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Avato-chan said: Ao should die =_= ,im REALY hating this anime,im only watching it for the sake of the origional being one of my favorites! ...Why? kyp275 said: twonline said: I think, the Eureka+Renton scribbling on the moon is not visible from the position they are on the earth. Or they erased the scribbling on the moon. As I recall from previous series, at the end when the Scrub Coral is about to leave from the earth, they said they will come back latter. Sorry, In case you didn't know, the Moon always have the same side facing the Earth since it's tidally locked to Earth. And no, it doesn't matter where on Earth you're looking at the Moon from, the only difference you can see is the orientation of the phases. As for erasing the engraving... one, they do not seem to possess the technology to go beyond low-earth orbit, much less the capability to engineer away half of the entire surface of the Moon , and two, why in the world would they bother?! and before you start talking about the half of the Scub Coral that said they may return one day, you may want to address the OTHER half ot he Scub Coral that REMAINED on Earth. You know, the ones you saw still covering half of planet Earth in E7:AO...oh wait Nothing wrong with theorizing, but I think you're too hung up on your idea of what a "direct sequel" is that you're trying to find every little things that might support your theory while ignoring the rest of the picture. Thank you for being one of the only people in this thread to vindicate me; a lot of people seem to really be lacking imagination and comprehension of the information that has been given. I keep bringing up these discrepancies, but they seem to keep being ignored. And to FURTHER delve into the whole moon-argument, not only is it tidally-locked and always having the same side facing the Earth, it is precisely the side that can be seen FROM Earth that the engravings took place on, as at the very last scene of the first series, Renton's grandfather brought all the kids out at night to look at it -- and it WAS there. |
| I'm loving the soundtrack so much from just this one episode. But anyways, this series has so much potential in it; I'm just glad that they seem to be living up to the hype so far. |
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MEsoJD said: my thoughts to also glad to know they won't be pulling a Evangelion which some people were worried about this taking place in Okinawa the whole time,also does anyone know if the guy that saved Ao was in the old series he did say he was saved by it before lol just not sure if i should remember him or not.Not bad, but it's still too early to tell if this series hurts or helps the original. Anyway I'm more interested in Renton's where abouts than Eureka's. |
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| T_T.... i wanna at least 1 episode that will explain what happended to Renton and Eureka after season 1 ending T_T.... still cant get used to new cast |
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| Sorry but this series is good but its not as good Eureka 7. -Gekko State sounds cooler than Generation Blue -Gekko state had a good combo of females to males but in generation blue its too many females and not enough males -Naru (the main female character) dressing in skimpy clothing and is a damsel in distress -The main leader of Generation Blue doesn't seem to bright and relies on the on board computer to be informational leader. Compared to Holland who was a boisterous leader who had the respect of everyone. -Not enough chemistry between Ao and his grandpa Hopefully things will pick up and maybe this anime will be half its prodessor. |
GovMay 5, 2012 5:50 AM
 "What if everything in E7 Ao is the real world, and the prequel universe in Eureka 7 only was Eureka's subconscious imagination of a perfect world, due to her psychological and emotional distress from discrimination and segregation?" |
kyp275 said: twonline said: I think, the Eureka+Renton scribbling on the moon is not visible from the position they are on the earth. Or they erased the scribbling on the moon. As I recall from previous series, at the end when the Scrub Coral is about to leave from the earth, they said they will come back latter. Sorry, In case you didn't know, the Moon always have the same side facing the Earth since it's tidally locked to Earth. And no, it doesn't matter where on Earth you're looking at the Moon from, the only difference you can see is the orientation of the phases. As for erasing the engraving... one, they do not seem to possess the technology to go beyond low-earth orbit, much less the capability to engineer away half of the entire surface of the Moon , and two, why in the world would they bother?! and before you start talking about the half of the Scub Coral that said they may return one day, you may want to address the OTHER half ot he Scub Coral that REMAINED on Earth. You know, the ones you saw still covering half of planet Earth in E7:AO...oh wait Nothing wrong with theorizing, but I think you're too hung up on your idea of what a "direct sequel" is that you're trying to find every little things that might support your theory while ignoring the rest of the picture. Now I'm fucking embarrassed cuz' I forgot that only one side of the moon is visible to earth. Fucking brain not thinking clearly. Still think this is a direct sequel, and I think will be explained in forth coming episodes. (Seriously, I'm out of ideas.) Anyway I rest my case now. >.< |
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Darkdrone said: Sorry but this series is good but its not as good Eureka 7. -Gekko State sounds cooler than Generation Blue -Gekko state had a good combo of females to males but in generation blue its too many females and not enough males -Naru (the main female character) dressing in skimpy clothing and is a damsel in distress -The main leader of Generation Blue doesn't seem to bright and relies on the on board computer to be informational leader. Compared to Holland who was a boisterous leader who had the respect of everyone. -Not enough chemistry between Ao and his grandpa. -The technology advancement was ridiculous and not realistic in the time frame. I realize by shooting down this person's arguments, I may be 'feeding the troll' but I got annoyed. 1) That's your opinion. I think that Generation Blue & Pied Piper sounds cooler than Gekkostate - can you show me facts that say I am wrong about that opinion? No, because that is my own opinion. 2) We've only met half the cast of Generation Blue/Pied Piper. Just because half their team has vaginas, it detracts from the anime? I didn't know there were such blatant sexist remarks being made on MAL. I count three males, and three females. What are you smoking? Elena, Fleur, and Rebecka for the females; and Christophe, Ivica, and the hat-wearing man who saved AO in this latest episode. That's 3 for each. If you could all of the characters outside Generations blue at this point - there are more males than females. Are you going to claim it's being sexist that way too now? 3) Naru has shown that she is plenty strong, she isn't a damsel - and please tell me, how is she in distress? She had to stay on the island, AO had to leave. Naru was never in distress, she was always being looked after and safe, even if she didn't want to be. Once again, what are you smoking? 4) What main leader? Ivica or Rebecka? Or Christophe? We don't know who the main leader is yet, but none of them seem very stupid, and they all have their quirks. Just because they aren't holland, doesn't mean you can insult their characters. They're all well developed, I especially like Ivica. 5) AO isn't related to his 'grandpa' - they're strangers to one another.Of course there wouldn't be chemistry. Plus, because of the situation he's in, he doesn't even want to be around the island where his 'grandpa' lives because nobody but his grandpa accepts him. 6) Technology advancement? We still don't know when this takes place in the Eureka Seven timeline, but the technology here is even lower than it was in Eureka Seven. What are you smoking (once again)? The military uses boats instead off flying bases, even the Generation Blue ship is a much smaller craft that only goes sub-orbital. None of the technology in this one surpasses anything in Eureka Seven. Let me know if I missed any of your completely retarded arguments. I'd be glad to shoot more of them down if needed. |
BRSxIgnitionMay 5, 2012 10:33 AM
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Episode was alright 7/10. |
| nice ep. We finally get confirmation on Eureka and the trapar hippie movement gave off some of the vibe of E7. Liking this a lot so far. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Really enjoyed this episode, some really great art from Bones. Does anybody know why Renton hasn't been mentioned at all? Ao's constantly talking about his mom but there's been no mention of his dad. |
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| Its just starting... Ao feels more mature than Rekton, but rekton was more interesting Music is good... Eureka 7 was better than this new.. hope this one can surpess the 7 Eureka is still slow as always at advancing the story Eureka 7 had lot more interesting characters, only the kids were annoying This E Ao ep 4 feels the are some parts getting cut/skipped, but nothing chaotic 24 episodes is not enough... hope there will be more 24 episodes after this. Gotta finish Eureka 7, im still at ep 33 There were Eureka Seven hatters, and they still exists... If you haven't watched Eureka Seven, you better, as soon as possible... its a great anime and will help you a lot understanding this E AO. Going and i ll continue watching this AO knowing that i ll have to re-watch it again lol. |
huntxMay 5, 2012 6:26 PM
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| good episode , and seems it will be like eureka seven |
| The only problem I had with this episode is how fast the fight scene between the large secret and Ao went. Naturally they needed to show the overpowered nature of Nirvash for the new viewers, but I think they could have stretched it out for another minute at least. That being said, I love this anime so much and I am glad that my favourite mecha anime finally got the sequel it deserved. Looking forward to hearing more about Eureka, and can't wait for Friday morning when the subs come out for the next episode. |
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MEsoJD said: Not bad, but it's still too early to tell if this series hurts or helps the original. Anyway I'm more interested in Renton's where abouts than Eureka's. If this ends up being set in an alternate universe or in the past.....Then honestly it'll hurt the original for me....And the original will have ended for me. I will merely treat this one as a spin-off. |
WAHa_06x36 said: Ahri said: If this ends up being set in an alternate universe or in the past.....Then honestly it'll hurt the original for me....And the original will have ended for me. I will merely treat this one as a spin-off. "Ends up"? The first screen of the first episode said straight out it is set in the past. Almost every part of the setting shown so far has been confirming that. I really don't understand how you could actually watch the show and not see this. It's not some deeply hidden mystery, they are saying it straight out all the time. Uhhh. No. It's not. The year in Eureka Seven's time was NEVER said. So there. Do not make me use very unfriendly words. Because i will. So that really doesn't tell me anything. So you just shut your mouth, and stop acting like you know it all. |
WAHa_06x36 said: Well, if you want to tell yourself the series is lying to you, then I guess there's little that can be done about that. Well! I'm glad you see it my way then. |
Ahri said: WAHa_06x36 said: Ahri said: If this ends up being set in an alternate universe or in the past.....Then honestly it'll hurt the original for me....And the original will have ended for me. I will merely treat this one as a spin-off. "Ends up"? The first screen of the first episode said straight out it is set in the past. Almost every part of the setting shown so far has been confirming that. I really don't understand how you could actually watch the show and not see this. It's not some deeply hidden mystery, they are saying it straight out all the time. Uhhh. No. It's not. The year in Eureka Seven's time was NEVER said. So there. Do not make me use very unfriendly words. Because i will. So that really doesn't tell me anything. So you just shut your mouth, and stop acting like you know it all. There's mounds of information thrown at the viewer to tell you that it's nowhere near the same timeline, if not the same universe as the original series; the vastly inferior technology seen in AO compared to the first series, among tons of other discrepancies pretty much cement that SOMETHING different is going on. The year doesn't even need to be stated -- it's just blatantly obvious. You can treat it as a spin-off if you want, even though it canonically isn't. |
| Nice episode, I was kinda disappointed they left Naru behind but I suppose she had to stay due to her illness. I hope they still show Naru quite a bit I quite like her character. |
KingOfNoodles said: Decent episode. Ao finally departs on a journey. WHERE THE HELL IS RENTON?! I don't believe that he simply just left Eureka after all that happened in the prequel. I want to know what happened to him. Eureka falling into their dimension is likely the result of a disastrous event or accident; I doubt that Renton and his affiliations simply have access to traversing dimensions, let alone the right one; Eureka's inherent connection to the Scub Coral is almost certainly the reason she was pulled through. And yeah, I'm pretty much sticking with the inter-dimensional travel theory unless new, conflicting information comes to light. |
| @BRSxIgnition You really put a nail in the coffin there. Agreed for 1-5, but for (6) here's my take on it: Yes, SOME of the technology we've seen in AO has been far inferior to that of E7 ex you mentioned battleships < floating fortresses but couter-examples exist and the technology cannot be said to be strictly inferior or superior to that of the original series: - in the end of E7 we see Renton's GP and the kids taking a train/tram < floating vehicles/trains of AO.. - Gen Bleu's main ship > to the Gekko ship I say NEUTRALITY exists however: - hover cars floating over regular motorized vehicles. - gen Bleu's plamfacing over the fighter jets going against the secret. - the resurgence of trapar energy exploitation/use - heck, the NIRVASH is still there More examples will be revealed BECAUSE I believe one of the main themes we see developing in this show is that of the modern vs the old. Explanation: The end of the original series saw both 'Earths' merging together (destroys any ideas of alternate settings). We can assume the level of technology on that other earth to be inferior to the one we were accustomed to seeing E7's crew on, hence possibly the reason for discrepancies in technologies. @WTF Happened to Renton? Maybe he'll just pop up later in the show and be like, 'sup kiddo? Haven't seen you in a while... |
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| Episode seemed like a waste. Nasu is irritating. The love between Renton and her is uncomparable ._. As for everything I learnt this episode - I didn't. LOL I feel like I need to rewatch season 1 to understand everything going on :X |
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fdsfgs said: I thought the series made this obvious, but apparently it was too subtle. You are not alone. It was as clear as day but a lot of people here probably watched the series 6 years ago and forgot most of it. I just finished watching the original series this week and it all makes sense. All we need now is some confirmation about the different ongoing theories. WAHa_06x36 said: "Ends up"? The first screen of the first episode said straight out it is set in the past. Almost every part of the setting shown so far has been confirming that. The concept of "past" and "present" is meaningless if we are talking about different dimensions. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
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WAHa_06x36 said: sspit said: - Elena: "I can be replaced" - evangelion, quote of Rei, unfitting and forced, it sounded like stupid person misusing intelligent quote he doesnt understand Well, yes, that is the point, she is a terrible otaku who keeps quoting anime nobody else cares about. It is perfectly in character. i know but the way its done screams cheap, like they designed the character that way so they can insert those things in there, not the opposite - BIG difference Riftguardian said: Gekko State: nice catch, where is the first picture from? so there might be slight possibility of Gekkostate forming after all? |
| I got the first image from the end of the first Eureka ending theme. |
| I thought the Nirvash evolved into a higher being and left along with the Scab Coral, so why the need to become a machine again and be piloted? Also I still don't get anything yet...so far i know Eureka is Ao's mother, but it doesn't make sense...what about the three kids who were praying for "mama" to come back in the last episode of Eureka Seven? She abandon them? This series is a sequel due to the fact that Eureka is somehow related to the plot and the Nirvash... Why is the Scab Coral attacking? or so it seems? I thought it wanted to live with the humans and whatnot, hence the reason Eureka and other Coralians exist in human forms... Too early for me to say, but with only 24 episodes and A LOT to explain since this is a so called sequel I hope they don't screw up the plot |
triforcebih said: Rykimaruh said: I thought the Nirvash evolved into a higher being and left along with the Scab Coral, so why the need to become a machine again and be piloted? Also I still don't get anything yet...so far i know Eureka is Ao's mother, but it doesn't make sense...what about the three kids who were praying for "mama" to come back in the last episode of Eureka Seven? She abandon them? This series is a sequel due to the fact that Eureka is somehow related to the plot and the Nirvash... Why is the Scab Coral attacking? or so it seems? I thought it wanted to live with the humans and whatnot, hence the reason Eureka and other Coralians exist in human forms... Too early for me to say, but with only 24 episodes and A LOT to explain since this is a so called sequel I hope they don't screw up the plot after watching 9 eps im pretty sure that isn't even the real nirvash :| it's prolly a full machine mecha made special due to eureka's involvement Calling it the Nirvash has to have some kind of relation with the previous one...otherwise why bother call it Nirvash? |
| Anyone else think Naru would go with Ao? Seems kind of pointless for her to stay. and i'm in the time travel camp. I think this is in the past for some reason. |
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WolfWood37 said: Anyone else think Naru would go with Ao? Seems kind of pointless for her to stay. and i'm in the time travel camp. I think this is in the past for some reason. She has a home and a biological family; she can't leave her way of life as easily as Ao can. |
DangerrAug 10, 2012 5:19 AM
| a quick question about this episode if someone can help explain to me who this character is. thanks, i'm a tad bit confused right now |
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Angel_Beats said: a quick question about this episode if someone can help explain to me who this character is. thanks, i'm a tad bit confused right now I can't remember his name, and I'd look it up if he were a more prominent character, but he isn't; I wouldn't get too wrapped up in it. If you're asking his connection to Gen Bleu and Ao, he recalled that the Nirvash Ao is flying was what saved Okinawa from the scub burst ten years prior, so he feels he owes a sort of debt, and found repayment by helping Ao. |
DangerrDec 7, 2012 11:34 PM
| fantastic responses, thanks all! ^o^ |
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| Need more fanservice/boobies for sure.. but I don't have any urge to drop it yet, so that's a good sign. Let's hope it doesn't disappoint like 90% of the reviews. |
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| Pretty nice development! Let's see what happens next! |
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