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May 17, 2021 2:56 PM
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Ok i do like kureno and i like his kindness but there is limit to how kind you can be to a far gone bitch. I just don’t get his pity. He even slept with her bcs of pity. I actually not sure how i think abt kureno anymore.
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This episode gives me a clear image about Akito. Now I understand the reason why Akito behaved the way she was. At the beginning I hated Akito but I always knew there was a reason behind her way of acting. I feel really bad for Akito, I don't feel any anger towards her, just pity. Kureno's death hit hard, but we all knew it was coming. He chose Akito, he put Akito at the top of his priorities, before his own. Kureno dug his own grave, his kindness made him pay a heavy price. Kureno could have had the life he wanted, but yet he chose someone else before himself.
May 17, 2021 3:10 PM
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I'm a manga reader, started the series way back in 2002 when it was still publishing, and have reread it countless times. I have been waiting so long for that scene with Hiro, I have a son now and I can't even imagine what it would be like to never be able to hold him. To suddenly be able to hold your son after never being able to, the emotions it gives me ;-;

The big final story arc has officially begun, but there's a pretty huge backstory that hasn't been shown yet, so I'm wondering if they're saving it for towards the end. It's pretty important so I can't imagine they'd skip something like that, I was hoping it'd be a full episode but knowing the story pieces left to cover I feel like they may just make it half an episode at most.
May 17, 2021 3:44 PM
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This episode literally had me sobbing, like why tf did that have to happen. And can’t kyos bond be broken already.
May 17, 2021 3:54 PM

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Looks like Hiro is the next one to be freed from the curse. It was nice seeing his mother finally giving him a hug.

Both Akito and her mother seriously need a lot of therapy. Poor Kureno didn't deserve to get stabbed like that.
May 17, 2021 3:59 PM

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Shigure that mind game you played with Ren is insane. Ren is actually messed up for treating Akito that way but despite Akito's hard upbringing there is no redemption for her for what she has done to her family members and especially when he stabbed my boy KURENO it was heartbreaking. Hiro is the next child to break from the curse and man was that a good feeling that he broke away from the ideals of Akito. Hiro hugging his sister and mother was a sight to see. Im still wondering about Kyo and Kyoko and how he was involved in her death. We will probably see that in the next episode.

Im quite interested in why this season will only have 13 episodes instead of the usual 24 but hopefully they wont rush it at the very end. This season has more of a serious tone than the others which i like.

If Kureno dies... because of the scene with Arisa im going to be so mad brooooooo. Akito you dont deserver redemption despite your background.
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I hope they all get their sorry asses yeeted in jail eventually. Ren, Akito, the servants, Shigure; the lot of them are criminal shitstains. I hope the other Zodiacs burn down the entire estate to a crisp!



May 17, 2021 4:07 PM
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Fuck this messed up story. The author is just shifting blame from person to person. And it just doesn't make sense that Ren who is like a mother (Shigure was still a child when she gave birth to Akito) to those Soumas slept with Shigure. The fuck is wrong here, it just keeps dragging nonsense. I felt like dropping it from the beginning.
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Very dramatic episode indeed. i feel bad for kureno, did nothing but support akito but ends up getting stabbed by her. hoping for a successful recovery

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May 17, 2021 4:40 PM
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priyankakarki said:
Fuck this messed up story. The author is just shifting blame from person to person. And it just doesn't make sense that Ren who is like a mother (Shigure was still a child when she gave birth to Akito) to those Soumas slept with Shigure. The fuck is wrong here, it just keeps dragging nonsense. I felt like dropping it from the beginning.


Ren hasn't really acted like a mother to the zodiac though. She's essentially been shunned. Ren has always been attention seeking, apparently, so I'm not entirely surprised she slept with Shigure. Especially considering the fact she probably knows Shigure is the only one who "loves" Akito.
May 17, 2021 4:48 PM
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yawnchawn said:
This episode was insaneee.

It's interesting watching the relationship between Ren and Akito as an adult. As a kid a lot of this didn't make complete sense to me, it was just drama, but trying to figure out what the author is trying to say with a villian like Akito is fascinating. Akito is a parallel to Tohru, even the death of their father early on in life matching up. Difference between them:

1. Their mother's ability to let go of the deceased.

2. The expectations they had for themselves. Akito was told all her life she was to be loved and a god, while it was enough for Tohru to be loved for her mom.

I like how the story isn't afraid to show how bad Akito can be. She's a victim, but victims can be cruel. Can you still forgive her? Trauma rarely shows itself as kind and soft like Tohru, but Akito? She's the ugliness trauma often creates. Considering that Akito hasn't fully let her father go, and Tohru is still heavily attached to her mom, both of their arcs have an obvious conclusion. Let go. Move on.

So as I predicted, the ball is rolling down the hill. I'm so excited for next episode !


Perfectly summed up the parallels between them
May 17, 2021 4:57 PM

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They really playing us with these endings >.>
May 17, 2021 5:18 PM
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It is so sad how we can pity and hate Akito at the same time. "How I am supposed to know things that I'm not teached about?" This gets me so much. Because we hate her, but this is the only way whe knows how to live and now everything is falling apart. Shigure really loves her and I'm excited to watch their relationship development. What seems mean in his actions for some people, it's actually a way to try to make Akito grow up.
I cried so much when Hiro's bound breaked. The scene of him holding his sister and his mother afterwards is incredible. "Farewell hurts" It's the word. They hate to be connected to Akito in such a restritive way. But it still hurts. I can see myself in this. Sometimes we hate one family member, but the blood tends to find meaning in bad actions. It will hurt, but still, it's necessary to free ourselves from what hurt us.
May 17, 2021 5:29 PM

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ggultra2764 said:
Another episode cramming 3-4 chapters together. Part of Chapter 94, as well as Chapters 115, 117, and 118 were adapted in this episode covering developments with Akito.
Part of chapter 93.
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SailorVeki said:
ggultra2764 said:
Another episode cramming 3-4 chapters together. Part of Chapter 94, as well as Chapters 115, 117, and 118 were adapted in this episode covering developments with Akito.
Part of chapter 93.


I've fixed it. Mixed up the chapter numbers.
May 17, 2021 6:34 PM

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oh no Kureno!!! Uo-chan would be so devastated about this!
f*ck Akito!!!


May 17, 2021 7:01 PM
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oh that cliffhanger! wasn't expecting that to be the end. is touru going to confess?! episode went by way too fast.

also the stabbing took me by surprise. somebody please tell me he's not going to die??? the dead bird doesn't bode well.

I guess that's two cliffhangers.
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Why did Hiro's curse break? That happened all of a sudden. Most of the episode was focused on Akito and a bit of Kyo.

Also, I just realized Kyo and Kyoko have similar names. Doh. The orange hair too. Hmm...now I really want to know more about their connection to each other.
May 17, 2021 7:47 PM

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I hate Akito with a PASSION! Oh my God there is nothing this piece of shit can do to redeem herself. NOTHING.

Damn dude she really did my boy Kureno dirty like that?
And the comparison of Arisa finding the dead Bird...please don't fucking toy with my emotions DAMMIT!

The only Positive thing out of this episode was Hiro being able to Hug his sister.


Red said:
Why did Hiro's curse break? That happened all of a sudden. Most of the episode was focused on Akito and a bit of Kyo.

Also, I just realized Kyo and Kyoko have similar names. Doh. The orange hair too. Hmm...now I really want to know more about their connection to each other.


There is no reason it's just natural. They have stated before though how this is the first time every zodiac member is alive at the same time and it's probably just natural for this to be the last of the cursed bloodline.
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May 17, 2021 7:50 PM

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Akito and Ren make such an iconic duo of antagonists

I've always loved Akito as the sole antagonist to this story and I thought Ren would make things weird, but their dynamic is great and I love the drama they bring together. I stan this double threat
May 17, 2021 7:53 PM

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Akito I felt sympathy for her at first and tried to defend her but after what she did at the end I can’t anymore


jesus christ I know right? She's determinate to watch the world burn, the more nuts she gets the better the final confrontation will be

I just know she's gonna go fucking nuts on Tohru but this time she'll fight back
May 17, 2021 8:21 PM

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yawnchawn said:
This episode was insaneee.

It's interesting watching the relationship between Ren and Akito as an adult. As a kid a lot of this didn't make complete sense to me, it was just drama, but trying to figure out what the author is trying to say with a villian like Akito is fascinating. Akito is a parallel to Tohru, even the death of their father early on in life matching up. Difference between them:

1. Their mother's ability to let go of the deceased.

2. The expectations they had for themselves. Akito was told all her life she was to be loved and a god, while it was enough for Tohru to be loved for her mom.

I like how the story isn't afraid to show how bad Akito can be. She's a victim, but victims can be cruel. Can you still forgive her? Trauma rarely shows itself as kind and soft like Tohru, but Akito? She's the ugliness trauma often creates. Considering that Akito hasn't fully let her father go, and Tohru is still heavily attached to her mom, both of their arcs have an obvious conclusion. Let go. Move on.

So as I predicted, the ball is rolling down the hill. I'm so excited for next episode !


Perfect summary of what Akito's character is supposed to represent. I feel like a lot of people on this board are misunderstanding the purpose of Akito's character.
May 17, 2021 8:26 PM
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this episode was crazy ... i think i finally got a good understanding of both ren and akito’s characters... i’m so scared to see how this story ends
May 17, 2021 8:29 PM
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Akito really stabbed my boy Kureno, she’s definitely beyond saving for me, I hated her from the beginning and I can safely say it was the right choice, Ren imo doesn’t seem as bad by comparison. And the way they cut to Arisa right after, that hurts me lol, for the one bit we saw them together in season 2 I had been really hoping it would happen again, but it looks like it might not, I really hope he isn’t dead.
May 17, 2021 8:41 PM
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makotoplz said:
priyankakarki said:
Fuck this messed up story. The author is just shifting blame from person to person. And it just doesn't make sense that Ren who is like a mother (Shigure was still a child when she gave birth to Akito) to those Soumas slept with Shigure. The fuck is wrong here, it just keeps dragging nonsense. I felt like dropping it from the beginning.


Ren hasn't really acted like a mother to the zodiac though. She's essentially been shunned. Ren has always been attention seeking, apparently, so I'm not entirely surprised she slept with Shigure. Especially considering the fact she probably knows Shigure is the only one who "loves" Akito.


I wasn't referring to her motherhood or whatsoever. I understand that she's attention seeking but at the same time, it is shown how much she's devoted to Akira. Idk, it just doesn't make sense to me.

If I have to say, the whole 3rd season seems trash to me. What's the point of it if the curse is breaking randomly without having to put any effort? And if it was to break randomly, I believe they would have been freed generations ago. The author's just beating around the bush, trying to gain empathy from viewers, playing dumb and shifting blame from person to person. I was Ok till season 2 but this final season has made me hate it so much, I could just go on ranting.
May 17, 2021 9:16 PM

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Of course I'm not gonna defend Akito's actions but damn, the environment in which she had to grow up couldn't have been more shitty. Akira's way of raising as well as comforting her before passing away was awful (I guess he meant well but still) and the fact of Ren being nuts even before meeting Akira didn't help either. Not to mention those servants screwing the whole situation even more by giving that box containing the "soul" of her most important person to an already emotionally fragile little girl.

Another great episode overall. Learning about how Akito ended up turning into such horrible person was fascinating and as some people already pointed out here, her persona is indeed a quite interesting parallel to Tohru's character in terms of how death and upbringing can shape a child's mindset.

On the other hand, Hiro breaking his curse and finally being able to hug his baby sister was such an emotional moment. A quite welcome contrast to all this Akito-Ren madness.
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priyankakarki said:
makotoplz said:


Ren hasn't really acted like a mother to the zodiac though. She's essentially been shunned. Ren has always been attention seeking, apparently, so I'm not entirely surprised she slept with Shigure. Especially considering the fact she probably knows Shigure is the only one who "loves" Akito.


I wasn't referring to her motherhood or whatsoever. I understand that she's attention seeking but at the same time, it is shown how much she's devoted to Akira. Idk, it just doesn't make sense to me.

If I have to say, the whole 3rd season seems trash to me. What's the point of it if the curse is breaking randomly without having to put any effort? And if it was to break randomly, I believe they would have been freed generations ago. The author's just beating around the bush, trying to gain empathy from viewers, playing dumb and shifting blame from person to person. I was Ok till season 2 but this final season has made me hate it so much, I could just go on ranting.


lmao please drop it already, Fruits Basket don't need dumb viewers like you that will just lower the overall score because you need to be spoonfeed about everything, seriously, acting like the bond is breaking for no reason or any effort says it all about how little you paid attention lol
May 17, 2021 11:09 PM

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My god almost all the parents in this series are fcking monsters, no wonder their children are miserable or messed up
May 17, 2021 11:16 PM

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Akito and Ren have had a serious history with each other, and while I do feel some sympathy for Aktio, nothing justifies her actions.

The box scene was really well done, edge of my seat and really emotional. Stabbing scene was also very intense.

When will Kyo find happiness :(((((((
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priyankakarki said:
makotoplz said:


Ren hasn't really acted like a mother to the zodiac though. She's essentially been shunned. Ren has always been attention seeking, apparently, so I'm not entirely surprised she slept with Shigure. Especially considering the fact she probably knows Shigure is the only one who "loves" Akito.


I wasn't referring to her motherhood or whatsoever. I understand that she's attention seeking but at the same time, it is shown how much she's devoted to Akira. Idk, it just doesn't make sense to me.

If I have to say, the whole 3rd season seems trash to me. What's the point of it if the curse is breaking randomly without having to put any effort? And if it was to break randomly, I believe they would have been freed generations ago. The author's just beating around the bush, trying to gain empathy from viewers, playing dumb and shifting blame from person to person. I was Ok till season 2 but this final season has made me hate it so much, I could just go on ranting.
priyankakarki said:
makotoplz said:


Ren hasn't really acted like a mother to the zodiac though. She's essentially been shunned. Ren has always been attention seeking, apparently, so I'm not entirely surprised she slept with Shigure. Especially considering the fact she probably knows Shigure is the only one who "loves" Akito.


I wasn't referring to her motherhood or whatsoever. I understand that she's attention seeking but at the same time, it is shown how much she's devoted to Akira. Idk, it just doesn't make sense to me.

If I have to say, the whole 3rd season seems trash to me. What's the point of it if the curse is breaking randomly without having to put any effort? And if it was to break randomly, I believe they would have been freed generations ago. The author's just beating around the bush, trying to gain empathy from viewers, playing dumb and shifting blame from person to person. I was Ok till season 2 but this final season has made me hate it so much, I could just go on ranting.


Obviously they aren't going to reveal the exact reason as to why the curse is breaking instantly, that would take away the tension from not knowing whose is going to break next. Also, the show clearly stated this is the first time all zodiac members have been alive at the same time, their generation is clearly different.
May 18, 2021 1:09 AM
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Noice episode not gonna lie
May 18, 2021 1:19 AM
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So they're just going to leave us on Kureno being stabbed? This is fine

May 18, 2021 1:51 AM
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It’s so weird to have 2 seasons of slow burn followed by a final season that’s all gas and no brakes. Dunno if it’s really landing for me so far, though I did get emotional seeing Hiro hug his sister.

Though I gotta say at this point the series has played the “Parents are bad” card so often that it’s not really shocking to add more abusive parents to the list, for me it’s just like “Well of course”.
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Is Akito competing with her mom regarding claiming the most hateable character position in this show?

Somebody explain to me why this bitch is a psychopath murderer just because she is compelled to feel "special" and defy her mother. This piece of turd:
1. Destroyed the family Hatori could have had
2. Nearly murdered Rin
3. Destroyed a big part of Yuki's childhood, as if his mother wasn't enough
4. Physically abused other Sohmas for petty reasons
5. Stabbed Kureno just because of an emotional outburst

Tell me how am I not supposed to believe she belonged to a padded cell from the very beginning, her mother's involvement was just a catalyst!
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May 18, 2021 2:18 AM
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Poor Hiro, he can't hug Kisa anymore :(

To manga readers, which manga chapters did this episode cover?

Rest of 115, chapter 117, 118 and half of 93. Guessing 3 and a half chapters. Really good for this episode’s content.


Hey can I know what are the chapters which are yet to be adapted and yeah according to ya how many episodes will the final season be. and also they adapted all chapters or did they skip any ?
May 18, 2021 2:52 AM
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Man I was having fun watching Akito suffer but then that damn bitch stabbed Kureno. This bitch is beyond redemption, truck kun should isekai her to Keyaruga's world.

Hiro's curse breaking moment was quite emotional. I'm glad he can finally embrace his sister and mother.

Wait a second, so all this time in their entire life, they can't even hug their own family with opposite gender?? Thats f'ed up
May 18, 2021 2:56 AM
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The episode was amazing ,but will corino die ,but what about otani-san ? But the end bore me so much . you were going to admit her love to kyo why is that and the most beautiful thing is that the help went from hiro
May 18, 2021 3:14 AM
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watching this made me dislike akito again but I can't hate her at all, I just realized there are only 13 episodes as well...
May 18, 2021 3:18 AM
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Fuck this messed up story. The author is just shifting blame from person to person. And it just doesn't make sense that Ren who is like a mother (Shigure was still a child when she gave birth to Akito) to those Soumas slept with Shigure. The fuck is wrong here, it just keeps dragging nonsense. I felt like dropping it from the beginning.
Then please drop since this anime isn't for low IQ people
May 18, 2021 3:25 AM

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i was starting to feel bad about akito cuz maybe she just went through a lot and that's why she's the way she is but fcnsjdbjsjfhshf what she did to kureno that bitch can rot in hell for all i care
May 18, 2021 4:06 AM
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I don't want kureno to die
May 18, 2021 4:39 AM
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This episode was probably my favorite so far; finally seeing everything from Akito's POV was so cathartic. It's been so long since I read the manga I forgot exactly what happened. Amazing music score in this episode, I loved the music that started playing when Akira died. LOVED all the confrontations between Akito and her crazy mom. Loved Shigure putting Ren in her place at last. I forget what happens but I hope his curse is the last one to break and that he's with Akito and holding her when it happens, that would be perfect. I just want them to be together after all the insanity, they are my couple of this season I don't even care about Tohru and Kyo anymore XD

Maybe the short season is a good thing now that I see how dramatic every episode is. This one had the best drama yet, it's gone full-on soap opera mode.
May 18, 2021 5:12 AM

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Damn the whole family is wrecked bad. Hope they find redemption.
Also seems like Kyo is living a lie with his image of Kyouko. Will he be freed from this soon?
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Wow.. This episode was really dark and speechless.. And I have some questions..

1. Is Kyo somehow involved to the mother of tohru's death? Why was Kyo's mother showed up there too?

2. I still can't fully understand how the Zodiacs break there own curse.. Why Hiro's curse has been broken while he's not doing anything that will break it? And why he feels negative emotions when he's been set free from the curse?
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Wow.. This episode was really dark and speechless.. And I have some questions..

1. Is Kyo somehow involved to the mother of tohru's death? Why was Kyo's mother showed up there too?

2. I still can't fully understand how the Zodiacs break there own curse.. Why Hiro's curse has been broken while he's not doing anything that will break it? And why he feels negative emotions when he's been set free from the curse?


Can't answer the part about Tohru's mother, but if we have to believe Kyo's sperm donor she killed suicide because of the stress raising a child from the zodiac gives you. Now given how shitty he is as a father I don't know how much we should believe from him, but Kyo does feel massive guilt about it. The scenes from the last two episodes do also imply he is involved with Tohru's mother and feeling incredibly guilty about her death as well. From what I can tell Kyo feels like everyone he cares about gets hurt in some way or another, which must be utterly crushing him mentally.

I guess the way a curse is broken will be explained in due time. My guess is it's something subconcious. Also notice how the curse had been weakening already and it's the first time since it was set in place that all the zodiacs are alive at the same point, making this generation truly special.

About Hiro's emotions: I believe his mother explained it perfectly. No matter how fucked up their relationships are, there is still this inquestionable bond amongst the zodiacs. When that breaks they get a feeling of not belonging with the rest of them anymore, making them feel extremely lonely. The same thing happened when Momiji's curse broke. He also felt all of that.

To sum things up: Breaking the curse feels like a farewell from the person in question to the people they felt they had most in common with, and while they are now free from the terror their respective god might put them through they will also lose part of their identity, camaraderie etc. because of it.
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This is how I felt while watching this episode:
NoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooYeeNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
May 18, 2021 8:19 AM

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No! No! No! Not Kureno!
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Yeah, the Soma family is well and truly messed up, and with a psycho mother like Ren it's really not at all surprising to see Akito turn out to be an even worse person than her. While it makes a change to actually get Akito's perspective for once, it does nothing to change my feelings about her. And even if it was going to get close to doing so, she then decided to go and stab Kureno and still feels like she's the victim in all of this. That's now the second Zodiac member she's outright attempted to murder, so she deserves no pity or sympathy at all. She's absolute scum raised by absolute scum, and they both deserve to suffer until the end.

At least Hiro's bond is also broken now and he can escape Akito's hellish oppression forever.
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I've always liked Akito, from the beginning. He's not someone I'd want (or respect) irl. but the character is complex and very well written to me. The fear I felt when I read Kureno's stabbing, in the animation they just improve it.

such beautiful moment when Hiro breaks his curse and can hug his little sister (ノv`*). It's interesting to see that there are, almost a few, Soumas mothers who do accept their cursed kids, so they're not ALL dramatic childhoods. And precisely Hiro, so protected and loved is one of the most confrontational
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