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Oct 21, 2021 1:19 PM

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AyemRivaille said:
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you're like the 4th person who said this, so i'll just copy and paste my other reply

"to me that hardly matters

if anything it made mushoku more interesting, since it meant along side it being a good fantasy, it was also a good redemption story. also i don't like characters who have 0 bad things about them. that's one of the biggest reasons i disliked demon slayer for example."
"to me that hardly matters" well, to you. As you can see its not only 1 person that mention something like that, so its 'to you'🤷‍♀️


the fact that i didn't mind that in mushoku is my opinion true, but the fact that, that is the smallest possible difference is just fact.

when i say different, and when i asked this question, i wanted something "different". i wanted something that makes a big difference, to the whole show.

i will watch the show, just because i almost never drop anything, but most people didn't give me the hook i was looking for. most people were just like "yeah the mc is a different character", no shit it's a different character, that's the bare minimum. just because it's not a complete copy and paste, it doesn't make it unique.

to me, "it's like mushoku tensei, but the characters are different", is not nearly good enough.

so far, the only thing that i'm interested in, in this show, is the religious backgrounds, since that's an actual thing that i haven't seen many shows dive into. at least not too deeply.

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Oct 21, 2021 1:23 PM

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AyemRivaille said:
arshiapolygons2 said:


you're like the 4th person who said this, so i'll just copy and paste my other reply

"to me that hardly matters

if anything it made mushoku more interesting, since it meant along side it being a good fantasy, it was also a good redemption story. also i don't like characters who have 0 bad things about them. that's one of the biggest reasons i disliked demon slayer for example."
"to me that hardly matters" well, to you. As you can see its not only 1 person that mention something like that, so its 'to you'🤷‍♀️


oh also, did you just make this account to make this comment and give aot a 10/10?

if that's the case at least give the final season a 10 too lol.

show steins gate some love too while you're at it.
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Oct 21, 2021 1:28 PM

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Danah_Anime said:
Anime fans are so funny because they will see a classic fantasy story and be like IS THIS MUSHOKU TENSEI???? like cmon guys try to branch out of anime? just for a bit? read Tolkien maybe?


it's an isekai,

the mc starts from being a new born

we get a training ark of him getting both magic and swordsman training, but he is better at magic

we get time skips of him growing up

it's a fantasy, set at medieval times

he's gardiens are retired (in this one also undead) adventurers

i haven't seen ep 2 yet, but for one episode you have to admit that's a ton of similarities
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Oct 21, 2021 1:35 PM

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alshu said:
And the conclusion is - you don't argue with Mushoku Tensei fans.
There is no way to explain to them that "reborn as infant", "teaches how to fight and use magic", "exploits some knowledge from his/her previous life" and "there are time skips" are unique.


i mean.... they aren't unique?

mushoku used like all those same things, but better, even though the better part was mostly due to it's top tier production and direction.

also i don't know what you mean by "mushoku fans". the show is like in my top 30.... out of like the around 150 anime that i have watched. i think it's good, and had a much stronger first episode than this, but that's not because i'm a "mushoku fan".

unless by fan you mean just liking the show, in which case then yes i am a fan.
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arshiapolygons2 said:
Danah_Anime said:
Anime fans are so funny because they will see a classic fantasy story and be like IS THIS MUSHOKU TENSEI???? like cmon guys try to branch out of anime? just for a bit? read Tolkien maybe?


it's an isekai,

the mc starts from being a new born

we get a training ark of him getting both magic and swordsman training, but he is better at magic

we get time skips of him growing up

it's a fantasy, set at medieval times

he's gardiens are retired (in this one also undead) adventurers

i haven't seen ep 2 yet, but for one episode you have to admit that's a ton of similarities


Dude you just literally listed the Isekai Formula. Almost every Shounen Isekai reincarnation story has those exact same plot points happening in that exact same order. MC dies and then reincarnates into a world with magic and swords and then meets a mentor figure who shows him the ropes.

Mushoku Tensei did nothing unique and nothing interesting with that formula. It just slapped the most obnoxious and unloveable main character into that formula and called it a day,

At least Saihate no Paladin went for a dark fantasy aesthetic choice reminiscent of that of Dark Souls and Berserk. Mushoku Tensei just went with the vanilla medieval setting.
Oct 21, 2021 3:02 PM

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arshiapolygons2 said:

they aren't unique?

Wow, someone actually read my post and got the irony?

arshiapolygons2 said:
mushoku used like all those same things, but better

Naaah, man.
Mushoku Tensei is kind of average...but its fans can't see that from their perspective.

arshiapolygons2 said:
even though the better part was mostly due to it's top tier production and direction.

You are killing me here especially with "direction"...tho the visuals are OK-ish.
Oct 21, 2021 3:37 PM

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Danah_Anime said:
arshiapolygons2 said:


it's an isekai,

the mc starts from being a new born

we get a training ark of him getting both magic and swordsman training, but he is better at magic

we get time skips of him growing up

it's a fantasy, set at medieval times

he's gardiens are retired (in this one also undead) adventurers

i haven't seen ep 2 yet, but for one episode you have to admit that's a ton of similarities


Dude you just literally listed the Isekai Formula. Almost every Shounen Isekai reincarnation story has those exact same plot points happening in that exact same order. MC dies and then reincarnates into a world with magic and swords and then meets a mentor figure who shows him the ropes.

Mushoku Tensei did nothing unique and nothing interesting with that formula. It just slapped the most obnoxious and unloveable main character into that formula and called it a day,

At least Saihate no Paladin went for a dark fantasy aesthetic choice reminiscent of that of Dark Souls and Berserk. Mushoku Tensei just went with the vanilla medieval setting.


who said mushoku was any more original?

i think mushoku has better, production, direction and dialogue, but i never said it was more original. I don't think this copied mushoku or anything like that.

it's just that since i have already seen one show like this (mushoku) i was wondering, what extra thing i'm getting from watching this one.

if it's actually a dark souls like setting, that's the exact hook i was looking for, so thanks.
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Oct 21, 2021 3:49 PM

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alshu said:
arshiapolygons2 said:

they aren't unique?

Wow, someone actually read my post and got the irony?

arshiapolygons2 said:
mushoku used like all those same things, but better

Naaah, man.
Mushoku Tensei is kind of average...but its fans can't see that from their perspective.

arshiapolygons2 said:
even though the better part was mostly due to it's top tier production and direction.

You are killing me here especially with "direction"...tho the visuals are OK-ish.



yeah i get that it's not unique, when did i ever say it is? it's good, but not some never heard before concept, it's just a solid fantasy.

mushoku is average? you must have been watching some top tier anime. i mean it's not the best of the best, but average? you have some pretty high standards.

and i mean that, wtf is good looking if mushoku is ok-ish? i can't even begin to imagine what you would call impressive.

i mean i can't see your list, but damn, that's just way too harsh.

my comparing to mushoku is purely because i watched mushoku first. not because i think this copied it.

and the only reason i found it's first episode to be weaker are visuals, direction, and dialogue. like i don't know what is your standard for good. but come on, mushoku did all those things better than this show.

anyways to me this had 6.5/10 first episode,

and mushoku had a 8/10 first episode.

but then again, you have 5 average for your scores (mine is 6.5). so your average (5/10) is most likely the same as my 7/10.

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Oct 22, 2021 2:46 AM

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arshiapolygons2 said:

yeah i get that it's not unique, when did i ever say it is?

How about:

arshiapolygons2 said:
most isekai do have at least 1 unique thing about them

Which means that since you are Mushoku Tensei fan it must have one and more unique things and Saihate no Paladin doesn't.

arshiapolygons2 said:
it's just a solid fantasy

I fail to see a power fantasy show as solid fantasy.

arshiapolygons2 said:
you have some pretty high standards.

Not really but maybe its above average for isekai...which doesn't mean that isekai is bad by default, just that we are flooded with not so great titles.

arshiapolygons2 said:
and i mean that, wtf is good looking if mushoku is ok-ish? i can't even begin to imagine what you would call impressive

Not sure what your ideas about good visuals are, for example I can get impressed by things which look way way more simple and minimalistic, Mushoku Tensei just doesn't look extraordinary to me.

arshiapolygons2 said:
i mean i can't see your list, but damn, that's just way too harsh.

1. But I have 10 favourites on my profile and here's my full list of favourits - https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1115621&show=0#msg59097780
Take in account the years of production, like newer shows must but judged a bit harsher.
2. Really harsh would be to tell that I didn't like it at all...which is not true. Mushoku Tensei visually just doesn't go above my idea of what is average in nowadays anime.

arshiapolygons2 said:
but then again, you have 5 average for your scores (mine is 6.5). so your average (5/10) is most likely the same as my 7/10.

I think you are one of those people who take scoring way too seriously. I can't express my observations and opinions just giving such. Like I could love some aspects of a show but hate others, taking in account some context (genre, target demographics, production year...) ect. My scores doesn't mean much.
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Well I’m a light novel and manga reader and haven’t watched the anime yet put here’s my take on it based off of the plot alone…

1. There are different themes each work embodies. Main themes of Paladin are life and death, giving meaning to your life, and parting ways with those you care about. Mushoku Tensei is more about redemption, accepting who you are, adventuring and exploring.

2. I think a better description of paladin isn’t a isekai but more of Tolkien esque world. The atmosphere is a lot different as Paladin is a lot more ‘cold’ and unmoving compacted to the heartwarming and more lighthearted Mushoku. Paladin just feels more like a western fantasy novel compared to Mushoku, which has more in similar to rom com then a pure epic fantasy novel.

3. I don’t think this is a reason to drop a show are anything but some people care about the relationships that form in the story. Paladin draws more on Western fantasy and it’s relationships are mostly about brotherhood, fraternity, and finding family from those that are not related. Mushoku is more concerned about romantic relationships and immediate family relationships. I won’t say one is worse than another, but if you are looking for one or another, it’s probably better if you don’t watch either because Lord of the Rings or To Love Ru will serve you better if you are only watching an anime for what relationships they form. I think both stories do great at what they are trying to convey in terms of the people they meet so I don’t think you should judge based of it.

Overall, I get why people are put off by Rudeus’s character. But it’s part of its character arc and inherent to his character development. I think likewise that while Paladin starts out slow, it is a character and philosophical focused story. If you want my take, I think watching till the first fight with a god would be the best indicator if you like the story or not. That fight is a major climax in the story and you will get an indication if you like Paladin or not.
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Well I’m a light novel and manga reader and haven’t watched the anime yet put here’s my take on it based off of the plot alone…

1. There are different themes each work embodies. Main themes of Paladin are life and death, giving meaning to your life, and parting ways with those you care about. Mushoku Tensei is more about redemption, accepting who you are, adventuring and exploring.

2. I think a better description of paladin isn’t a isekai but more of Tolkien esque world. The atmosphere is a lot different as Paladin is a lot more ‘cold’ and unmoving compacted to the heartwarming and more lighthearted Mushoku. Paladin just feels more like a western fantasy novel compared to Mushoku, which has more in similar to rom com then a pure epic fantasy novel.

3. I don’t think this is a reason to drop a show are anything but some people care about the relationships that form in the story. Paladin draws more on Western fantasy and it’s relationships are mostly about brotherhood, fraternity, and finding family from those that are not related. Mushoku is more concerned about romantic relationships and immediate family relationships. I won’t say one is worse than another, but if you are looking for one or another, it’s probably better if you don’t watch either because Lord of the Rings or To Love Ru will serve you better if you are only watching an anime for what relationships they form. I think both stories do great at what they are trying to convey in terms of the people they meet so I don’t think you should judge based of it.

Overall, I get why people are put off by Rudeus’s character. But it’s part of its character arc and inherent to his character development. I think likewise that while Paladin starts out slow, it is a character and philosophical focused story. If you want my take, I think watching till the first fight with a god would be the best indicator if you like the story or not. That fight is a major climax in the story and you will get an indication if you like Paladin or not.


you are my savior thank you.

this was exactly what i wanted to know.

now that you said it this seems a lot more interesting than i thought.

i was just getting spammed by the mc is not a pedo. like no shit he isn't. the mc being a different character, is not unique, it's the bare minimum.

again thank you so much, i hope you have a great day.
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alshu said:
arshiapolygons2 said:

yeah i get that it's not unique, when did i ever say it is?

How about:

arshiapolygons2 said:
most isekai do have at least 1 unique thing about them

Which means that since you are Mushoku Tensei fan it must have one and more unique things and Saihate no Paladin doesn't.

arshiapolygons2 said:
it's just a solid fantasy

I fail to see a power fantasy show as solid fantasy.

arshiapolygons2 said:
you have some pretty high standards.

Not really but maybe its above average for isekai...which doesn't mean that isekai is bad by default, just that we are flooded with not so great titles.

arshiapolygons2 said:
and i mean that, wtf is good looking if mushoku is ok-ish? i can't even begin to imagine what you would call impressive

Not sure what your ideas about good visuals are, for example I can get impressed by things which look way way more simple and minimalistic, Mushoku Tensei just doesn't look extraordinary to me.

arshiapolygons2 said:
i mean i can't see your list, but damn, that's just way too harsh.

1. But I have 10 favourites on my profile and here's my full list of favourits - https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1115621&show=0#msg59097780
Take in account the years of production, like newer shows must but judged a bit harsher.
2. Really harsh would be to tell that I didn't like it at all...which is not true. Mushoku Tensei visually just doesn't go above my idea of what is average in nowadays anime.

arshiapolygons2 said:
but then again, you have 5 average for your scores (mine is 6.5). so your average (5/10) is most likely the same as my 7/10.

I think you are one of those people who take scoring way too seriously. I can't express my observations and opinions just giving such. Like I could love some aspects of a show but hate others, taking in account some context (genre, target demographics, production year...) ect. My scores doesn't mean much.


1. no i like mushoku, but not because it's unique. what makes mushoku stand out to me, is how well written it is, and the fact that redemption stories are rare, specially in isekai.

2. well, it is power fantasy, but it's a really good power fantasy. most people don't know the difference so i didn't specify. i mean yeah it's no lord of the rings or war craft, but it's still really solid.

3. some of the shows i call average are: another, angel beats, trinity seven, dr stone season 2, and one punch man season 2. and mushoku is much, much better than these. so no, i do think you have higher standars. unless for some reason you think these shows are on the same level.

4. fare enough about the visuals, but that's more of a taste thing. the visuals in mushoku are the best of this year, with only a handful of shows being comparable. to me good art and animation are about consistency, detail, being fluent. and msuhoku passes all those tests with A+.

5. i took a look at your list, and you don't know how glad i am that someone else like godzilla singular point. people just don't appreciate well researched sci-fi.

6. also fair enough, i do tend to take scores to seriously.
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Danah_Anime said:
arshiapolygons2 said:


it's an isekai,

the mc starts from being a new born

we get a training ark of him getting both magic and swordsman training, but he is better at magic

we get time skips of him growing up

it's a fantasy, set at medieval times

he's gardiens are retired (in this one also undead) adventurers

i haven't seen ep 2 yet, but for one episode you have to admit that's a ton of similarities


Dude you just literally listed the Isekai Formula. Almost every Shounen Isekai reincarnation story has those exact same plot points happening in that exact same order. MC dies and then reincarnates into a world with magic and swords and then meets a mentor figure who shows him the ropes.

Mushoku Tensei did nothing unique and nothing interesting with that formula. It just slapped the most obnoxious and unloveable main character into that formula and called it a day,

At least Saihate no Paladin went for a dark fantasy aesthetic choice reminiscent of that of Dark Souls and Berserk. Mushoku Tensei just went with the vanilla medieval setting.


i didn't say mushoku was any more original. i liked mushoku's first episode better because of it's higher production, better dialogue, better pacing, less exposition and better direction.

the only reason i made this caparison, was because i watched mushoku first, it could have been easily the other way around.

the only semi-unique thing about mushoku is that it's a redemption story. and unlike most people on this thread, i think his negative aspects make him a much more interesting character. also there are a lot of anime that have perverted mc's. and other than our lord and savior kazuma, he is the best character with that trope. at least from what i have seen.

anyways some other guy gave me the exact answer i needed, so now i'm actually excited to see the rest of this show.
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arshiapolygons2 said:
the visuals in mushoku are the best of this year

Naaah.


arshiapolygons2 said:
with only a handful of shows being comparable

I can think up at least dozen which are better...but OK. Lets agree to disagree.
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AyemRivaille said:
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you're like the 4th person who said this, so i'll just copy and paste my other reply

"to me that hardly matters

if anything it made mushoku more interesting, since it meant along side it being a good fantasy, it was also a good redemption story. also i don't like characters who have 0 bad things about them. that's one of the biggest reasons i disliked demon slayer for example."
"to me that hardly matters" well, to you. As you can see its not only 1 person that mention something like that, so its 'to you'🤷‍♀️


No! It's not just him! You "moral rightfully" persons are all the same! Bad things make good and interesting characters, the actual "art" does not care about your lack of stomach to begin with it, and it is surely not because of that it will stop making good characters with unique and weird characters.
So it's not "to you", everyone knows mushoku or Redo of Healer, which means for good or for bad it is a well-known piece of art for everyone! So you could just stop with all the whining about a show that is not the one from this thread or the people that like it. -.-

arshiapolygons2 said:
AyemRivaille said:
"to me that hardly matters" well, to you. As you can see its not only 1 person that mention something like that, so its 'to you'🤷‍♀️


oh also, did you just make this account to make this comment and give aot a 10/10?

if that's the case at least give the final season a 10 too lol.

show steins gate some love too while you're at it.


Wait! Is that a fake account?? LOLOL!! I just got trolled!! Dam morons!! And I was thinking that the guy actually represents someone... Looks like it made a fool of me xD

Danah_Anime said:
arshiapolygons2 said:


it's an isekai,

the mc starts from being a new born

we get a training ark of him getting both magic and swordsman training, but he is better at magic

we get time skips of him growing up

it's a fantasy, set at medieval times

he's gardiens are retired (in this one also undead) adventurers

i haven't seen ep 2 yet, but for one episode you have to admit that's a ton of similarities


Dude you just literally listed the Isekai Formula. Almost every Shounen Isekai reincarnation story has those exact same plot points happening in that exact same order. MC dies and then reincarnates into a world with magic and swords and then meets a mentor figure who shows him the ropes.

Mushoku Tensei did nothing unique and nothing interesting with that formula.


That what I was thinking myself xD
Every isekai is based on those features... maybe he lacks knowledge of other isekais... Idk

For the OP:
Ok! In the end, this Anime is just another isekai with a reborn/reincarnated feature. You could compare it to Mushoku Tensei, or to reincarnated as a Slime, or to Overlord, or Tsukimichi: Moonlit Fantasy, or the new Assassins Isekai reincarnated, or the Shield hero, this only for action isekais, if you go for slice-of-life then... and fantasy (not isekai just fantasy), there are an unmeasurable nr of animes that resemble this one.
Now, to be fair, this and Mushouku don't have much in common. First, this one has NO family, not his immediate parents but "family", you know uncles, cousins, etc? This will be a solo adventure in a quest (that is unknown for us atm) and for now, we will just see what is his life prior to that. An interesting thing that happens in all the shows (not only isekais though).

If you don't like that stuff, maybe you shouldn't watch isekais, fantasy, any show that is not based on realism really, but if you like I don't see any problem try and see what will it turn to be.

Edit:
And I already comment on the matter xD
Nonetheless, here stays my opinion.
r_justoOct 23, 2021 3:20 PM
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations.
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r_justo said:
AyemRivaille said:
"to me that hardly matters" well, to you. As you can see its not only 1 person that mention something like that, so its 'to you'🤷‍♀️


No! It's not just him! You "moral rightfully" persons are all the same! Bad things make good and interesting characters, the actual "art" does not care about your lack of stomach to begin with it, and it is surely not because of that it will stop making good characters with unique and weird characters.
So it's not "to you", everyone knows mushoku or Redo of Healer, which means for good or for bad it is a well-known piece of art for everyone! So you could just stop with all the whining about a show that is not the one from this thread or the people that like it. -.-

arshiapolygons2 said:


oh also, did you just make this account to make this comment and give aot a 10/10?

if that's the case at least give the final season a 10 too lol.

show steins gate some love too while you're at it.


Wait! Is that a fake account?? LOLOL!! I just got trolled!! Dam morons!! And I was thinking that the guy actually represents someone... Looks like it made a fool of me xD

Danah_Anime said:


Dude you just literally listed the Isekai Formula. Almost every Shounen Isekai reincarnation story has those exact same plot points happening in that exact same order. MC dies and then reincarnates into a world with magic and swords and then meets a mentor figure who shows him the ropes.

Mushoku Tensei did nothing unique and nothing interesting with that formula.


That what I was thinking myself xD
Every isekai is based on those features... maybe he lacks knowledge of other isekais... Idk

For the OP:
Ok! In the end, this Anime is just another isekai with a reborn/reincarnated feature. You could compare it to Mushoku Tensei, or to reincarnated as a Slime, or to Overlord, or Tsukimichi: Moonlit Fantasy, or the new Assassins Isekai reincarnated, or the Shield hero, this only for action isekais, if you go for slice-of-life then... and fantasy (not isekai just fantasy), there are an unmeasurable nr of animes that resemble this one.
Now, to be fair, this and Mushouku don't have much in common. First, this one has NO family, not his immediate parents but "family", you know uncles, cousins, etc? This will be a solo adventure in a quest (that is unknown for us atm) and for now, we will just see what is his life prior to that. An interesting thing that happens in all the shows (not only isekais though).

If you don't like that stuff, maybe you shouldn't watch isekais, fantasy, any show that is not based on realism really, but if you like I don't see any problem try and see what will it turn to be.

Edit:
And I already comment on the matter xD
Nonetheless, here stays my opinion.


i have seen a good few isekais:

re:zero, konosuba, angel beats (shut up, it counts XD), devils is a part timer, Cautious Hero, and obviously mushoku tensei

i think the problem is that a lot of these are known for being very unique takes on isekais so this just happens to be the first isekai, that i started seeing a pattern.

another person who had read the source told me a few thing about the story that made me a lot more interested though. and there is also the fact that i almost never drop shows unless i have 0 interest in them, which because i like basically every single genre, almost never happens.

anyways still thanks for the reply have and... have a nice day :D
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arshiapolygons2 said:
AyemRivaille said:
"to me that hardly matters" well, to you. As you can see its not only 1 person that mention something like that, so its 'to you'🤷‍♀️


oh also, did you just make this account to make this comment and give aot a 10/10?

if that's the case at least give the final season a 10 too lol.

show steins gate some love too while you're at it.
Well, I dont have the time to take care this account and give ratings about every anime that I've watch so far. I didnt even rate that SnK entirely lol, has been neglected since 2019

Unfortunately, Steins Gate isnt my taste
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r_justo said:
AyemRivaille said:
"to me that hardly matters" well, to you. As you can see its not only 1 person that mention something like that, so its 'to you'🤷‍♀️


No! It's not just him! You "moral rightfully" persons are all the same! Bad things make good and interesting characters, the actual "art" does not care about your lack of stomach to begin with it, and it is surely not because of that it will stop making good characters with unique and weird characters.
So it's not "to you", everyone knows mushoku or Redo of Healer, which means for good or for bad it is a well-known piece of art for everyone! So you could just stop with all the whining about a show that is not the one from this thread or the people that like it. -.-

arshiapolygons2 said:


oh also, did you just make this account to make this comment and give aot a 10/10?

if that's the case at least give the final season a 10 too lol.

show steins gate some love too while you're at it.


Wait! Is that a fake account?? LOLOL!! I just got trolled!! Dam morons!! And I was thinking that the guy actually represents someone... Looks like it made a fool of me xD

Danah_Anime said:


Dude you just literally listed the Isekai Formula. Almost every Shounen Isekai reincarnation story has those exact same plot points happening in that exact same order. MC dies and then reincarnates into a world with magic and swords and then meets a mentor figure who shows him the ropes.

Mushoku Tensei did nothing unique and nothing interesting with that formula.


That what I was thinking myself xD
Every isekai is based on those features... maybe he lacks knowledge of other isekais... Idk

For the OP:
Ok! In the end, this Anime is just another isekai with a reborn/reincarnated feature. You could compare it to Mushoku Tensei, or to reincarnated as a Slime, or to Overlord, or Tsukimichi: Moonlit Fantasy, or the new Assassins Isekai reincarnated, or the Shield hero, this only for action isekais, if you go for slice-of-life then... and fantasy (not isekai just fantasy), there are an unmeasurable nr of animes that resemble this one.
Now, to be fair, this and Mushouku don't have much in common. First, this one has NO family, not his immediate parents but "family", you know uncles, cousins, etc? This will be a solo adventure in a quest (that is unknown for us atm) and for now, we will just see what is his life prior to that. An interesting thing that happens in all the shows (not only isekais though).

If you don't like that stuff, maybe you shouldn't watch isekais, fantasy, any show that is not based on realism really, but if you like I don't see any problem try and see what will it turn to be.

Edit:
And I already comment on the matter xD
Nonetheless, here stays my opinion.
Fake account? Bc that person said "did you just make this account to make this comment"? Lmao sure, I make this acc just to comment this since 2018, sure
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AyemRivaille said:
r_justo said:


No! It's not just him! You "moral rightfully" persons are all the same! Bad things make good and interesting characters, the actual "art" does not care about your lack of stomach to begin with it, and it is surely not because of that it will stop making good characters with unique and weird characters.
So it's not "to you", everyone knows mushoku or Redo of Healer, which means for good or for bad it is a well-known piece of art for everyone! So you could just stop with all the whining about a show that is not the one from this thread or the people that like it. -.-



Wait! Is that a fake account?? LOLOL!! I just got trolled!! Dam morons!! And I was thinking that the guy actually represents someone... Looks like it made a fool of me xD



That what I was thinking myself xD
Every isekai is based on those features... maybe he lacks knowledge of other isekais... Idk

For the OP:
Ok! In the end, this Anime is just another isekai with a reborn/reincarnated feature. You could compare it to Mushoku Tensei, or to reincarnated as a Slime, or to Overlord, or Tsukimichi: Moonlit Fantasy, or the new Assassins Isekai reincarnated, or the Shield hero, this only for action isekais, if you go for slice-of-life then... and fantasy (not isekai just fantasy), there are an unmeasurable nr of animes that resemble this one.
Now, to be fair, this and Mushouku don't have much in common. First, this one has NO family, not his immediate parents but "family", you know uncles, cousins, etc? This will be a solo adventure in a quest (that is unknown for us atm) and for now, we will just see what is his life prior to that. An interesting thing that happens in all the shows (not only isekais though).

If you don't like that stuff, maybe you shouldn't watch isekais, fantasy, any show that is not based on realism really, but if you like I don't see any problem try and see what will it turn to be.

Edit:
And I already comment on the matter xD
Nonetheless, here stays my opinion.
Fake account? Bc that person said "did you just make this account to make this comment"? Lmao sure, I make this acc just to comment this since 2018, sure


how did you prove me wrong by making your account an even bigger mystery?

so you made this in 2018, only rated aot a 10/10, and have made 10 comments in total.

WHAT?!!


is this some 5 head advanced trolling?

AM I GETTING PLAYED?

damn that organization, they're still trying to beat my genius brain. worry not, even if ragnarok rains upon humanity once more, I SHALL STILL REMAIN. you hear me foolish human, I HOIEN KYO....

wait, what was i talking about?

oh yeah... what's up with your account then?
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AyemRivaille said:
r_justo said:


No! It's not just him! You "moral rightfully" persons are all the same! Bad things make good and interesting characters, the actual "art" does not care about your lack of stomach to begin with it, and it is surely not because of that it will stop making good characters with unique and weird characters.
So it's not "to you", everyone knows mushoku or Redo of Healer, which means for good or for bad it is a well-known piece of art for everyone! So you could just stop with all the whining about a show that is not the one from this thread or the people that like it. -.-



Wait! Is that a fake account?? LOLOL!! I just got trolled!! Dam morons!! And I was thinking that the guy actually represents someone... Looks like it made a fool of me xD



That what I was thinking myself xD
Every isekai is based on those features... maybe he lacks knowledge of other isekais... Idk

For the OP:
Ok! In the end, this Anime is just another isekai with a reborn/reincarnated feature. You could compare it to Mushoku Tensei, or to reincarnated as a Slime, or to Overlord, or Tsukimichi: Moonlit Fantasy, or the new Assassins Isekai reincarnated, or the Shield hero, this only for action isekais, if you go for slice-of-life then... and fantasy (not isekai just fantasy), there are an unmeasurable nr of animes that resemble this one.
Now, to be fair, this and Mushouku don't have much in common. First, this one has NO family, not his immediate parents but "family", you know uncles, cousins, etc? This will be a solo adventure in a quest (that is unknown for us atm) and for now, we will just see what is his life prior to that. An interesting thing that happens in all the shows (not only isekais though).

If you don't like that stuff, maybe you shouldn't watch isekais, fantasy, any show that is not based on realism really, but if you like I don't see any problem try and see what will it turn to be.

Edit:
And I already comment on the matter xD
Nonetheless, here stays my opinion.
Fake account? Bc that person said "did you just make this account to make this comment"? Lmao sure, I make this acc just to comment this since 2018, sure

NO!!! Fake account because it only has 4 animes in there since 2018 and it's only AoT rated 10 and nothing else. And you still comment on this anime because...
So... YH!! Fake account!!

arshiapolygons2 said:


how did you prove me wrong by making your account an even bigger mystery?

so you made this in 2018, only rated aot a 10/10, and have made 10 comments in total.

WHAT?!!


is this some 5 head advanced trolling?

AM I GETTING PLAYED?

damn that organization, they're still trying to bet my genius brain. worry not, even if ragnarok rains upon humanity once more, I SHALL STILL REMAIN. you hear me foolish human, I HOIEN KYO....

wait, what was i talking about?

oh yeah... what's up with your account then?

What is life??

WE ALL GETTING PLAYED, MAN!! Ragnarok could be raining every now and a while that no one could escape from that!
r_justoNov 2, 2021 5:18 AM
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations.
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I've only watched 4 episodes of the paladin but for now it doesn't seem to have much of a plot. this is like a long 'training arc' etc. most of the time there are no events, just mc narrates his story: I did this, ghost did that, skeleton did something else. this feels kinda dry.

comparing to that mushoku had some family drama and interesting character interactions early on. and the mc narrative didn't tell a story but just flavored it with remarks, the story told itself through a series of events

mb paladin will get better later on but for now it a level below mushoku
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r_justo said:
AyemRivaille said:
Fake account? Bc that person said "did you just make this account to make this comment"? Lmao sure, I make this acc just to comment this since 2018, sure

NO!!! Fake account because it only has 4 animes in there since 2018 and it's only AoT rated 10 and nothing else. And you still comment on this anime because...
So... YH!! Fake account!!

arshiapolygons2 said:


how did you prove me wrong by making your account an even bigger mystery?

so you made this in 2018, only rated aot a 10/10, and have made 10 comments in total.

WHAT?!!


is this some 5 head advanced trolling?

AM I GETTING PLAYED?

damn that organization, they're still trying to bet my genius brain. worry not, even if ragnarok rains upon humanity once more, I SHALL STILL REMAIN. you hear me foolish human, I HOIEN KYO....

wait, what was i talking about?

oh yeah... what's up with your account then?

What is life??

WE ALL GETTING PLAYED, MAN!! Ragnarok could be raining every now and a while that no one could escape from that!
Sure sure, abandoned acc = fake acc, sure, believe all you want. Its only my acc, not my life, that I should be take care of properly, lol
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arshiapolygons2 said:
AyemRivaille said:
Fake account? Bc that person said "did you just make this account to make this comment"? Lmao sure, I make this acc just to comment this since 2018, sure


how did you prove me wrong by making your account an even bigger mystery?

so you made this in 2018, only rated aot a 10/10, and have made 10 comments in total.

WHAT?!!


is this some 5 head advanced trolling?

AM I GETTING PLAYED?

damn that organization, they're still trying to beat my genius brain. worry not, even if ragnarok rains upon humanity once more, I SHALL STILL REMAIN. you hear me foolish human, I HOIEN KYO....

wait, what was i talking about?

oh yeah... what's up with your account then?
Just kinda getting abandoned. Sorry then, didnt know I should taking care of my acc properly
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Why does it feel like I can't go anywhere on this forum or other anime discussion venues like the sub on Reddit, Kitsu, Anilist, etc. this season and this year in general without any random anime constantly being compared to Mushoku Tensei and having Mushoku Tensei mentioned out of nowhere? It's all the time.
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WatchTillTandava said:
Why does it feel like I can't go anywhere on this forum or other anime discussion venues like the sub on Reddit, Kitsu, Anilist, etc. this season and this year in general without any random anime constantly being compared to Mushoku Tensei and having Mushoku Tensei mentioned out of nowhere? It's all the time.


Probably because the Genre of Isekai is depraved of quality adaptions and it's currently on everyone's mind as it's airing atm.
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i watched the first episode, and so far it feels like a different version of mushoku tensei... but not as good. it still does everything well though.

of course it has it's differences, but it doesn't feel different enough. so i want to ask you guys who have read the source.

is it more unique than it seems. or not?

edit:

1. I got my answer, thanks to the handful of people who gave a proper answer.

2. to people who say not every isekai is mushoku tensei, and this story has nothing to do with it, the AUTHOR OF THE SERIES has said they wrote this because they like mushoku so much, and trust me, you don't know more about this story than the author. like come on... even the n1 recommendation on mal for this is mushoku tensei. like i know and understand why a lot of people dislike the mushoku's mc, but this question and statement had nothing to do with that.

3. to all the people who say the mc being different is the difference between the 2 shows, you guys have garbage standards. the mc being a different character is NOT a big difference, it's the god damn bare minimum. if that aspect wasn't different, this wouldn't be a show similar to mushoku, it would be a 0 effort clone. which this show is not.


Well as far as I can say, since Ep6 just aired, Mushoku is more self-indulgent and approachable to everyone, while Paladin seems to focus more on the atmosphere and world-building. Plus, the MCs are completely different. Will is more of a conventional protagonist than Rudeus, who is a lolicon pervert. What both get wrong is the power scaling and how much the divine/demonic beings intervene. They both get hax powers out of nowhere that make them really powerful. And for Mushoku I am talking about S2. It is established Rudeus sucks in melee combat but is a prodigy in magic and linguistics. Will gets weapons the author just writes in the story in a messy manner.



Otherwise, so far Paladin has mediocre production in terms of animation. The artstyle is good but nothing to write home about. In contrast, Mushoku's visuals are were it excels. Also, both have some moments of characterization that are really good. However, Mushoku also has the problem of Rudeus and his character. There are moments were we see beyond the pervert but oml he is like 90% of the time a pervert and that makes the show unwatchable for me at times. I feel Paladin if it avoids bs moments like the one I mentioned in spoilers, it may end up decent. Overall, narratively, Mushoku seems like more fun and conventional, while Paladin has a more slow-burn feel to it and takes itself a lot more seriously.

Honestly, it's a coin flip which show you will prefer. They both have their merits and demerits.
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AyemRivaille said:
r_justo said:

NO!!! Fake account because it only has 4 animes in there since 2018 and it's only AoT rated 10 and nothing else. And you still comment on this anime because...
So... YH!! Fake account!!


What is life??

WE ALL GETTING PLAYED, MAN!! Ragnarok could be raining every now and a while that no one could escape from that!
Sure sure, abandoned acc = fake acc, sure, believe all you want. Its only my acc, not my life, that I should be take care of properly, lol


NOOOO!!! Fake account because you are talking about animes that you didn't even make AN ENTRY of them!!
Stop denying the obvious, or that is your 2nd account only for trolling, or you don't know the animes that you mention (including this one) because you didn't even make an entry of them. Either the case, it's a trolling fake conversation and I'm tired of it!
Good day!
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations.
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How Paladin is different from Mushoku...

-next to no fan-service
-no harem
-not much romance, focuses more on familial love
-less comedic, more serious
-philosophical elements
-religious but effeminate MC. Not a pervert and not too reactive.
-all about undeads, demons
-better story (subjective)
-better world building
-different art style
-visuals and animation not as good. Quality dropped vastly after the first couple of episodes. Same with Mushoku but it delivers during important scenes and fights. Haven't seen that in Paladin yet. It loses out to Mushoku in this category by a vast margin.


Honestly reading the manga, I can see the Mushoku inspiration at first, but overall Paladin feels like it is much more inspired from Dark Souls and Tolkien's works. If you read it, it's evident that the author is a Tolkien fan. Whereas Mushoku was inspired from works like Final Fantasy and Re:zero, Isekai Harem, etc.
Regardless, both of these shows are nothing too special. I'm digging both but MT is more fun to watch.
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