, around 15 (Not happy about that but that is lowest age. Although I'm hoping its around 17) Overall a good episode. Couldn't stop grinning when I saw Inuyasha and everyone else. Plenty of answers and a few more questions. |
TitanInsane said: plutochan said: So, initial reaction was... ok, feel like we're finally getting somewhere good. There were fragments of previous episodes which reached the quality of the original (and the final act) of Inuyasha. Meanwhile, the other bits were just below par. Quite curious to hear about Moroha's time with the demon wolf tribe too. To address the elephant in the room, some more time is needed to gather my thoughts, but I'm interested to hear what others think since its not official. Although how old is Rin exactly around the time she gave birth? It's said to be around 17-18. She was 11 or 12 during the end of TFA (Some people also said something about her age being 13 at the end of TFA but I'm not sure about this) and this takes place about 6 years later. So 17-18 is a solid number. Although Riku says that Inuyasha was given the Black Pearl 18 years before the present and Kaede mentions that its been a month since they beat Root Head. So that's 4 years from the end of TFA, which means Rin would've been 15-16 at a lower estimate. Anyway Rin was at the very least, around 15 (Not happy about that but that is lowest age. Although I'm hoping its around 17) Overall a good episode. Couldn't stop grinning when I saw Inuyasha and everyone else. Plenty of answers and a few more questions. Thanks for the clarification, hoping as well she's around the 17 years mark. I believe the current age of consent in Japan is 13 years old, so by law it's legal, but ethically not so much. However, Inuyasha was set in the Sengoku period (1467-1603), and things were probably different then. I've discussed the age of consent with several Japanese friends, who all agreed 13 is way too young, so this may be a huge cultural difference. |
| So lots of answers this episode. It's confirmed that Rin is Towa and Setsuna's mother and it surprises almost no one. Now we know what happened to Inuyasha/Kagome and why none of the three children have no memories of their parents. From all original cast, only Shippou's whereabouts are yet to be explained, even though I have a feeling it will never be. Still, we have no answers of what happened to Rin after that and why she is asleep. Neither how Setsuna escaped the fire. I have a feeling that both happenings may be connected. This episode was fine and it was fun to remember how opposites Sesshoumaru and Inuyasha are when it comes to personality. While one is quiet and shows what he is planning through his actions, the other says everything he in thinking. By the way, I don't know what everyone else thinks, but Sesshoumaru and the barrier thing got me surprised. It may sound weird because of what he was planning, but for me he was showing some unexpected kindness. Honestly I loved that. |
| What a mess! On a sidenote: can we not get hung up on people's ages? There's no way to possibly fathom a world that existed four-five hundred years ago, and for most of us on the other side of the world at that; and approaching it with a modern mindset is all sorts of wrong to begin with anyway. Not only that, but they're fictional characters in a rather literal fairytale. Come on. Or are we also gonna start debating how old a half demon has to be to mate?... |
| Well...back to the post-days of Inuyasha: The Final Act, and finding out what's going on with the link between this and Yashahime. This episode IS be the entire backstory of why Yashahime exists in the first place, 18 years prior. OSUWARI, Inuyasha! Greatly missed this gag. So Hisui was actually born some years ahead of Moroha, and Riku appears in the picture for the very first time. And it's finally confirmed that Rin gave birth to both Setsuna and Towa...what a thought (though speculations can be for certain). The Great Comet of 500 years affecting the next generation (which is the current trio half-demons), a contrived thought for both Inuyasha and Sesshomaru. So like the Shikon Jewel, the Rainbow Pearls hidden within demons...paving the way of how Yashahime continues the legacy of Inuyasha. Haven't seen Kirinmaru in a long while, though the implications of the half-demon daughters still remain the same. Setsuna and Towa in Jaken's care, and Moroha taken to Koga's care. As far as Riku goes, his Black Pearl did all the work, and for Sesshomaru, his job was simply done after that. If anything, this is the basis of how Yashahime started in Riku's POV having been through time back then and now. |
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| Finally some answers! Not as many as I would have liked but at least some. I'm really really glad to see Inuyasha and Kagome aren't dead! Also happy we finally got the confirmation that Rin is the mom (even though it really wasn't that surprising), so hopefully the fights about that can finally calm down. I thought the POV for this episode was pretty interesting. Since we're seeing all this through Riku's lens the pacing is pretty rapid and it feels like a lot of information is missing. I don't necessary like the style but in context it does make sense. Stuff like Rin barely appearing at all - of course, to Riku / outsiders she is completely irrelevant aside from being Sesshomaru's wife and mother of his kids (while also being a human) - or the big gaps in the story aside from the necessary elements to grasp what is happening. Riku also obviously doesn't know everything, like what happened to Rin, how Setsuna survived the forest fire or how Moroha got to where she is now. All in all I'm still pretty meh about this whole show but it felt nice to finally get some answers and seeing more of the OG cast again. I'm also looking forward to Moroha finally getting more screentime again next week, I'm tired of her getting sidelined. To me she is the best part of this whole sequel, tbh. |
| When I started watching I was super confused, wondering who the hell would wed Sesshomaru, but when I was reminded that it was Rin. It all made sense. |
| Jaken probably the one who save Setsuna. Since this Zero can track people with dream they probably use dream butterfly to erase Setsuna's dream too |
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| I bet Kagome and Inuyasha already made a soccer team during that timespan |
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| Finally we got our answers. We saw what actually happened in the past, what happened to Kagome and Inuyasha and why Sesshoumaru is acting weird. So Kagome and Inuyasha are sealed in the black pearl. Rin is Towa and Setsuna's mom thou we still dunno why she's inside the tree. Also wow so Riku's been there for that long huh, I wonder if he's just a spectator or he has some ulteriror motives. Great episode overall, loved it. |
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| We got to see Sesshoumaru, Inuyasha, Kagome and Rin. It was good to see them again. They finally confirmed that Rin's the mom of Setsuna and Towa. Sesshoumaru trapped Inuyasha and Kagome inside the pearl but he's most likely has another plan to save the kids. It was probably the best episode of this show. |
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plutochan said: Thanks for the clarification, hoping as well she's around the 17 years mark. I believe the current age of consent in Japan is 13 years old, so by law it's legal, but ethically not so much. However, Inuyasha was set in the Sengoku period (1467-1603), and things were probably different then. I've discussed the age of consent with several Japanese friends, who all agreed 13 is way too young, so this may be a huge cultural difference. While 13 is the legal age, most prefectures in Japan set the age at 16 or 18. 13 is the legal age but having sex with anyone under 16 or 18 (depending on the prefecture) will invite legal action. Noisrev said: I bet Kagome and Inuyasha already made a soccer team during that timespan Lol, I wouldn't be surprised if Moroha had some competition if they ever get re-united. |
| I really hoped Rin wouldn't end up being the mother... Now I get that it's totally different times and girls got married and had children much younger than in modern times... Still it's freaking disturbing that Sesshomaru knew Rin since she was a child. I always saw their relationship as sibling-like. Now it looks as if Sesshomaru has been 'grooming' her to be his mate :/ That's my point of view. Tbh Sesshomaru having daughters in general is so out of character for him in my opinion... |
Aikeji said: I really hoped Rin wouldn't end up being the mother... Now I get that it's totally different times and girls got married and had children much younger than in modern times... Still it's freaking disturbing that Sesshomaru knew Rin since she was a child. I always saw their relationship as sibling-like. Now it looks as if Sesshomaru has been 'grooming' her to be his mate :/ That's my point of view. Tbh Sesshomaru having daughters in general is so out of character for him in my opinion... Considering how little crap he gives about human society norms I am not surprised. Besides, Rin lived her later years between humans and not with him. So she could make her own choice just fine. |
| We got many answers, not all of them but at least the plot is starting to make sense. It was kinda obvious Sesshoumaru is playing sneaky here, it will be probably fun when he turns on Kirinmaru. (hopefully with Inuyasha freed by that time). I don't really get how nobody rescued them though. There is a gate that leads to the place where they are trapped, someone just has to open it for them. (the one that will literally try to murder you so you can "pass" lol) I remember it being problematic in the OG though, you can't open it from the inside so it's essentially a one way street if you are alone and we don't know other ways to escape out of that dimension. (except the black pearl could have been one but that got taken from Inuyasha) |
| About time we got some answers regarding the whereabouts of Inuyasha and Kagome which they are trapped in the black pearl. Rin gave birth to Towa and Setsuna, but Sesshomaru quickly to his daughters to a place where Zero won't find them. That explains why Towa, Setsuna, and Moroha don't know anything about their parents because they were separated at birth. |
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| "Imagine my shock when they finally revealed Rin as the mother" Glad we're done with that subject now heh. I still find it funny people are getting triggered by the age difference thing ^^ Funny how Kagome immediately trusted Riku about the freaking comet. Sesshomaru doing his usual thing, was funny how he sucked up Inuyasha and Kagome and Kirinmaru doesn't really give much fucks about him helping them for some reason. Wonder if they're still inside the pearl lol. Gdi Riku stop it with the tease...good that a lot of questions were finally answered with this episode though. |
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| FINALLLY. We get the answers we been wanting for years. The whole fandom had already pretty much accepted that Rin and Sesshomaru were a thing because of the drama CD released after final act, but still this removes all doubt. We also finally know where Inuyasha and Kagome are. Sesshomaru didn’t want to kill his brother or Kagome so he just transported them to Inu no Taisha’s grave. He also had Jaken put the barrier up to protect the girls, he really has come a long way emotionally. I still don’t understand why Kaede, Miroku and Sango act like they don’t know who the girls are though. Anyway, great episode, feel a lot better now. |
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| Finally, an episode centered on what happened to Inuyasha, Kagome, Sesshomaru, and their children! So it's finally officially confirmed that Rin is the mother. And Inuyasha and Kagome are alive. They're just trapped in the black pearl lol. Sesshomaru, as always, doing his own thing without telling anyone else what's going on. It's kinda weird how Kirinmaru automatically assumed Sesshomaru would help him kill Inuyasha when he was just talking about killing his children, but whatever I guess. I felt like this episode was a bit fast-paced cause it was basically a summary of the most important parts and I wish they could've focused on fleshing everything out slightly longer than one episode. But good enough for now. Looks like next episode will focus on Moroha and maybe a bit of her past, looking forward to it! It's cool to see how Koga helped raise her too, hopefully he would show up again sooner or later. |
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
| Damn this ep was really good. Jaken most likely saved Setsuna while Towa got out herself. |
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| I have two hypotheses here: - The initial idea was to make this a two parter but the production was cut to only one, thus it looks rushed. - They never intended to make this episode expecting the viewers to piece the puzzle together themselves but the producers were like "Come on! People want answers and they want them fast!". |
Rin is Towa and Setsuna's mom, how surprising. |
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| Sesshomaru comes in and takes two newborns with only a one sentence “explanation” and all Rin says is “I have faith in you”?! I guess this is how their relationship was before but it would have been nice to show more interaction and character development of Sesshomaru. |
Esmera said: It's kinda weird how Kirinmaru automatically assumed Sesshomaru would help him kill Inuyasha when he was just talking about killing his children, but whatever I guess. I felt like this episode was a bit fast-paced cause it was basically a summary of the most important parts and I wish they could've focused on fleshing everything out slightly longer than one episode. But good enough for now. THIS! I know we’ll get more info in future episodes but I wish we could have gotten more background info. I also feel like the episodes haven’t been very cohesive |
| So...that explains things. We all knew that Rin was gonna be the answer but the whole timeline and age thing was what threw things off. So it is what it is, it's not like there could have been any other candidate for that role. What's weird is that the girl just gave birth to twins and Sesshomaru just up and grabbed them and took em elsewhere. That's some legendary shit. Safe to assume that Inuyasha and Kagome are still alive at least. We know Kagome is sealed up somewhere, but Inuyasha is just...somewhere else. I'm more curious of who Sesshomaru's mother is and just how powerful she is exactly. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
plutochan said: It's not official in what sense? So, initial reaction was... ok, feel like we're finally getting somewhere good. There were fragments of previous episodes which reached the quality of the original (and the final act) of Inuyasha. Meanwhile, the other bits were just below par. Quite curious to hear about Moroha's time with the demon wolf tribe too. To address the elephant in the room, some more time is needed to gather my thoughts, but I'm interested to hear what others think since its not official. Although how old is Rin exactly around the time she gave birth? |
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| HAHAHA Based Sesshomaru The future episodes will have more SessRin content for us all to enjoy.  |
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| Finally a good episode with answers! As expected, Rin was the mother. Now, I don't mind that, I don't have a problem with Sesshomaru/Rin like a lot of people has, what bothers me is how it was handled. For what it was shown there wasn't any development for Sesshomaru, Rin and their relationship. In the original series we saw Sesshomaru grow after he met Rin and started to care about her little by little. I thought that we would see a similar growth from him developing romantic feelings or the like for her but that didn't happen. That's the same Sesshomaru from "The Final Act" and I just don't see him getting it on with Rin, like... it just doesn't fit his character at all I think. I hope we'll see more about them, but for now I think it wasn't well resolved. |
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| Sesshomaru bang Rin when shes under 18??????Dang haha. I can't imagine. Finally we see Inuyasha and Kagome. And Riku is actually a demon? Kagome just believe some strangers story immediately. And we also saw Inuyasha's father human form. Finally some answers to our questions. |
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| oh w0w! so Riku is the one who lived to tell the tale! that a lot of important events here! 5/5. |
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Luchia said: It seems like he gave up on Kagome, moved on, and has a new family now. DedPanda said: I'm more curious of who Sesshomaru's mother is and just how powerful she is exactly. Eh... Where did you guys gone when the Final Act anime is still airing back in 2009? Lol Also, ]In the last 5 minutes, we see Koga with his white haired wife and newborn child Nope, the one with white haired wasn't Koga's wife but the one standing beside him was. Lol |
| Anyone else get triggered when Rin just acted the same as she did with Sesshoumaru when she and him concieved two kids yes me too |
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| I know the scene where Sesshomaru came and took the newborns was pretty lifeless, but that's because he had no time to waste, every second could have put rin or the babies in danger, and you know he is not saying what's in his mind and Rin knew he has a GOOD reason for doing that, that's why she did not ask anything. She knows him very well i think. That's also why he was outside looking around the village, because he knew something bad was gonna happen. Probably Jaken was somehow taking care of the twins from afar AND maybe he is the one that saved Setsuna in that fire. Riku is probably a half-demon as well? There are many things left to explain, and i wonder where Shippo is, maybe he is gonna be a very important character at some point in the story? |
| Damn I love this episode! what an amazing episode. This filled up some details very nicely while not divulging the whole plot of yashahime. Some things finally made more sense. So good to hear Sesshomaru's theme and Bakusaiga. Aaaaaaah <3 <3 |
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