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Chargecoulomb said: Honestly I just want to get to Tatari answer arc already. Just to see whether Satoko was responsible for the events at the end. It's obvious at this point that Satoko is the one behind all of these loops since she swiped the Hinamizawa Syndrome vaccine and is using it to manipulate people around her. Next "answer" arc will have to be Mion (Shion seems to be getting the short end of the stick this time around), which is disingenuous that they have to have an outside force make Mion go nuts just because Mion is so strong-willed that she has never succumbed to Hinamizawa Syndrome ever. Rika confirmed this herself. Unless the "twist" is that Satoko tried but then had to reloop when Mion was proving herself too OP to control and decided her loving Onee-sama needed to be her puppet. This is just awful. I wish Gou actually started with Rena's POV instead of retreading Onikakushi-hen for four episodes until the "twist ending", maybe then I might have given more of a rat's ass during Gou, even though the reveal it was because Satoko's feelings got hurt due to being a lazy student would still have been a BS excuse. |
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| This was for some reason going to be my favorite episode of this season, having basically nothing new and big to complain about.. until the end. I was just laughing at how stupid those end splatters were, like come on. Another thing which wasn't thought through was Rika at K1 Mansion. I'm not sure if she was supposed to stand there while K1 was getting skewered or just showing how things will go bad. But if that Havoc was going on inside, there's no way she wouldn't have heard it.. Also K1 being stabbed was not hallucination? Aside of the problem everyone brings forth, I'll bring the one I mentioned back when that originally happened. How is K1 moving like that, using his abs and starts sitting in the hospital bed with those wounds? lol. Who is making these ridiculous writing decisions? NemozaZ said: Well apparently it is, which doesn't make any fukin sense, but that by itself in GOU terms makes the perfect sense.And also, is Rena stabbing K1 like 30 times canon? I did expect them to explain that scene like "Oh, it was an hallucination" whatever to make it believable, but they didn't so is it canon or not? Magical_Bananana said: You might not care about it. But it's still stupid.Ah it was the neck, my bad. Thought it was the head, been a while since I watched it. Still is an anime though, they want it to be over the top so I still don't see the point in caring about it so much. |
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| Actually what the fuck is this Rika doing? By this point she already let Tomitake die during Watanagashi so they probably can't do anything to stop Takano's conspiracy whether Rena goes on a killing spree or not. She already knows he's one of the key players yet she did nothing to try and save him and is acting all happy just because she thinks she saved Keiichi and Rena. It's all just so weird. It was nice seeing Rena take the main character role for a bit but I wish they'd just continue on with the plot instead of showing us more recaps of the fake Mion and Satoko routes. We can already more or less deduce what happened, I don't want them spending 9 episodes on this shit. |
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vegeta8639 said: Rika being a complete retard in Gou was the #1 issue everyone, that doesnt just want more Higurashi regardless of quality, had.Actually what the fuck is this Rika doing? By this point she already let Tomitake die during Watanagashi so they probably can't do anything to stop Takano's conspiracy whether Rena goes on a killing spree or not. She already knows he's one of the key players yet she did nothing to try and save him and is acting all happy just because she thinks she saved Keiichi and Rena. It's all just so weird. |
| Rika's death was hilarious. But everything still remains pointless. I am looking forward to the next arc because I do still have some questions about Watadamashi. But even so, these answer arcs should only be like an episode each. It's fairly obvious what happens, all we need is a few little extra details, not an entire rehashing of each and every scene. This is such a waste of time, which is especially painful when we know that that means the continuation from after Rika realised Satoko's involvement will be much too short. |
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| That's a wrap folks on to the next loop. More answer to be reveled next time on Higurashi. (just have to say the rika death scene went over the top with blood) |
| Surprisingly not that many complaints, even if it's still a bit boring and pointless (seriously though Ryu07, why reveal the culprit and method before any of the actual answer arcs start?). Rika's death at the end though was pretty hilarious, like damn, how much blood do you have in your body?! |
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ssjokg said: vegeta8639 said: Rika being a complete retard in Gou was the #1 issue everyone, that doesnt just want more Higurashi regardless of quality, had.Actually what the fuck is this Rika doing? By this point she already let Tomitake die during Watanagashi so they probably can't do anything to stop Takano's conspiracy whether Rena goes on a killing spree or not. She already knows he's one of the key players yet she did nothing to try and save him and is acting all happy just because she thinks she saved Keiichi and Rena. It's all just so weird. My biggest issue has to the the unbelievable amounts of plot convenience and Satoko's shitty motivations. I mean the entire part with Satoko walking into a shrine and randomly getting time travel powers that just happen to work in exactly the way that would allow her to keep Rika trapped in this loop while not remembering that Satoko killed her just because the plot needed a new villain is just garbage fan fiction tier writing. |
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| Rika saying "faito nanodesu!" as Rika and Keichi are having this bloody battle to the death, and Rika slowly trying to kill herself while having about 10 gallons of blood highlight how comical this series is compared to the original. Magical_Bananana said: Why are people on here trying so hard to understand why Keiichi survived 50 or so stabs to the stomach in this arc? In the original Higurashi Rika put a knife up a fucking wall and kept headbutting that mf for like 10 times before she dropped dead. Isn't it a bit useless to try to make sense of the gore in this? The 2 scenes don't really compare. Quickly improvising a suicide by jamming your neck into a knife you propped up against the wall; yeah that would probably be clumsy and drawn out. Here Rika just goes to town on her throat and only holds out as long as she does for no reason other than our amusement. If Satako can kill herself instantly and painlessly by slitting her throat, Rika should be able to too. There's also none of the psychological horror which made the original wall-knife scene so great. |
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ssjokg said: vegeta8639 said: Rika being a complete retard in Gou was the #1 issue everyone, that doesnt just want more Higurashi regardless of quality, had.Actually what the fuck is this Rika doing? By this point she already let Tomitake die during Watanagashi so they probably can't do anything to stop Takano's conspiracy whether Rena goes on a killing spree or not. She already knows he's one of the key players yet she did nothing to try and save him and is acting all happy just because she thinks she saved Keiichi and Rena. It's all just so weird. She wouldn't know this yet, but in all of the Gou arcs Tomitake and Takano don't die, right? |
| jeez, what a snoozefest. i repeat what i said last week: we already got the answers we needed from satokowashi. all oniakashi brought to the table was but even then, it wasn't hard to figure out what was going on, SEEING AS SATOKOWASHI BASICALLY EXPLAINED THOSE ARCS. please, give us some new material... |
Mimist said: So Keichi survided to multiple stabs... They weren't a hallucination... Man... This show are worst than I was expected... It's not just Satoko's traps that are magic -_- The L5 filter was still in the scene, it's as unreliable as ever, they just didn't explain in detail honestly. The manga shows that the scene is a lot less bloody, and the over-the-top wounds didn't really happen. |
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| Explaining every little bit except the one thing I want to know. Why does Satoko think this is a good idea? You don't have to justify the series of events that got Rena infected. That's the part that made sense. |
| And there goes the first recap of GOU's many arcs. We barely got any new info besides Rina's character becoming fodder to kick Rena's HS into hard motion and the fact that Keiichi is indeed a super-human who can win in knife fights by just using a plastic alarm clock. And some people even saying the whole sequence was a hallucination... By the way, does Rika know she only needed to slice the side of her neck with the knife in order to kill herself, right? Jeez, there was no need to go full Another on oneself. Even Satoko knew that. Overall, three episodes that ended up being a waste of time for the most part. |
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| The first 3 episode of Sotsu is basically like Gou in that it feels like it's written by someone who has only watched the Higurashi anime 10 years ago and decided to write a shitty fanfiction without remembering anything in detail. Why the fuck would Rika think that "Everything will be fine" if she already solved the entire mystery in the original arcs and she did nothing to stop any other parts of the big picture? Did she think Takano will be moved to tears after hearing about Keiichi overcoming his infection and give herself up? Did looping again give Rika a stroke that killed half her brain cells? |
VongalaxyJul 8, 2021 5:42 PM
| Okay. Pretty good episode, but all it did is really confirm what we already knew. Ever since Satoko got revealed as a looper we knew that all three Gou arcs before the reveal probably happened due to Satoko, especially when we learned she got ahold of H-173 at the end of the season. However, I guess you’d only TRULY know that if you were a fan of the original series and pieced that together. By revealing this info in Sotsu I guess it helps Gou & Sotsu stand together as a stand alone duo just like Ni and Kai can. While I REALLY don’t think anybody should be watching these series if they haven’t watched the originals I can see why they continue to push this. So, Gou did three arcs before the Satoko and Rika reveal happened. This first “answer” arc took 3 episodes. The series is going to be 13 episodes. If we assume each proceeding answer arc is going to be three episodes as well that means the second arc should end at episode 6, and the last one on episode 9, meaning we’ll get 4 episodes of wrap up. Sounds pretty good but this episode definitely seemed like it wanted to get the explanations out the way ASAP. Seemed like it tried doing what Kai did only speed run version. All in all great episode, but man it hurts to see Rika suffer like this. |
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PinkShibaInu said: vegeta8639 said: My biggest issue has to the the unbelievable amounts of plot convenience and Satoko's shitty motivations. I mean the entire part with Satoko walking into a shrine and randomly getting time travel powers that just happen to work in exactly the way that would allow her to keep Rika trapped in this loop while not remembering that Satoko killed her just because the plot needed a new villain is just garbage fan fiction tier writing. Well considering these answer arcs so far aren't really answering anything important and is merely a waste of time (everything is predictable for veterans anyway, others seems to be left in the dark) I'd say this just isn't really meant to be the same as the original, because it isn't. The story has already setup that everything happening is not part of their "original" world, with Satoko still sitting at the shrine (probably braindead drooling) while the original Rika is running up the hill to her. Eua is just staging everything to give Satoko a chance to reflect on her inner demons and faults. Maybe Rika is so stupid because we see Satoko truly believes Rika is stupid. While we get to see Satoko isn't as smart as she thinks she is, her plan was flawed from the very beginning. Unfortunately we as the watchers get to also view just how chaotic evil Satoko truly is, despite this all being regarded as "just a dream." It's all a regular Saikoroshi-hen but for Satoko. Which means everything happening is TRULY POINTLESS FOR US. What does it matter to the viewer if Satoko changes her way in the very end if to us she truly seems irredeemable? She'll "change her ways" so suddenly she'll be good again after crying to Rika? Not buying it. This matters less to us because it's going to be regarded as a dream in the end (none of the suffering matters, everyone is perfectly fine at Angel Mort), it matters less because the outcome so far is too predictable, it matters less because all of the "horror" aspect is turned into a big joke. Why are we here if not just to suffer for 2 whole seasons. You're making some pretty bold assertions about this being a dream for Satoko to learn some lesson. I think the way this actually ends is Satoko getting stabbed with the sword shard "killing" her looper self which will probably just erase her memories for the next cycle or something. Maybe Rika will blame herself and try to be nicer to her in the next world. Or I could even see both of them getting stabbed with it so they get to live normal lives while their looper personas become witches. Maybe Rika's could have a cat tail like the one she worse during the punishment game. |
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| The only thing that would have made this arc better would be if they had took 4 episodes to "explain" it. As it stands I can only give it a 9/10, very entertaining reactions over the web where it looks like even a lot of die hard defenders are starting to run out of copium and the truth is catching up to them. I cannot hover comment the content of the episode itself, as actually nothing happens in this show. Plus Higurashi as as story has been destroyed anyway so w/ever really. Just here to see the finishing line and hopefully get some entertaining out of it, kinda like watching a trainwreck, except the train is not moving I guess. |
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| (I'm anime only, have only watched GOU previously. Didn't watch the older seasons nor did I play the game(?).) I enjoyed the episode, but I'm literally confused as of... how does making Rika's life miserable, and turning everyone on each other... actually convince Rika to stay? If anything, it would only deepen Rika's desire to get the heck out of the town. Also, this mini arc only reinforce my belief that Satoko is a monster beyond redemption. There is zero redeeming quality about her. She literally pushes her "friend" Rika to suicide. She literally inject a drug to turn her other "friends" crazy. At this point, it has nothing to do with friendship, because Satoko has proven she's an unredeemable monster and unworthy to be called human. She's only in it to make others suffer. Her "goal" to make Rika stay is a lie. She just wants to make others suffer because of her own failings and refuses to change herself. |
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Bio said: Explaining every little bit except the one thing I want to know. Why does Satoko think this is a good idea? You don't have to justify the series of events that got Rena infected. That's the part that made sense. I'm under the impression that we will only get to see this sort of Satoko stuff starting from Tatariakashi onwards. |
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FrozenSheep said: (I'm anime only, have only watched GOU previously. Didn't watch the older seasons nor did I play the game(?).) I enjoyed the episode, but I'm literally confused as of... how does making Rika's life miserable, and turning everyone on each other... actually convince Rika to stay? If anything, it would only deepen Rika's desire to get the heck out of the town. Also, this mini arc only reinforce my belief that Satoko is a monster beyond redemption. There is zero redeeming quality about her. She literally pushes her "friend" Rika to suicide. She literally inject a drug to turn her other "friends" crazy. At this point, it has nothing to do with friendship, because Satoko has proven she's an unredeemable monster and unworthy to be called human. She's only in it to make others suffer. Her "goal" to make Rika stay is a lie. She just wants to make others suffer because of her own failings and refuses to change herself. There's the main villain in Higurashi that did what Satoko is doing to Rika for a hundred years and still got redeemed by the end in one way or another and many people see that person as sympathetic, even because sad backstory just like Satoko's. Whether their motives were good or not, doesn't change the fact their actions were irredemable up to that point, and made Rika suffer much more than the bloody pulp she is getting beaten into in here, surprisingly enough. Not sure what is coming for Satoko next, but I don't expect her to get away as lightly as the previous villain tbh. There's a lot of Karma (Gou) thematics going around in Newgurashi. But then again, if even the previous villain got redeemed and a slap in the wrist, I really shouldn't mind seeing the same happening to Satoko here (even considering that everyone of her friends went murderous at some point except maybe Mion, for better or for worse, it is to be expected that Satoko will also get redeemed somehow for some upcoming reason). Curious to see myself, because if this is leading to Umineko the way I think, |
DanpmssJul 8, 2021 6:30 PM
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| Thank you for making Rika even dumber. 10/10, great characterization. Looking forward for them to ruin Mion next. Also, please. Takano is far less evil than to Satoko, she had believable motivations and not as stupid. Trying to compare them is just ridiculous considering their very different circumstances. |
| The amount of blood that comes out of these people is really thowing me off. I like all the violence but I don't know if that much blood can come out of someone like that like what the heck lol |
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Gar_Logan said: ssjokg said: Rika being a complete retard in Gou was the #1 issue everyone, that doesnt just want more Higurashi regardless of quality, had. She wouldn't know this yet, but in all of the Gou arcs Tomitake and Takano don't die, right? As far as we know they run away in all of Satoko's loops. But yeah she doesn't know. |
| so uh are the next like 10 episodes gonna be this amount of padding with little new info like i don't mind seeing it from a different angle but i've found myself skipping to see something new but it's just Satoko grining like a lil shit also the blood wasn't a hallucination?? it seems so over the top |
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ssjokg said: Gar_Logan said: She wouldn't know this yet, but in all of the Gou arcs Tomitake and Takano don't die, right? As far as we know they run away in all of Satoko's loops. But yeah she doesn't know. Right now, considering the info we got in Gou 24, my timeline goes as follow. >Watanagashi comes, time to assassinate Tomitake Flash >Drug gone, Satanko stole the precious thing >They either run away never to be seen again since the plan failed and the Yamainu will execute them, or the Yamainu actually manage to do just that, likely if they attempted to question who could be the one who stole the thingie. |
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| Great episode. Nailed the creep atmosphere that the original had and Gou kinda lacked. Very interesting to see the Rena side of events cause in Gou we were led to believe Keichii was the one who was hallucinating the whole time. The scene with Rika thinking everything would be fine is so sad, she seemed so happy and the constant cuts to the absolute opposite happening was just depressing. Pacing is definitely fast and we do need more episodes. The blood splatter effects were over done as hell, the Satoko vs Rika plot is still the weakest link in the show if you ask me. I don't understand how anyone could defend what Satoko is doing and what she's putting the people who she considers her friends through. I'm at a point where I don't think she deserves a happy ending at all, not for what she's done. |
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| I don't like the over excessive gore that this gou/sotsu era has. But seeing things being answered is satisfying to see. This one ended a lot shorter than I thought. I think it was even shorter than the question arc counterpart |
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Danpmss said: Right now, considering the info we got in Gou 24, my timeline goes as follow. >Watanagashi comes, time to assassinate Tomitake Flash >Drug gone, Satanko stole the precious thing >They either run away never to be seen again since the plan failed and the Yamainu will execute them, or the Yamainu actually manage to do just that, likely if they attempted to question who could be the one who stole the thingie. I am not even sure if Satoko wandered around in loops before starting her plan or if she was watching from the Sea, or whatever else. In the end, as far as Rika knows, Tomitake dies and Takano successfully fakes her death. |
| More blood than in the human body is able to appear, very old school anime, lol. So, are they gonna redo every arc from Gou before we get our episode 17 continuation... I'm hoping not, but guessing yes. Meakashi was enough from the original. I'm ready. |
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FrozenSheep said: Watched the old season, read the manga and the VN. And I'm just as lost as you are...(I'm anime only, have only watched GOU previously. Didn't watch the older seasons nor did I play the game(?).) I enjoyed the episode, but I'm literally confused as of... how does making Rika's life miserable, and turning everyone on each other... actually convince Rika to stay? If anything, it would only deepen Rika's desire to get the heck out of the town. Also, this mini arc only reinforce my belief that Satoko is a monster beyond redemption. There is zero redeeming quality about her. She literally pushes her "friend" Rika to suicide. She literally inject a drug to turn her other "friends" crazy. At this point, it has nothing to do with friendship, because Satoko has proven she's an unredeemable monster and unworthy to be called human. She's only in it to make others suffer. Her "goal" to make Rika stay is a lie. She just wants to make others suffer because of her own failings and refuses to change herself. Danpmss said: Excuse me? Sad backstory "just" like Satoko's? Man.There's the main villain in Higurashi that did what Satoko is doing to Rika for a hundred years and still got redeemed by the end in one way or another and many people see that person as sympathetic, even because sad backstory just like Satoko's. Whether their motives were good or not, doesn't change the fact their actions were irredemable up to that point, and made Rika suffer much more than the bloody pulp she is getting beaten into in here, surprisingly enough. The thing is that Satoko is being a lot more twisted about this, and she's purposefully aiming to kill and use others on her twisted game.There's a reason why people don't see Satoko as sympathetic. Tbh, those people who think Satoko is more in the right or more sympathetic are sick. Danpmss said: Why would they execute Tomitake if Takano had her mind changing arc?Right now, considering the info we got in Gou 24, my timeline goes as follow. >Watanagashi comes, time to assassinate Tomitake Flash >Drug gone, Satanko stole the precious thing >They either run away never to be seen again since the plan failed and the Yamainu will execute them, or the Yamainu actually manage to do just that, likely if they attempted to question who could be the one who stole the thingie. Wasn't the whole execution her Idea? Besides if the Yamainu is still active on this sort of stuff, then why were they packing up? As if they had given up like they were supposed to before Tokyo changed Takano's mind. |
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FrozenSheep said: (I'm anime only, have only watched GOU previously. Didn't watch the older seasons nor did I play the game(?).) I enjoyed the episode, but I'm literally confused as of... how does making Rika's life miserable, and turning everyone on each other... actually convince Rika to stay? If anything, it would only deepen Rika's desire to get the heck out of the town. Also, this mini arc only reinforce my belief that Satoko is a monster beyond redemption. There is zero redeeming quality about her. She literally pushes her "friend" Rika to suicide. She literally inject a drug to turn her other "friends" crazy. At this point, it has nothing to do with friendship, because Satoko has proven she's an unredeemable monster and unworthy to be called human. She's only in it to make others suffer. Her "goal" to make Rika stay is a lie. She just wants to make others suffer because of her own failings and refuses to change herself. Well first of all I really suggest you just watch the original show if not the much better visual novel instead of this crap but to address your point, Satoko's goal is probably to slowly condition Rika into thinking that her desire to leave Hinamizawa is the reason why she can't escape these tragedies. Then when she abandons it, Satoko would stop fucking things up which would reinforce the belief that this is the will of fate (or whatever higher power) so Rika would just stay in Hinamizawa forever. You might not know this if you haven't seen the original but one of the main rules of their Oyashiro-sama cult is that you must not leave the village and some believe even just wanting to leave is enough to trigger Oyashiro-sama's curse so Rika is already conditioned for this. Really Satoko is just playing God and she wins if she can convince Rika that her enemy is an unstoppable force that she simply has to submit to. And yes Satoko is now one of the worst character both morally and from a writing perspective I've ever seen. In the original story she was more or less normal girl who liked setting traps and kept getting abused by her aunt and uncle. All of these new developments where she's a crazy sadistic psycho with overly convenient time travel powers are completely out of nowhere. Rika could time travel because she's the reincarnation of Oyashiro-sama and the original Oyashiro-sama didn't want her to die. Satoko can time travel because the plot needed a new villain. That's basically it. |
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Hulio said: weren't those the Banken? Besides if the Yamainu is still active on this sort of stuff, then why were they packing up? As if they had given up like they were supposed to before Tokyo changed Takano's mind. |
| Looks like I was wrong in the last thread in thinking this was supposed to be a new version of the final arc of the original show, how did I not see this before lol, I guess Rina being present is what done it. Anyway, this was a good episode, cool to see how Satoko played a hand in the first arc of Gou (unless I’m wrong there too lol) she made some creepy faces in this one, as well as Rena. Seeing it from Rena’s POV was also interesting, I think it was a good way to start Sotsu. Now I’m wondering if they plan on doing answer arcs for each arc of Gou, if so I’m wondering how they plan to carry them out and also wrap up the new story, guess we’ll have to see. |
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| And with this, Onidamashi is solved! A lot of coincidences and misunderstandings in Keiichi and Rena's part, plus Rena's agitation. Keiichi suspected Rena of hiding the facts about the dam construction incident, while Rena suspected Keiichi of knowing and reporting her crime of murdering Rina. Had she not been injected with H170, Rena would have probably already made up with Rina and became friends, and her dad would have not been worried about Rina's disappearance. Truly a tragedy. Rika thought that the problem is similar to Onikakushi where Keiichi simply didn't trust Rena's good intentions. After witnessing Keiichi hugging Rena, she was relieved, only to find out the next day that something's not right. Next episode will be Wataakashi, the answer to Watadamashi. TheColonel76 said: Episode 1-3 is called Oniakashi, the answer arc to Onidamashi, which is episode 1-3 of Gou. They both tell the same story, but from different POVs.Looks like I was wrong in the last thread in thinking this was supposed to be a new version of the final arc of the original show, how did I not see this before lol, I guess Rina being present is what done it. Anyway, this was a good episode, cool to see how Satoko played a hand in the first arc of Gou (unless I’m wrong there too lol) she made some creepy faces in this one, as well as Rena. Seeing it from Rena’s POV was also interesting, I think it was a good way to start Sotsu. Now I’m wondering if they plan on doing answer arcs for each arc of Gou, if so I’m wondering how they plan to carry them out and also wrap up the new story, guess we’ll have to see. The next episode is highly likely to be an answer arc as well. It is named Wataakashi and will be the answer for Watadamashi. FrozenSheep said: Now that I think about it, you're right.Also, on a random note: One will sacrifice herself for her friends. One will sacrifice her "friends" for herself. |
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| Answer arcs for question arcs that have no questions left, seriously? We know literally EVERYTHING that’s happening here. What a shameless, shameless, shameless cash grab. Maybe after the next completely narratively pointless answer arc we’ll actually get some purposeful content... maybe. At least we’ve still got... our comically stupid blood splatters that seem to get only more ridiculous every time. Great. Christ, I’m insulted by this show’s existence. Only reason I’m still watching is to see where it’s going and it won’t even get going for most of a cour. Again. |
Danpmss said: The L5 filter was still in the scene, it's as unreliable as ever, they just didn't explain in detail honestly. The manga shows that the scene is a lot less bloody, and the over-the-top wounds didn't really happen. Yeah the manga is clearly better, besides Rena is injured to the eye, she have better chance to die. PinkShibaInu said: However I more disagree with you because of that. I don't even agree with the dream issue or Higurashi Gou/Sotsu at all, but likewise it'd AT LEAST this being something for Satoko to reflect on would serve ANY purpose at all. Honestly I wish there will be a explanation like this, because the show seem so incoherent... At least if all that is happening is an illusion of Eua, the story make more sense. At least, the next arc will be more interesting, we never seen Mion going to L5 |
| At least the new opening is good I guess... Honestly I don't know why we're even getting solution arcs at this point if it's just going to be rehashed information with a few new scenes peppered in. They need to just get to the point of it all instead of milking it as hard as they have. |
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Hulio said: FrozenSheep said: Watched the old season, read the manga and the VN. And I'm just as lost as you are...(I'm anime only, have only watched GOU previously. Didn't watch the older seasons nor did I play the game(?).) I enjoyed the episode, but I'm literally confused as of... how does making Rika's life miserable, and turning everyone on each other... actually convince Rika to stay? If anything, it would only deepen Rika's desire to get the heck out of the town. Also, this mini arc only reinforce my belief that Satoko is a monster beyond redemption. There is zero redeeming quality about her. She literally pushes her "friend" Rika to suicide. She literally inject a drug to turn her other "friends" crazy. At this point, it has nothing to do with friendship, because Satoko has proven she's an unredeemable monster and unworthy to be called human. She's only in it to make others suffer. Her "goal" to make Rika stay is a lie. She just wants to make others suffer because of her own failings and refuses to change herself. Danpmss said: Excuse me? Sad backstory "just" like Satoko's? Man.There's the main villain in Higurashi that did what Satoko is doing to Rika for a hundred years and still got redeemed by the end in one way or another and many people see that person as sympathetic, even because sad backstory just like Satoko's. Whether their motives were good or not, doesn't change the fact their actions were irredemable up to that point, and made Rika suffer much more than the bloody pulp she is getting beaten into in here, surprisingly enough. The thing is that Satoko is being a lot more twisted about this, and she's purposefully aiming to kill and use others on her twisted game.There's a reason why people don't see Satoko as sympathetic. Tbh, those people who think Satoko is more in the right or more sympathetic are sick. Danpmss said: Why would they execute Tomitake if Takano had her mind changing arc?Right now, considering the info we got in Gou 24, my timeline goes as follow. >Watanagashi comes, time to assassinate Tomitake Flash >Drug gone, Satanko stole the precious thing >They either run away never to be seen again since the plan failed and the Yamainu will execute them, or the Yamainu actually manage to do just that, likely if they attempted to question who could be the one who stole the thingie. Wasn't the whole execution her Idea? Besides if the Yamainu is still active on this sort of stuff, then why were they packing up? As if they had given up like they were supposed to before Tokyo changed Takano's mind. Yeah, both were helplessly abused children. At some point that stopped by different reasons, Satoko having some emotional support from friends while Takano not quite, but they are quite similar, Satoko herself said that, even considering that she was considered a curse from her household. She straight stated that weren't from what hold her from keep going (Rika and Friends, but specially Rika), she would be her future pretty much. That goes for ya too, @Si1verR0se, I will try not bloating the discussion with multiple replies referring to a same subject. Anyway, as I addressed, it doesn't matter if they are more sympathetic, affable psychopaths that slowly kill you "with love" are still killing you. Them being more sympathetic doesn't really change their crimes and sick fuckeries (even because Takano herself did several things out of pure cruelty, regardless of her sympathizing story). I'm ever so surprised on how forgiving the cast was to her, especially Rika, and the audience at that. I agree she is a great villain at least, but she is basically a karma houdini in the OG, all things considered. As for Tomitake and 34, I think you are mixing things up chronologically. As far as Gou 24 tells us, Tomitake escaped and compromised the plan much like in Matsuribayashi (calling in the Banken and making the Yamainu shut down the op). If the operation fails, they pack up everything in the clinic and run away (much like what K1 sees during Onidamashi), before it gets compromised to the point of them having to just submit to the Banken and follow their orders, like what ends up happening in that episode. What you are mixing up is Nekodamashi, which comes later than these arcs. In there Takano has a change of heart and call off the op herself, which then also leads Tomitake to call the Banken. Then again, even if they weren't the Yamainu packing up to leave after the failure, those could still be the Banken in Onidamashi ep4 (like ssjokg pointed out above), and Takano and Tomitake just straight run away. But the presence of the Banken on itself would mean Tomitake called them, and that there was the Yamainu op going on at that point. |
DanpmssJul 9, 2021 2:00 AM
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