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Dec 9, 2018 8:21 AM
#51
Hirugiko said: sarnlack said: The traitor already determinded from the opening song lol just wild guess but there's possibility :D Im dumb, pls explain :vvvv her socks, lol XDXD |
Dec 9, 2018 8:23 AM
#52
sarnlack said: Hirugiko said: sarnlack said: The traitor already determinded from the opening song lol just wild guess but there's possibility :D Im dumb, pls explain :vvvv her socks, lol XDXD LOL wtf ahahaha, thanks, i feel the stupidest i've ever felt now LOL. |
Dec 9, 2018 9:08 AM
#53
Hirugiko said: shiro_kai said: The more they fuck up my CGDCT spy anime, the low it score gets. Funny. have you seen who is making this "cgdct spy anime" of yours? look the info up before getting hopes up: :V sarnlack said: The traitor already determinded from the opening song lol just wild guess but there's possibility :D Im dumb, pls explain :vvvv Nice to meet dumb, I'm shiro. You're right they did Classroom Crisis, everything is already damned. :( |
Dec 9, 2018 9:26 AM
#54
@shiro_kai I mean him, not necessarily the studio https://myanimelist.net/people/11423/Takahiro |
Dec 9, 2018 10:18 AM
#55
I really hope all of them are still alive and Mei is going to join back later on. But when I see the name of the author, I can't stop thinking about what he did on akame ga kill series. But still, hope everything turns out to be positive. |
Dec 9, 2018 10:57 AM
#56
Hirugiko said: @shiro_kai I mean him, not necessarily the studio https://myanimelist.net/people/11423/Takahiro Would you mean Akame and Yuuki Yuusha then? None of them have drugged and forced into sex slave girls as part of the plot. I see something like that as part of the plot as something a little more surprising, especialy when you are expecting cgdct. |
Dec 9, 2018 2:25 PM
#57
Honestly I don't care how this continues no matter what I HATE Mei's guts and hope she gets killed. I hope they don't do a continuation of the Goblin Slayer drama and make this series edgy all of a sudden. Plz plz no. Don't do it. I liked this series |
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Dec 9, 2018 2:35 PM
#58
So Mei was the traitor after all huh? While things have certainly gotten serious now I'm still holding on to my theory that there never was a traitor in the first place. To explain, there are numerous reasons. 1. Mei's reasons for her betrayal may seem weak but then again it's not uncommon for someone to switch sides when they've become dissatisfied with the group or organization they're originally working with when they want something more and to Mouryo that's more than enough reason. 2. Seeing that we didn't see Katrina, Bakkyo, and Hatsume actually die there's a good possibility they're still alive. Yuki may be in bad shape but she could have very likely overdosed on spyce to increase her chances of surviving that fatal blow. 3. If Mei is working as a double agent then this means the masters planned this entire thing without informing their apprentices about it and to make it convincing Yuki and Hatsume had to stage their apparent deaths with Mei playing the traitor to a tee. 4. Finally, why would Mei wait until now to send the entire information about the team when she's been with them for so long? And she sent it through her phone, not by some hidden computer. If she could have sent it that easily why didn't she do it sooner? If I'm Mouryo I want to finish my enemies as quickly as possible by whatever means necessary no matter how immoral they are. If Mei really is a traitor why would she wait this long to betray her team? So, assuming that my theory is correct it's going to be really interesting how the climax of this anime is going to go. If it ends with all of them surviving and clearing up all the misunderstandings I'm sure there's going to a lot of drama followed by some comedy of the apprentices getting revenge on their masters for what they put them through because they're not going to be happy with them when this is all over. |
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Dec 9, 2018 3:19 PM
#59
Wait what happened I was not prepared for this That was brutal and awesome This and episode 9 are great parallelisms I'm glad i've been defending this show from the first episode but i have 2 complaints 1.You have an interesting setup, do not fuck it up with some Mei double turn, it wouldn't make sense 2.Please make someone die :we know Hatsume isn't dead and i suppose Yuki isn't too, but at least let Katrina stay dead, add some tension to this story, you're doing well |
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Dec 9, 2018 3:53 PM
#60
DirectorK said: 4. Finally, why would Mei wait until now to send the entire information about the team when she's been with them for so long? And she sent it through her phone, not by some hidden computer. If she could have sent it that easily why didn't she do it sooner? If I'm Mouryo I want to finish my enemies as quickly as possible by whatever means necessary no matter how immoral they are. If Mei really is a traitor why would she wait this long to betray her team? Well, she said it in the episode, she waited to send the complete info when the price was higher. However, I still think that the whole plot is set up between all the masters but who knows maybe Mei betrayed them. In that case, the betrayal reasons are a joke, to be honest. |
Dec 9, 2018 4:37 PM
#61
Pipe said: DirectorK said: 4. Finally, why would Mei wait until now to send the entire information about the team when she's been with them for so long? And she sent it through her phone, not by some hidden computer. If she could have sent it that easily why didn't she do it sooner? If I'm Mouryo I want to finish my enemies as quickly as possible by whatever means necessary no matter how immoral they are. If Mei really is a traitor why would she wait this long to betray her team? Well, she said it in the episode, she waited to send the complete info when the price was higher. However, I still think that the whole plot is set up between all the masters but who knows maybe Mei betrayed them. In that case, the betrayal reasons are a joke, to be honest. I actually forgot about that part but then again that could have been part of the plan so that it wouldn't get Moryo suspicious if she was acting as a double agent. |
"You talk too much. Think too much." "I don't care how justified you think your reasons are. I won't tolerate liars or thieves." "If you're not going to be nice to me, don't expect me to be nice to you." "I'm a soldier, not a superhero. Don't ever think of me as one." "The world doesn't revolve around you. Get that through your thick skull." "People who live by their emotions go nowhere in their lives. They only find misery. "If you don't like the way your life is than do something about it instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself." "You want something go get it. Period." |
Dec 9, 2018 7:03 PM
#62
I was shocked with the outcome of this episode. The first half was quite calm, apprentice and mentor sharing calm and moving moments before the great mission. Apparently Momo is already being recognized as a good spy and is already told that she should look for an apprentice. The mission starts and they easily capture Tendo, but personally something felt strange in the group, after Mei mentions that Tsukikage is a fair organization, Tendo releases the classic evil smile that says everything is ready for disaster. The girls fall into a trap and lose Byakko and Katrina in a explotion and they are cornered by Theresia. It was hard to know that Mei was the traitor, her answer to why she did it was very simple, Fu's face with her heart broken by the betrayal of her mentor was sad. Obviously Tendo would use cowardly tactics to win, since Mei did the dirty work of eliminating the rest of her partners, she went after Momo and used her to finally eliminate Yuuki. I doubt that Mei is a double agent, since she drank Moryo's gelatin without hesitation, but I do think that the girls knew that Mei was the traitor and they cheated on her so they could infiltrate the Moryo base. The next episode will be somewhat uncomfortable to see until we know if Mei really is a double agent and let us know if Katrina, Byakko, Hatsume and Yuuki are alive. |
Dec 9, 2018 7:15 PM
#63
A lot happened in this episode, holy... From the get go i suspected of Mei, Hatsume and Goe, but after their "arcs" it went down to Mei and Goe (yes I know the last one was not really that "traitor-y"). Mei as always trying to live her life more than anything else. Still 2 episodes to go, Mei on it's "traitor" suit, and a Momo with low reasurance. Pls let Momo kill Tendo. |
Dec 9, 2018 7:46 PM
#64
Lairucrem said: Damn, nobody could've seen that coming without random guessing, this author is good apep23 said: franzjpm said: MomoSinX said: Didn't see that coming from Mei (but maybe she really is playing double agent here). Theresia will probably switch sides in the last moment. Yuki might just come back with good chances, her mentor got the same cut but she also blew herself up on top of it. Hatsume is probably fine. and that Double dose of spyce would probably have boosted her body's regeneration rate therefore evading death. hatsume probably just escaped, and mei probably was just acting, despite having consumed the jelly from moryo hatsume probably took measures that prevent it from activating even if all the tsukikage girls were exposed to such, because she was in fact able to disable it before on her friend right. Yukki and hatsume will probably come busting down moryo's doors and break in while the kouhai are released and helped by none other than mei. because this was what the senpais planned all along, but they didn't tell the kouhai in order for moryo to drop their guard while the kouhai are inside moryo they disable the bigass flower thing that will be used to spray the drug on the city My man's already telling my point there! My kind of guy! I hope that theory is wrong, I want this to be dark, heck it's building up to be dark hence if it's like a double agent thing everyone's happy, all's well that ends well, eh that's just meh, it'll ruin the projected writing and I think Mei's personality justifies the betrayal, she's that unique and interesting Mei dying at the end would be sweet, if Tsukikage kills Mei, this is 10/10 Tbf, this is good ending lol. for the show. But it's not a good for audiences that thinking too much on their relationship throughout this series and the fact that they didn't delete Mei's presence from the ending imo (because when someone is changing side in any series they often change the opening or ending visuals, just like darling in the franxx back in march). |
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Dec 9, 2018 8:47 PM
#65
Did anyone else notice that Mei drank a red gelatin? That's the one the blows you up. The green version erases memories. |
Dec 9, 2018 11:37 PM
#66
Didn't see that coming all the time it was Mei who is my favorite character in this series. But, I'm confident she is plotting into something in favor of Tsukikage. I can't recall perfectly but there was something that they didn't disclosed to their apprentices. Plus on the scene where Fuu and Mei were having conversation in their home I felt in Mei's eyes (The act she'll do might hurt her apprentice Fuu) and stared again outside. Still, I feel bad for Fuu |
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Dec 10, 2018 1:25 AM
#67
Well... Shit. This is probably the best episode of this entire show. Finally felt like things were actually going somewhere. Also, the people who think that some of these characters that CLEARLY looked like they died in this episode are actually alive, remember Takahiro wrote this. They are very much dead. |
Dec 10, 2018 2:16 AM
#68
Immovable_Object said: Well... Shit. This is probably the best episode of this entire show. Finally felt like things were actually going somewhere. Also, the people who think that some of these characters that CLEARLY looked like they died in this episode are actually alive, remember Takahiro wrote this. They are very much dead. Yeah, I'll remember his work with Yuuki Yuuna, not Akame ga Kill. |
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Dec 10, 2018 3:18 AM
#69
learn that it's Mei the double agent it's a shock especially that it was said that the treaty was Hatsume |
Dec 10, 2018 12:35 PM
#70
shiro_kai said: Hirugiko said: @shiro_kai I mean him, not necessarily the studio https://myanimelist.net/people/11423/Takahiro Would you mean Akame and Yuuki Yuusha then? None of them have drugged and forced into sex slave girls as part of the plot. I see something like that as part of the plot as something a little more surprising, especialy when you are expecting cgdct. AgK had widow and her daugher raped and murdered by clown. |
Dec 10, 2018 1:07 PM
#71
Luthandorius said: My guess is Moryo are blackmailing her and keeping her master as hostage. (The other 2 current senior members had a master that got shown/screen time and the one of Mei only had been mentioned but Yuki didn't tell how she died/disappeared.) Didn't Yuki say last episode that Mei's mentor retired early due to injury because of Moryo or something |
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Dec 10, 2018 1:14 PM
#72
bastek66 said: shiro_kai said: Hirugiko said: @shiro_kai I mean him, not necessarily the studio https://myanimelist.net/people/11423/Takahiro Would you mean Akame and Yuuki Yuusha then? None of them have drugged and forced into sex slave girls as part of the plot. I see something like that as part of the plot as something a little more surprising, especialy when you are expecting cgdct. AgK had widow and her daugher raped and murdered by clown. I don't remember if they made that part into the anime, but, anyway, it would be exactly what its audience wanted. |
Dec 10, 2018 2:28 PM
#73
shiro_kai said: bastek66 said: shiro_kai said: Hirugiko said: @shiro_kai I mean him, not necessarily the studio https://myanimelist.net/people/11423/Takahiro Would you mean Akame and Yuuki Yuusha then? None of them have drugged and forced into sex slave girls as part of the plot. I see something like that as part of the plot as something a little more surprising, especialy when you are expecting cgdct. AgK had widow and her daugher raped and murdered by clown. I don't remember if they made that part into the anime, but, anyway, it would be exactly what its audience wanted. Manga, Bols' family. |
Dec 10, 2018 3:08 PM
#74
bastek66 said: shiro_kai said: bastek66 said: shiro_kai said: Hirugiko said: @shiro_kai I mean him, not necessarily the studio https://myanimelist.net/people/11423/Takahiro Would you mean Akame and Yuuki Yuusha then? None of them have drugged and forced into sex slave girls as part of the plot. I see something like that as part of the plot as something a little more surprising, especialy when you are expecting cgdct. AgK had widow and her daugher raped and murdered by clown. I don't remember if they made that part into the anime, but, anyway, it would be exactly what its audience wanted. Manga, Bols' family. Just looked the wiki: "Anime and Manga Differences: In the anime, the two survived and were shown helping distribute food between the Capital's citizens after the revolution. " See, not even the anime about death and unscrupulous acts had the courage to go that route. |
Dec 10, 2018 3:37 PM
#75
I see why everyone would think Mai is a double agent. Actually it's more like people want her to be a double agent. I don't think that's the case. I believe she's a true traitor and we're going to have to endure through some rough scenes before this is all said and done. |
Dec 10, 2018 9:37 PM
#76
Dec 10, 2018 10:30 PM
#78
I had been watching this anime distracted (never watched the new weekly episode the day it was released and even let pass more than two of them a couple of times) and just kept going with it because I wanted to know who the traitor was. The traitor thing seemed to have been somewhat left behind the last two episodes if I'm not wrong, so I just watched this one without thinking too much if the reveal was going to be given in it. Mei being the traitor hit me by surprise. Of course, now that it has been given, you can go, make some observations in previous episodes, give it some thought, and it does make sense. But I think it was made in a subtle way (the majority of people here and in reddit being surprised is a good sign) and this episode in particular has like tripled the little interest I had in the anime. It's the first time I'm really hoping to watch the next episode as soon as possible. This guy in made this brief but good analysis regarding Mei potentially being the traitor after only two episodes had aired: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/9nw4bj/release_the_spyce_episode_2_discussion/e7pq3si/ Oh, and I think (or rather, I have faith in) that the "liking the chaos in the city" reason for her betrayal is actually a pretext. I hope it actually has to do with something along Mei's motivation for getting money (hopefully it isn't that she likes to waste it on whatever just because) or that the writer has some other plot twist for the remaining episodes. If this turned out to be actually dark with a good reason it'd be nice. Until now I regarded this as an average anime with likeable character art, but if they manage to close it well after this turn of events, I'll consider giving it a rewatch in order to pay more attention to stuff and hints that could have been considered trivial or just episodic on the surface. |
Dec 10, 2018 11:20 PM
#79
momo licked mei before right? she could have detected any lies in the beginning of the series, just saying :D |
Dec 11, 2018 12:52 AM
#80
koja6049 said: momo licked mei before right? she could have detected any lies in the beginning of the series, just saying :D - Mei licked by Momo before the Betrayal rumors spread - This episode so fucked up - I already know what will happen on the next episode.... |
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Dec 11, 2018 6:46 AM
#81
shiro_kai said: See, not even the anime about death and unscrupulous acts had the courage to go that route. Takahiro only did it to wrap up story in anime. If he had more episodes they would be dead. |
Dec 11, 2018 4:31 PM
#82
sarnlack said: Hirugiko said: sarnlack said: The traitor already determinded from the opening song lol just wild guess but there's possibility :D Im dumb, pls explain :vvvv her socks, lol XDXD Well that and the posture in like the second episode when she dropped the note... But on another subject, who is using Fennel as a Spyce? And since when is fennel a spice? I mean you could use it as a spice, just like every other thing with a scent to it, but for me fennel is either a side dish or tea. It's like one of them is using salt (which would've been a good trait for the main villain)... |
Dec 11, 2018 4:36 PM
#83
Tsunshine-Chris said: I see why everyone would think Mai is a double agent. Actually it's more like people want her to be a double agent. I don't think that's the case. I believe she's a true traitor and we're going to have to endure through some rough scenes before this is all said and done. Nah, this anime is greatest in the production value, but the story is somehow predictable and down to earth. Besides a double crossing double crosser is more in western animation than true anime. I guess there will be some reason and reasoning behind it all and there will be some tears over regret in the end. But still entertaining to watch and more deserving of a solid 7 rating, tho... |
Dec 11, 2018 5:04 PM
#84
DonTrumpolino said: Tsunshine-Chris said: I see why everyone would think Mai is a double agent. Actually it's more like people want her to be a double agent. I don't think that's the case. I believe she's a true traitor and we're going to have to endure through some rough scenes before this is all said and done. Nah, this anime is greatest in the production value, but the story is somehow predictable and down to earth. Besides a double crossing double crosser is more in western animation than true anime. I guess there will be some reason and reasoning behind it all and there will be some tears over regret in the end. But still entertaining to watch and more deserving of a solid 7 rating, tho... Normally I'd agree. Except... The masters were keeping something secret from the students. If memory serves it was a secret member no one knew about. My money is on Momo's school friend saving her. Second, Mei drank the red gelatin. Red turns you into a living bomb. Green alters your memory. Mei is already dead. |
Tsunshine-ChrisDec 11, 2018 8:25 PM
Dec 11, 2018 7:25 PM
#85
well this is moe-spy anime off course any traitor around them i bet their friend from Okinawa will rescue our moe spy group Ouka is only thing what Mei didnt know Katarina will be back to action Hatsume still alive and Byakko will help them too and i bet theresia also join them to |
Dec 11, 2018 8:03 PM
#86
That was a great cliffhanger, I hop they teach Mei a lesson later on. Great episode. |
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Dec 11, 2018 9:00 PM
#87
Tsunshine-Chris said: The masters were keeping something secret from the students. If memory serves it was a secret member no one knew about. My money is on Momo's school friend saving her. Second, Mei drank the red gelatin. Red turns you into a living bomb. Green alters your memory. Mei is already dead. Except Hatsume was able to remove the effects of the gelatin from Theresia after she was captured at the beginning of episode 8. With that knowledge I wouldn't put it past the masters to see if they had developed a way to at least nullify the effects of the gelatin, otherwise Mei wouldn't have drank that gelatin as easily as she did. |
"You talk too much. Think too much." "I don't care how justified you think your reasons are. I won't tolerate liars or thieves." "If you're not going to be nice to me, don't expect me to be nice to you." "I'm a soldier, not a superhero. Don't ever think of me as one." "The world doesn't revolve around you. Get that through your thick skull." "People who live by their emotions go nowhere in their lives. They only find misery. "If you don't like the way your life is than do something about it instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself." "You want something go get it. Period." |
Dec 11, 2018 10:04 PM
#88
Agree to disagree. Either way, we'll find out Saturday. |
Dec 12, 2018 12:42 AM
#89
DAMN! That was heart breaking! and shocking! Mei was the...y'know GRRR! i wonder how everything this would play-out!?!? 5/5! |
Dec 12, 2018 9:26 AM
#90
So Katrina is american, but either ages like a japanese woman or the american agencies allow child labour now... But one very important question surged up to me: When they use their spices in food and ingest it won't this also trigger their fury or even dull the entire effect over time faster? But seeing this episode in it's entirety and the two episodes ahead I think that Mei will double cross Moryo, or else I wouldn't know why she so nonchalantly had that last line after the ending. And besides it makes no sense for the heroines to be defeated two epsiodes before final. Like the sword used fake blood or didn't cut too deep or there being another element of surprise in for Moryo After all Mie did know what that gelatin would do to her, so I bet at some point in the next episode Momo will like come to her senses and it was all a ruse by Yukki and everyone's well or something. |
Dec 12, 2018 1:35 PM
#91
Cmon, we all know these "plot-twists" will end up being completely worthless in the grand scheme of things. Everything is just a part of the plan and everyone will be saved in the end (maybe Yuki will die at the end because feels). I'd say that the odds are around 90/10 in favor of the "it was all a plan" continuation. |
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Dec 12, 2018 5:15 PM
#92
well yeah, i dont think this show gonna going dark, in the end it's all planned, either Mei already known as a traitor and the girls try to lure her out, or Mei just playing their plan as a traitor to lure moryo out. |
Dec 14, 2018 11:49 AM
#93
I Think we can all agree on 2 things 1.This is the most talked episode about this show 2.Even if everything turns out to be a plan by Tsukikage, this episode Made us talk, Made us interested and Made us impatient for the next one |
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Dec 14, 2018 4:27 PM
#94
This is true. No matter what happens, I feel very satisfied by this show. SATURDAY HURRY UP! EDIT: HiDive updated their episode summery and title ahead of tomorrows episode. The episode is titled Operation Gekkako and well... It looks as though this might be a hard episode to watch, at least the first half. |
Tsunshine-ChrisDec 14, 2018 5:50 PM
Dec 17, 2018 7:05 PM
#95
Dec 21, 2018 8:23 AM
#96
drop my rating by 1, the setup and execution not natural |
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Dec 23, 2018 8:13 AM
#97
bondtux said: koja6049 said: momo licked mei before right? she could have detected any lies in the beginning of the series, just saying :D - Mei licked by Momo before the Betrayal rumors spread - This episode so fucked up - I already know what will happen on the next episode.... looks like my prediction was vindicated :) |
Dec 23, 2018 10:16 AM
#98
Jan 3, 2019 6:15 AM
#99
I already had a bad feeling things would turn out bad after showing both mentor and apprentice enjoying their time together. |
Jan 16, 2019 9:42 PM
#100
That outcome surely was unexpected, but very entertaining to watch, being honest. Uhm, maybe I missed some hints but Mei being the traitor fells completely out of the blue... not to mention that her reasons are quite weak. So yeah, I guess I'll go for the "double agent" option here. But in the case she isn't a double agent and it's true that she only wants to see the world burn, I still don't believe the idea of her being completely on Moryo's side... you know what they say, who betrays once, betrays again... Overall, pretty enjoyable episode. I think Yuki is not dead yet but I wonder how they will explain how she survived from nearly being cut in two. The same for Hatsume. P.S.: Maybe I missed how she was defeated but for someone who can handle a whole criminal organization by her own, I was expecting something more from Goe. |
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