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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Now they got Wam and Sansa spreading across the world. Interesting.. With a lot at stake, I feel like this episode really reached a climax from all the buildup. The part about evolution of humanity also strikes as an interesting development. About time Shindo steps up his game. |
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| The sequence in the beginning was really well done. I was a bit skeptical with the reveal but with this episode I think it was done very well. I also like what seems to be Za Shuina doubting himself after "killing" Shindo. |
| So, part of the Administrators chose to be a character of the game. But it's hard to defeat the player of the game sittin on the other side. Some kind of trick will be needed. |
| this is getting more complicated and more serious. It was a well done episode. |
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| I love zaShunina's expessions in this episode, especially at the end when he seemingly starts to doubt himself. |
| The scenes in the beginning was beautiful. It was cool to see how things began. This episode can make you question who is right or wrong. Shindo got hurt saving Saraka, but he's okay now. Got to know more about her. zaShunina brought out a clone of him and is using him to show the world the fourth anisotropic power. |
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| I'm conflicted with this episode. It sure has a lot of production value, but the plot is taking a different approach from what I was expecting. The preview also gave me a warning flag that the plot went south. A weapon to defeat an anisotropic being? Isn't the anisotropic supreme over the universe cocoon they created? We have 2 settings: 1- zaShunina seems to be thinking about his own actions which may lead to a change of his behavior 2- A weapon is created and it blast zaShunina ass out of the universe Neither of the options is bringing zaShunina and humanity back to a negotiation table, which is a shame. |
AdrianRubinskyJun 16, 2017 8:24 AM
| Little Saraka was cute 😆😆 It seems like the great anisotropic being had been influenced by simple humans, I wonder how things will go next. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| I'm frustrated how this anime is going downhill with the Saraka-part (her being an anisotropic being and the kiss and her snuggling inside of Shindo's shirt and all that) :/ For me it totally destroyed the atmosphere. You had potential, what are you doing >__< |
| zaShunina is starting to doubt himself. It was nice to get to know more about Tsukai |
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| Saraka made this world and just let it naturally progress but gave up most of her power to live in it reincarnating into a different thing each time. She saved shindo naked :) and zaShunina feeling something from nearly killing the real shindo. |
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| Were are the people that said that this was becoming a Battle shounen? lmao the first half was just beautiful, outstanding OST, and an interesting theory of how everything was created, looks like Saraka wanted to see Humanity Evolution, so she took part as one of the childs of a family. that's lit! I really can't take serious people saying that her part with shindou killed the moment, it was just brilliant, it might be clichéd but Shindo has a point, Humans sometimes do weird things and now, how to deal with zaShunina now? |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Damn the ost was got damn amazing this episode. LOL @ the way it ended you see the credits the way they did it you think the series is over with. For her to be that ancient she shouldn't be damn shy about nudity. |
| I don't take this show seriously since several episodes already but I'm quite impressed, or delighted maybe, while watching the train wreck. If only they could push it a bit further with the bad ideas in the next episodes, they would even manage to make me laugh. I do hope Shindou gets extra super powers too. would be hilarious! |
DNI_R said: When Shindo woke up and we saw naked Saraka wrapped up in his shirt i almost shed a tear... Toei Animation basically just destroyed all the goodwill that i had left for them. RIP little left morality |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| Yeah, this is really bad now. It went from negotiations and grey morality to anisotropic waifu war with a forced romance. |
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| Yeah, i can't really hide my disappointment about this episode, this was bad. They turned up the clichés to 100, i wouldn't normally mind clichés that much but it doesn't fit this show (at least what it showed us for 8 episodes). I really like Tsukai but her involvement in this anime ended up making it pretty bad (her being an anisotropic), you just should have had her as a normal human negotiator for the earth side. zaShunina having possible regrets? Don't know where this is going (he has a clone for real now from Shindo). I honestly don't see how Toei can wrap this up nicely after this episode. |
SmudyJun 16, 2017 11:57 AM
| Well, that sure is a way to completely ruin a series in one episode. The whole existence of anisotropic-Saraka seems really unnecessary, even disregarding her annoying personality. Welp. Also... is the ring going to be explained?? The backstory told nothing imo. |
 Once we seize space, we'll all... |
| "I LOVE HUMAN AND I BELIEVE IN THE POTENTIAL OF HUMANITY, BUT I WILL COME BACK IF YOU FAIL TO MEET MY EXPECTATION! GOOD BYE!" the ending will be like that cliche human vs higher beings in anime and jrpg... sort of |
Cross  AngeHey guys check my profile for current airing season anime recommendation (guaranteed best taste) |
| Isn't kissing an unconscious man sexual harassment? WTH was the entire point of that weird romance thing from Saraka? There's a time and place for everything, and that was probably the dumbest time to include romance. Eh, Zashunina questioning himself still shows that this anime is still about gray morality on what is right or wrong (with nature vs intervention emphasized more now). It's just a semi-wasted episode because of Saraka... Shame, I used to like her too. I'll stay optimistic though, since Zashunina is developing nicely. |
 [/url]Seven-Coloured Puppeteer. |
| yeah i'm super disappointed in this episode. hopefully the show can turn it around? other people have already voiced my complaints before me, but yeah, this episode was filled with bad decisions both in the plot and in the characters. |
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| Oh man, this is Erased all over again. |
DatRandomDudeJun 16, 2017 1:52 PM
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| Even before coming to this topic I already predicted this would have a LOT of diverging opinions. It really became a train wreck. I don't mind spending 10 min on some background story, but I feel that it didn't really explain much. Well, it was beautifully produced nonetheless. I like Saraka and Shindo's pairing, and I'm all up for some romance, but that was a bit weird... and how did she end up naked after all?! That said, I still like her even with her being an anisiotropic being. But next episode's preview got me conflicted. Are they planning to forcefully kick Zashunina out? With a weapon? Isn't he supposed to be godlike or something? He seemed to be doubting himself after "killing" Shindo, so I'm expecting him to change his mind after some climax. |
| I felt like the first 5 minutes could have explained how Saraka became an anisiotropic being more clearly. This took a weird turn |
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| I was shocked when I saw a credit rolling and also when I finally knew this show is kinda ruined |
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ARubinsky said: 1- zaShunina seems to be thinking about his own actions which may lead to a change of his behavior 2- A weapon is created and it blast zaShunina ass out of the universe Don't forget the best solution is always one that benefits both sides in compromise (as it was told in the prologue). I believe the one Shindo would leave the Earth for Anisotrophy and the second one would stay there with Saraka. Anyway, this episode really manage to deliver on atmosphere and mood. And I like how simple gesture or emotion can tell a tons about zaShunina, even without words. |
| It's really funny and pathetic how a lot of you people's complaints come from your dislike of Saraka lol, just when I was starting to think MAL's forums was improving, I get reminded by how naive I was for thinking otherwise Either way, the first half of this episode was pretty nice especially considering that it was a culmination of all of the theories scientists around the world have come up with in regards to how the universe was formed etc but with the added twist of having higher beings involved And then there's seeing Saraka's journey from deity to human. The reason why I love this is pretty much the reason why a character like Superman is loved by most comic book readers. It's interesting to see how an individual who can literally do whatever they feel like (without anyone being able to stop them from doing so) learn about and really take in human values + experiences both figuratively and literally and now that we've gotten this backstory, it makes total sense as to why her character was the way it was written and why she was against Yaha's plans I want humanity to advance and I think that for the most part, Yaha's gifts would be very beneficial, but as we've seen, there will always be two sides in a conflict and although some of us here refuse to admit it, what Yaha's trying to do isn't necessarily a good thing either (And especially from a moral and or naturalist perspective - Like Sayaka) and we know this entirely because of how he and Saraka parallels each other as well as due to the difference in mindset and experiences between the two Yes we've seen something like this before, but to say that this ruined the series and made it super cliche' is just stupid and quite frankly, I dunno why I'm even disappointed with most of you in this thread.....How is it even remotely bad for the story to play out like this? If anything, these opposing views coming to a head like this is the most realistic and logical route to go here (Especially if you want to even the playing field since the opposing view is an almighty deity that is more or less dead set on doing what he came here to do) Either way, it looks like Yaha's gonna go through the same change that Saraka did since we've started to see signs that he too is coming to possibly understand where she's coming from and I have no problem with the whole romance stuff either because the girl has been living as a human for a while, and even though she still has abilities, the change in who she is, is pretty huge so naturally she would start to act more human AKA just like Superman does |
TokoyaJun 16, 2017 3:44 PM
| the first few minutes were confusing |
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Tokoya said: It's really funny and pathetic how a lot of you people's complaints come from your dislike of Saraka lol, just when I was starting to think MAL's forums was improving, I get reminded by how naive I was for thinking otherwise Either way, the first half of this episode was pretty nice especially considering that it was a culmination of all of the theories scientists around the world have come up with in regards to how the universe was formed etc but with the added twist of having higher beings involved And then there's seeing Saraka's journey from deity to human. The reason why I love this is pretty much the reason why a character like Superman is loved by most comic book readers. It's interesting to see how an individual who can literally do whatever they feel like (without anyone being able to stop them from doing so) learn about and really take in human values + experiences both figuratively and literally and now that we've gotten this backstory, it makes total sense as to why her character was the way it was written and why she was against Yaha's plans I want humanity to advance and I think that for the most part, Yaha's gifts would be very beneficial, but as we've seen, there will always be two sides in a conflict and although some of us here refuse to admit it, what Yaha's trying to do isn't necessarily a good thing either (And especially from a moral and or naturalist perspective - Like Sayaka) and we know this entirely because of how he and Saraka parallels each other as well as due to the difference in mindset and experiences between the two Yes we've seen something like this before, but to say that this ruined the series and made it super cliche' is just stupid and quite frankly, I dunno why I'm even disappointed with most of you in this thread.....How is it even remotely bad for the story to play out like this? If anything, these opposing views coming to a head like this is the most realistic and logical route to go here (Especially if you want to even the playing field since the opposing view is an almighty deity that is more or less dead set on doing what he came here to do) Either way, it looks like Yaha's gonna go through the same change that Saraka did since we've started to see signs that he too is coming to possibly understand where she's coming from and I have no problem with the whole romance stuff either because the girl has been living as a human for a while, and even though she still has abilities, the change in who she is, is pretty huge so naturally she would start to act more human AKA just like Superman does FINALLY someone needed to state this, people on this thread isn't thinking outside the box like you do. completely agreeing you with this. Nice example adding superman, I would never thought of something like that, but someone who spend enough time with certain people will get used to them (I believe this happened to Reiner in SnK) that was a Nice touch for Saraka |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| I dont like the cliche parts (even though Shindou's reaction was funny), but the episode itself was fine for me. I want more development on Zashunina. The preview seems to show that... I dont know. Two episodes left, I dont want to feel disappointed yet. |
AkashiAlice said: My friend, let me tell you something about love. From the perspective of a person who is 21, not that far in age from Saraka, the problem does not lay in herself. Why do you think almost the whole fandom disagrees? Because love needs time, love needs dedication, love appears in simple things and it makes you want to be with that person, love needs build up. What did Shindo and Saraka had? None of those. They had nor the time nor the build up, never mentioning the reason, especially Shindo had none, none to fall in love. He was oblivious to love, he did not show any interest in her, he had no time to love, he was too busy doing business, obviously. The only sort of reasoning we get is that she saved him but, really now, if someone saved you, a colleague at school let's say, would you fall in love with him ? Would you agree to that person straight up kissing you? I highly doubt it. Everything was forced. There is no love. And where there is no love, There is only hate. I'm out- Well, in your PoV the love is an emotional and social state in the humanity. But also the love can be and is just chemical effect on humans. Our naturally task is to breed and keep up the humanity. From the lowest mindset we decide in less than 1 second if we want pair up with a girl/boy. That's the body check. So, what's the point of love in the series now? Even Sakura is being "no human", she lived many years in human body and saw the body and social/brain developement. It's just natural that she can be affected by the nature and starts kissing automaitcally. Or it's just function to recover the men healths ^^ The romance/love part is not bad, neither the pairing. |
| We have a God of All Things. And since it's a girl, it becomes embarrassed by a guy seeing her naked. Ok Japan. One more anime dropped. I don't even want to know more. |
| The plot twist has changed a lot about this anime and now it feels like a whole new anime...but I like it! I just wish this would have happened sooner because now the anime is a real thrill to watch instead of making week to week just out of curiosity |
| I shall rule over the realms of anime and manga! Mwahhahahahaha!!! |
AkashiAlice said: Love needs time? Ever heard of love at first sight buddy? That's not a myth, it actually happens, and even then, you're acting like they haven't been spending time around each other for these past few weeks (This anime didn't take place during the course of a few days). Just because he was focused on his job, that doesn't mean that he's a robot that doesn't have emotions or feel attraction to the opposite sex (And especially someone as cute as Sayaka who became a hell a lot of more attractive and respectable after this revelation)Tokoya said: It's really funny and pathetic how a lot of you people's complaints come from your dislike of Saraka lol, just when I was starting to think MAL's forums was improving, I get reminded by how naive I was for thinking otherwise Either way, the first half of this episode was pretty nice especially considering that it was a culmination of all of the theories scientists around the world have come up with in regards to how the universe was formed etc but with the added twist of having higher beings involved And then there's seeing Saraka's journey from deity to human. The reason why I love this is pretty much the reason why a character like Superman is loved by most comic book readers. It's interesting to see how an individual who can literally do whatever they feel like (without anyone being able to stop them from doing so) learn about and really take in human values + experiences both figuratively and literally and now that we've gotten this backstory, it makes total sense as to why her character was the way it was written and why she was against Yaha's plans I want humanity to advance and I think that for the most part, Yaha's gifts would be very beneficial, but as we've seen, there will always be two sides in a conflict and although some of us here refuse to admit it, what Yaha's trying to do isn't necessarily a good thing either (And especially from a moral and or naturalist perspective - Like Sayaka) and we know this entirely because of how he and Saraka parallels each other as well as due to the difference in mindset and experiences between the two Yes we've seen something like this before, but to say that this ruined the series and made it super cliche' is just stupid and quite frankly, I dunno why I'm even disappointed with most of you in this thread.....How is it even remotely bad for the story to play out like this? If anything, these opposing views coming to a head like this is the most realistic and logical route to go here (Especially if you want to even the playing field since the opposing view is an almighty deity that is more or less dead set on doing what he came here to do) Either way, it looks like Yaha's gonna go through the same change that Saraka did since we've started to see signs that he too is coming to possibly understand where she's coming from and I have no problem with the whole romance stuff either because the girl has been living as a human for a while, and even though she still has abilities, the change in who she is, is pretty huge so naturally she would start to act more human AKA just like Superman does My friend, let me tell you something about love. From the perspective of a person who is 21, not that far in age from Saraka, the problem does not lay in herself. Why do you think almost the whole fandom disagrees? Because love needs time, love needs dedication, love appears in simple things and it makes you want to be with that person, love needs build up. What did Shindo and Saraka had? None of those. They had nor the time nor the build up, never mentioning the reason, especially Shindo had none, none to fall in love. He was oblivious to love, he did not show any interest in her, he had no time to love, he was too busy doing business, obviously. The only sort of reasoning we get is that she saved him but, really now, if someone saved you, a colleague at school let's say, would you fall in love with him ? Would you agree to that person straight up kissing you? I highly doubt it. Everything was forced. There is no love. And where there is no love, There is only hate. I'm out- You all are basing shit over a damn PV where we have no context whatsoever on how anything in it is going to take place and don't act like most of you wouldn't look away at least once if you see a colleague naked, he's a respectable grown ass man, not a horny teenager like in most harem anime out there |
TokoyaJun 16, 2017 6:50 PM
| All hail Tsukai. GUYS SHE LOVES US ALL Me and you. she loves that anime that is your favorite she loves that favorite food of yours. SHe is the universe's biggest fan after all :D |
| zaShunina fanboys are annoying Their crush is now the antagonist (saw it coming a mile away) zaShunina will die, I hope so |
Hirugiku said: All hail Tsukai. GUYS SHE LOVES US ALL Me and you. she loves that anime that is your favorite she loves that favorite food of yours. SHe is the universe's biggest fan after all :D Does she loves ISIS and north Korean gay porn too? |
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