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| This is my face when I am watching it 0_o All i understand is that BRS is a bad guy >.<" |
| Good Story itself but I don't like it when I need to read explanations in order to understand what's going on. 3/5 |
YurikoRaine said: Good Story itself but I don't like it when I need to read explanations in order to understand what's going on. 3/5 Same Goes For Me. That's Why I'm Going To Rate This Series 7 Or Below Whatever The Ending Will Be. This Series Seems Not Open For Those Who Haven't Played The Game Or Reading Explanations Is Necessary. That Makes Worse For The Series. |
TennoujiMar 9, 2012 5:14 AM
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Jori-kun said: I know , right ? I feel stupid[maybe I am] when Im not understanding it and gotta read to find out about the plot.Its stupid. I bet you aren't, it's just a bad scripting ): |
| Happy to know that I wasn't the only one being terribly confused xD If only they made it a bit easier to get on stuff than having to search arnd xD *goes ti learn more abt what happened* |
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| I suppose it was okay there, though I'm still curious what will happen with Mato next. |
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1idd0kun said: Here's an explanation of the plot: Yuu is trapped in the Underworld. STR is trapped in the Real World. Mato is suppressing some issues from her past, so BRS is getting more and more violent and stronger. BRS is set out to destroy the Underworld. Saya connects with BGS in order to protect Yuu in the Underworld. Saya tries to strengthen other avatars (by messing up with the real persons' feelings) so that these can be a match to try and stop BRS from destroying the Underworld. Everything backfired when not even fully powered Dead Master could deal with BRS, and due to Mato merging with BRS and going Insane now everything seems lost. I was always confused by the plot in this but that just cleared it up for me... Thanks =) |
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1idd0kun said: Here's an explanation of the plot: Yuu is trapped in the Underworld. STR is trapped in the Real World. Indeed but what is the genesis and the meaning of all this? Why the real Yuu is in the otherworld and Str is trapped in the real world? Maybe more info will be added in the next episodes and the explanation why all this happening. :) 4/5 |
Fn76Mar 9, 2012 6:11 AM
| Black Rock Shooter evolved! Overall, an enjoyable episode though the melodrama is really getting on my nerves. But the action scenes are intense enough to ease the annoyance most of the time. |
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| Really good episode. Glad that the focus is not on BRS and Mato and not on Yomi anymore. Next week fight is going to be epic! 5/5 |
YurikoRaine said: This Series Seems Not Open For Those Who Haven't Played The Game Or Reading Explanations Is Necessary. That Makes Worse For The Series. I haven't played the game and the anime isn't that hard to understand. sadia604 said: Wait wait wait... I thought Mato said that her and Yuu were childhood friends and that they had always been together? And what's with the timeline? Yeah, so she /was/ aging.. At least in Mato's head. Hm. OS_Christina706 said: Really good episode. Glad that the focus is not on BRS and Mato and not on Yomi anymore. I'm not T-T Hope Yomi will show up for more than 10 seconds next time. Then again, she's not too relevant until Mato wakes up. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| I must say Saya really play a good villain, I thought she is plotting something but it turns out she did all this for Yuu |
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| Now all the villian of Saya was thrown away and she's just someone trying to protect her dear friend, just awesome. .__. Now i just don't get her motives, why did she awaken Dead Master? I'd think it was for BRS to kill her in order for Yomi to be released and stuff. But killing Dead Master made BRS into IBRS and we clearly saw Saya didn't want that and is trying to stop it. Next confusing thing is Yuu/STR x Saya relations. If we assumed Yuu switched places with STR it could sounds convincing, even with STR saying she wants to push all the pain on Yuu - but why would Saya and everyone keep calling STR by the name Yuu while by "that girl" referring to actual Yuu? Besides when Yuu carries Mato to Saya's house she clearly tells Yuu that she wants to protect "that girl" and that makes the theory impossible. On the other hand it'd mean that Saya never actually met STR so why would she care to protect her? Man, this shit is confusing. They better explain it all. |
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| Epic episode is epic.... Figma Insane Black Rock Shooter with Blu-ray box set Limited edition ~ PRE-ORDERED! |
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| Wooow so she is not really really bad but it's doing it for someone else how original I must say at least most of episode without emo so that it plus and some decent fights and they needed only 6 episodes to get into level of being decent show - but good they got here and this time no square faces in real world Give me back my Thermae Romae! |
| I hope that Mato will wake up. D: |
| Was not expecting the whole "evil BRS" thing. The action scenes were awesome, though. Did I hear Miki Itou as Saya's mother Only 2 episodes left...I'm not getting my hopes up for some epic plot twist. |
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| Here's my views of Episode 6. C: |
| So Saya and Yu knew each other from before. But it's so weird how Yu looks the same as when she had met with Saya and now when she's with Mato in the same school. Now Mato's trapped inside that violet flame Black Rock Shooter, Yomi had changed completely after her other self was defeated and there's an upcoming battle next episode Black Rock Shooter vs Yu's other self. Two more episodes to go... 9/10 |
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| Looks like Yuu is the center of that weird world. That answered a lot of questions, nice episode and a touching scene at the end. 4/5 |
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| That wasn't bad, but way too many things to answer in 2 episodes... And god damn constipated faces. 3/5 |
| Great epsode I hope Yomi and Mato are going to make up at the end of the anime. |
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| For anyone still confused, please look back 1 or 2 pages and see my large post summarizing the plot points in Episodes 5 and 6. It really isn't that hard to understand if you pay attention and piece things together slowly... If you jump to conclusions, you'll just get more confused - kinda like the people that were in here earlier blabbering about how somehow Yuu isn't human or something. I mean, really? |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
1idd0kun said: All that considering, it's painfully obvious that she isn't Yuu, that she isn't even human, that she is STR. Please stop spreading your idiot. It's contagious. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| When does Dragon Slayer come into the fray? :c |
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| Mato, WHAT-HAVE-YA-DONE-TO-B★RS!? D< It hurts you and B★RS too (I guess... Or BRS hasn't got any feelings? Ó,o ) Opening was changed, yaay~ So Saya didn't make this world - it was Yuu. Lol, I like Saya much more than before! And I really like STR's fight style. Yomi isn't emo now. Let us rejoice! xD lmao! But she doesn't remember Mato. I'll say it again - This is MADNESS! I dunno why, but I really REALLY like this series. ^^; |
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| This anime has to pull the greatest trick in the history of anime for my score to go above 4. Looking forward to seeing if they can do it or not! |
BRSxIgnition said: This following statement is in addition to my last post on the plot details of the TV series, which I have copied here: BRSxIgnition said: SPOILERS UP TO CHAPTER 5 BELOW Saya pretty much has a twisted operation going on. She uses her manipulation (see: "Counselling") and 'coffee' to scare these girls into developing huge mental issues (See: Yomi) By doing this, she is able to link them to the bodies she 'grows' in the dark world as Black Gold Saw. Black Rock Shooter is able to 'free' these people from their sorrows and grievances in the real world by killing their other-self in the Dark World. When a 'other self' dies, all memories of the person's issues vanish, including the cause, the reaction, and any details. This happened with Kagami/Chariot. Black Rock Shooter (Mato) is slowly being destroyed mentally by Saya's Manipulation, and physically by the other girls in the Dark World. Strength/Yuu seems to have the same link Black Gold Saw/Saya has between the two worlds. This will likely be explained more within the next few episodes. They know about each world, and they can control 'themselves' in both worlds. STR/Yuu sides with BRS/Mato, by trying to help her solve their problems without the use of killing Dead Master. Dead Master/Yomi essentially sides with Black Gold Saw/Saya unwillingly, by giving into Saya's Manipulation. The only thing that's really left unexplained at this point, is that we don't know how Saya and Yuu have control over their other selves in the Dark World. It's quite possible that they've simply had them long enough, and they've linked. It seems like Mato is going to link with BRS, but I can't wait to see how, seeing as how Black Rock Shooter has essentially lost her mind and gone.. well, Insane. I've always wondered how iBRS fit into the universe, and - while this is entirely my own hypothesis - I believe that iBRS appears when Mato is in an extremely depressed/psychotic state when linked with BRS. Either way, I can't way - the cracked star at the end is a nice little nod at iBRS' character symbol, where: BRS = Clean ★ iBRS = Cracked ★ Dead Master = Skull Black Gold Saw = Horned Crown/Helmet Stength = Cubed Fist NEEDLESS TO SAY - SPOILERS UP TO CHAPTER 6 FOLLOW. Also, from now on, I will refer to the 'other selves' using their Full Names. (Not: BRS, BGS, STR, etc...) After watching this episode, it seems I was wrong on a few points in the above quote - namely, Saya's Intentions. While Saya's way of running her 'operation' IS indeed messed up, as I mentioned before - she is not doing it for the wrong reasons. She has two goals - one main, and one secondary. Goal #1: To preserve the 'other' world and protect Strength Goal#2: To alleviate people's worries through the use of the other world. The first goal is evidenced by Strength's request in the past, when she asked Saya to 'protect her'. To clarify here: Strength and Yuu are in a full link, and able to 'switch places' at any time. This can be evidenced by her eyes when Yuu spoke with Saya in the past. Her eyes were amber - like Strength's, and her personality was darker - now however, Yuu has full control, evidenced by her brighter personality and knowledge of Strength. Saya, after learning about the other world and being awakened by Strength, begins to use it to keep Strength safe, as well as to alleviate the worries of people under her 'care'. By causing these girls under her care to "Awaken" - i.e. giving them mental stresses in our world - it attracts Black Rock Shooter to them in the 'other world'. In normal conditions, Black Rock Shooter is completely stable. She always first offers an allegiance, by holding out her hand and/or trying to help the other person, like she tried to do with both Dead Master and Kohata's 'other self'. If an allegiance can't be made, she has to kill them to keep that world stable and safe, because the "awakened selves" will only cause havoc. This is why she was forced to kill Chariot, Dead Master, and Kohata's other self in the end. By killing these, it erases their pain, and allows them to 'start over' as well as keeping the "other world" stable. Normally, because Black Rock Shooter is a stable entity in the 'other world' she wouldn't hurt anyone unless provoked - but because Yuu linked Mato into Black Rock Shooter just as she killed Dead Master, it caused her to go insane - and like Saya said in the episode: "If these girls have to endure great mental burdens, then the girls in the other world will lose what little humanity they have left." - Irino Saya This quote refers to the exact tactic she has used to 'Awaken' all of the others so far. She forces them to undergo this mental stress in the real world, to awaken them in the 'other world', in order to draw Black Rock Shooter out to help or kill them. However, this was never meant to be used with Black Rock Shooter herself. Because of Yuu's actions, Mato was linked to Black Rock Shooter, and went through a horrible 'Mental Burden' (Seeing Yomi/Dead Master dead by ‘her’ hands.) This caused Black Rock Shooter to lose all of her remaining sanity and humanity. Because Black Rock Shooter had always been the most powerful, having her lose her humanity and awaken was the last thing they wanted. Now, because Yuu has inadvertently awakened Black Rock Shooter (now insane Black Rock Shooter), insane Black Rock Shooter is going to attempt to kill everyone and everything in the 'other world'. This prompts both Saya/Black Gold Saw and Yuu/Strength to try and kill her or calm her down. Saya attempted to kill Mato in the real world, because by doing that, she would be able to instantly remove Black Rock Shooter from the 'other world' - however, as we can see, she failed, as she couldn’t do it. At this point, the plot in the two worlds is this: Real World: Because of Saya's failure in negotiations with insane Black Rock Shooter, I believe that Yuu will try to communicate with her through 'Other World': Because of Black Gold Saw's injuries, Strength is now forced to fight in her place against insane Black Rock Shooter, to restore peace to their world. Judging by the action, she has a chance, but we won't know until the next episode. I really can't wait until next week's episode, I really didn't expect much from this anime at all given its running length and names behind it, but it's so so good! I love it! Like before, let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be glad to answer them. (*The above analysis was done on one viewing + minor checks for the quotes.) Wait... but then, why did Yuu tell Saya to "protect" her? D: Why is Strength reffered to as "our" girl? by Saya and Yuu? Also, during the episode, Saya mentioned something about "Why did she (strength) protect me, after what I did to her?" Any theories on that? I'm lost! ^_^"" |
| Although this episode wasn't bad, I'm hardly impressed by the plot and characters. Especially the characters. |
Swifteh said: When does Dragon Slayer come into the fray? :c Most likely never - she was only in a single piece of art, which was a crossover between Huke's Dragon images and his BRS-themed images. She has never been linked to BRS' world, much like Black★Devil Girl and Black★Matagi. I wish those two would be linked - but maybe later on. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
AGirlInASweater said: That was STR asking her to protect her. You can tell because her attitude/dark mood and the color of her eyes when she asked.Wait... but then, why did Yuu tell Saya to "protect" her? D: AGirlInASweater said: She's reffered to as "that other girl" by both of them, because that's exactly what she is. I am assuming they haven't named her Strength yet.Why is Strength reffered to as "our" girl? by Saya and Yuu? AGirlInASweater said: She was asking why the "other girl" (Strength) protected Black Gold Saw after she betrayed her trust by thinking that Yuu/STR started the fire in her world. Also, during the episode, Saya mentioned something about "Why did she (strength) protect me, after what I did to her?" I hope this helped. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
BRSxIgnition said: AGirlInASweater said: You can tell because her attitude/dark mood and the color of her eyes when she asked.Wait... but then, why did Yuu tell Saya to "protect" her? D: I hope this helped. Ah, thanks!:) You really cleared some stuff up! Just one more question- any idea on why Yuu hasn't aged? O_O |
AGirlInASweater said: Ah, thanks!:) You really cleared some stuff up! Just one more question- any idea on why Yuu hasn't aged? O_O That could possibly be a side effect from always switching back and forth between Strength and herself. Remember how she said it? "It's not me. There's another girl. Whenever I'm bullied or something painful happens, another girl comes out, and takes all the pain instead. So it doesn't hurt me that much." - Yuu It seems that whenever she had pain, she would swap out with STR. Even so, she was in elementary school back then, and Saya was finishing high school - it makes sense that Saya would get a job while Yuu went to Middle school in the present. I think she has aged, it just doesn't show too much because she's still very young. If you look carefully though, she was indeed shorter in the flashbacks. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
BRShooter00 said: So Mato had no idea that any of this happened to Yuu? Sounds weird for two who are supposed to be inseparable friends. She became friends with her after it happened, most likely. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
BRShooter00 said: BRSxIgnition said: She became friends with her after it happened, most likely. Weren't they friends ever since kindergarten, though? Maybe they simply haven't talked about it since it happened? I have no idea. I can only understand what I've seen, not what hasn't been shown. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Really hard for me to see Mato screaming like that. I felt so bad for her. Really good episode. iBRS was pretty awesome. The backstory was decent as well. Aww....Yomi deleted Mato's messages... |
| This is starting to be a great anime finally. Too bad it's only 2 episodes to go. That being said, this episode was amazing. We got some info about Yuu/STR and Saya/BGS relationship and the reason why Saya makes girls go crazy in the real world. IMO BRS is actually trying to DESTROY he other world NOT to protect it. It would make sense that Saya would try all means possible to stop her. That also explains why the "others" she was "growing" (that bunch tha included Kohata's other) that BRS destroyed screamed something like: "She's coming." I don't remember it exactly and I'm too lazy to look it up. :-P Anyway, I still wonder why is STR so important/special. I mean, not only she is the only "other" that can freely change places with the real self, but she seems to hold some importance over the other world. I don't really believe that she would make someone enter the world and promise her protection just because she was scared (especially given her very cold nature). And Saya wanted to protect the other world from being destroyed. Maybe STR kinda hold it together. That explains why she can freely manipulate with the surroundings. Which means that destroying STR = destroying the other world = destroying (kinda) mental support to overly dramatic little girls. So far it looks like BRS will succeed and kill STR along with the rest of the other world. I just wonder what will then happen to Mato. It would be very interesting to find out that the true villain was BRS all along. :-D |
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| I now feel so bad for Kuroi. |
HikaruIzumi said: IMO BRS is actually trying to DESTROY he other world NOT to protect it. Of course - she is trying to destroy it NOW - but she wasn't before. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Amazing, much more Crap. Serious, forget this and gonna watch Haibane Renmei. The premise is pretty similar. |
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| This is insanity! Insanity . . .? BLACK ROCK SHOOTER |
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HikaruIzumi said: IMO BRS is actually trying to DESTROY he other world NOT to protect it. It would make sense that Saya would try all means possible to stop her. That also explains why the "others" she was "growing" (that bunch tha included Kohata's other) that BRS destroyed screamed something like: "She's coming." I don't remember it exactly and I'm too lazy to look it up. That is EXACTLY how I see it. BRS has been wanting to destroy it all along because Mato doesn't like the thought of others taking on their suffering. She says at the end of this episode " "The reason the girl with the blue eye fights and hurts everyone is to save us from our grief. But...But...that is wrong. That is so wrong." Like what 1idd0kun said, Saya was trying to grow others strong enough to take out BRS because she wants to destroy that world. :-P Anyway, I still wonder why is STR so important/special. I mean, not only she is the only "other" that can freely change places with the real self, but she seems to hold some importance over the other world. I don't really believe that she would make someone enter the world and promise her protection just because she was scared (especially given her very cold nature). And Saya wanted to protect the other world from being destroyed. Maybe STR kinda hold it together. That explains why she can freely manipulate with the surroundings. Which means that destroying STR = destroying the other world = destroying (kinda) mental support to overly dramatic little girls. So far it looks like BRS will succeed and kill STR along with the rest of the other world. I just wonder what will then happen to Mato. It would be very interesting to find out that the true villain was BRS all along. :-D It could be a guilt trip. Saya thought Yuu/STR had some psychotic break and burned down her house, which ended up not being the case...Yuu/STR used that to guilt trip Saya/BGS into protecting Yuu/STR in the Other World, and the Other World itself. Saya accepted because she desperately wanted to make it up to Yuu/STR. But it is a mystery as to WHY Yuu/STR would want protection in the other world...did she foresee someone/something coming to destroy the Other World an herself? Which means that destroying STR = destroying the other world It sounds like you're saying that Yuu/STR is the world itself - like, in a human form (Anthropomorphism?) - which is entirely possible, given all the things she can do. |
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GracefulDownfall said: YurikoRaine said: This Series Seems Not Open For Those Who Haven't Played The Game Or Reading Explanations Is Necessary. That Makes Worse For The Series. I haven't played the game and the anime isn't that hard to understand. Still Not As Easy To Understand. Unlike Persona 4 Anime. |
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