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https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=570335
Was glad to see that you're still alive :D
Still, despite all the hate stacked against AO, I think that all the time I spend agonizing over the long posts I make in favor of AO is worth it. Plus, I could always use some practice in making better arguments, especially with anime and a fresh piece of work like AO.
I've always been the type that just watched shows and kept my opinions to myself. Over the years, I have visited the forums here to get some opinions on certain series/episodes, but I was always an observer. I missed my chance on Guilty Crown, and to a certain extent the discussion of AO as it aired. Well, better late than never, I say. Simply put, I got sick and tired of standing on the sidelines and watching everyone bash the series ("E7 has no sequel," "Ao erased himself and made everything invalid so AO was pointless," etc.). I suppose that's why we're both here, to some extent.
I could say the same for you. I do the best I can to make logical/coherent arguments, clearly differentiate between objective/subjective analysis, and respect other opinions. However, I cannot guarantee that I will always free of grammatical errors. I suppose old habits die hard; I rarely edit/check for errors in my writings immediately, which is why you'll likely never see a post of mine without signs of me editing it. In any case, I look forward to our future meetings and discussions; I'm sure our paths will cross in the future outside of the AO forums.
I definitely agree that the character building was a weaker element of the show. I think it focused a lot on the plot and the setting and kind of ignored it a bit too much (even if there is faults in those elements).
I think several people kind of admitted it themselves by saying they probably wouldn't hate the show so much if it wasn't "Eureka Seven". It's a shame as the success of the show may be affected by this, and we may never get any more exposition to the world and universe. Though guess we can only hope.
It did surprise me with its boldness too. And like you said on the thread, it certainly wrapped up more story threads than I expected. The secrets are probably the only plot-hole that is really bothering me, but oh well.
I think most people have overlooked that the entire sequel is based around the implication of Eureka / Renton's decisions really. But guess they need to find an excuse to hate on it.
Yeah I can see that, although I can see Truth going out simply because of his own madness as opposed to anything that the characters can do (unless Ao is able to somehow magically get the "archetype" for his Nirvash, not sure how that would work without some major ass-pulls though).
For me, the moment when AO's story looked superior in my eyes was back in episode 12, that episode knocked me for six when I saw the Gekko again; however I think if I was to have a complaint about AO's storyline, it's the whole time-bending and Universe jumping mechanic that the show has going on...it just feels so lacking - especially since that's probably not going to get answered within the next two episodes.
I can understand why people think the execution is lacking, and I'll agree, at times the writing has been a let down for me, but I still think the concepts and ideas behind the show are better than those in the original series. Having said that, the original series IS superior to AO and I'll be first to admit that, I don't think it deserves anywhere near as much hate as it's getting though.
Oh I'm aware that the characters aren't as fleshed out anywhere near as much as they should be, but I don't think it's a show-breaker in this particular instance. Would I like it if the characters were more developed than they are? Yes, probably so, but I think if they were going to develop the characters, the series length would have been longer as well (especially as they would have been able to answer the questions a hell of a lot better than they actually are going to, unless they're able to spectacularly blow everyone's mind). A season 2 would probably be better in the end.
I went into the show with a very similar mindset, that is, I only loved the show out of nostalgia as opposed to anything the show offered me on an on objective level (having said that, I'm going to re-watch it pretty soon to see if I can still find the show good); I was also worried that BONES would pull a Gonzo, and horribly mess up a sequel to a good show - although you may be aware of this statement already assuming that you've seen the post I put on the November conclusion post.
With that said, I'm really enjoying it, I agree that the story is convoluted as all hell, I personally don't believe that they can answer each mystery the series has to offer without giving up really rushed explanations (and in my eyes I see the break as the writers realizing this, and spending the entirety of October and most of November figuring out how they should end this...assuming they don't decide to go for the option of making a sequel, which would be a rather large troll).
Personally, I'm finding Truth to be a pretty good villain who also seems to be the only character to have had any real character development over the series - I also believe quite strongly that the story of AO is superior to that of the original series in terms of execution and being able to throw me for a loop each time an episode airs (I've given up on trying to come up with theories on the show, I'll just get them disproved every time thanks to its logic). I understand that people want character development, but in this particular instance, I think the story wins out in terms of importance.
What are your thoughts on that anyway? (assuming my rather arrogant sounding little post doesn't totally scare you away and you reply).
But thanks for taking the time, appreciated :)
Now, T&B S2 with an increase in production value and including the same cast has a really nice ring to it, so I hope it'll happen.
One week to suffer... I wish it would be saturday already. Then again, at the same time, I don't want it to end just yet... :(
Ahaha, thanks for compliments! Every cool person apparently has Wild Tiger as their avatar ;D
Yeah, I'm kind of melancholy there is just one episode to go since I've grown to like the series more than I ever imagined. It's probably because of the very likeable characters and their development; I'm still so happy T&B doesn't have some whiny teenage boy/girl as main. I'm also cheering for a second season, even though I want this arc to be finished properly (which, judging from the current plot development, they're fortunately going to do). I'm wondering a bit how they are going to execute the next season from the way the show is now heading but I guess I'll wait and see.
So anyway, I'm curious what you did/n't like in #24? As for me, the episode was otherwise nice but there was a couple of things that rather bugged me: how the spike rooms ended up being just "decorative threat" which led us to > other heroes didn't really show their skills (other than strong belief in each other, which is of course great too). I was also mildly irked how Kaede seems to be so... convenient. I like her as character but she is/was a little too much "the handy plot mover".
Kotetsu's (fake?) death caught me totally off guard. (My reaction was something like 'NOOOOO!'.) Like you, I believe Satou is trolling... and he better be. Kotetsu's death wouldn't really benefit the plot that much and I have this personal reason him being my favorite character... Yet, it's too bad I can't stop this lingering omnious "what if" feeling, I'm just that type of a person... ack. Nonetheless, I must admit, I love the way the show handles clichees. It kind of... takes them as it's own, naturally.
(Also, haven't really mentioned it but I'm sorry if my English is bad at times. I usually type pretty fast what I want to say and I tend to notice many mistakes after sending >.>;)
Er, long comment is long? ^_^;
Yeah, I know very well what you mean - I might seem like an active watcher now but it's because of my summer vacation (which means more leisure time). A few months ago I had about a year long break from watching anime, it wasn't like I wouldn't have liked to watch anime or wouldn't had time but I just didn't feel like it. Anyway, I don't think the amount matters at all as long as the watching is enjoyable. (Though I have some experience of forcing myself to watch series... painful, let me say xD) On the other hand, sometimes I found myself wondering if I'm an overly picky person when it comes to anime... oh well. :D
And when I'm on it, mind if I add you as a friend...?