Yuukoku no Moriarty Episode 4 Discussion

Anime original episode? I don't know about that because this story is in the manga. They just made a lot of changes.

Stardew said:
Glad the couple are happier in the end. Idk if I want Sherlock to solve this case.

phantomfandom said:
Anyone notice how that woman ruin Moriarty's perfect plan?

The plan is to have viscount collapse in front of garderner and his wife, asking them for help, which they'll decline, but his wife can't maintain her mental so she ruin the plan.

Vindicater said:


I just want Sherlock to show up already and hopefully not be made to be an asshole just to be the antagonist.

whither said:
I really wish the script wasn't so on-the-nose with the way the aristocrats talk down to the poor. Makes it really unbelievable. Even if those are their internal thoughts, no one would be that blunt out loud. They'd talk in circles, make excuses, or just ignore them. Apathy is far more likely than outright malice. If you really considered someone to be beneath you, you wouldn't bother opening the door just to yell at them.

Having that couple bang on the door for help, but no one comes to answer despite there being lights on and movement inside, would have been more believable. Then switch to a scene to the interior where you see the Viscount enjoying dessert or something, while telling his wait staff to ignore the couple, despite clearly hearing them beg for their sons life. Or have the Viscount send a butler to the door to lie that the doctor isn't there. Instead this show has the Viscount himself standing in the doorway and basically yelling "I don't care if your son dies because you are low class!" .....Give me a break.

Clearly the writer wants us to hate these aristocrats so we enjoy their deaths and hand-wave away the morality of their murders due them being such obvious assholes. But good lord I wish it was executed with more subtlety.

ribbonaffair said:
damn, these 3 brothers make for great & strong characters. at this point i wouldn't even mind if it were episodic, this show does it for me.

what were the changes from the manga tho?

whither said:
I really wish the script wasn't so on-the-nose with the way the aristocrats talk down to the poor. Makes it really unbelievable. Even if those are their internal thoughts, no one would be that blunt out loud. They'd talk in circles, make excuses, or just ignore them. Apathy is far more likely than outright malice. If you really considered someone to be beneath you, you wouldn't bother opening the door just to yell at them.

Having that couple bang on the door for help, but no one comes to answer despite there being lights on and movement inside, would have been more believable. Then switch to a scene to the interior where you see the Viscount enjoying dessert or something, while telling his wait staff to ignore the couple, despite clearly hearing them beg for their sons life. Or have the Viscount send a butler to the door to lie that the doctor isn't there. Instead this show has the Viscount himself standing in the doorway and basically yelling "I don't care if your son dies because you are low class!" .....Give me a break.

Clearly the writer wants us to hate these aristocrats so we enjoy their deaths and hand-wave away the morality of their murders due them being such obvious assholes. But good lord I wish it was executed with more subtlety.

I did like how this time the murder was built upon the Viscount's pre-existing health condition and his particular fascination with rare plants. This way it seems like an accident from the get go and they didn't need to do much cover-up of physical evidence. However, it's still extremely suspicious that the Viscount would die so soon after new visitors come to town. I wanted to see Moriarty's manipulative tactics at work as he lies through his teeth to the wait staff and police that go investigate. Skipping over that juicy stuff for a farewell at the train station isn't nearly as satisfying.

I also liked how Moriarty mentioned that the shared burden of the crime strengthened the couple's bound, with how that mirrors the 3 brother's own lives.

Yujeong said:


Oh really? Do you remember the chapter? Because it wasn't on those few I've read yet.
(I didn't even consider they would change the order of the stories haha)

LemonadeYou-kyan said:



Duh, how come you haven't read it when it's the 2nd chapter?

nanimeanswhat said:
Another noble problem solved. I wonder how they managed to get away with the crime tho. The gardener and his wife suddenly quit on the very same day the viscount died from the grapefruit they fed him? Moriarty and his bros can say that they didn't know and save their own asses but didn't the viscount's family think the other two were sus...


And as usual, the episode ended with bleeding ears caused by the worst ED song of the year.

phantomfandom said:
Anyone notice how that woman ruin Moriarty's perfect plan?

The plan is to have viscount collapse in front of garderner and his wife, asking them for help, which they'll decline, but his wife can't maintain her mental so she ruin the plan.