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Dec 21, 2013 7:25 PM

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next week final episode... I'm going to miss this show

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Dec 21, 2013 7:27 PM

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So they actually go with 6 full episodes for Koi. Not saying that I'm surprised, specially since the previous episode was quite slow-paced and this one was no exception. But I'm not complaining. Koi became my favorite arc of this season, s'all good.

The whole dynamic between Kaiki and Hitagi is quite interesting. She feels gratefullness towards Kaiki because he's actually about to finish the job and thus ensure the safety of her and Koyomi. Her behavior in front of him changed from being very cautious to being a bit more at ease in front of him, kind of as they would come to terms with each other after all the hatred. But still, the stuff Kaiki did to her and her family is overbalancing, so she can't really forgive him. And Kaiki did all these things to her and her family just for her sake which implies that he actually cares about her development, but he doesn't want to admit it infront of anyone for the sake of keeping the whole ''I'm such a bad guyyyy!"-thing intact (Tsundere-alert!). Kaiki is such a great character.

Other than that, Kaiki is pretty much fucked now, but to be fair, his plan was a bit stupid (if that was actually his final plan). That, and he underestimated Nadeko's intelligence a bit. And after 6 month of Monogatari, we'll have the last episode of the second season next week. Kinda sad, but well...
DawnJ said:
One more episode to the epic climax and the...


I've been waiting for it since the beginning of the second season, and Shaft shouldn't fuck up.

Dem reactions will be glorious.
V0ltgDec 21, 2013 7:51 PM
Dec 21, 2013 7:28 PM

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Kaiki is in some big trouble right about now. Although his silver tongue will probably get him out of such a sticky situation. Im expecting him Pulling out the "I expected this revelation all along."
Dec 21, 2013 7:28 PM

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HOLY SHIT HE"S FUCKED

But nah, this is probably part of his plan. His lie is actually so poorly thought out that it makes him seem very ignorant of the situation. Obviously two vampires aren't going to die in a traffic accident, Kaiki wouldn't be so dumb as to overlook that. So the deception must hinge on Nadeko realizing how poor a lie that was, and coming to the conclusion that he doesn't actually know the circumstances behind the ordeal, especially Koyomi and Shinobu being vampires. That may allow him to play the "I just didn't want you to dirty your pretty hands yada yada" card, like he ignorantly lied on her behalf. Not sure what his game beyond that could be.

Though it'll depend on whether she questions him and hears him out, or just decides to insta-kill him.

But seriously, so much respect for Kaiki after this. And just a little bit of pity.
Dec 21, 2013 7:30 PM

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Aw SHIIIEEEETTTTTTTTT.

Kaiki, please don't die. I've grown so fond of you.
Dec 21, 2013 7:32 PM

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Not really the last episode next weekend as we should get likely 4 episodes of Hanamonogatari at some point to finish off Monogatari Series Second Season. When, who knows? I would love for it to be January but no announcement and it will be net released so they could do so anytime. I was hoping for New Year's Eve again like Nekomonogatari Kuro but I think we would have heard by now; they announced Neko Kuro on December 7th so we are two weeks too late and it seems Sword Art Online's special probably got that spot.
hpulleyDec 21, 2013 7:36 PM
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hpulley said:
Not really the last episode next weekend as we should get likely 4 episodes of Hanamonogatari at some point to finish off Monogatari Series Second Season. When, who knows? I would love for it to be January but no announcement and it will be net released so they could do so anytime. I was hoping for New Year's Eve again like Nekomonogatari Kuro but I think we would have heard by now.


Ah damn, I always forget about Hana. But true, New Year's Eve is very unlikely. I guess the OVAs/ONAs are going to come out when the spring season starts. But who knows.
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Dec 21, 2013 7:48 PM

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Welp, does Kaiki have something else up his sleeve?
Dec 21, 2013 7:48 PM

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Welp, does Kaiki have something else up his sleeve?
I'd imagine he does. It's Kaiki we're talking about, there's no way the traffic accident lie was his trump card.
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Dec 21, 2013 7:52 PM

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It is Kaiki. He could be simply telling such a weak lie with the intention of convincing Nadeko that he is an awful liar.
Dec 21, 2013 7:53 PM
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hpulley said:
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Did they actually use the term "Ex girlfriend" in the novel ? now I'm a bit confused
Did you mean when Ononoki said it near the end of their conversation? She said 昔の女 "mukashi no onna" not 昔の彼女 "mukashi no kanojo" which is the usual term for ex-girlfriend. "Mukashi no onna" usually means matronly "old woman" but it doesn't make sense for it to be "old woman" there. Prior to that she says 他人の彼女 "tanin no kanojo" someone else's girlfriend, referring to Senjougahara being Koyomi's girlfriend so it was odd that Ononoki particularly said onna instead of kanojo and if you listen, she said exactly what is in the book. I think it actually meant, "girl from the past" here. At any rate, Kaiki says that's a misunderstanding in his next lines so whatever she meant, Kaiki thinks she is mistaken. Page 229, Koimonogatari light novel, near the end of chapter 34.


thanks.. so it was a translation mistake ?(I watched commie subs).. that's why I wanted to know about the novel.
Ex GF was weird because that would mean they were a real couple in the past.."girl from the past" sounds better.

kaiki is a bit tsundere sometimes,so I don't now when he is telling the truth or lying, but he did ask a lot about gahara-koyomi relationship.
Dec 21, 2013 7:56 PM

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Oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh. This cliffhanger! The music was simply perfectly done during the Ononoki conversation... Just kept things so tense.. oh gosh.. I can hardly stand this cliffhanger! This episode just had a magnificent build-up feeling.
Dec 21, 2013 8:21 PM
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hpulley said:
MisterXX said:
Did they actually use the term "Ex girlfriend" in the novel ? now I'm a bit confused
Did you mean when Ononoki said it near the end of their conversation? She said 昔の女 "mukashi no onna" not 昔の彼女 "mukashi no kanojo" which is the usual term for ex-girlfriend. "Mukashi no onna" usually means matronly "old woman" but it doesn't make sense for it to be "old woman" there. Prior to that she says 他人の彼女 "tanin no kanojo" someone else's girlfriend, referring to Senjougahara being Koyomi's girlfriend so it was odd that Ononoki particularly said onna instead of kanojo and if you listen, she said exactly what is in the book. I think it actually meant, "girl from the past" here. At any rate, Kaiki says that's a misunderstanding in his next lines so whatever she meant, Kaiki thinks she is mistaken. Page 229, Koimonogatari light novel, near the end of chapter 34.


Thanks for the clarification, that bit confused me a bit as well.

What a great episode, really looking forward to the conclusion. Kaiki and Hanekawa have both been fantastic these last episodes.
Dec 21, 2013 8:35 PM

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You're welcome. Any time, any line... I have all the books from this series and am always happy to look stuff up. Helps to jog my memory as well. Hard to believe this book came out 2 years ago!
Dec 21, 2013 8:50 PM

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HE BLEW IT!!! Oh God, it's gonna be an interesting ending to the season.
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Dec 21, 2013 8:52 PM

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This has to be part of Kaiki's plan. I hope Kaiki will pull out a trap card.
My body is ready for the next episode.
This arc has been sooo amazing.

But i really want to know whats in the closest.
Dec 21, 2013 9:15 PM

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DAT CLIFFHANGER.
KAIKI DON'T YOU DARE TO DIE.

I'm looking forward to the climax btw.

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Well fuck the closet thing, I don't care about it anyway.

Pretty much what I've started to think after this episode. My worries now go to Kaiki.
Dec 21, 2013 9:27 PM
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Uh Oh, looks like Kaiki spoke too soon....I still wanna know what he sees in Nadeko's closet.
Dec 21, 2013 9:29 PM

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Soooooo... she did not fall for it.

Great episode!!!
Dec 21, 2013 9:45 PM
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Yet another amazing episode! There are not enough words in a dictionary to describe this series :) I can't wait til next week, yet I certainly don't want the season to end! SHAFT has done a fantastic job. The last season better come out within a year.

AND WTF is in that closet!?!?
Dec 21, 2013 9:55 PM

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Nadeko best kamisama. Another brilliant episode.
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Dec 21, 2013 10:03 PM

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Yet another amazing episode. Loved the revelation about Kaiki towards the end.
Also great OST.
Dec 21, 2013 10:31 PM

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rip kaiki
Dec 21, 2013 10:34 PM

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Well, considering being stabbed through the heart and the rest of his body multiple times by Nadeko on multiple occasions didn't kill Araragi, the lie that he died by a freaking car accident seemed farfetched...not to mention the immortal vampire Shinobu who's been through just as worse situations, if not maybe more. They've never had a god kill them for real before; that's only because Nadeko chose not to, and instead wait.

The first way I can think Kaiki can get out of this seemingly dire situation, is if he adds something like: "--is what my wish is for, therefore they cannot die yet." But then that would only apply to car accidents. The remaining way I can think of is that some character comes in to intervene and save the day...but that sounds lame...unless the writers used it efficiently. That's just my 2 cents.
Dec 21, 2013 10:34 PM

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Kaiki and the opening are the best. I really enjoy watching Monogatari lately ^^
Dec 21, 2013 10:35 PM

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oh snap...
Dec 21, 2013 10:39 PM

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Enjoyed his conversations with the 3 girls, especially the one with Yotsugi
Kaki has been so awesome so far
Such obvious foreshadowing :o
Yeah.. Nadeko can't have been that stupid to fall for a lie like that.
How will he turn this around, if he can at all..
Last episode :(
Looking forward to it regardless!
Dec 21, 2013 10:42 PM

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That was a great episode, dat ending..

Just wondering if Nadeko actually knew Kaiki was trying to deceive her, or did she just think that due to her massive trust issues.
Dec 21, 2013 11:07 PM

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I knew Nadeko would be able to tell. I wondered what's Kaiki gonna do now.

Also that Kanbaru foreshadowing, isn't it about Hanamonogatari which will come out next year?
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Dec 21, 2013 11:19 PM

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NNNNOOOO D: dat ending cause my heart beat to rise
Dec 21, 2013 11:47 PM

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Kaiki, you dun goofed.
Dec 22, 2013 12:21 AM
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OMG SHIT JUST GOT REAL
Dec 22, 2013 12:53 AM

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oh shit shit shit shit D:
Dat feel when an Anime hits you inside.
Dec 22, 2013 12:56 AM
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hi people
can someone help me and PM me (basically message me) what exactly are kaiki's thoughts at around 13:55 in this episode? I could not find subtitles and wondered if someone had/can translate from japanese to english.

Thank you!
Dec 22, 2013 1:03 AM

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"That nonsense is of no use whatsoever." What's in the closet is unimportant.Still want to knows what's in it though.



It is unimportant, but it sort-of helped Kaiki in some way.
Dec 22, 2013 2:02 AM

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Oh snap, Nadeko isn't that easy to deceive after all. A shocking revelation, SHE'S SMART!!! lol
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Dec 22, 2013 2:11 AM

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Feel the wrath of the obesess, seductive, amazingly adorable snake go...

I mean... Feel the wrath of the little psycho bitch Kaiki.
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Dec 22, 2013 2:16 AM

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Shiiiiiiiiiiiit.

Lol at Hitagi going full tsundere at the phone.

Kaiki was a good guy from the start? Damn. His conversation with "Yeah Yeah Peace" Ononoki was intense.

What the hell is in the closet anyways?

Omg. Nadeko saw through Kaiki's lie. I hope Kaiki doesn't die :x
Dec 22, 2013 2:20 AM
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Oh poor Kaiki. You're about to feel the wrath of a yandere goddess. Unless like Baldrick you have a "cunning plan" that my tiny brain cannot fathom at this stage.

I'm getting the strange feeling that Gaen means trouble for Araragi in more ways than one. I wouldn't be surprised if she's the one who facilitated Nadeko's knowledge of Kaiki's intentions.

And that OP, It's one of the finest OP's ever.
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Dec 22, 2013 2:45 AM

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I bet Kaiki wanted to make her think he was going to deceive her and is going deceive her by using his first deceive as a decoy. :P

I am pretty sure he still has some more plans up his sleeve.
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He failed huh. GG
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Dec 22, 2013 4:12 AM
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Gaen and Kaiki both make note that they intend on meeting Kanbaru. This is has to be of some relevance at the moment. It seems clear to me that Ougi is meddling and Gaen is not at all feeling it. Kaiki doesn't necessarily know of Ougi's existence, but Kanbaru is still an important figure to him. Why is that I wonder.

Brilliant of Hanekawa to suspect her. Ougi's mere appearance prompted questions. Her eyes are just voids. *shivers* Also, to poke at one of the theories I see a lot, If she is simply the anomaly nullifier that was after Hachikuji...why is she still there?

Shinobu also had to know about the charm, why did she not think to just convince Araragi to let her become a real god then? I cannot imagine Shinobu not being able to assess the situation in their town to be dire.

Ononoki and Episode running this errand for Gaen has amounted to nothing by sideline mystery up until this point, but at least Ononoki has helped.
Dec 22, 2013 4:37 AM

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Gaen and Kaiki both make note that they intend on meeting Kanbaru. This is has to be of some relevance at the moment. It seems clear to me that Ougi is meddling and Gaen is not at all feeling it. Kaiki doesn't necessarily know of Ougi's existence, but Kanbaru is still an important figure to him. Why is that I wonder.

Brilliant of Hanekawa to suspect her. Ougi's mere appearance prompted questions. Her eyes are just voids. *shivers* Also, to poke at one of the theories I see a lot, If she is simply the anomaly nullifier that was after Hachikuji...why is she still there?

Shinobu also had to know about the charm, why did she not think to just convince Araragi to let her become a real god then? I cannot imagine Shinobu not being able to assess the situation in their town to be dire.

Ononoki and Episode running this errand for Gaen has amounted to nothing by sideline mystery up until this point, but at least Ononoki has helped.


Interesting thought. It seems that you have grasped all that plot without missing important things.

Well, to me, Second Season onward, Nisio has been going all out BBC's Sherlock style with, of course, his own kind of rendition.
Dec 22, 2013 5:29 AM

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Well, to me, Second Season onward, Nisio has been going all out BBC's Sherlock style with, of course, his own kind of rendition.
Funny you say that as one of my favorite parts of the SKIPPED first chapter of Nekomonogatari Shiro was the stuff about Sherlock Holmes and Watson. I was so happy they included that monologue as the bonus audio for Nekomonogatari Shiro volume 1! Without hearing/reading that I guess you can still detect it yourself but it was meant to be obvious, in your mind as you read Second Season. Too bad they chose to save it for bonus audio, Shaft...

As for Gaen and Ougi... wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...
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hpulley said:
yukaru00 said:
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Well, to me, Second Season onward, Nisio has been going all out BBC's Sherlock style with, of course, his own kind of rendition.
Funny you say that as one of my favorite parts of the SKIPPED first chapter of Nekomonogatari Shiro was the stuff about Sherlock Holmes and Watson. I was so happy they included that monologue as the bonus audio for Nekomonogatari Shiro volume 1! Without hearing/reading that I guess you can still detect it yourself but it was meant to be obvious, in your mind as you read Second Season. Too bad they chose to save it for bonus audio, Shaft...

As for Gaen and Ougi... wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...


Haha you too, got that right.
Also, I am talking as the whole, the Second and the Third Season.
Nisio obviously went Sherlock in Owari. It reminds me of The Study in Pink (BBC).
Dec 22, 2013 5:45 AM
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Who is Rouka Nomachi? Kaiki said that he was an acquaintance of him and met several times in different town. Could it be Ougi? the mysterious girl.
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Dec 22, 2013 5:53 AM

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Who is Rouka Nomachi? Kaiki said that he was an acquaintance of him and met several times in different town. Could it be Ougi? the mysterious girl.

A character that will be introduce later, maybe in the next episode or in Hanamonogatari.
Dec 22, 2013 8:01 AM

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Holy fucking shit that ending was so intense I can't believe it.

I expected it but I can't believe it.

Next episode will most likely make this AotY.
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Dec 22, 2013 8:10 AM

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Seems Kaiki's plan wasn't as easy carried out as he thought it would be well rather obvious with the way he put it.
He underestimated his target it seems especially judging from the cliffhanger the question is what will happen and with will happen to Araragi and Senjougahara.
Guess we have one more episode to look forward to a shame it will end already would have licked to see more.
Dec 22, 2013 8:46 AM

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