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Aug 24, 2010 10:35 AM

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Some epic fighting there.
Aug 24, 2010 12:09 PM

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AnoniMus said:
I was the one who voted disliked it, and am not trolling.

I lost my pacience watching One Piece, the sounds are anoying (with the footsteps for example), the reaction of the people when someone makes a powerfull attack are repetitive. Since Amazon Lily I'm losing my interest in this series. I miss the rest of Mugiwara :/

PS: Noticed when the guy attacked with a giant ice block and threw it, the sound was an airplane lol.


That's why my friend, when it comes to One Piece, the manga > anime. By reading the manga you will get;

1. Better pacing.
2. Details-details-details.
3. Author intended characterizations, plots and world buildings.
4. Consistencies.
5. Easter eggs (optional enjoyment).
6. SBS (optional enjoyment).

And if you start from the beginning you will get to read several mini/cover story arcs (seeing the anime only animated two mini/cover story). You'll get to see;

1. Character development for other side/minor characters (particularly the antagonist).
2. Fleshed out storyline (ex: the origin of Shandian, Skypiean and Bilkan from Skypiea saga).
3. Author intended storyline (example; Sanji's past).

It's not just One Piece though. Any long running series are better off followed by reading their original source (the manga). You won't get any bloopers, continuity errors as well as getting disappointed by the animations and the arts the anime studio produced.

I only watch a selective episodes of One Piece anyway. That, or you can read/catch up to the manga first and then, watch/catch up with the anime. See if their adaptation meets your expectation or not.


agreed


Seconded.
Kizaru's voice-acting and some nice details turned this into a 3/5.

AnoniMus said:
@ziggy-stardust
I'm not a manga reader, so far I only read Naruto (and beggining of Bakuman, but dropped because it will be animated soon :P), and in the future will read Berserk and 20th Century boys. I always prefered anime, I'm too lazy to read on the Internet.


1. One tankobon costs like 3-6 dollars from where I live. Buy them.
2. Stop reading Naruto and start reading Berserk. NOW.
3. Just take your time and start reading manga, it's worth it and the pacing,art & story is usually miles above (Even for crap like Elfen Lied).
4. Why haven't you stopped reading Naruto and started reading Berserk? DO IT OR I WILL GET MAD.
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Aug 24, 2010 12:47 PM

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When I started reading Naruto I was adicted to the anime, and wanted to know more. if it was now I wouldn't do it.
And why stop it? It's just 18 pages per week, nothing much.
But with Berserk and 20th century boys is diferent, my brother really loves both, so besides reading on the internet he's buying them :) Those I will read like a book. I'm just thinkiing if I should start now and then wait 1 month to read more pages, or just start to read in some years when it's over.

One Piece isn't worth the money to buy it, not even naruto wich I prefer to Op. (yes there are few like me)

I even never read FMA which the anime is my favorite show.
Aug 24, 2010 1:48 PM

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I'm going to be completely honest with you.... no one cares.


Aug 24, 2010 2:20 PM

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Then just ignore :)

edit:(looked into your profile and some posts) you're an OP fanboy, that explains things... and worst, a troll, giving 1 to clannad, just to drop the average...
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ziggy-stardust said:
AnoniMus said:
I was the one who voted disliked it, and am not trolling.

I lost my pacience watching One Piece, the sounds are anoying (with the footsteps for example), the reaction of the people when someone makes a powerfull attack are repetitive. Since Amazon Lily I'm losing my interest in this series. I miss the rest of Mugiwara :/

PS: Noticed when the guy attacked with a giant ice block and threw it, the sound was an airplane lol.


That's why my friend, when it comes to One Piece, the manga > anime. By reading the manga you will get;

1. Better pacing.
2. Details-details-details.
3. Author intended characterizations, plots and world buildings.
4. Consistencies.
5. Easter eggs (optional enjoyment).
6. SBS (optional enjoyment).

And if you start from the beginning you will get to read several mini/cover story arcs (seeing the anime only animated two mini/cover story). You'll get to see;

1. Character development for other side/minor characters (particularly the antagonist).
2. Fleshed out storyline (ex: the origin of Shandian, Skypiean and Bilkan from Skypiea saga).
3. Author intended storyline (example; Sanji's past).

It's not just One Piece though. Any long running series are better off followed by reading their original source (the manga). You won't get any bloopers, continuity errors as well as getting disappointed by the animations and the arts the anime studio produced.

I only watch a selective episodes of One Piece anyway. That, or you can read/catch up to the manga first and then, watch/catch up with the anime. See if their adaptation meets your expectation or not.

Totally agree as well. One thing that annoys me to no end, is the fucking cannoneers who never, ever hit anything. Seriously, we see some cannonballs flying, and then they all land near their target. 3 minutes later same thing again. Usually with the same scenes. That alone made me drop the rating by 2.

ShiroEroYaru said:
Animation was perfect

Yeeah.. no. How can you say that a bunch of shaking still pictures is perfect animation? Watch Evangelion 2.0, then watch this episode again. Should be nothing to discuss afterwards.
Aug 24, 2010 3:39 PM

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AnoniMus said:
Then just ignore :)

edit:(looked into your profile and some posts) you're an OP fanboy, that explains things... and worst, a troll, giving 1 to clannad, just to drop the average...
well, no and yes. it was originally either a 5 or a 6, but someone told me to give it a 1 just for the hell of it.

and the reason why I was rude to you is because your posts are coming all the way from left field. No one cares about Berserk in this thread. No one cares about Naruto. No one cares about whatever you are talking about. We are talking about One Piece Episode 463, and maybe some other One Piece related things.

And the criticism the One Piece anime has been under the last couple of arcs has been ridiculous. Everything after Shaobody may be crap, but that doesn't take away how good it has been in the past. I honestly doubt they are going to screw up this arc like they did during Impel Down. Now THAT had bad pacing, etc. Thriller Bark didn't. Neither did Arabasta. The anime version of Skypeia had the same problems the manga version did. And I can go on.

@Schoettler
You are comparing the animation from a movie that took 1-2 years to make to an episode that is made in a week. So think of a better example because that is god awful.

It has been like.... what? 2-3 episodes, and people are already complaining about this arc. It's ridiculous.


Aug 24, 2010 8:12 PM

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JusticeHart said:
AnoniMus said:
Then just ignore :)

edit:(looked into your profile and some posts) you're an OP fanboy, that explains things... and worst, a troll, giving 1 to clannad, just to drop the average...
well, no and yes. it was originally either a 5 or a 6, but someone told me to give it a 1 just for the hell of it.

and the reason why I was rude to you is because your posts are coming all the way from left field. No one cares about Berserk in this thread. No one cares about Naruto. No one cares about whatever you are talking about. We are talking about One Piece Episode 463, and maybe some other One Piece related things.

And the criticism the One Piece anime has been under the last couple of arcs has been ridiculous. Everything after Shaobody may be crap, but that doesn't take away how good it has been in the past. I honestly doubt they are going to screw up this arc like they did during Impel Down. Now THAT had bad pacing, etc. Thriller Bark didn't. Neither did Arabasta. The anime version of Skypeia had the same problems the manga version did. And I can go on.

@Schoettler
You are comparing the animation from a movie that took 1-2 years to make to an episode that is made in a week. So think of a better example because that is god awful.

It has been like.... what? 2-3 episodes, and people are already complaining about this arc. It's ridiculous.


And just because some one told you, you did it...

Don't know what does it mean "coming all the way from the left field" but if it means it's offttopic then sorry about that, but you have 2 choices then, 1-ignore, 2-report.

Criticism about One Piece, I always thought the pacing was bad, since the beggining that was the big problem, but still Arabasta managed to be my favorite Arc, but Skypia was really slow, the second half of water Seven was really bad too, the first hald of Thriller Bark was boring and so on. I prefer small arcs, not much episodes, like Shaobody, which was cool, specialy when the Supernovas came.

In One Peace I can never say about an arc "it was awesome" nor "it was really bad" because the arc is so big, that in the same one, there are awesome episodes and really boring episodes. The anime could cut half of the episodes, without cutting the content, that's for sure, and there I could say OP was great.
But that's not the case, so this anime for me, it's considered great history, great Characters, great development, but loses much points because of pacing.
Aug 24, 2010 11:57 PM
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kenpachi's voice as akainu .. perfect
Aug 25, 2010 6:25 AM
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I really hate how they waste 5 to 6 minutes of each episode showing the faces, comments and expressions of these unknown small fries

great episode though. Marco and Akainu's powers were animated with great effect
Aug 25, 2010 6:52 AM

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^ fail.. its a war, there are thousands of people there.. ofc there would be expressions and comments.. there was in the manga also
Aug 25, 2010 7:14 AM
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^^^

double fail. They weren't this many in the manga.
Aug 25, 2010 8:03 AM

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Triple fail................just wanted to say it..... continue. lol
Aug 25, 2010 9:00 AM
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quadruple fail XD
Aug 25, 2010 9:33 AM

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Wow! Finally shit is going down. Some really epic powers from some really GAR dudes.

Best line of the episode
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Aug 25, 2010 10:42 AM
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how is the pacing bad this episode? Quite a few things went down with very nice animation. Previous eps were a bit slow but i'm just enjoying the moment.

One piece has never been a fast paced anime, thats why it took like 18 eps before i got hooked. So i dont know why people complain about it now. Even thriller bark seemed quit slow to me. Its just everything else in One piece that make this anime great.

Just try to enjoy it( even if its slow)....thats the best advice i can give
Aug 25, 2010 6:35 PM

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Well, I've finally done the impossible and gone through an arc and a half just to get to this point, but I'm finally caught up.

That was a fun three or so days.

Oh yeah, Marco Phoenix was really awesome.
Aug 26, 2010 2:12 AM
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The worst pacing I know is the seven sea arc. It has almost half of the show consist of flash back and the action only last for less than 7 mins. This episode is very nice compare to that. imo
Aug 26, 2010 7:54 AM

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nah thriller bark had the lames pacing..
i remember there was an episode where Moria put the shadow in Oz -_- it took half an episode to put that, and another half to revive Oz

this episode was fast paced enough
Aug 26, 2010 7:59 AM
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LOL.... maybe I am numb at the moment,I can't feel the lame pacing.It seem I get used to this lame pacing.I felt that One piece's pacing is getting faster and faster.
Aug 26, 2010 10:43 AM

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Kizaru sounds annoying as hell, seeing Marco animated was just pure epic, and Oars looks 10x more badass in the anime just because of the color, lol.
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Aug 26, 2010 11:29 AM

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And even though I like the current one I still can't get used to how long One Piece openings are.... A waste of some good minutes, I must say.

Other than that, it was a pretty good episode.
Aug 27, 2010 6:14 AM

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^fail. haven't you noticed there are no endings?
thats why they are longer
Aug 27, 2010 1:47 PM

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Yes, but still I prefer to have both an opening and an ending rather than a big opening.
Aug 27, 2010 4:57 PM

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Me too, but then again, outside of "Rainbow Star," I've actually really liked all the songs.
Aug 27, 2010 11:51 PM
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Total war has broken out, only the strong will survive.
Aug 28, 2010 2:28 AM

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Nymphetamine2791 said:
Kizaru sounds annoying as hell


thats his character dude xD
he's fucking lazy.. the Voice Actor has done a great job ( same as Blackbeard, and that captain from Bleach)
Aug 28, 2010 6:15 PM

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Bittersweet, a couple of months ago I started watching One Piece and now im caught up, now I have to limit myself to only one episode release a week. But im happy to be watching One Piece, I just wanted to say that.


But yea pretty nice fights, too bad they cant cover more but it is war, only the top ones can get the spotlight.
Sep 8, 2010 7:42 AM

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This episode was well paced. I was surprised to see Marco's flames were blue seeing as he's meant to be a phoenix but other than that it was a good ep.
Sep 11, 2010 1:38 AM
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UncleJustice said:
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You are comparing the animation from a movie that took 1-2 years to make to an episode that is made in a week. So think of a better example because that is god awful.


Animation is animation. I don't see your point. Even if it took 10 years to make something, I could still compare it to something that took 2 hours to make and say, yeah, the animation in this is better than that. Comparing the two might be completely ridiculous, but still, the difference in animation can not be disputed.

Besides, the animation in this episode was horrible compared to, say, Brotherhood, and most other animes in the same genres.

(Pardon me bumping an old thread)
Sep 11, 2010 2:18 AM

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^well dont compare this to other small shows -_-

the animation was like this from the start.. its TOEI..
Sep 11, 2010 1:11 PM

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You can compare then to Bleach. A big show and well animated for a big shonen.
Sep 11, 2010 1:27 PM

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yeah .. the quality is very good there ..

but as i said, its TOEI.. its their 'style' to draw it like this..
i mean there is no ongoing show from them that has Better quality..

their drawings were always like this.
Sep 30, 2010 7:54 AM

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Nice nice. Alot of chapters they covered though.
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Dec 27, 2010 6:37 PM

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Oh man watching Akainu make his first move sent a shiver down my spine. And the WB commanders are all so badass
Mar 4, 2011 1:18 AM

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EPIC is all i can say!
Another Oars, awesome!!!
Jun 26, 2011 3:14 PM

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Honestly, I don't remember who Oars is. In any case, this was quite cool and think about it Luffy, Crocodile and Jimbei haven't even joined the battle yet.
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insan3soldiern said:
Honestly, I don't remember who Oars is. .

The luffy zombie from thriller bark i believe
Jun 26, 2011 3:59 PM

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jpem said:
insan3soldiern said:
Honestly, I don't remember who Oars is. .

The luffy zombie from thriller bark i believe


Yeah, he is. I believe the subs I had seen translated his name as Odz and Oz, so it confused me at first.
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insan3soldiern said:
jpem said:
insan3soldiern said:
Honestly, I don't remember who Oars is. .

The luffy zombie from thriller bark i believe


Yeah, he is. I believe the subs I had seen translated his name as Odz and Oz, so it confused me at first.


Yeah that was an incorrect mistranslation. His real name is Oars.



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Nymphetamine2791 said:
Kizaru sounds annoying as hell


thats his character dude xD
he's fucking lazy.. the Voice Actor has done a great job ( same as Blackbeard, and that captain from Bleach)


^ fail, kizaru isnt' the one that is lazy. It was aikoji.
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UncleJustice said:
@Schoettler
You are comparing the animation from a movie that took 1-2 years to make to an episode that is made in a week. So think of a better example because that is god awful.


Animation is animation. I don't see your point. Even if it took 10 years to make something, I could still compare it to something that took 2 hours to make and say, yeah, the animation in this is better than that. Comparing the two might be completely ridiculous, but still, the difference in animation can not be disputed.

Besides, the animation in this episode was horrible compared to, say, Brotherhood, and most other animes in the same genres.

(Pardon me bumping an old thread)


How bout not comparing animation at all. Its a different visual design and studio, That is like saying Code geass has better quality animation then Soul eater. There both completely different visual art designs from different studio's. I love fooly cooly and tegen toppa gurren lagann. I actually find there art style very unique and interesting. One piece has that same different art style. You can't really compare one completely different visual art style, to another.

yeah there is loads of anime with more crisp art styles and flashy character designs, like kara no kyo kai, but for this series, TOEI did a pretty great job and this was there art style from the beginning. It never changed accept when it went into HD.

So people that just say they hate one piece because of the different style. Then thats there personal opinion. I can see how one's piece style would turn off alot of viewers. its definitely not the norm in anime.



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jaw dropping and eye googling episode! as expected each of Whitebeard's commanders are strong! This slugfest has got me all excited in seeing several new and rare Devil fruit abilities! Its great to see each commander can fight on par with the admirals so that it doesn't look one-sided hehe Would like to see more action from Whitebeard himself! 
The addition of Odz's descendant is just as exciting.. Old man Whitebeard must be special as he has some very loyal followers :-)
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whitebeard is way too boss.
the way he speared that meteor made me laught, he treated it like a lit marshmallow and blew the flames out.
he hasn't even moved yet; his commanders intercepted an ADMIRAL and a SHICHIBUKI themselves.

considering how kizaru nearly killed all of the straw hats, it's amazing seeing whitebeard's crew.

BOSS, I SAY, BOSS. all these new abilities are cool too. i love marco's phoenix and those magma rocks have crazy destructive power. and LITTLE oars JUNIOR? LOL THIS SHOW.
Nov 24, 2012 6:11 PM

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Feels like something is missing..

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Feb 2, 2013 8:15 AM

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So this shit is finally moving. Everybody is SOO DAMN OVERPOWERED.

But Buggy's gonna boss them all.
Feb 2, 2014 6:01 PM

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Marco's ability is WOW!!! Definitely one of the best WB pirates! I want to see more of him!!!
And Whitebeard skewering a volcanic rock like a marshmallow XD XD XD He is the boss!!!!
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"I've never seen a bird like this before." Agree with you there Kizaru.
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Marco's ability is WOW!!! Definitely one of the best WB pirates! I want to see more of him!!!
And Whitebeard skewering a volcanic rock like a marshmallow XD XD XD He is the boss!!!!
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