One Piece: Gyojin Tou-hen Episode 1 Discussion

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Nov 3, 7:56 AM

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ymanaslya

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big big big big big big glaba

Nov 3, 8:28 AM

#52

Kanelbullar

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Sailing, Sailing motto ueni Sailing~~ 🎶

The ED slaps 🔥🔥🔥 Instantly put into my playlist.

Nov 3, 9:17 AM

#53

Elizatonne78

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the first episode was just excellent.

Nov 3, 9:35 AM

#54

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It still pisses me off that they can't tell the real Straw Hats from those fakes. How are you going to compare the beautiful Robin to that old Cocoa?

Spanish translation:
Todavía me enoja que no puedan distinguir a los verdaderos sombreros de paja de esos impostores. ¿Cómo vas a comparar a la hermosa Robin con esa vieja Cocoa?

Nov 3, 10:28 AM

#55

YunWasTaken

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Dec 2023

opening was fire and zoro is so cold

Nov 3, 11:12 AM

#56

GreatCarerJack

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sanji being such a terrible character in this arc unironically makes whole cake island hit way better, his character needed a maturing moment, instead oda gave him an entire arc to mature and become a better character, which was almost ruined on wano until the raid arc saved him again.

Nov 3, 11:32 AM

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Nov 3, 12:39 PM

#58

Orion911

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Boa was more sexy in the old animation.
ED is so good

Nov 3, 2:05 PM

#59

NOOBBOT05

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From what I saw in this episode, this will not be the new way of watching Fish-Man Island. Too much cutting meakes the scenes not work and seemvery weird. They also didn't reanimate anything, it's just traced over with the Wano style. If I knew someone who was watching One Piece for the first time, I would tell them to watch the original one instead.

Nov 3, 2:40 PM

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The pacing is far better than before, and the filter does some nice job to enhance a bit the rather flat art style from One Piece's animated post timeskip content up to Whole Cake Island (which is where things started getting some gloss up even before Wano).

As for the skipped content some people are mentioning, actually they just skipped 3 minor things (the rest is very much in line with the manga/adapted manga content in the original):

A Robin page showing her observing the fact that Marines were actively searching for her on the island already (which is an information the episode itself already gave us with the fake Robin plot and Straw Hat huntdown).

The other was this small exchange between Luffy and Hancock, which just pretty much repeats the same marriage comedic shenanigans from the start of the episode (but this time before he leaves their ship), and was just a little fluff even in the manga (and may the shippers attack me all they want, this likely won't ever go anywhere, at that).

The last one is a single panel of Fake Nami threatening Nami, which was indeed the one single part of the episode in which a bad cut was made (the panel is removed, so it feels like she just teleported there for no reason as Usopp approached).

One Pace will probably soon just add those back in anyway, so yeah, be my guess and go for it if you feel this is anyhow essential to the experience.

But I do hope this one scene at the bar gets fixed in a potential Blu Ray release not restricted by TV episode durations, as the rest of the episode was pretty flawless in doing what it proposes.

4.5/5, very close to an ideal remastered edit of Fishman Island Saga so far (only one ep, but hey!), potentially one to become the definitive way of watching from now on as these edits keep coming (til The One Piece reaches this far anyway, if it does lol).

DanpmssNov 3, 4:34 PM

Nov 3, 2:54 PM

#61

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Return to Sabaody seems like it'll be 2 episodes, and the pacing is much better compared to the original 6 episodes.
I don't like this arc much because of the fake straw hats, but the animation is nice and the ending is fire.

Nov 3, 3:20 PM

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I genuinely don't understand why people are claiming this was good pacing. I was getting Tokyo Ghoul RE flashbacks the entire episode.

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Nov 3, 4:18 PM

#63

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The remake edition of Return to Sabaody and Fishman Island arcs. The art looks different but the animation is really good now, Nami, Hancock, Robin look so beautiful. The story feels a bit quick as some scenes were missing but it's still a good start.

Nov 3, 4:38 PM

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Reply to skipped

I genuinely don't understand why people are claiming this was good pacing. I was getting Tokyo Ghoul RE flashbacks the entire episode.

@skipped Because unlike Tokyo Ghoul "let's adapt 13 chapters filled with text in a single episode and make a horrible mess" RE, this only adapted two chapters very well and skipped a couple of minor lines in 3 instances, because of episode duration constraints (only one of which was actually a misfire, the skipped bar panel with Fake Nami).

DanpmssNov 3, 4:44 PM

Nov 3, 4:41 PM

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I never thought I would ever get to see a one piece episode that didn't move at a snail pace ever again but here it is an actual reasonable two whole ass chapters in a single episode. Seems they are even reorganising the order the scenes were adapted from the og too, seeing as the scenes of Robin meeting franky on the sunny, chopper getting upset and running from the fake straw hats and sentomaru and the marines preparing to move out weren't until the first half of the 3rd of the arc (ep 519) in the og. It wasn't perfect in its presentation due to it being limited by being an edit of a preexisting production but overall its nothing to distracting that it takes me out of it so far

Nov 3, 5:24 PM

#66

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Ok, I will tell you why I HATED this first episode, even compared to the original animation:

They accelerated the pacing so much that it created continuity mistakes and killed all the "cool factor" of the reuniting scenes! The scene with Nami in the bar was so cut that the fake Nami just teleported to the side of real Nami when Usopp entered the establishment. Robin beeing persecuted was also completely cut, Sanji beeing in a fisherman's shop does not have any kind of explanation, even if it is a simple thing, and there are much more scenes where the cuts don't make sense (Brook talking to the manager, Boa's goodbye, etc.), but I will not rewatch this just to make a full discussion of my point, you can watch by yourself and see what I am saying.

There's no breathing between scenes whatsoever! This harms more the pacing than it does good. Everithing "just happens". There's no tension, no emotion, no nothing, just scenes after scenes. Disapointing.

There is one thing that the user "Pangea_" said in this discussion: "I hope Toei does not think that having a better pace is equivalent to having no proper transitions between scenes and not letting any moments properly breath." For me, after this episode, I'm 100% sure that TOEI's idea of better pacing is cutting everithing possible, just to make the episodes "FEEL LIKE" they're faster.

Nov 3, 5:39 PM

#67

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one of the most overhated arcs of one piece gets a remaster and it looks so good, whoever decided that it should get a remaster really cooked. the pacing is good and i'm loving the visuals, not to mention the solid op. i also forgot boa was present at the start of this arc so i was pleasantly surprised to see my glorious queen, they're so cute even if luffy is oblivious to her feelings lmao. now watch one piece cook even while it's on hiatus.

Nov 3, 9:02 PM

#68

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The remakes looks p clean so far! 🔥

Nov 3, 10:07 PM

#69

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I know they are trying to take 2 chapter 1 episode, but the pacing felt really rushed. Many anime out there that really have rushed pacing, as if delivering plot point is the only important thing, never have I imagine I would say the same about One Piece anime.
They could just end the episode at place where they didn't before. So the episode wouldn't be so compacted. For example, ending it after Luffy CoC would be a great place, no need to get to Zoro.
Even if Zoro scene ends up in middle of next episode, wouldn't be a problem.

Nov 3, 11:10 PM

#70

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So....I just finished watching the first episode of the Fishman Island log, and I have mixed feelings about it. The episode itself isn't horrible—it's One Piece, so there's always something to love—but it definitely could have been much better.

For one, the new visuals don’t do a whole lot for me. I get what TOEI was aiming for with the updated style, but it doesn’t capture the same magic or impact as the original episodes. On top of that, the pacing feels rushed, which is disappointing for an arc as important as Fishman Island. It’s as if they're more focused on speeding through content rather than letting the story breathe.

And then there’s the OP song. Honestly, it's one of my least favorites. It just doesn’t get me hyped like some of the classic openings did, and that doesn’t help the overall feel of the episode.

I can see how this might be useful for newcomers who want to catch up on One Piece faster, and that’s probably the main upside here. But for longtime fans, I’d honestly rather see TOEI put their time and resources into other areas instead of quick recaps that miss some of the original charm.

Anyone else feel the same way?

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Nov 3, 11:22 PM

#71

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It does look better, the OP and ED were nice too. OP needed the break. It was too close to the manga and filler arcs are a thing of the past.

So this is better than nothing at all.

Nov 4, 12:05 AM

#72

logic340

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Reply to WolfWood37

It does look better, the OP and ED were nice too. OP needed the break. It was too close to the manga and filler arcs are a thing of the past.

So this is better than nothing at all.

@WolfWood37 One Piece is one of the few anime that can use filler arcs to its advantage. The lack of filler arcs is actually a negative in this case as those could have been used to expand the world and keep the anime from catching up to the manga. Also the lack of cover story usage also hurts the pacing. It is another missed opportunity to fill viewers in on the whereabouts and goings on of other characters while keeping the amime from catching up.

Marine Base G8 is a great example of a filler arc that worked wonders in One Piece.

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Nov 4, 1:28 AM

#73

Eoussama

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I was honestly skeptical, but after seeing the first episode, half of the return to Sabaody in a single episode is the kind of pacing we always wanted. This is gonna be such a peak because I can finally convince Anime onlies that Fishman Island is an S-tier arc, or an A-tier on a bad day.

Nov 4, 3:18 AM

#74

Azuchi

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Gonna be a long ass recap. Whole 21 episodes. Can't see a big difference between this and the original except parts where they cut. Quite obvious cutting and adding the next scenes.
Well, gonna watch all these anyways.

"You only realize the real value of something you discarded when you get the chance to pick it up again." - Rudeus Greyrat

Nov 4, 7:25 AM

#75

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alphazero4um said:
Going to watch this and keep myself busy at night at least. Until we get back to Egghead Island, which won't be for a while until it is Spring 2025.

This has 21 episodes, which is 21 weeks. And in 21 weeks Egghead returns

Nov 4, 10:31 AM

#76

Ziko-2003

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Best opening and best ending in this season, the episode is great and the pacing is majestic

Nov 4, 10:31 AM

#77

Ziko-2003

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Best opening and best ending in this season, the episode is great and the pacing is majestic

Nov 4, 12:29 PM

#78

Barca0308

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lol It almost felt weird watching a One Piece episode that used more than 1 chapter of manga material after literal decades. What I did not like though is the fact that they cut out scenes that were in the original canon. Nami getting threatened by Fake-Nami, Robins first appearance and Luffy saying goodbye to Hancock were left out.

@De_Baer yeah, they left a lot of good stuff out because they made 1 episode out of the 2 original ones...I did like the OP and ED, but the animation in the anime isn't anything special in my opinion, and I think the original looks way better than the new one. The worst thing is the brightness of the whole episode(and it will be like this the whole arc). The thing is, this is not the first anime with such bad brightness, they did that also in Date A Live season 4 and 5...it was not watchable. Imagine Jujutsu or Bleach or Demon Slayer with such brightness...some people aren't bothered by it, but it's really not something that you can ignore in my opinion hahaha

I compared the old episodes(517 and 518) with the new one, and I would still prefer watching the old episodes...I've watched One Piece at least 30 times in the last 24 years so I actually love how you see the change of style throughout the years...Egg Head arc is being animated in this new style and at the beginning of the arc, they also had this issue with the brightness, and they fixed that a bit through the next few episodes...but I still would have preferred it if they kept the animation style from the Wano arc.

Nov 4, 12:49 PM

#79

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one piece with good pacing is there anything else to say

@big_poppa963 you clearly started watching One Piece a few years or months ago hahahaha there is no way in hell that this is better pacing than the original one...they cut half of the scenes that make One Piece funny and beloved by a lot of people...a lot of people already pointed out what was missing...combining 2 episodes in 1 doesn't make it better...the animation isn't even better than the original one.

I'm sure only kids and people that started watching One Piece recently bring up "pacing" as something bad in One Piece...I've watched this show for more than 24 years and I never had a problem with the pacing of the show...yeah maybe they prologue a scene that shouldn't have been that long, but in the end it's not that bad (it became bad in the last few years because the episodes are now 16min long when you exclude the OP and ED...and in the past they were at least 20+ min long...so that's the only downside in the last few years...the anime is following the manga, and sometimes they had to prologue a few scenes and episodes so that the anime doesn't catch up to the manga...the only fillers One Piece ever had, were before Movies and those fillers were a few episodes long...so in the last 25 years they rarely had any fillers and everything was according to the manga so what kind of pacing would you smart people want?)

I know for sure you don't know what you are talking about if you think that this episode had god pacing...they literally cut some scenes, and it made no sense at all hahahaha people that can't watch an anime like this because of "pacing" should go and watch different anime with 12 episodes per season...and most of those don't have good pacing, and you don't get half of the info because they didn't have time to properly explain it in the anime...most anime that have 12 episodes per season and "good pacing" are made from a Light Novel and in reality don't have good pacing because they miss half of the stuff that is written in the LN...when they make a manga out of an LN they already have to remove some stuff, and when they make an anime they remove even more stuff that was in the manga hahahaha so I don't understand what people want and why they always talk about pacing of some story when they probably didn't even read the original source (One Piece manga in this case...I'm sure you didn't read the manga...because the pacing in the manga and anime is similar...the manga was always at least half a year in advance of the anime at some point, and in the last few years it was not even 3 months in front of the anime, that's why they probably made this hiatus...)

Nov 4, 1:04 PM

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Barca0308

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Once again watching the fishmen arc but this time with improved animation.
I hope it will be a good experience for new One Piece fans who are yet to get to this arc.

It was so fast that I even felt strange, it almost felt like I missed something...
and apparently there were some scenes that they cut from the original, for example:

Not that this is a relevant scene for the importance of the story but there were some cuts here and there, that's for sure.

Man, I liked the ending more than the opening. Reminds me a lot of the vibe of JJK's ''Lost in Paradise'' (1:12 ~ 1:25)

and JIKAI:

@Nerdason This was not the only scene that was missing, I knew right away that this was missing when I watched the episode...because that was the funniest thing in that whole episode in the original and I remember that because scenes like that made One Piece funny.

The biggest problem I have with this "new" One Piece is the brightness of the whole episode(look at the pics you posted and compare that with the new episode...). For me "new" anime with that new style of animation and such brightness is not watchable...it just destroys the whole experience...the original episodes look 100 times better, and they were made 13 years ago...and a lot of scenes were cut and I actually knew right away where...because I've watched One Piece really a lot of times in the last 24 years and the Straw hats getting back together at least 50 times before they go to the Fishman Island(in the original that were episodes 517-522), so I remember every scene and I really hate when they remove something that made the show as it was.

Nov 5, 6:39 AM

#81

Elyshion

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Very clean this new version!

Nov 6, 12:24 AM

#82

DmitryBaksheev

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Remembering my emotions from watching Return to Sabaody Arc of the original anime, I can say that this episode did not impress me much compared to those exciting emotions (although this is probably because I watched it for the first time). This episode is not bad, I liked it and the graphics are good, but as many people have already written, because of the cutting of some scenes, it is a little hasty and not quite holistic, and the same thing with some dialogues. I already liked Return to Sabaody Arc of the original anime, which I can't say about Fishman Island Arc (one of the most boring arcs for me along with Punk Hazard). I would like to love Fishman Island Arc in this new edited version and not die of boredom by force watching several episodes every few days like I had with the old one (there were also good moments but still).

Nov 6, 7:18 AM

#83

Ranxomare

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Hilarious first episode, and full of memories!!
The intensity of the emotions were not the same that I watched this arc the first time, but emotion was there!!!
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Nov 7, 11:33 PM

#84

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I like the new visuals and pacing. The missing scenes aren’t too important anyway, so it still works well. I don’t think I’d rewatch this arc, but since it’s been redone, I’m looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

Nov 8, 12:29 PM

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Toki15

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i love it so much ahhhhhh

Nov 9, 8:53 AM

#86

Ederurlo

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Nov 2023

Absolutley 100% deserved break for OP. As a relativly new fan, there's not really nostalgia accossiated with this but it's nice that we still get content even though it is partially re-used. The quality is a bit grainy but otherwise no complaints! Cinema

Nov 10, 12:52 AM

#87

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I was initially not fond of the idea of a Fish man island remake but this just put a big smile on my face.
There's something magical about seeing the Straw hats together pre dressrosa haha. The colours are so vibrant and the Opening sung by the VAs is such a good choice.
The ending is really amazing, It's gonna grow on me for sure.

Nov 10, 7:38 AM

#88

ANIDOG123

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great start to a arc!

Nov 11, 12:10 PM

#89

papelpicado

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Wow, they are really blitzing through this stuff... there's no real sense of space, moments are over before they've even began, even one of the very first scenes where Luffy picks his straw hat back up after years felt completely rushed, with no real sense of solemnity, excitement, gravitas, any drama or spirit at all. I'm still slightly optimistic that the pace will smooth out in later episodes, but man, that was rushed as hell.

Nov 19, 8:21 PM

#90

Vindicater

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@GreatCarerJack

What?

Sanji is fine. What is wrong with you.

Nov 22, 2:43 PM

#91

Foxtsune

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This is so beautiful. I hope they remake the older arcs

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