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Oct 23, 2022 12:20 PM
#51
LoganSpirit said: lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. yes he cant wait a little more the world hes in doesn't have to run on our morals dont forget that the series is in a medieval time setting That's the point, that world doesn't run with our morals, but he does, he knows it's wrong and disgusting but still he can't help himself. How can I root for a guy like that? he never said he ran on our worlds morals he didn't even live in our world for that long considering the fact that he shut himself in for like 25 years by himself Just because he was a shutin for 25 years doesn't mean he doesn't know how our world works, all that time he had access to the Internet, he surely knew well what was happening in the world and it's morals and also he had at least like 16/17 in the outside world, he does have experience in it. he does but the thing is why ruin the fun for yourself and have to limit yourself to rules and morals that no one else follows no one found his pervertedness wrong in the world he incarnated into which means it isnt that rare now if he when he becomes an adult went after children that would be weird but if he had to wait 18 years just to experience love the story would just be flawed I can't enjoy it given that I have these morals, it's just wrong. He doesn't even admit that he's been reincarnated, if he at some point told them who he really was and they accepted him, I would see it in another light, but he can't even admit that and to me that makes it even worse given how they don't even know the real him. he doesnt acknowledge his past life at all he tries his hardest to not even associate with it whenever the Hitogami talks to him you see him disgusted by being in that body so in my opinion he's only hiding it out of disgust of his old self |
Oct 23, 2022 12:22 PM
#52
Eh. I still love this show, 9/10 in my eyes. But that’s partially because I’ve become numb to anime’s bs, like rampant pedophilia and too much fanservice. But I can totally see why Rudeus might disgust people to the point where they can’t enjoy the show, and I don’t see how they’d be wrong for that at all. |
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Oct 23, 2022 12:25 PM
#53
lume_n said: LoliKnight38 said: lume_n said: did anyone actually get the point of this series? like you all watched it and didn't get the actual point of it? rudeus was meant to be a flawed character he isnt your usual shitty isekai mc he has a major flaw that he even knows about and tries to fix his pervertedness is the only thing people mention when trying to diss rudeus do people know anything else about him or did they like get scared off the first episode and put watched just to be able to give it a score of 5/10 disregarding the great characters and moments in the series I've rewatched this anime 4 times so far and read the manga and light novel and can say its one of if not the best isekai out there full of sweet moments rudeus's pervertedness makes the sweet moments even sweeter like that scene from the second cour where eris tries to comfort rudeus but doesn't know how to that shit was really fucking sweet and rudeus will only continue to mature i read both the wn and the manga, the anime does a pretty good job of telling the life story of a the man rudeus, some ppl just don't get that he is mentally just a teenager, like bro became a shut-in since he was like 15 years old, since that he didn't have a social life or stuff, so he is basically mentally 15, and ppl just get stuck to this physical age and call the show a pedophile promoting show while it's literally just a story of a child becoming an adult it's been over a year since i finished the books i enjoyed it quite a lot it after I finished them it motivated me to improve myself (plan to read the ln too) I watched the first cour of the anime a few months after its release it was fucking good it managed to attract me harder than any other series after that I read the manga and instantly started reading the light novel I usually prefer web novels since they are more straight to the point most of the time but I still enjoyed the light novel (I didn't even know the web novel existed lmao) this series inspired me to take up writing as a hobby one day i watched p1 weekly then read the manga, after few months couldn't take the monthly wait and picked up the WN, read till vol 12 putted it on hold cuz didn't have time to read. then last year on september? i think it was, i started reading again and managed to read the last 12 volumes within a month enjoyed it so much but heard the ln is way better so plan to get onto that too. i might even go to say it's my fav series oat |
Oct 23, 2022 12:25 PM
#54
lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. yes he cant wait a little more the world hes in doesn't have to run on our morals dont forget that the series is in a medieval time setting That's the point, that world doesn't run with our morals, but he does, he knows it's wrong and disgusting but still he can't help himself. How can I root for a guy like that? he never said he ran on our worlds morals he didn't even live in our world for that long considering the fact that he shut himself in for like 25 years by himself Just because he was a shutin for 25 years doesn't mean he doesn't know how our world works, all that time he had access to the Internet, he surely knew well what was happening in the world and it's morals and also he had at least like 16/17 in the outside world, he does have experience in it. he does but the thing is why ruin the fun for yourself and have to limit yourself to rules and morals that no one else follows no one found his pervertedness wrong in the world he incarnated into which means it isnt that rare now if he when he becomes an adult went after children that would be weird but if he had to wait 18 years just to experience love the story would just be flawed I can't enjoy it given that I have these morals, it's just wrong. He doesn't even admit that he's been reincarnated, if he at some point told them who he really was and they accepted him, I would see it in another light, but he can't even admit that and to me that makes it even worse given how they don't even know the real him. he doesnt acknowledge his past life at all he tries his hardest to not even associate with it whenever the Hitogami talks to him you see him disgusted by being in that body so in my opinion he's only hiding it out of disgust of his old self To me that's no excuse, he should own up to his past life, using it as an excuse to not tell anyone who he really is is simply cowardice. The fact he's disgusted with his past body should have been a clue for him to cast away everything that's rotten which include his disgusting behavior towards children, he can't just have it the way he wants, either cast it all away or assume it and come clean. |
Oct 23, 2022 12:25 PM
#55
Sounds like cope to me, author wanted to make him a lolicon and was inspired by stuff like Rance. lol |
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Oct 23, 2022 12:28 PM
#56
I got the point and I still consider the series just fine. I also respect Rudy and his flaws, not his pedophilic tendencies of course but it's fiction, and so it's curable. That being said, he's not that special so far. He might be for others and congratulations, not for me though. Personally, when I'm watching an isekai I'm more interested in politics, economics, diplomatic relations, people with different backgrounds coming together, creative fights, etc. I don't care about a 40 year-old virgin lolicon trying to improve himself in a kid's body and having sweet moments using his perversion. I don't judge people who have this interest though, different strokes for different folks. |
Oct 23, 2022 12:31 PM
#57
lume_n said: Adampk said: Even if u rewatched 5 times u didn't pick up what i noticed it. It gloss over the actual flaw tbh. like how how they made evil friends to show first life rudeus's compassion and how great rudeus is for talking about reaching out to even those kind of people if he had chance in next life. All of this while straight out ignoring his treatment to his parent of that life from the narrative lol. I am pretty sure that was also the most beloved episode of this series uptill now. It more like let's not blame rudeus because author is a perv his treatment to his parents and other people like his siblings get explained later on might be in the next season too who knows That wouldn't make that episode better though since that was the point where we needed to focus of parent instead of evil friend. As for if that gets touched upon in later episode, it's a matter of execution and how it is used there too. So I can only wait for it. As for other flaws of the anime this reddit perfectly capsulate my thoughts https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/lplses/mushoku_tensei_is_a_lot_more_problematic_than/ |
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Oct 23, 2022 12:34 PM
#58
LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. >Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season >9/10 In case you didn't know Eren killed millions of people including children and babies and all that for a pussy If you wanna talk about morals Rudeus is infinitely better human being |
Oct 23, 2022 12:37 PM
#59
BLACKANGER said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. >Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season >9/10 In case you didn't know Eren killed millions of people including children and babies and all that for a pussy If you wanna talk about morals Rudeus is infinitely better human being You think because I gave it a 9/10 it means I agree with what Eren did? I'm firmly against genocide, while I was reading the manga I was always rooting against Eren. If this was your way of trying to get me you failed miserably lmao |
Oct 23, 2022 12:37 PM
#60
Yeah let’s root for a 40 yo incest pedo! |
Oct 23, 2022 12:47 PM
#61
@LoganSpirit - I mean, you're not supposed to view him as a pedo in any realistic sense, the intent is to view him as a lolicon in the same sense as the viewer if they have any sexual thoughts toward characters like Eris. Still controversial, but I think it's an important distinction. Personally, I think it's silly to over think a contradictory existence like "adult male in child's body" but I digress. |
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Oct 23, 2022 12:50 PM
#62
LostSpectre said: @LoganSpirit - I mean, you're not supposed to view him as a pedo in any realistic sense, the intent is to view him as a lolicon in the same sense as the viewer if they have any sexual thoughts toward characters like Eris. Still controversial, but I think it's an important distinction. Personally, I think it's silly to over think a contradictory existence like "adult male in child's body" but I digress. To me a lolicon is someone who likes lolis (lolis aren't exclusively children, more commonly it's adult females with childlike proportions)and a pedophile is someone who is attracted to children, which in Rudeus case he is, to me that's not a hard distinction to make. |
Oct 23, 2022 12:57 PM
#63
LoganSpirit said: LostSpectre said: @LoganSpirit - I mean, you're not supposed to view him as a pedo in any realistic sense, the intent is to view him as a lolicon in the same sense as the viewer if they have any sexual thoughts toward characters like Eris. Still controversial, but I think it's an important distinction. Personally, I think it's silly to over think a contradictory existence like "adult male in child's body" but I digress. To me a lolicon is someone who likes lolis (lolis aren't exclusively children, more commonly it's adult females with childlike proportions)and a pedophile is someone who is attracted to children, which in Rudeus case he is, to me that's not a hard distinction to make. There's also nothing that says a loli has to be an adult though, and I'm saying it's meta-contextual, he's a pedophile in story terms, but in realistic terms he is not treated with the level of scrutiny of a real pedophile, because the intent is for him to be more like a mirror to viewers with lolicon interests. It's not uncommon for real concepts to be treated similarly in fiction, where direct comparisons aren't necessarily accurate. |
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Oct 23, 2022 1:01 PM
#64
LostSpectre said: LoganSpirit said: LostSpectre said: @LoganSpirit - I mean, you're not supposed to view him as a pedo in any realistic sense, the intent is to view him as a lolicon in the same sense as the viewer if they have any sexual thoughts toward characters like Eris. Still controversial, but I think it's an important distinction. Personally, I think it's silly to over think a contradictory existence like "adult male in child's body" but I digress. To me a lolicon is someone who likes lolis (lolis aren't exclusively children, more commonly it's adult females with childlike proportions)and a pedophile is someone who is attracted to children, which in Rudeus case he is, to me that's not a hard distinction to make. There's also nothing that says a loli has to be an adult though, and I'm saying it's meta-contextual, he's a pedophile in story terms, but in realistic terms he is not treated with the level of scrutiny of a real pedophile, because the intent is for him to be more like a mirror to viewers with lolicon interests. It's not uncommon for real concepts to be treated similarly in fiction, where direct comparisons aren't necessarily accurate. I never said lolis are only adult women, read the previous message pls for clarification. If he was only interested and didn't have any sexual interest in the children I wouldn't judge him, because most lolicons aren't sexually attracted to children, but in his case he's a textbook pedophile, to me there's no going around that fact. |
Oct 23, 2022 1:02 PM
#65
LoganSpirit said: LostSpectre said: LoganSpirit said: LostSpectre said: @LoganSpirit - I mean, you're not supposed to view him as a pedo in any realistic sense, the intent is to view him as a lolicon in the same sense as the viewer if they have any sexual thoughts toward characters like Eris. Still controversial, but I think it's an important distinction. Personally, I think it's silly to over think a contradictory existence like "adult male in child's body" but I digress. To me a lolicon is someone who likes lolis (lolis aren't exclusively children, more commonly it's adult females with childlike proportions)and a pedophile is someone who is attracted to children, which in Rudeus case he is, to me that's not a hard distinction to make. There's also nothing that says a loli has to be an adult though, and I'm saying it's meta-contextual, he's a pedophile in story terms, but in realistic terms he is not treated with the level of scrutiny of a real pedophile, because the intent is for him to be more like a mirror to viewers with lolicon interests. It's not uncommon for real concepts to be treated similarly in fiction, where direct comparisons aren't necessarily accurate. I never said lolis are only adult women, read the previous message pls for clarification. If he was only interested and didn't have any sexual interest in the children I wouldn't judge him, because most lolicons aren't sexually attracted to children, but in his case he's a textbook pedophile, to me there's no going around that fact. You're either not getting my point or just ignoring it, in either case we'll just leave it at that. |
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Oct 23, 2022 1:04 PM
#66
LostSpectre said: LoganSpirit said: LostSpectre said: LoganSpirit said: LostSpectre said: @LoganSpirit - I mean, you're not supposed to view him as a pedo in any realistic sense, the intent is to view him as a lolicon in the same sense as the viewer if they have any sexual thoughts toward characters like Eris. Still controversial, but I think it's an important distinction. Personally, I think it's silly to over think a contradictory existence like "adult male in child's body" but I digress. To me a lolicon is someone who likes lolis (lolis aren't exclusively children, more commonly it's adult females with childlike proportions)and a pedophile is someone who is attracted to children, which in Rudeus case he is, to me that's not a hard distinction to make. There's also nothing that says a loli has to be an adult though, and I'm saying it's meta-contextual, he's a pedophile in story terms, but in realistic terms he is not treated with the level of scrutiny of a real pedophile, because the intent is for him to be more like a mirror to viewers with lolicon interests. It's not uncommon for real concepts to be treated similarly in fiction, where direct comparisons aren't necessarily accurate. I never said lolis are only adult women, read the previous message pls for clarification. If he was only interested and didn't have any sexual interest in the children I wouldn't judge him, because most lolicons aren't sexually attracted to children, but in his case he's a textbook pedophile, to me there's no going around that fact. You're either not getting my point or just ignoring it, in either case we'll just leave it at that. I get what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with it, in my eyes he's a pedophile, I can't just see him as simply a lolicon when he has sexual urges and acts on those urges against children. |
Oct 23, 2022 1:29 PM
#67
LoganSpirit said: lume_n said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. yes he cant wait a little more the world hes in doesn't have to run on our morals dont forget that the series is in a medieval time setting That's the point, that world doesn't run with our morals, but he does, he knows it's wrong and disgusting but still he can't help himself. How can I root for a guy like that? thank god there's people like you. he KNOWS he's doing something extremely bad, his mind is 30+ yo and even if his body isn't at the same age, his love interest should be on pair with his mind. it would have been interesting to see his moral dilemma once those girls grow up but he still view them as kids, but nope no problem at all apparently. |
Oct 23, 2022 1:47 PM
#68
I get where everyone is going but we can't ignore the fact that everyone hates on this show because of Rudeus he might be a pedophile in the show but just because of that you can't hate on a show. |
Oct 23, 2022 1:56 PM
#69
actually Rudeus being a pedophile wasnt really my main problem with the series (an yes its was gross when those scenes showed up) but rather the fact that nothing interesting was going on through a bunch of episodes, i was hoping for a time skip when suddenly the teleportation scene happened, i disliked the red haired heroine even more than Rudeus himself, she was so annoying like goddamn it was like the author went out of his way to create the worst possible character, absolute bottom of the barrel just so she can easily improve later just by making her less of a bitch i still enjoyed the show for the most part even though |
Oct 23, 2022 2:03 PM
#70
silversaint said: actually Rudeus being a pedophile wasnt really my main problem with the series (an yes its was gross when those scenes showed up) but rather the fact that nothing interesting was going on through a bunch of episodes, i was hoping for a time skip when suddenly the teleportation scene happened, i disliked the red haired heroine even more than Rudeus himself, she was so annoying like goddamn it was like the author went out of his way to create the worst possible character, absolute bottom of the barrel just so she can easily improve later just by making her less of a bitch i still enjoyed the show for the most part even though The stuff your hoping for will come in the next two seasons. |
Oct 23, 2022 2:14 PM
#71
Oct 23, 2022 2:15 PM
#72
LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. Not a pedophile cry |
Oct 23, 2022 2:17 PM
#73
LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Shut the fuck up retarded kid |
Oct 23, 2022 2:18 PM
#74
Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. Not a pedophile cry Kinda weird defending a pedophile, but hey you do you. |
Oct 23, 2022 2:18 PM
#75
minatosfool said: Yeah let’s root for a 40 yo incest pedo! Better than your loser cuck 😂😂😂😂 |
Oct 23, 2022 2:18 PM
#76
LoganSpirit said: Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. Not a pedophile cry Kinda weird defending a pedophile, but hey you do you. Not a pedophile cry retard lol |
Oct 23, 2022 2:19 PM
#77
Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Shut the fuck up retarded kid You're just sad smh. |
Oct 23, 2022 2:21 PM
#78
Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: cringe retarded sjwNanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Shut the fuck up retarded kid You're just sad smh. I'm the furthest thing from a SJW, just a normal guy who hates pedophiles like Rudeus is. |
Oct 23, 2022 3:13 PM
#79
LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. You’re not wrong there 😂 |
Oct 23, 2022 3:29 PM
#80
LoganSpirit said: Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Shut the fuck up retarded kid You're just sad smh. The way you you wrote that made it seem like he was going at it with different kids when clearly he did it the one time because Eris wanted to do it with him but since he was thirsty and couldn't wait till 15 he did it ether way. I'm not saying that him being a pedophile is good it's obviously bad but most of the time he was hitting on grown ass women only time was eris through out the entire show. He is a 40 year old man that's in a new body and trying to make better life choices of course he wants to forget about his past life because how bad they did him in school. I have much more to say but it doesn't matter at this point. |
Oct 23, 2022 3:38 PM
#81
er_ror said: LoganSpirit said: Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Shut the fuck up retarded kid You're just sad smh. The way you you wrote that made it seem like he was going at it with different kids when clearly he did it the one time because Eris wanted to do it with him but since he was thirsty and couldn't wait till 15 he did it ether way. I'm not saying that him being a pedophile is good it's obviously bad but most of the time he was hitting on grown ass women only time was eris through out the entire show. He is a 40 year old man that's in a new body and trying to make better life choices of course he wants to forget about his past life because how bad they did him in school. I have much more to say but it doesn't matter at this point. I'm not saying he was exclusively hitting on children, I'm just saying that the fact that he does is disgusting and he only made moves on Eris because she was with him most of the time, because if Sylphy was with them he would 100% go after her too. |
Oct 23, 2022 3:42 PM
#82
you dont just stop being a pedo lol |
Oct 23, 2022 3:55 PM
#83
LoganSpirit said: er_ror said: LoganSpirit said: Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Shut the fuck up retarded kid You're just sad smh. The way you you wrote that made it seem like he was going at it with different kids when clearly he did it the one time because Eris wanted to do it with him but since he was thirsty and couldn't wait till 15 he did it ether way. I'm not saying that him being a pedophile is good it's obviously bad but most of the time he was hitting on grown ass women only time was eris through out the entire show. He is a 40 year old man that's in a new body and trying to make better life choices of course he wants to forget about his past life because how bad they did him in school. I have much more to say but it doesn't matter at this point. I'm not saying he was exclusively hitting on children, I'm just saying that the fact that he does is disgusting and he only made moves on Eris because she was with him most of the time, because if Sylphy was with them he would 100% go after her too. Maybe your opinion on him in the upcoming seasons might change yk because the pedophile side of him goes away. |
Oct 23, 2022 4:25 PM
#84
lume_n said: Awwww- said: Tho that is part of his character, it doesn’t mean it’s just ok to do what he does. Some people just feel disgust at his actions which ruins them the rest of the series. It’s not everyone that can accept that he started a new life in another world, and that he is trying his best to be a better person, after all he did try to do it with a minor, despite having the memories of a 40 years old man. Having said that, I do agree with your statement, and do believe it is the best isekai. a 40 year old man who lived half his life in shelter all alone i don't think he was really that old mentally in pre being reincarnated yes he was on a level of intellect to be able to make rational decisions but those were only rational for a child not an adult if he was a great adult who was intellectual he would've thought to look for his family on the demon continent which proves he still isn't mature in the anime Well his lack of social life and him being immature doesn’t change the fact that at heart he is a 40 years old man, and still sees himself as such. |
I may have forgotten. |
Oct 23, 2022 4:33 PM
#85
minatosfool said: Yeah let’s root for a 40 yo incest pedo! I understand why you would call him a pedo. however he clearly stated that he felt no sexual attraction to his mother, and showed no signs of attraction to either of his little sisters. And if your thinking of Eris, it’s mentioned that she is a distant reletive, and it’s not rare for twice removed cousins to get together especially in in small villages. |
I may have forgotten. |
Oct 23, 2022 4:50 PM
#86
lume_n said: did anyone actually get the point of this series? like you all watched it and didn't get the actual point of it? rudeus was meant to be a flawed character he isnt your usual shitty isekai mc he has a major flaw that he even knows about and tries to fix his pervertedness is the only thing people mention when trying to diss rudeus do people know anything else about him or did they like get scared off the first episode and put watched just to be able to give it a score of 5/10 disregarding the great characters and moments in the series I've rewatched this anime 4 times so far and read the manga and light novel and can say its one of if not the best isekai out there full of sweet moments rudeus's pervertedness makes the sweet moments even sweeter like that scene from the second cour where eris tries to comfort rudeus but doesn't know how to that shit was really fucking sweet and rudeus will only continue to mature No, I get the point. It’s a tainted hero’s journey that masks itself as a “redemption” story, when it’s really just an excuse to have badly written male wish fulfillment with sexual themes, that are way worse than the average big boobs type of clichés, littered all over the damn story—no mattter if it’s the main character or background setting. |
Oct 23, 2022 4:51 PM
#87
er_ror said: LoganSpirit said: er_ror said: LoganSpirit said: Nanzashi99 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Shut the fuck up retarded kid You're just sad smh. The way you you wrote that made it seem like he was going at it with different kids when clearly he did it the one time because Eris wanted to do it with him but since he was thirsty and couldn't wait till 15 he did it ether way. I'm not saying that him being a pedophile is good it's obviously bad but most of the time he was hitting on grown ass women only time was eris through out the entire show. He is a 40 year old man that's in a new body and trying to make better life choices of course he wants to forget about his past life because how bad they did him in school. I have much more to say but it doesn't matter at this point. I'm not saying he was exclusively hitting on children, I'm just saying that the fact that he does is disgusting and he only made moves on Eris because she was with him most of the time, because if Sylphy was with them he would 100% go after her too. Maybe your opinion on him in the upcoming seasons might change yk because the pedophile side of him goes away. Maybe, if something happens with which he's able to make up for the acts he committed I might change my opinion of him, but until then this is my stance. |
Oct 23, 2022 6:15 PM
#88
ecliptyk said: lume_n said: ecliptyk said: lume_n said: did anyone actually get the point of this series? like you all watched it and didn't get the actual point of it? rudeus was meant to be a flawed character he isnt your usual shitty isekai mc he has a major flaw that he even knows about and tries to fix his pervertedness is the only thing people mention when trying to diss rudeus do people know anything else about him or did they like get scared off the first episode and put watched just to be able to give it a score of 5/10 disregarding the great characters and moments in the series I've rewatched this anime 4 times so far and read the manga and light novel and can say its one of if not the best isekai out there full of sweet moments rudeus's pervertedness makes the sweet moments even sweeter like that scene from the second cour where eris tries to comfort rudeus but doesn't know how to that shit was really fucking sweet and rudeus will only continue to mature No I got the point, it's still mediocre and cliche despite trying to distinguish itself on a superficial level. It's simply not a good Heroes Journey when most of the journey is comprised of half baked dynamics and overly sexualized characters. I think the Monogatari series is a much better representation of the same idea. Not only visually but also in the execution of it's ideas and the complexity of the characters. you say cliche but the anime is cliche but the light novel brought that cliche into isekai it was the first one to do the isekai genre good the characters are "half cooked" because the series isn't even at the 40% point of being done its that simple You've had 24 episodes to create a strong compelling dynamic, the percentage of completion sbould not matter at this point lol. To reference the other series again, Bakemonogatari took just 2 episodes to establish a strong a dynamic, introduce the the main character and explore a side character (Senjougahara) psychologically in extensive depth. MT has yet to even accomplish was Bake did in 2 episodes so what makes me think the rest will be good? It's clearly just bad writing. Monogatari and Mushoku Tensei aren't even close to being similar, so I don't get the comparition between those series, like, they aren't even in the same genres for them to do the exact same thing. |
Oct 23, 2022 6:52 PM
#89
LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. I mean look at literature. Huck Finn if you haven’t read it has a main character thats pretty dislikable. Yet this is used to impart some big themes and messages, and you probably do root for Huck throughout the story even though he is racist, selfish, etc. This is a book read in thousands of middle and high schools and is a staple of American literature |
Oct 23, 2022 6:53 PM
#90
LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Man I bet you were horrified by Erased |
Oct 23, 2022 6:55 PM
#91
ecliptyk said: lume_n said: did anyone actually get the point of this series? like you all watched it and didn't get the actual point of it? rudeus was meant to be a flawed character he isnt your usual shitty isekai mc he has a major flaw that he even knows about and tries to fix his pervertedness is the only thing people mention when trying to diss rudeus do people know anything else about him or did they like get scared off the first episode and put watched just to be able to give it a score of 5/10 disregarding the great characters and moments in the series I've rewatched this anime 4 times so far and read the manga and light novel and can say its one of if not the best isekai out there full of sweet moments rudeus's pervertedness makes the sweet moments even sweeter like that scene from the second cour where eris tries to comfort rudeus but doesn't know how to that shit was really fucking sweet and rudeus will only continue to mature No I got the point, it's still mediocre and cliche despite trying to distinguish itself on a superficial level. It's simply not a good Heroes Journey when most of the journey is comprised of half baked dynamics and overly sexualized characters. I think the Monogatari series is a much better representation of the same idea. Not only visually but also in the execution of it's ideas and the complexity of the characters. It is now cliche but it was actually like the root of isekai and all the accompanying tropes. It just got the spotlight after the media it itself inspired |
Oct 23, 2022 6:57 PM
#92
Oct 23, 2022 7:01 PM
#93
Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. I mean look at literature. Huck Finn if you haven’t read it has a main character thats pretty dislikable. Yet this is used to impart some big themes and messages, and you probably do root for Huck throughout the story even though he is racist, selfish, etc. This is a book read in thousands of middle and high schools and is a staple of American literature I haven't read that book and that has no correlation to this story, Rudeus is simply a disgusting human being in my eyes for the actions he committed. |
Oct 23, 2022 7:01 PM
#94
Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. I mean look at literature. Huck Finn if you haven’t read it has a main character thats pretty dislikable. Yet this is used to impart some big themes and messages, and you probably do root for Huck throughout the story even though he is racist, selfish, etc. This is a book read in thousands of middle and high schools and is a staple of American literature I haven't read that book and that has no correlation to this story, Rudeus is simply a disgusting human being in my eyes for the actions he committed. |
Oct 23, 2022 7:02 PM
#95
LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Well I dunno if you would be able to change as you think Rudeus should probably cause it's almost not possible to just forget everything about yourself and how your mind worked.Is it? Put yourself in that scenario and think like if you could change yourself completely? It's not easy man. To just format yourself and reinstall the OS and become a new system like a computer.... He is trying to change as you can see from the progression and the ending of second season.... I hope he develops and becomes more mature in future too. And please let's leave it at this. If you have to say something you can as you wish I dunno I would be able to see it now cause I am gonna sleep. Gud night ☺️ I 100% know that if I was put in his place I would not chase after children with sexual intent. But that's just me, I'm just a adult male attracted to adult women, but I guess I must be in the minority here seeing how the other way around seems to be more acceptable in that situation. Listen. A good show is not about a likable character. That might put you off but seeing the development of morally bad characters and the themes portrayed throughout this journey are what makes a good story. At least for me |
Oct 23, 2022 7:02 PM
#96
Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Man I bet you were horrified by Erased I haven't seen Erased. |
Oct 23, 2022 7:03 PM
#97
Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: Madhav001 said: LoganSpirit said: FlavoredTakoyaki said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. He’s a kid again and tries to change that behavior???? Or did you think you were saying something here that was logical… He's a kid only in his appearance, he's still a grown man and in my eyes a grown man attracted to children is a pedophile. Did you get my logic this time or do I need to dumb it down for you even further? Come on man he can't go and marry a women now even if he likes her..... His body is not as old.... So he had to change his thought process to be like a child who is pretty intelligent and mature minded..... Or can he run behind older women? You're telling me he had no choice but to go after children? Couldn't he just wait until he was 18 and go after women? The dude spent his entire original life a virgin and couldn't wait a little more? In my eyes I can't find a way to accept his behavior. Why are you telling 'Go after children' like he is kidnapping them? LOL 😅 Children too like each other.... I think that's pretty normal....He is trying to be normal which in the earlier episode he wasn't. And about becoming 18.... he still would be the same age gap to the person he likes now wouldn't he? He does go after children tho, he has sex with them which is worse than just kidnapping them. He's not normal, he's a man which just happens to have a child's body, and the age thing doesn't really matter when it's over 18, they are both adults. Well I dunno if you would be able to change as you think Rudeus should probably cause it's almost not possible to just forget everything about yourself and how your mind worked.Is it? Put yourself in that scenario and think like if you could change yourself completely? It's not easy man. To just format yourself and reinstall the OS and become a new system like a computer.... He is trying to change as you can see from the progression and the ending of second season.... I hope he develops and becomes more mature in future too. And please let's leave it at this. If you have to say something you can as you wish I dunno I would be able to see it now cause I am gonna sleep. Gud night ☺️ I 100% know that if I was put in his place I would not chase after children with sexual intent. But that's just me, I'm just a adult male attracted to adult women, but I guess I must be in the minority here seeing how the other way around seems to be more acceptable in that situation. Listen. A good show is not about a likable character. That might put you off but seeing the development of morally bad characters and the themes portrayed throughout this journey are what makes a good story. At least for me He doesn't have to be likeable, to me he just needs some human decency, which he clearly doesn't have. |
Oct 23, 2022 7:04 PM
#98
LoganSpirit said: Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. I mean look at literature. Huck Finn if you haven’t read it has a main character thats pretty dislikable. Yet this is used to impart some big themes and messages, and you probably do root for Huck throughout the story even though he is racist, selfish, etc. This is a book read in thousands of middle and high schools and is a staple of American literature I haven't read that book and that has no correlation to this story, Rudeus is simply a disgusting human being in my eyes for the actions he committed. I see that you are participating in this discussion despite no intention to think about other points of view so I’m gonna head out |
Oct 23, 2022 7:05 PM
#99
Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. I mean look at literature. Huck Finn if you haven’t read it has a main character thats pretty dislikable. Yet this is used to impart some big themes and messages, and you probably do root for Huck throughout the story even though he is racist, selfish, etc. This is a book read in thousands of middle and high schools and is a staple of American literature I haven't read that book and that has no correlation to this story, Rudeus is simply a disgusting human being in my eyes for the actions he committed. I see that you are participating in this discussion despite no intention to think about other points of view so I’m gonna head out There is no other way to look at this without reaching the conclusion that he's a pedophile. You won't be able to change my mind in this matter. |
Oct 23, 2022 7:09 PM
#100
LoganSpirit said: Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Hydra80 said: LoganSpirit said: Kinda hard to root for a pedophile, but I guess that's just me. I mean look at literature. Huck Finn if you haven’t read it has a main character thats pretty dislikable. Yet this is used to impart some big themes and messages, and you probably do root for Huck throughout the story even though he is racist, selfish, etc. This is a book read in thousands of middle and high schools and is a staple of American literature I haven't read that book and that has no correlation to this story, Rudeus is simply a disgusting human being in my eyes for the actions he committed. I see that you are participating in this discussion despite no intention to think about other points of view so I’m gonna head out There is no other way to look at this without reaching the conclusion that he's a pedophile. You won't be able to change my mind in this matter. Ok. You’re right, he is a pedophile. But I’m arguing that this doesn’t make the story bad and could even enhance it. |
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