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Aug 28, 2011 8:41 AM
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next episode:me romance and diplomacy.
i wonder if this will continue minami past or what happend after the kiss
Aug 28, 2011 9:10 AM

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With the director Oonuma Shin the violin BGM and Shimono Hiro as the protagonist, it felt like an episode of ef - a tale of memories.

I loved it.
Aug 28, 2011 9:15 AM

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Yoshi was an idiot back then but he still is one now haha
Aug 28, 2011 9:38 AM

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That was touching as all hell.

Man, even I felt a little in love with Yoshii after seeing that.
Aug 28, 2011 10:12 AM
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but the episode stopped in the end before hearing what she said!!! she stopped at "let me..."


I know.
Two separate cliffhangers at once, wat do?
Aug 28, 2011 10:19 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:


I found hilarious that Minami though Hideyoshi was really a girl at first.
I was indeed funny especially in the males room tho i am still wondering which languase she was using after that scene when she was talking to Hideyoshi since it didn't sound like English nor German at least part of it.

The other parts her English was pretty good tho i didn't hear her talking any German.

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Wow, I was totally surprised by the spoiler
Minami knows French and went to Paris! O_O I would never have known or at least don’t remember her mentioning that much.
French is a popular vacation destination amongst the Germans and since it's the neighboring country it doesn't take long to get there.
It's a 8 or 10 hour drive from Berlin to Paris depending how fast you drive, since Germany doesn't have a speed limit.
So it's not unusual for Germans to have been there.

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The following part in the spoiler
was so EF A Tales of Memories like. The chains! The scenery changing, so EF nostalgic.
Yes those where indeed very nice and this episode also reminded me a bit of Bakemonogatari.


Minami had a pretty hard time getting used to a foreign language which you only learned recently is a pain in the ass.
Tho she managed to get a hang of it.
And she did manage to get some friends.
What was surprising tho is that there wasn't any German in her notes during the modern Japanese to me it seems it would be easier to make notes in your own language, at least the parts which needs extra explanation .
Aug 28, 2011 10:37 AM
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best yoshii line in this episode: "Shimada isnt used to Japan yet, dont call her an idiot" LMFAO

also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
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I has always supports Minami from this starts. Now all of us understands why I think her before Himeji after this episode ends. She has lonely.

She try fit in class. But Minami cannot. She Cry.

Akihisa speak France. He think he speak Germany. Minami speak bad Japan language. Badder English. But I much love episode. Good episode.


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I have always liked Minami from the very start of the anime. As a matter of fact, she was the main reason why I followed the first one. I like Himeji too but, after this episode, perhaps some of you will get to understand why I always liked Minami more.

Despite being left out for her language barrier, she tried her best to fit in the class. It was hurting to see her putting a smile on her face in front of Hazuki, even though she was crying inside.

And finally it's revealed why she fell for Akihisa who did his best to become her friend, even though he messed up French with German. His stupidity actually got himself probably the best girl in the school!

Excuse Minami's grasp in Japanese. Her English was horrible. For more than once I thought she might be fundamentally weak in languages. Regardless I loved episode even though I waited for 7 days to see the reactions of everyone after that kiss. Probably because I am Minami fan.
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amginex said:
also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
I don't remember it, been some time. The only thing I do know is the reasons were said but I am not sure we got a glimpse into the past of Himeji like we did with Minami. In any case I want to know what is up with her weak physical state.

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Yumekichi11 said:
amginex said:
also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
I don't remember it, been some time. The only thing I do know is the reasons were said but I am not sure we got a glimpse into the past of Himeji like we did with Minami. In any case I want to know what is up with her weak physical state.


Himeji likes Akihisa because he stood up for her when she couldn't sit for the exam. Episode 1.
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This episode, although it explains a bit of Minami's past, was pretty mediocre compared to the whole series.
But that's just my opinion
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shanimebib said:
Yumekichi11 said:
amginex said:
also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
I don't remember it, been some time. The only thing I do know is the reasons were said but I am not sure we got a glimpse into the past of Himeji like we did with Minami. In any case I want to know what is up with her weak physical state.
Himeji likes Akihisa because he stood up for her when she couldn't sit for the exam. Episode 1.
That's it? The only thing?

if so............Himeji loses now. The feelings that Minami had in this episode for Yoshii over pawns sadly Himeji big time. Damn, so who is going to take care of her as good as Yoshii?

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Aug 28, 2011 2:29 PM
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I suspected something along these lines after last week's incredible cliffhanger and unfortunately, I was right. It wasn't a really interesting episode I fear, explained virtually nothing about Minami's background and was extremely unrealistic as far as levels of languages are concerned. Not really funny too. Well, I guess we still have to wait for next week's episode to find about what really matters.

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Yumekichi11 said:
shanimebib said:
Yumekichi11 said:
amginex said:
also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
I don't remember it, been some time. The only thing I do know is the reasons were said but I am not sure we got a glimpse into the past of Himeji like we did with Minami. In any case I want to know what is up with her weak physical state.
Himeji likes Akihisa because he stood up for her when she couldn't sit for the exam. Episode 1.
That's it? The only thing?

if so............Himeji loses now. The feelings that Minami had in this episode for Yoshii over pawns sadly Himeji big time. Damn, so who is going to take care of her as good as Yoshii?


Remember one of the best moments of the entire series was when Aki used the money from his sold game DVDs (and his precious ones at it!) to buy Hazuki that big plushy.


Which was actually meant for Minami who had been depressed. At that time, Akihisa didn't even know Hazuki was Minami's sister, still he used his money to buy her that big plushy. There have always been indications that those two were connected even though they didn't know. Minami still doesn't know that plushy was from Akihisa. <3

And she still doesn't know that is the reason why Hazuki wants to be Aki's wife. :)
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Yumekichi11 said:
shanimebib said:
Yumekichi11 said:
amginex said:
also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
I don't remember it, been some time. The only thing I do know is the reasons were said but I am not sure we got a glimpse into the past of Himeji like we did with Minami. In any case I want to know what is up with her weak physical state.
Himeji likes Akihisa because he stood up for her when she couldn't sit for the exam. Episode 1.
That's it? The only thing?

if so............Himeji loses now. The feelings that Minami had in this episode for Yoshii over pawns sadly Himeji big time. Damn, so who is going to take care of her as good as Yoshii?

I'm not sure if that's the ONLY reason why Mizuki likes Akihisa but if it is.....YEAH, she loses....BIG!

Minami's story was bigger and more significant, although I would feel very bad if Mizuki is all alone....

OH NOES, I see a NICE BOAT coming soon.....LOL!
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shanimebib said:
Yumekichi11 said:
shanimebib said:
Yumekichi11 said:
amginex said:
also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
I don't remember it, been some time. The only thing I do know is the reasons were said but I am not sure we got a glimpse into the past of Himeji like we did with Minami. In any case I want to know what is up with her weak physical state.
Himeji likes Akihisa because he stood up for her when she couldn't sit for the exam. Episode 1.
That's it? The only thing?

if so............Himeji loses now. The feelings that Minami had in this episode for Yoshii over pawns sadly Himeji big time. Damn, so who is going to take care of her as good as Yoshii?


Remember one of the best moments of the entire series was when Aki used the money from his sold game DVDs (and his precious ones at it!) to buy Hazuki that big plushy.


Which was actually meant for Minami who had been depressed. At that time, Akihisa didn't even know Hazuki was Minami's sister, still he used his money to buy her that big plushy. There have always been indications that those two were connected even though they didn't know. Minami still doesn't know that plushy was from Akihisa. <3

And she still doesn't know that is the reason why Hazuki wants to be Aki's wife. :)


yup, that episode too shows why himeji admired yoshii. but what it doesnt explain (yet) is why yoshii has "some" attraction to himeji (in season 1) and not minami....i did say the story himejixyoshii have been explain but since yoshii seems to like himeji more, minamixyoshii might not be as strong
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Oh, that's my favourite episode so far! I share Minami's feelings, that's exactly how I felt when I was in Germany...
But, hey, wait a minute, EVERYBODY knows what "mon ami" means, for God's sake! Especially German, cause they border with France >.<
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SHED SOME MANLY TEARS
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amginex said:
shanimebib said:
Yumekichi11 said:
shanimebib said:
Yumekichi11 said:
amginex said:
also didnt they already showed himeji's story on why she likes yoshii?
I don't remember it, been some time. The only thing I do know is the reasons were said but I am not sure we got a glimpse into the past of Himeji like we did with Minami. In any case I want to know what is up with her weak physical state.
Himeji likes Akihisa because he stood up for her when she couldn't sit for the exam. Episode 1.
That's it? The only thing?

if so............Himeji loses now. The feelings that Minami had in this episode for Yoshii over pawns sadly Himeji big time. Damn, so who is going to take care of her as good as Yoshii?


Remember one of the best moments of the entire series was when Aki used the money from his sold game DVDs (and his precious ones at it!) to buy Hazuki that big plushy.


Which was actually meant for Minami who had been depressed. At that time, Akihisa didn't even know Hazuki was Minami's sister, still he used his money to buy her that big plushy. There have always been indications that those two were connected even though they didn't know. Minami still doesn't know that plushy was from Akihisa. <3

And she still doesn't know that is the reason why Hazuki wants to be Aki's wife. :)


yup, that episode too shows why himeji admired yoshii. but what it doesnt explain (yet) is why yoshii has "some" attraction to himeji (in season 1) and not minami....i did say the story himejixyoshii have been explain but since yoshii seems to like himeji more, minamixyoshii might not be as strong


Here are some thoughts of my own:

Is Akihisa a totally awesome guy that makes girls fall head over heels in love with him?

The answer is 'No'. Which means those two girls needed reasons to like him. In this case, Minami's reason for liking him has a much bigger story behind it as shown in this episode. So Minami wins my vote here (well she always had my vote to begin with). But they might bring in something more appealing for Himeji in the end. More so often, the first one to approach is the one being left out in the end. In this case sadly, it would be Minami. ;_;

Is Minami a totally amazing girl that makes boys fall head to toe in love with her?

The answer is 'Yes'. Which means Akihisa might as well liked her had she not been tsun tsun with him all the time, which she cannot help. Also, since he is slow, he never realized her feelings, just like he still misunderstands Himeji's. Ironically, Minami shows her affection for Aki much more than Himeji does, but her tsun tsun always worked against her. But slowly and surely she has come a long way to become a real possibility of whom Aki might end up with.

Is Himeji a totally amazing girl that makes boys fall head to toe in love with her?

The answer is 'Yes'. And since she is soft spoken and shy, and of course, physically more appealing (you cannot ignore the fact), it is obvious that a simple minded guy like Akihisa would fall for her, and there is nothing wrong about it. But slowly Himeji has been losing out to Minami as the anime progressed. While Himeji's cooking episode was shown as something comedic, Minami's cooking episode shown as her desperation and struggle to convey her affection for Aki. And there was this episode with Hazuki where Akihisa unknowingly buys Minami a plushy doll, bringing Minami to smile again without her knowing too. Also, in a particular episode, Akihisa did mention that he likes girls with ponytails. And then this recent misunderstanding over mails and the kiss to end it too! If they do not show anymore beyond the "failing-to-give-her-letter-to-Akihisa" thingy, I will not be able to appreciate a Himeji ending. I just wont. >,<

I dare say the original novel started as Akihisa x Himeji as Minami and the rest as side characters, but as the story progressed, we see how Minami actually came to the same importance just like Himeji and with this particular episode, perhaps well overtaken her by quite a distance.

Something we often see in Novels/ Light Novels/ Manga as the story progresses.

Unrelated, but might spoil those who don't follow the LN/Manga of similar development of other stories.
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good points shanimebib, but i just wanted to point out;

minami likes yoshii
himeji likes yoshii

but yoshi like himeji, not minami

none in season 1, ova, and this current season shows yoshii any interest in minami at all
even the kiss, yoshi was surprised
even when minami's talking avatar was confessing her love for yoshi
even when minami was asking yoshi to tell her that he loves her
even when minami sneaked into his futon, his first reaction was "im gonna get killed"
he doesnt even see minami as a "real girl" while he have "proposed" to hideyoshi already
but yea he's an idiot hahaha

granted, with the last few episodes, its focusing on minami, so it might be "planned" by the creators to give minami a fighting chance OR play mind game with us audience hahaha

(edit added)
someone mentioned a "nice boat" reference. LOL i could see that
minami: "you only care about himeji" stab stab stab.....then himeji avenges hahaha
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shanimebib said:

Remember one of the best moments of the entire series was when Aki used the money from his sold game DVDs (and his precious ones at it!) to buy Hazuki that big plushy.
Yeah, that was sweet episode. Especially that kiss cheek. Really amazing coming from Hazuki.
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Which was actually meant for Minami who had been depressed. At that time, Akihisa didn't even know Hazuki was Minami's sister, still he used his money to buy her that big plushy. There have always been indications that those two were connected even though they didn't know. Minami still doesn't know that plushy was from Akihisa. <3
Can't wait to find out that it was but fate sure has some strange occurrences in love in this series perhaps in thee end the title of Yoshii being BAKA in deciding truly shows how much a girl like Minami had to just push it up the scale but then again it was the BAKA of Yoshii that lead to the cell phone message being sent to the wrong person.

Hazuki may get jealous of Minami loving Yoshii. I hope she gets over it. Then there is Miharu.
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And she still doesn't know that is the reason why Hazuki wants to be Aki's wife. :)
Well the reason is because Yoshii is kind and gentle. Also that he bought her something that she could not afford. Oh man! The romance is great in this series!

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This episode was really good! Really has me feeling for Minami <3 I hope things end up well between her and Yoshii. Him going through that much effort just to talk to her... so sweet!!!!!!
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WHAT A SHIT MAN YOU ARE
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I just remembered.....Minami was sitting in the famous "Haruhi Chair", surely this means she's the right pick!
Aug 28, 2011 10:12 PM
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nice EF style episode ^^
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>serious thoughts about a very funny comedy, looking for genuine serious plot saga in a life of a funny idiot with a heart of gold

Yeah, cool. Take it easy there, partners.
Aug 29, 2011 3:31 AM

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I like Minami best out of all the girls in this and I love the fact the story seems to be shipping her story at the moment =)

Minami-Chan Daisuki!!!
Aug 29, 2011 5:59 AM

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Very good episode and in my opinion the funniest and best in this series.
We have now more background information about Minami and how she met Yoshii.

I laughed at Minami dragging Hideyoshi out of the toilet. xD
Minami's German was terrible and hard to understand ("Was machst du? Das ist eine Toilette für Männer!"). But all the language jokes were very funny with the "What a shit man you are" and that Yoshii was speaking French.
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Uhhhh.... Did anyone else notice that while Shimada's dad was asking her about how school went, he was smoking a tobacco, INSIDE THE HOUSE with those 2 girls there?!!!! Annoyed me a little bit.
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What a shit? What a serious epizodo in mah Baka Test. Neverthless lots of Minami, no Himeji at all, could ask for it to be more funneh but it was good enough. I expect moar comedy next ep.

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Uhhhh.... Did anyone else notice that while Shimada's dad was asking her about how school went, he was smoking a tobacco, INSIDE THE HOUSE with those 2 girls there?!!!! Annoyed me a little bit.

Yes, he should die.
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Nice to see they haven't changed a bit since that year ago.
What a shit man you are. Dats the Truth rite ther.

And damnit I was so psyched for what was gunna happen after last episode, gotta wait a little bit more. :/ Still a good ep to find out how it all began.
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Uhhhh.... Did anyone else notice that while Shimada's dad was asking her about how school went, he was smoking a tobacco, INSIDE THE HOUSE with those 2 girls there?!!!! Annoyed me a little bit.
I totally understand your point but I would more pissed off if they were babies. It's bad but not the worst but yeah anime is showing a bad example out. They should have not done that.

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Wa ta shi
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I am a man, are you?
LOL <3 Great episode even though it's different.
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this episode was top shelf quality, I have no words.
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WHAT A SHIT MAN YOU ARE!

Nice Memetic Mutation right there, Minami.
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lol,, really liked "WHAT A SHIT MAN YOU ARE"!!! XD

'What a sea?' XD

Dang.., I'm more like

60% - Minami X Akihisa
40% - Himeji X Akihisa

due to the recent episodes -.-'
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This episode made me an official Minami's fan,seriously...Great episode as expected from BakaTest.
Aug 30, 2011 7:36 AM

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I loved the apresentations from Yuuji, Hideyoshi, Voyage and Akihira. Especially with Minami's thoughts. XD
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NOOOOOOOOO! WHY WAS IT CUT OFF!!? IT WAS PERFECT BUT I WANTED TO SEE THEM BECOME FRIENDS!!!
Aug 30, 2011 9:37 PM

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I just hope we can have a clear ending in this season... Cliffhanger is unacceptable imo
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Love how, Baka can be seriously humorous. I speak fluent French so the French made me laugh haha. Never would have predicted Yoshi to use French.
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Yay for Minami and Akihisa....I really want those two together. This episode just made me want that even more.
I am a sucker for romance!!!!
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I was quite disappointed because I thought I was going to laugh hard each episode but it made me realize that Baka Test can be MORE than just that so it was a good change of pace. Oh, and how they made me feel a bit emotional with Minami's character was a big plus!
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Best episode of the second season?
Best episode of the second season.
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Best episode of the second season?
Best episode of the second season.


Nah, episode 7 was best. This was still pretty cool, though.
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Seriously though, I've gotta ask, why is every anime studio so HORRIBLE with foreign languages???

I mean, the English was Terrible, the German and French was also bad...

Is it really so hard to get someone who is fluent in English???
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"What a shit man you are" >> "I am a man, are you?" only Akihisa can achieve such stupendous translation. LOL
The ep was seriously touching. Great to see how they can provide comedy with emotional themes. The last part where Minami translates French to English is awesome. I'm liking Minami more and more..
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@alexcampos

It probably wouldn't be that hard to find someone fluent in English, German, etc, but this is a business venture. Hiring more voices than necessary is not optimal for funds. It is cheaper to use one seiyuu per character, although additional 'singing' voices are occasionally used.

This one-to-one arrangement means that it is either awkward Japanese or awkward English, German, etc. Given that most of the lines are in Japanese, it makes sense that they would neglect other languages for profit.
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low on the humor but a good story telling episode. from a shy nervous girl to now being .... kinda mean but still shy and nervous. still I much prefer Minami especially now to Himeji.

LOL why the hell was Akihisa wearing that shirt? ahahaha

further proof he was a big idiot but was the only one who tried to be nice to her. yay, go idiots.
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