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Aug 16, 2019 9:17 PM

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I have to say, despite the lack luster approach on the back story, I really enjoyed this episode. From the nonchalant bribery into power, to the hero speech, to Hibana understanding that their is good out there. It could of been a bit more and left a bit more food for thought than I would of liked, but I enjoyed it.
Also, that ending 😂

Aug 16, 2019 9:35 PM

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Well a cute episode it is, I love Hibana's power and I thought the fight will be longer because of that power. I was expecting for a long fight, but what we get is a backstory of Hibana and how the church ended up burning itself.
Aug 16, 2019 9:48 PM

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-Stray said:
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she’s not physically strong . It’s just her ability that’s strong , the 5th is a research group and she only became captain because she had info and basically blackmailed her way to that position .

Yeah but, I expected at least one heavy hitter on their squad if they were full of non combat types, their whole squad got took out by literally 2 2nd gens and 2 rookie 3rd gens. But this is just me being too nitpicky.


and how is being taken out by 2 2nd gen weak?
nvm that the entire point of enen like all series is that just because they're both 2nd gen doesnt mean they're weak
its literally this same attitude that got the 5th division ass whooped

reiwa weebs will unironically tell u they want a remake or sequel but when they get it ,its suddenly souless and a cashgrab cause they dont like the thing anymore and cant fathom they grew out of it and must mean the show somehow became bad
Aug 16, 2019 10:03 PM

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TsukuyomiREKT said:
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Eh pretty meh episode. Hibana is just not interesting and her flashback didn't make me change my opinion about her. Shinra's lines were so uninspiring that were rather cringeworthy but that's me being sick of typical shounen wannabe hero characters. Also, Hibana seemingly falling for him through those lines only made it worse. Only thing I liked from this episode was the post-ED scene because the captain got trolled at the end lol


Her falling for Shinra is mostly treated as a joke. I'm 90 chapters into the manga and it's never been taken that seriously. In fact, the series doesn't really have any romantic elements to speak of.


Truth to be told, I never expect romance in a battle shonen. I just found the moment itself cringeworthy because of how cheesy it was lol
Aug 16, 2019 10:14 PM

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Man, Shinra's whole "hero" monologue was really cringey to watch/hear, being honest.

A bit better than the previous episode but impressive animation aside, it was still rather mediocre in terms of storytelling and writing.

Also, I was expecting a bit more from Hibana and Iris' backstory but it ended up being quite... uninspiring in the end. It sure was tragic and all but it didn't make me feel anything for neither of them. I guess I would have feel something for Hibana if her character wouldn't have been portrayed in such exaggerated way but who knows... such a shame but well.
Aug 16, 2019 10:49 PM

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Well the next arc is gonna be great, can't wait to see this animated.
Aug 16, 2019 10:52 PM
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I have been considering it for a while but I am finally dropping this show. Everything just felt so shallow. Also the transitions between scenes felt so sharp, which makes it flow poorly, which is terrible for the action genre, where things are usually fast paced.
People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch.
Aug 16, 2019 11:11 PM

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Boring episode imo
Aug 16, 2019 11:23 PM
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To be honestly, I do like Fire Force in general with first 5 episodes, but by the episode 6, it was one of the worst and the most disappointing episode for me while how Fire Force is going downhill for each fanservice episodes which become getting worse and boring since Shinra Kusakabe versus Princess Hibana was become horribly boring, ugly and suck fighting skill and level unlikely such as Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba's Episode 19 (or could be one of the best anime episode of the year since this episode are over 96%-97% users rating 5/5) damm! I don't see Hibana Princess is unique and interesting character since she was much annoying, bitch and lame mixed feeling Myne/Princess Malty/Bitch Slup from The Rising of the Shield Hero, Isabella from The Promised Neverland (I hate Isabella beginning but she was nice and unique in sometimes by the later episodes) and Nino Nakano from The Quintessential Quintuplets anime series.

But the 2nd half is much better than the 1st half for me.

Next episodes don't let me down again, please!

4/10
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Aug 16, 2019 11:45 PM

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That quick character change of Hibana though. Lmaaao that ending credits scene. Laughed at his reaction realizing that it's over
Aug 17, 2019 12:49 AM

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MonkeyDHunter said:
TsukuyomiREKT said:


Her falling for Shinra is mostly treated as a joke. I'm 90 chapters into the manga and it's never been taken that seriously. In fact, the series doesn't really have any romantic elements to speak of.


Truth to be told, I never expect romance in a battle shonen. I just found the moment itself cringeworthy because of how cheesy it was lol


Yeah, I agree that it's very sudden and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Just wanted to point out that her love for him is a running joke, and at least to my knowledge, no other character falls for him so easily.

Aug 17, 2019 12:57 AM

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Hibana has such a twisted personality
Aug 17, 2019 1:03 AM

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Why did I saw Hibana falling for Shinra coming? Was a bit fast tho I didn't expect her to say it.
The fight was heroic, the flame animations more than beautiful and her backstory was.. touching but didnt touch me I guess..
Hilarious tho how the captain prepares some epic gear just to find out it's already over.
It bugs me that we didn't see Arthur tho.. Makes me feel like something happened to him.. (I mean we didn't see Maki and the Lieutenant too but we kinda know they are ok because of that last scene) maybe I also just forgot something from the last episode

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Aug 17, 2019 1:27 AM

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mc harem continues
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is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps?
Aug 17, 2019 1:35 AM

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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
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Yeah but, I expected at least one heavy hitter on their squad if they were full of non combat types, their whole squad got took out by literally 2 2nd gens and 2 rookie 3rd gens. But this is just me being too nitpicky.


and how is being taken out by 2 2nd gen weak?
nvm that the entire point of enen like all series is that just because they're both 2nd gen doesnt mean they're weak
its literally this same attitude that got the 5th division ass whooped


Considering their attitude beforehand and how cocky they were about themselves I expected them to at least back that shit up, 2 2nd gens literally took out more than 10 of them effortlessly, if that aint weak I dont know what is, its not that deep, and Im not saying just because they're 2nd gens that they're weak, dont put words in my mouth, Im saying 2 people taking out more than 10 people with little to no effort makes those 10+ weak.
Aug 17, 2019 1:38 AM

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-Stray said:
Mei-o_Scarlett said:


and how is being taken out by 2 2nd gen weak?
nvm that the entire point of enen like all series is that just because they're both 2nd gen doesnt mean they're weak
its literally this same attitude that got the 5th division ass whooped


Considering their attitude beforehand and how cocky they were about themselves I expected them to at least back that shit up, 2 2nd gens literally took out more than 10 of them effortlessly, if that aint weak I dont know what is, its not that deep, and Im not saying just because they're 2nd gens that they're weak, dont put words in my mouth, Im saying 2 people taking out more than 10 people with little to no effort makes those 10+ weak.


> literally 2 2nd gens
then the 2nd gen part is literally uneeded and just implies something else
also given that these 2 2nd gens can beat the shit out of our mcs at least
it should already be enough of an indicator that yknow
maybe they arent your average fighters

reiwa weebs will unironically tell u they want a remake or sequel but when they get it ,its suddenly souless and a cashgrab cause they dont like the thing anymore and cant fathom they grew out of it and must mean the show somehow became bad
Aug 17, 2019 2:01 AM

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mc harem continues


He literally never has a harem.

Aug 17, 2019 2:31 AM

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I have survived somehow. I have to say this episode and last one was just a fucking shitshow. These were very bad episodes and when the people praising this show barely over 100 to 500 posts that tells you something ain't right. But like the last thread, let's review episode 6 in the same way I did episode 5. We can tell you why the show's MAL Score is falling into the toilet.

-Shinra is hamming up his role as the shonen main boy with his spamming of hero talk. He may not be whiny like the other main boys, but he will tell he wants to be a hero. If you have played wild Arms 2, you will hate this character more.

-Hibana shows up and she is looking sexy and pretty and fucking awesome. And I am like, "God, why does this character exist in such a bad show? She is awesome." Her backstory and reasons make a lot of sense. She lost faith and used her powers to do what she wanted to do. She embraces being a devil while Shinra rejects it. I got no problems with anything they did here besides making her look like a joke and wanting Shinra's cock after getting punch in the face. I will also have to note some of her dialogue heavily fell into the relam of twirling mustache villian. Btw that was her backstory not really Iris's backstory. But we'll save Iris for later.

-Shinra keeps hero spamming and thinks being lightheaded is a state of mind. Uh...Shinra it's not. *Gets beat up some more.* Is he gonna learn it isn't? OH wait...I am getting a feeling. I can sense it. Ugh...what is this? Ohh....it is...

-THE RANDOM SHONEN ASSPULL HAS REVEAL ITSELF! Shinra ignores being daze and confuse and power throughs her offense because fuck you the plot has given him the power like He-man to defeat her and turn her into a babyface. She got the good guy punch in the face. Move over Naruto and Deku, Shinra is turning a character babyface by punching the shit out despite being at a disadvantage! On a serious note, it makes zero sense why Shinra did that and it is an asspull. Don't defend it. You know the plot just gave him that power.

-The fight and overall aniamtion is pretty sweet even if the pacing is bizarre and the cuts are off at some points. But hey this piece of shit looks pretty. That's all you need, right?

-Oh...what about Iris? Yeah, she is there. She is just chilling and relaxing. Hmm...uh....so where that backstory? You gonna hide that you use her as a plot device by saying she isn't shy anymore when you have shown that already? You legit just blackball one of your own characters for the sake of plot and hero spamming as far as the eyes can see. Congrats Iris, you have upgraded to the role of cheerleader nun. She has been made so useless words can't describe.

-Oh the 5th division got job out by one dude? Welp we know the world is save when one of the divisions of it are made out to look like jobbers. I know there are research team but to look like is just sad and just makes the 8th look like John Cena. The way they handle this made you really have to ask, "Are they really that bad?" Stop me for a second. Is catching Inferals and turning them into weapons really unethical? It seems more useful than bad. You can argue, "ThEiR GoAl Is To Be PuT To ReSt!"but that won't get them anywhere if they are just killing them and saying, "Latmo."

-Following up from this...they are just gonna stop looking into the "Shady practices" of the 5th and have a dinner party just makes this whole situation look dumb and makes the 8th look like bullies and what I said about this being a legal headache cleanup is going to be solve by Hibana working her paperwork magic. She gets off scott free for blackmailing her way to the top. Yay! Friendship baby!

-The closing scene is mildly funny but just seems pointless and that they are just gonna drop everything.

In closing, if this episode played out the same way it did in the manga, I have lost a lot of respect for the author. His writing has really been on the decline since Soul Eater Not. It is really starting to show he is leaning on plot armor and asspulls to tell a story and it makes me wonder how this guy wrote Soul Eater. This episode was bad, and he just outright buried one of his own characters for no reason for the sake of a plot.
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Aug 17, 2019 2:53 AM

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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
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Considering their attitude beforehand and how cocky they were about themselves I expected them to at least back that shit up, 2 2nd gens literally took out more than 10 of them effortlessly, if that aint weak I dont know what is, its not that deep, and Im not saying just because they're 2nd gens that they're weak, dont put words in my mouth, Im saying 2 people taking out more than 10 people with little to no effort makes those 10+ weak.


> literally 2 2nd gens
then the 2nd gen part is literally uneeded and just implies something else
also given that these 2 2nd gens can beat the shit out of our mcs at least
it should already be enough of an indicator that yknow
maybe they arent your average fighters


Thats quite the reach you've got there, why would I even say they're weak when my first post had me saying Maki could have beaten Hibana as well and how Maki had Arthur and Shinra call it quits? quick advice, dont assume stuffs just because I've added what their power category is and jump to radical conclusions.
Aug 17, 2019 3:11 AM

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@MasterHavik Don't see how the amount of posts someone has matters in any way. People just have different opinions and like the show more than you. Not that hard to understand.

Aug 17, 2019 3:14 AM

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Mei-o_Scarlett said:


> literally 2 2nd gens
then the 2nd gen part is literally uneeded and just implies something else
also given that these 2 2nd gens can beat the shit out of our mcs at least
it should already be enough of an indicator that yknow
maybe they arent your average fighters


Thats quite the reach you've got there, why would I even say they're weak when my first post had me saying Maki could have beaten Hibana as well and how Maki had Arthur and Shinra call it quits? quick advice, dont assume stuffs just because I've added what their power category is and jump to radical conclusions.


gomen this was my bad
just assumed cause power lvl :disappointed:

but back to the orginal

they, heck
most of them havent actually fought real people, much less maki
and most infernal could probably get wiped by the 5th division
add on that the 8th division is recently formed
and led by a dude who isnt even that strong(to them anyways)
reiwa weebs will unironically tell u they want a remake or sequel but when they get it ,its suddenly souless and a cashgrab cause they dont like the thing anymore and cant fathom they grew out of it and must mean the show somehow became bad
Aug 17, 2019 3:22 AM

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TsukuyomiREKT said:
@MasterHavik Don't see how the amount of posts someone has matters in any way. People just have different opinions and like the show more than you. Not that hard to understand.
While yeah people have differing opinions that's fine but I legit feel thsoe accounts are either sockpuppets or made by trolls. Because what is said feels fake. Espeically one of the comments being surpsie by what happens to Hibana. They don't feel legit. I also feel if these are real accounts these people haven't watch a lot of anime. Espeically battle shonen. So yeah...
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Aug 17, 2019 3:47 AM

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Hibana x Shinra? I'll ship it
Don't believe the hype.
Aug 17, 2019 4:17 AM

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Good episode. I never mentioned this, but this show's sounds and effects are really something beautiful.

Captain Obi at the end of the episode, lol.
Aug 17, 2019 4:36 AM

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Ahh this end scene... xD
Aug 17, 2019 4:46 AM

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Idk why but I enjoyed a lot Hibana and Iris backstory and the why she started being a sado idiot. Is it true that the Talk no Jutsu was fast af but well, this isn't a war it was clear that no one was going to die.
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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
-Stray said:

Thats quite the reach you've got there, why would I even say they're weak when my first post had me saying Maki could have beaten Hibana as well and how Maki had Arthur and Shinra call it quits? quick advice, dont assume stuffs just because I've added what their power category is and jump to radical conclusions.


gomen this was my bad
just assumed cause power lvl :disappointed:

but back to the orginal

they, heck
most of them havent actually fought real people, much less maki
and most infernal could probably get wiped by the 5th division
add on that the 8th division is recently formed
and led by a dude who isnt even that strong(to them anyways)

Its cool, glad we got rid of that misunderstanding quick.
Ye, Maki looked like she really didnt want to fight people, Hinawa on the other hand went ham.
Anyhow the character Im lookin forward the most is Obi.
Aug 17, 2019 5:19 AM

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Harem?!
That was a great post credits though.
Aug 17, 2019 5:27 AM
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getting pretty bad in my opinion, the events makes no fucking sense and the pacing is horrible. The first 2 episodes were way beter
Aug 17, 2019 5:28 AM
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Ok to the stupid ass dumb idiots.

Hibana had her faith crumbled when she saw those who grew up and they were innocent
turning into infernals so that shock her faith as she realized god does not exist because
if god existed why he would allow for something so terrible to happen.

Iris presence reminded hibana her past and that's why she burned her clothes in the previous episode.
It was literally metaphorical situation (that's for the retards who claimed that it was 100% pure fanservice the reason to why this happened) also you can see her giving a coat so iris is not naked (i am not reading anyone from those who said they hated the fanservice to feel appreciate about this i am sure if iris was naked those assholes would be here talking about the fanservice but you do not see them when something good happen to even mention this)

Also the 5th division is just a newformed researching facility on top on that it's the 1rst arc so
did you guys expected strong enemies in the 1rst arc?

Hibana named her attacks from some of the kids they turned into infernals was
something i literally haven't noticed anyone aside me spotting it (seems like when i said in the previous episode that people watch episodes but they literally never pay any attention i absolutely correct)

In episode 5 the conehead guy who disturbed the drug to the talking infernal they got
his name is (minion) and he represents the minions and dr nefario from the (Despicable Me) movie in the fire force even his freaking design looks like this so this makes
princes hibana a sort of like Felonius Gru the main character of that movie who was a bad guy who turned into good and stopped his evil deeds.



There are way more than all those lowly ameba lvl who comment their bullshits claiming the story is poor in enen no shouboutai.
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Good episode. Its nice conclusion of the fight with backstories of Princess Hibana and sister Iris. And the end credit scene is hilarious. To the next episode


Aug 17, 2019 6:01 AM
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fire force best anime in 2019
Aug 17, 2019 6:41 AM

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While it was predictable as hell, I still kinda liked this episode. Gotta enjoy what you’ve been given

Looking forward to the next episode
Aug 17, 2019 7:07 AM
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GUYS GIVE THIS SHOW A CHANCE PLEASE.
Aug 17, 2019 7:15 AM

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That was globally great, both the fight (Hibana's sakura tree had really nice visuals) and the elements of background/story given.

The post-ending scenes were funny as well, with Hibana's admitting she took a liking on Shinra lul, while Obi was preparing for war haha
Aug 17, 2019 7:21 AM

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Not a good episode, possibly even a bad one. Worst episode so far by a fair amount.
Like always, the animation is very nice to look at, but the pacing is all over the place. After one punch, an antagonist does a complete 180 thanks to our MC with his "determination".
I still wouldn't call this series so far "bad". It's still good, but consistency is a major problem thus far.

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GUYS GIVE THIS SHOW A CHANCE PLEASE.

We are. It's been 6 episodes, so it's no longer a grace period.
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So they went with the Naruto logic of "beating the villain until they become good guys". Well, that was stupid. In the end, what was the point in all that? What "investigation" did they do there? We know they "won", cause Hibana will probably tell them all they wanted to know (because she fell in love with the MC, what are the odds?), but it's such a hollow and unfulfilling victory. All the set up was for nothing, basically.

On the topic of Hibana, how does one go from "torturing an old friend while laughing maniacally" to "redeemed and back to being a good person" in minutes, because of a punch? Did she get a concussion or something? Is she like a remote control running out of battery? Also, her backstory first showing her laughing in front of the flames, as if she'd always been evil, and later showing her crying with a smile, as if she was in shock, is such a cheesy cop out.

Worst episode so far. Hope this show will eventually get better, or I'm out.
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My only complaint with the episode was how quickly this arc got wrapped up.

Now, this episode showed one of the ways some people deal with trama.
Aug 17, 2019 11:00 AM

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So, it looks like only Hibana that has the power of Pyrokinese when she was still with the sisters, she only become an evil yandere after witnessing the demise of the other sisters.......and now she's one of the guy's harem members.
Aug 17, 2019 11:25 AM

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This was by far my favourite episode so far. It was visually stunning, the music perfectly helped build the scenes and we got to see more depth to the characters (especially Hibana).

One reason i love anime so much is the way they create characters with such realistic and believable psychology and Hibana is such a brilliant example of that. Like the way one of her more powerful moves is a sakura tree, something she subconsciously connects with her power because of the orphanage, or the fact that she believes she is evil because of her power so she lives up to that stereotype.

Anime is so amazing haha
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Around here is where I stopped reading the manga. Everything about this arc felt off for me and I just wasn't invested enough in the characters to continue. The anime is slightly better, in the sense that some of these characters have a bit more of an impression on me(like Maki for example). Other characters still bug the shit out of me though(fucking Arthur).

I think animation and voice acting really elevate the things that felt boring or cringy in the manga. Shinra's whole thing with the different superhero names still irks me. Also Hibana's change in character. However, the actual fight is far more interesting with color, animation, and music.

I'm going to keep watching, even if this anime clearly does have several issues(mostly with pacing I feel).

PS: It's insane to me that this series' score has gone down so drastically. At the beginning of the season, it was at like an 8.32 and it dropped with every consecutive episode.


Do you judge the score of an anime because if we go into details it about how that score fell you are gonna creep out.

The thing is many of the people seem to give really low scores on this anime and if you go and check the reviews they represent like with 6-8 or 10 negative points it depends on how many thing you did not liked and they are like: " i didn't liked it because of those things" and then you go and watch some other reviews of other shows they gave that they have the exact same and even worst flows and they have them a score of 7 or 8.

So if this is not people intentionally giving low score and bad reviews to harm an anime show then what is it? because there is no way this is 100% fair criticm to have like 10 flows and then on the one show you give 1,2,3 or 4 at best which 4 is below the mediocre and then they go to other shows that have th exact same flows and they give 7 or 8 like what the action crap?

This is not what 100% fair review this is just a dude who tries to troll and make damage an anime on purpose and there are a lot of dudes like those.
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I just want to thank Shinra for that Anti-THOT Hissatsu Waza BYOUDOU
Each one of us could use these Shinras, I believe. From time to time.

Good twist on Hibana... as good as it could have been since that atrocious generic arc of hers. I have just read people say that this series depicts psychology as "such realistic and believable". Mhm. No commentary there, lest I bust my sarcasm gauge.

The "score drops" some overly simple viewers seem to care about are due to censoring and giving in to terror, and because of direction of each episode - it is way too advanced for a generic "shounen" title, and viewers who came here for the generic "shounen" series... get kinda confused. Poor sods. I feel them.
Not much else to mention about the episode, I guess. Nothing happened except for that backstory everyone with basic education in literature could see. Soooooooooo... Ah yeah the power scaling is again, as it happens with action-based series, an utter nonsense. There.
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To those that have read the manga... Does it get better?
The art is great, and some of the characters are interesting, but the last couple episodes have been big letdowns.

Hibana clearly had stronger abilities, and should have wiped the floor with Shinra. He just suddenly becomes immune to her abilities (for no reason), he empathizes with her (her backstory has to be pretty common in this world, so finding someone with a similar one really shouldn't be unusual), and then beats her with a single punch because of plot armor/hero (nakama) power. Then she suddenly becomes a good guy, gives up on what defined her character for the previous years of her life, and falls for the main character because he punched her in the face. Did she have a major concussion that altered her personality? That seems to be the only explanation.

This was painful to watch. The action was the equivalent of Byakuya using his Bankai, and Ichigo beating it with Shikai by just walking through it (not dodging, not slicing it, nothing) and punching Byakuya a single time.

So... In the manga does it get better? Or is this par for the course in this series?
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To those that have read the manga... Does it get better?
The art is great, and some of the characters are interesting, but the last couple episodes have been big letdowns.

Hibana clearly had stronger abilities, and should have wiped the floor with Shinra. He just suddenly becomes immune to her abilities (for no reason), he empathizes with her (her backstory has to be pretty common in this world, so finding someone with a similar one really shouldn't be unusual), and then beats her with a single punch because of plot armor/hero (nakama) power. Then she suddenly becomes a good guy, gives up on what defined her character for the previous years of her life, and falls for the main character because he punched her in the face. Did she have a major concussion that altered her personality? That seems to be the only explanation.

This was painful to watch. The action was the equivalent of Byakuya using his Bankai, and Ichigo beating it with Shikai by just walking through it (not dodging, not slicing it, nothing) and punching Byakuya a single time.

So... In the manga does it get better? Or is this par for the course in this series?


It goes better from this arc afterward, the plot thickens a lot more also in order to answer your question i may have to spoil something i think in the manga she said:


Does the answer satisfy you?
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MasterHavik said:
I have survived somehow. I have to say this episode and last one was just a fucking shitshow. These were very bad episodes and when the people praising this show barely over 100 to 500 posts that tells you something ain't right. But like the last thread, let's review episode 6 in the same way I did episode 5. We can tell you why the show's MAL Score is falling into the toilet.

-Shinra is hamming up his role as the shonen main boy with his spamming of hero talk. He may not be whiny like the other main boys, but he will tell he wants to be a hero. If you have played wild Arms 2, you will hate this character more.

-Hibana shows up and she is looking sexy and pretty and fucking awesome. And I am like, "God, why does this character exist in such a bad show? She is awesome." Her backstory and reasons make a lot of sense. She lost faith and used her powers to do what she wanted to do. She embraces being a devil while Shinra rejects it. I got no problems with anything they did here besides making her look like a joke and wanting Shinra's cock after getting punch in the face. I will also have to note some of her dialogue heavily fell into the relam of twirling mustache villian. btw that as her backstory not really Iris's backstory. But we'll save Iris for later.

-Shinra keeps hero spamming and thinks being lightheaded is a state of mind. Uh...Shinra it's not. *Gets beat up some more.* Is he gonna learn it isn't? OH wait...I am getting a feeling. I can sense it. Ugh...what is this? Ohh....it is...

-THE RANDOM SHONEN ASSPULL HAS REVEAL ITSELF! Shinra ignores beign daze and confuse and power throughs her offense because fuck you the plot has given the power like He-man to defeat her and turn her into a babyface. She got the good guy punch in the face. Move over Naruto and Deku, Shinra is turning character babyface by punching the shit out despite being at a disadvantage! On a serious note, it makes zero sense why Shinra did that and it is an asspull. Don't defend it. You know the plot just gave him that power.

-The fight and overall aniamtion is pretty sweet even if the pacing is bizarre and the cuts are off at some points. But hey this piece of shit looks pretty. That's all you need, right?

-Oh...what about Iris? Yeah, she is there. She is just chilling and relaxing. Hmm...uh....so where that backstory? You gonna hide that you use her as a plot device by saying she isn't shy anymore when you have shown that already? You legit jsut blackball one of your own characters for the sake of plot and hero spamming as far as the eyes can see. Congrats Iris, you have upgraded to the role of cheerleader nun. She has been made so useless words can't describe.

-Oh the 5th division got job out by one dude? Welp we know the world is save when one of the divisions of it are made out to look liek jobbers. I know there are research team but to look like is jsut sad and just makes the 8th look like John Cena. The way they handle this made you really have to ask, "Are the really that bad?" Stop me for a second. Is catching Inferals and turning them into weapons relaly unethical? It seems more useful than bad. You can argue, "ThEiR GoAl Is To PuT To ReSt!"but that won't get them anywhere if they are just killing them and saying, "Latmo."

-Following up from this...they are just gonna stop looking into the "Shady practices" of the 5th and have a dinner party just makes this whole situation look dumb and makes the 8th look like bullies and what I said about this being a legal headache cleanup is going to be solve by Hibana working her paperwork magic. She gets off scot free for blackmailing her way to the top. Yay! Friendship baby!

-The closing scene is mildly funny but just seems pointless and that they are just gonna drop everything.

In closing, if this episode played out the same way it did in the manga, I have lsot a lot of respect for the author. His writing has really been on the decline since Soul Eater Not. It is really starting to show he is leaning on plot armor and asspulls to tell a story and it makes me wonder how this guy wrote Soul Eater. This episode was bad, and he just outright buried one of his own characters for no reason for the sake of a plot.


I agree with everything. Shinra suffers from shounen MC syndrome.
Aug 17, 2019 3:57 PM
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Gourmetforce said:
Sarnlest said:
To those that have read the manga... Does it get better?
The art is great, and some of the characters are interesting, but the last couple episodes have been big letdowns.

Hibana clearly had stronger abilities, and should have wiped the floor with Shinra. He just suddenly becomes immune to her abilities (for no reason), he empathizes with her (her backstory has to be pretty common in this world, so finding someone with a similar one really shouldn't be unusual), and then beats her with a single punch because of plot armor/hero (nakama) power. Then she suddenly becomes a good guy, gives up on what defined her character for the previous years of her life, and falls for the main character because he punched her in the face. Did she have a major concussion that altered her personality? That seems to be the only explanation.

This was painful to watch. The action was the equivalent of Byakuya using his Bankai, and Ichigo beating it with Shikai by just walking through it (not dodging, not slicing it, nothing) and punching Byakuya a single time.

So... In the manga does it get better? Or is this par for the course in this series?


It goes better from this arc afterward, the plot thickens a lot more also in order to answer your question i may have to spoil something i think in the manga she said that she hasn't done any train with her fire powers and she just became a captain recently but only because she got the rank though those experiments she did so she is super weak in comparison to the rest firepower captains.


Like, you say she is super weak in comparison to the rest of the fire force captains yet...
Her ability completely debilitated Shinra... Then it randomly didn't work at all (no decent explanation).
Then her Sakura tree was CLEARLY a significant power which should have burnt Shinra to a crisp... Then he just stepped through it like it wasn't there.

And then she goes from wanting to make Shinra her b**** to wanting to be Shinra's b**** just because he punched her once? Not to mention going from evil to good from the same punch...

Its great if the plot evolves, but does it repeatedly do more ass pulls? This was a worse resolution than most Fairy Tail fights and her about face in character was ridiculous.
Aug 17, 2019 4:00 PM

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This episode really fell flat for me. It just screamed generic shounen to me shouting and screaming about heroes and ideologies that are all resolved because someone believed harder and shounen plot armor. It consistently looks great, but considering the author I don't see this going anyway any time soon.
Aug 17, 2019 4:21 PM
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Sarnlest said:
Sarnlest said:
To those that have read the manga... Does it get better?
The art is great, and some of the characters are interesting, but the last couple episodes have been big letdowns.

Hibana clearly had stronger abilities, and should have wiped the floor with Shinra. He just suddenly becomes immune to her abilities (for no reason), he empathizes with her (her backstory has to be pretty common in this world, so finding someone with a similar one really shouldn't be unusual), and then beats her with a single punch because of plot armor/hero (nakama) power. Then she suddenly becomes a good guy, gives up on what defined her character for the previous years of her life, and falls for the main character because he punched her in the face. Did she have a major concussion that altered her personality? That seems to be the only explanation.

This was painful to watch. The action was the equivalent of Byakuya using his Bankai, and Ichigo beating it with Shikai by just walking through it (not dodging, not slicing it, nothing) and punching Byakuya a single time.

So... In the manga does it get better? Or is this par for the course in this series?



Like, you say she is super weak in comparison to the rest of the fire force captains yet...
Her ability completely debilitated Shinra... Then it randomly didn't work at all (no decent explanation).
Then her Sakura tree was CLEARLY a significant power which should have burnt Shinra to a crisp... Then he just stepped through it like it wasn't there.

And then she goes from wanting to make Shinra her b**** to wanting to be Shinra's b**** just because he punched her once? Not to mention going from evil to good from the same punch...

Its great if the plot evolves, but does it repeatedly do more ass pulls? This was a worse resolution than most Fairy Tail fights and her about face in character was ridiculous.[/quote]

Well in one piece luffy beat alvida in like one hit usually the first arc boss fights are kinda well super low tier no wonder hibana lost from one punch to the head the again the point wasn't to kill her but to reason with her and i think they messed up the dialogue with hibana and shinra after the fight i think i need to rewatch the episode and compare it with the manga again to be able to tell the differences but i agree with you it kinda felt like an asspull beating her then again it's not like she was k.o by that hit she had her sense and if this was supposed to be real fight i am sure they would continue.
Aug 17, 2019 4:25 PM
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Yautja said:
This episode really fell flat for me. It just screamed generic shounen to me shouting and screaming about heroes and ideologies that are all resolved because someone believed harder and shounen plot armor. It consistently looks great, but considering the author I don't see this going anyway any time soon.


I am not sure if i would call this a shounen because in the manga there is a lot of death
and in shounen they do not kill so easy characters
Aug 17, 2019 4:47 PM

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The analogue between the cherry blossom tree looming over the girls abbey and the cherry blossoms used in the flames is at least interesting.


I made a gif

Hibana had the same demonic smile as Shinra, shielding her younger sister from the flames.
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