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DrThots said: I don't really get it, Ray told Gilda it's in the ceiling of the second floor bathroom and Don it is under the bed, Gilda tells Mama that it was under the bed and it was gone. Why does he suspect Ray then? We saw Gilda walking away and then Mama receiving the information because they wanted us to believe that the traitor was Gilda but then they revealed that it wasn't her by showing us that the letter read "under Normans bed" while Gilda would've told her "on the attic". So it had to be Don, we just didn't get to see him doing it. At the end Norman suspects Ray, so I guess what he did was to tell Gilda and Don each a different place for hiding the ropes and then tell Ray that he told them "attic" for Gilda and "bed" for Don. Actually he told them both different locations, neither attic or bed - so when the ropes under the bed or in the attic would've been gone he would know that the spy wasn't Gilda or Don but Ray. Okay, that was a little complicated to explain... Anyhow, I got so hyped for the next episode (again!) and now have to wait another week (again! aaarrrgh!). Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
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| Probably the best paced episode so far. You can tell it didn't adapt a million chapters of the manga into a single anime episode like the previous 3 did. I think I would be enjoying this much more if I hadn't read the manga. I'm still angry we're only getting 12 episodes to adapt the entire first arc, when it clearly should've been 25. I'm also not a big fan of the soundtrack, it feels a bit off. I do like the animation and the expressions of the characters, which are a huge thing that add to the horror effect. And that final scene with the cliffhanger was fantastic. |
| Ah Ocalino said: It would have been much more suspenseful and unexpected if they kept the last scene into the upcoming episode instead of making it into a dumb cliffhanger. Now, not only the anime is rushed, but it also feels rushed. No it would have been less impactful if they left it for the next eps. Ending the eps with Gilda being the spy or Ray being the spy? Which one would shock the fanbase more? Obviously the latter. |
Player333 said: Ok, guys, I've been reading all the diferents opinions and comments about all The episodes from The Promised Neverland, and I just figured out something: All manga readers are going to HATE this anime ADAPTATION (that is a fact). And it's a pity, cause everybody (at least those who want enjoy the anime ADAPTATION of their favourite manga) is enjoying this show. This Last episode was great. Is it going to skip some parts or dialogues? YES. Will it be diferent from the original source? Of COURSE. Just deal with it! Learn the difference between hating and being disappointed, then you can point at us like you are doing |
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ttcchen said: Ah Ocalino said: It would have been much more suspenseful and unexpected if they kept the last scene into the upcoming episode instead of making it into a dumb cliffhanger. Now, not only the anime is rushed, but it also feels rushed. No it would have been less impactful if they left it for the next eps. Ending the eps with Gilda being the spy or Ray being the spy? Which one would shock the fanbase more? Obviously the latter. Well not really, I mean I understand where you're coming from but I read the manga and if they kept the scene for the next episode I can guarantee you that everyone would be in shock and that the episode would be way more memorable, one week gives you plenty of time to digest the events. I also hate the fact that they are throwing those types of cliffhanger out of nowhere, it was the same last episode, where in the manga there's a long talk to get to the conclusion that there's a mole, in the anime it comes out of nowhere just for cliffhanger sake. |
OcalinoJan 31, 2019 2:14 PM
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| Well played Norman, really well played. So Ray is the traitor/spy. Can't wait to see what will happen next week! I swear that "walking up the stairs" sequence made me feel so god damn nervous. That was quite well done if you ask me! |
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Ocalino said: It would have been much more suspenseful and unexpected if they kept the last scene into the upcoming episode instead of making it into a dumb cliffhanger. Now, not only the anime is rushed, but it also feels rushed. Now, as a non manga reader and as someone who doesn't judge anything if they're not finished And i want to say that i don't want to defend something i don't know i like and i don't want to say you're wrong Let's put the definition of Rushed here: "done or completed too hurriedly; hasty" Applied to a story, it can go like this:"to move, act, or progress with speed" Now, something that after 1|3 of its length and that after the big revelation in episode 1 still hasn't done anything but has only built character, motivations, setting, atmosphere and it's taking time to build the "escape" moment. We did not "rush" to a solution and we did not "rush" to a radical shift of the entire perspective, after 90:20 minutes we're still preparing and trying to outwit one another. An example of "rushed" can be find in the series "Akame ga Kill", where character development is "rushed" in 8-10 minutes in order to make the audience feel a specific thing about that character in the quickest way possible; another can be (and i like this show) Gurren Lagann, where some parts in the last arc are rushed in order to quickly move on to the most epic stuff and, while not bad, they ultimately offer very few character moments and feel very quick Can you really say that this show moves fast after i said the definition and done some examples?If the manga moves even slower, then i have just 2 last things to say -Over monologuing and too much exposition can ruin the flow of a narrative and make it feel "slow"(Which i like), especially if you put twist after twist in the narrative: films like The Departed work because they cut some of this stuff in orderto keep the audience engaged -Animation is a different medium, as i learned, from watching my favorite books and manga come to life, being a carbon copy is a failure of an adaptation, because it's a lazy attempt to appeal to a larger audience. I am not saying that you should be doing something different, but changing stuff can't be considered bad by itself, only how they change stuff, and remember that they might be trying another type of narrative |
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| I find Krone's temper kinda funny this episode.The whole trust issues is really the one thing we'll wonder how it ends. Anyway, wonder who tip Mom. |
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| The walls of Gracefield House must be extremely soundproof. If not, then how the hell can Krone go on a temper tantrum like that and no one else notices? XD Things were pretty intense when it came to Emma listening in on Gilda's visit to Krone, who was doing her best to pry a confirmation out of Gilda about Emma, Ray and Norman. Luckily, Gilda was able to hold out against Krone and her wacky facial expressions. However, Norman suspects Ray is the traitor, which totally caught Ray by surprise. I'm really eager to learn if Norman's accusation is true or not, but I'll wait for the next episode to answer that question for me. =) |
| Damm Krone has some serious anger issues there lol. Though harsh in this situation you have to be alert of the other kids as well. While no doubt hard to put into words it's nice that they were able to tell others about the truth that they had found. While its good that Gilda didn't turn out to be the spy looks like Krone is determined to catch the team. Emma though really has a heart of gold in wanting to save everyone. That ending though sure was unexpected. A compelling but equally tense episode that did well in showing that even among friends and family the potential for traitors is not zero. |
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| Great episode, they adapt it faithfully this time. The Krone and Gilda scene is intense and the additional camera shots like the stairs like it. Im gonna say that the manga readers here jumping to conclusion like this episode they adapt few but with remaining chapters, its gonna be slow forward. Im pretty curious how they gonna adapt the ray and norman confrontation, i know its gonna be intense. |
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| so in the end Ray is the spy? I thought it was Gilda ^^; At first when I saw Gilda's cold eyes, I just couldn't believe it! But after I found out she's innocent, I felt tricked D: Either way, nice episode :) very intense! |
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Loominarty said: kater_tot said: What the actual FUCK?! That ending... i'm not gonna be able to stop thinking about it all week! I really hope Ray isn't the traitor because i really like him (he might even be my fav character). That scene with Krone and Gilda had my heart pounding so fast What do you mean, you hope he isn't? He definitely is. Norman told Don the rope is in some other place and told Ray that he told Don the rope's under the bed, so Ray was the only one who knew about the bed. I know but i just really want it not to be him! |
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ziad1419 said: MonkeyDHunter said: Unlike with the first three episodes, I didn't enjoy that one. Not that the first three episodes were perfect either but this one really felt rushed and the transition between the scenes was quite distracting to me. Hopefully, it will pick up again but I'm not holding my breath. They adapt just 2 chapters in this episode Its not rushed exactly the previous 2 eps are way more rushed than this one, something must be wrong with u if u feel this one is more rushed than the others |
| Having read the manga and some of the scans, it's an excellent episode! The first-person sequence is very cool, as is Sister Krone's expression when Gilda went to see her. I was expecting this end of episode where |
ElyshionJan 31, 2019 3:02 PM
| Very good episode, the best episode since the first one. This episode definitely was not rushed since they adapted 2,5 chapters and all the important things were there. The only thing I didn't like was Sister Krone' speech... what's with that happy music? And she really should think instead of talk out loud her plans (like in the manga). Besides that, I really liked the pov scenes, the direction in general is the highlight of this show. Very emotional the scene with Don and Gilda in the library. Next episode, Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenFeb 1, 2019 10:00 PM
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| I actually had a feeling it was Ray. Didn't expect it till now. Who else would Mom trust to be under the radar? Of course, it seems like Norman didn't tell Don and Gilda about the rope at all. Ray was the only person that Norman told. But this gets interesting for me because if they manage to convince Ray to truly join sides, then they have a card up their sleeve. |
HereticHunter said: I also don't like how Krone is portrayed as a comic relief edgelord which completely ruins her character. For the most part the way she acted in this episode specifically was the way she behaved in the according chapters. The only big change they did on her behavior was only in episode 3 in that original scene with the fake doll. |
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uninstallthegame said: a part of me still can't figure out what is all the fuss about this show. just from these 4 episodes alone i don't feel like the show deserves all the praise. i mean, it's atmospheric but that's pretty much it for me. even prison break had more to offer, introducing new characters and plot twist. yet this one is just some one-sided attempts to escape with even Mama knowing about it... also, a major factor i can't digest this properly is the fact that 11 year olds are acting like genius tacticians, where did all get that experience come from in the first place, being held in a isolated orphanage... Devansh1011 said: Well, I watch 3 episodes, I think to read manga alongside, I couldn't control, I finish manga in 2 days, I fall in love with vs with the series. Now I patiently wait for the episode, I'm not happy, not at all. First 3 episodes were really well executed as far as I can see. But this one, they just wrecked it. There were so many moments missed, but specifically something that they absolutely did wrong was the scene of telling Don and Guilda, Emma persuaded them to help, nope Emma would never lie to them directly, she isn't a character like that, in the manga Don is furious regarding conny and he says let's go and save her. This adds a lot to the character of Don and Emma. But in anime, they just, what should i say, I'm not a critique but when you see something great, something you're emotionally in touch with getting messed up really hurts, let's just hope that they don't continue this. HereticHunter said: FuMomo-kun said: Why does no one hear Krone screaming and thumping? They're in a wooden house, so they should be able to hear a loud sound from anywhere in the house. Especially at night. According to MAL's genres, this is supposed to be horror, but nothing so far has been scary. It is enjoyable, but it doesn't create a sense of threat. I guess it is probably because I don't care what happens to most of these characters. Well, this is just the fourth episode. We have more time to like these characters! Because it was supposed to be inner monologues. It's one of the reasons why this anime fails as an adaptation. I also don't like how Krone is portrayed as a comic relief edgelord which completely ruins her character. In the manga you could grieve more about the characters as their situation was way more hopeless than how it looks here. Their inner monologues added that feeling of danger and Krone was a character that added that feeling without relying on being a comic relief edgelord. Ah, but other people says that these "little details" doesn't affect the story... smh. I would suggest you to read the manga as it looks the anime is more likely to ruin the experience @uninstallthegame this is exactly why. The anime is not adapting the manga properly. the hype is all from manga readers whose expectations were not met by this unfaithful adaptation. I recommend u go read the manga. also they act like genius tacticians because they are geniuses |
| Great episode. I loved this part in the manga and the anime did it justice, I remember going 'wait what?' when I read this for the first time. Norman with the power plays. xD OST was pretty top notch this episode. |
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| Norman realy knows everyone's personality as it was mentioned in the first episode, this episode shows it with the Ray trapping situation. |
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| Ray gave himself away when answering a question of why would someone want to be a spy. The confidence of conclusion about "guaranteed life" shows Ray is too aware of the benefits of being a spy, is working towards it. |
| damn i got baited hard at the end not only was the Gilda scene cut in a way to make it seem like looked like she went to mom then talked Krone we as the viewers only saw Norman tell Ray that he was gonna tell Don it would be under the bed but our boi here was playing 3D chess might as well test if you're closest ally is trust worthy while you're planning all of this. but im starting to feel like i should just read the manga lately being seeing how much has been cut out of the inner thoughts of the characters which seems super important for this kind of show |
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| This time the kids continue their escape training while focusing on dodging both Mama and Krone as well as finding out who the snitch is. Krone’s facial expressions really get me lol. She’s quite an eccentric character. I wonder why she wants to be a mother for so badly? I think Mama better watch out. Also, that poor doll:/ I really thought the traitor would’ve have been Gilda but maybe not. Interestingly enough, Norman now suspects Ray. I wonder how this will play out? |
aa_bumi said: It's been a long time since i saw such a naive person. I hope Emma would learn a hard lesson in further episode. Even if they found the spy, what can they do about it? They still would train together, learn the escape pattern together. If they leave him it would make their plain more suspicious Theres a lot of things u can do. Like feeding them false information to misguide them and mom. Emma may be naive but she has the skills to back up her words. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
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Amyyw said: HereticHunter said: I also don't like how Krone is portrayed as a comic relief edgelord which completely ruins her character. For the most part the way she acted in this episode specifically was the way she behaved in the according chapters. The only big change they did on her behavior was only in episode 3 in that original scene with the fake doll. Yeah, but the ost doesn't fit the mood (and even worse, she speaking aloud ahaha) |
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