Why Goblin Slayer has such low rating and why is it considered so dark?

DumpsterKing said:


Have you never scene like pretty much any good shows, like at all? Any good show will establish a good personality within 1st ep.

Goblin Slayer isn't good. It's just to your tastes.

incisorr said:
the anime is already packed with stuff, what "personality" do you want in an anime that's combat focused that hasnt even fully aired ? if they focused on personality there'd be no action.

So far goblin slayer has been the best anime of the last 2 seasons and i hope it keeps it up till the end

people's "arguments" against it are just bad

DatRandomDude said:
7.62 is not low jesus christ...

oh wait, i forgot that its MAL where a 8/10 is just ok

swirlydragon said:
GS is such a badass character and this anime has so much potential. Why do you guys think people hate this anime?
Furthermore, I believe this anime ain't so dark and cruel as people claim it to be. Especially if you've read manga like Akame ga Kill which are way more dark than GS.

incisorr said:


my tastes? are you kidding me? my taste is romance, shoujo, comedy - how the hell did you figure out goblin slayer is my tastes

and they did establish good personality within ep 1

he hates goblins and he's traumatized cus they killed someone he loves and his entire life revolves around killing goblins. Your argument is just a joke. Even the other characters within the world itself find his personality basic and simple because THAT WAS INTENDED BECAUSE THAT'S HIS PERSONALITY. You think he lacks personality? maybe pay attention to the anime and see that the characters within the anime also think the same - it's not "unrealistic"or uncommon and is pretty reasonable

he doesn't have an opinion on every 2nd stupid issue in life WOW HE MUST LACK PERSONALITY. That's so dumb. I actually **know** people who are like this, who are super focused on 1 thing and obviously irl is way more indepth than a ((less than half of an anime aired))

the manga looks better? ok cool, doesn't matter cus we're judging - talking about - rating the anime. That's like tasting a banana and loving it but then saying "but chocolate strawberry milkshake is better" even tho its completely irrelevant and not even remotely the same thing

they've cut out character development? how would you know? it's not even fully aired. maybe they just moved it somewhere else


lol at complaining about "no personality" or "not like humans" when they literally were afraid as hell in the first ep from the goblin and showed emotion and the priest peed herself which is way more than every other anime that comes to mind. Take some other random isekai? they face all sorts of shit with no fear whatsoever, no fucks given nothing = so immersive


so far i haven't seen a **single argument** why goblin slayer is bad

everything people say is either complete or blatant lie/bullshit or just subjective and again - stupid

edit: also all the rape outrage is just insane. It's implied rape scene - ITS NEVER SHOWN
why does nobody freak out when the kazuma guy got decapitated in konosuba? it's not shown but they talked about it and they even described it (unlike the "rape scene" in goblin slayer) and it's much worse

i'll tell you why - cus ppl are clowns with low iq and that's why in any competition, - ever - the top is always a few elites and everyone else is below - cus theyre unintelligent and have bad understanding of the world

incisorr said:
so far i haven't seen a **single argument** why goblin slayer is bad

jimmmaker said:
Its seems you have missed the point.Every single character/worldbuilding part about it is the most generic you could possible be.AND THATS THE FREAKING POINT.Its supposed to be a dark deconstruction of the DnD archetype.Thats what makes Gs good.The story doesnt focus on the grandiose adventurers that fight mythical monsters wearing platinum armour.It focuses on a retarted crusader that has swore to annihilate all generic trash mobs.I understand not liking the generic aspects of it and blaming the romance elements because frankly they are the weakest aspects of it.However Gs is easily one of the best Dark fantasy/medieval anime manga right now,along with claymore vinland saga and berserk standing at the top.Plus the series knows that it lacks depth.Everyone knows that.Look at doom, a generic fps that barely has a story, yet millions of people love.Something not being complex does not mean that is less enjoyable.Also i dont mean to insult anyone that doesnt like it,everyone has their own tastes after all.But calling this series bad because its "disgusting" or "pathetic" is fucking retarted.

Andy_Roo_45 said:
It's kinda boring imo to be honest. I've found it really average. Not enough action and the characters aren't anything to write home about. I think the whole controversy in the first episode (which was an over-reaction I feel for alot of people) has really damaged it, as it seemed to set a precedent then kind of never really followed up on it... if you like it that's cool, that's what anime is all about, have fun!

QWERTYFish25 said:


Think the rape me me feel how cheap the show is. It substituted any real urgency with a doujun plot. Blood doesn't mean dar and dark doesn't mean good. I'm mainly offended by this assumption that writing akin to a 14 year would grab me. There's nothing past the shock value. Especially the anime which is only 1 cour.

UTJeff316 said:


It doesn't mean cheap or bad either. Seems like there's a lot past the shock value.

Andy_Roo_45 said:

So what else is there that's engaging you? There's been a few talky episodes, a few goblin raids bu I just don't feel there's much to it... genuinely curious, not arguing :)

UTJeff316 said:


Goblin Slayer facing an Ogre and using a pretty epic strategy to beat it and then basically telling it to GG before he sliced its face open.

Goblin Slayer forming a bond and companionship with the Priestess and his party members I find very engaging. All the party members are very unique and distinct and have likable personalities. They are building a nice sense of camaraderie together.

Priestess is also growing as an adventurer. She's already been promoted to Obsidian.

Throughout all of Naruto, Naruto was never even promoted, which quite frankly, was rat trash. Would've been nice to see Naruto get some type of promotion at some point over the course of the story. Instead, he was a genin throughout the entire story. I never liked that.

UTJeff316 said:


Goblin Slayer facing an Ogre and using a pretty epic strategy to beat it and then basically telling it to GG before he sliced its face open.

Goblin Slayer forming a bond and companionship with the Priestess and his party members I find very engaging. All the party members are very unique and distinct and have likable personalities. They are building a nice sense of camaraderie together.

Priestess is also growing as an adventurer. She's already been promoted to Obsidian.

Throughout all of Naruto, Naruto was never even promoted, which quite frankly, was rat trash. Would've been nice to see Naruto get some type of promotion at some point over the course of the story. Instead, he was a genin throughout the entire story. I never liked that.

QWERTYFish25 said:
It just seems very thinly veiled, all of it. The dialogue is painfully familiar and GS'stoicism is in mo way entertaining. We get it. He's like that because of serious trauma and that led to his obsession with goblins, the end. There's nothing really holding this group together other than the fact they're adventurers and they had quests that involved goblins and therefore interested goblin slayer. Priestess is an adventurer because she's an adventurer. She hangs with gs because he saved her and he's the only one who will tolerate her. Not saying she's any worse than other beginners, but eh, it all feels phoned in.

QWERTYFish25 said:
It just seems very thinly veiled, all of it. The dialogue is painfully familiar and GS'stoicism is in mo way entertaining. We get it. He's like that because of serious trauma and that led to his obsession with goblins, the end. There's nothing really holding this group together other than the fact they're adventurers and they had quests that involved goblins and therefore interested goblin slayer. Priestess is an adventurer because she's an adventurer. She hangs with gs because he saved her and he's the only one who will tolerate her. Not saying she's any worse than other beginners, but eh, it all feels phoned in.

UTJeff316 said:


Two rookies wanted to form a party with her in the third episode. So Goblin Slayer is hardly the only one who would tolerate her.

Helios92 said:
I'm actually one of the people who likes this anime not cusi it's edgy, but the MC is gray moral.

QWERTYFish25 said:
I wouldn't say he is morally gray. He, like everyone else in this world, pretty much sees goblins like how we see rats or poisonous insects. Ehich doesn't really constitute their extermination as immoral. They haven't been humanized (like dragons from "How to Train your Dragon"). He'll save someone but if they're beyond hope he will end their pain, which in the old days was acceptable for those beyond help. He does have a somewhat unhealthy fixation on goblins but beyond that he seems like an average, competant (sp?), stoic character. Which I guess is better than a bubbly jesus-kun.

TheArgonaut88 said:


yep, i dont see what is grey about him. And hat reminds me oher criiticism i have, the thing about goblin chiildren in ep 1, i yet have to see the point of that scene .

People see more in this series that what actually is

TheArgonaut88 said:


yep, i dont see what is grey about him. And hat reminds me oher criiticism i have, the thing about goblin chiildren in ep 1, i yet have to see the point of that scene .

People see more in this series that what actually is

QWERTYFish25 said:


This. Happens with a lot of LN, people absolutely nut when they realize a line of dialogue from the source was used, despite its uselessness.

As far as the Gob kids I guess it was to sell the whole grittiness of the show, kinda hard to see it as gritty given the rape scene that took place 5 minutes before, not to mention the bubbly cheerful looking cast and campy episodes that outnumber ones like this week's.

QWERTYFish25 said:


This. Happens with a lot of LN, people absolutely nut when they realize a line of dialogue from the source was used, despite its uselessness.

As far as the Gob kids I guess it was to sell the whole grittiness of the show, kinda hard to see it as gritty given the rape scene that took place 5 minutes before, not to mention the bubbly cheerful looking cast and campy episodes that outnumber ones like this week's.

IRFodder said:
How to judge if a Dark/horror novel/show is doing something right?

By looking at the amount of upset, offended and silly complaints against the show.

If you are not upsetting someone and getting a negative reaction you arn't doing it right.

Word of the day; interpersonal. And where it says relations it doesn't mean sexual (well it does but you get my point), get your heads out of the gutter.

Just go back to the pg13 shows ffs, you can giggle all you want at a side boob back there.

Swear to god I feel like a genius everytime I use the internet, I have to slap myself in the face to wake up.

Also I don't remember anyone saying this show was going to spectacular or that it was going to win any medals, 12 episodes and small budget from an industry that puts out quantity over quality is all you have to look at.

It is competent though and deserves every point it gets in ranking.

I still remember the PC bastards going after television in the late 90's because "too much sex in shows". bleh, I spit on you. Hello GoT the best show this decade.

So.. what I am saying is.. let the show fucking exist, and I will be voting it one higher than I would because I know haters will be voting it 1 star and spouting nonsense like "GS is unrealistic, but beserk does it better" and "it has no story" it's not the shows fault if you can't tie your own shoe laces, it's there, if you pay attention.

End disgruntled rant.

I personaly think it should rest at 7-7.5.

YokaSol said:
IMO the series is just "meh". Not really great nor bad. I gave it a couple of episodes to see where it would go, but the story is kinda of lacking in depth. The setting is pretty standard. Just imagine a dark version of Konosuba and you pretty much have the exact same setting. Adventures go to guild, get quest, go out and finish quest, there's some demon king, etc. The only difference is Konosuba was a comedy making fun of the tropes and this is gritty action. Though even when it comes to the action it is still pretty average.

Which BTW the controversy was overblown. I never get why it's ok to have anime where people are murdered in horrible ways, but rape is the taboo.

It's just doesn't really stand out in any real way.

I'll probably finish it out just to have something to watch during the week, but I won't be calling it a great show.

incisorr said:


you rated konosuba with 9 and goblin slayer with 6 lmao

konosuba is a comedy and it's not even that funny. It was mediocre at best. People that think konosuba are funny are people that haven't seen actual real comedy. Konosuba's "plot "is a joke, the humor isn't that good, the only good characters are aqua and megumin and nothing else

meanwhile goblin slayer

> Goblin Slayer - the guy is a fucking alpha Chad dream guy. Stoic, hardboiled, badass. Full plate armor MONSTER with GLOWING RED EYE. YOU DON'T GET ANY COOLER THAN THAT.
> priest (ONNA-PYON) - i personally don't like her despite her being blonde with blue eyes which is my fav type but shes ROOTED IN REALITY and is some sweet and innocent girl who must have some incredible motivation to want to become an adventurer and who knows when we find out how EPIC AND DANK it will be and even if she doesn't and just woke up one day and decided to become an adventurer its still something and she can be an inspiration to all cowards who still go and fight on the front lines for the good of everyone
> archer( YOSEI-TAN) - literally one of the best girls the anime industry has produced in the recent -- YEARS --. Elven tsundere that's also old and cute and innocent i can totally relate because i'm like the same, i'm not 2000 years old but im also old and also clueless and innocent just like she is and also a tsundere just like she is. Shes hot and shes skilled at her own thing and the whole concept of archer elf is so incredibly popular in fantasy/games but in anime there's literally zero representation and what better than a flat- chested 10/10 GODDESS
> the other 2 dudes

i mean, having unreal male:female ratio (like 1;5) is dumb and makes anime unfun but if you add 2 random ass dudes like these people it suddenly balances things out, plus im sure they're great. The lizard has so much character, he likes fucking cheese how rad is that?


i'm a hardcore TACTICAL RPG player and i've played every single turn based rpg i could find on MAX DIFFICULTY with IRON MAN MODE because i enjoy it and because i find it fun (some examples would be divinity original sin, xcom, pillars of eternity, blackguards, some random stuff shinobi tactics or w/e altho that wasnt exactly an rpg but still fits the bill+-, i dont know but any game like that i've played it)

- playing on max difficulty in a game like this on ironman mode means you're gonna wipe, a lot, wiping means you have to start from the beginning. Making a group is like one of the biggest parts of RPGs', having a cool ass group of adventurers and exploring dungeons and shit with them is cool and while making characters occasionally out of boredom you can just try to insert/imagine what personality they would have to go based on their looks while actually creating them

on top of that i've even played similar RPGs irl

having all this portrayed in an anime is _ __ FLACKING COOL EHRMAHGERD __ all these other weak shit animes like SAO aint got shit, they don't have a party that's more or less portrayed like a game and there's no sense of urgency or doom or anything cus they just have stupid ass plot armor and there's no "darkness "or even violence, there's no party setup and no tank and dps and archer and hybrid fighter/summoner lizard and mage and stuff like this, it doesn't tap into the same feeling
on top of that a fantasy story usually has swords and magic and swords are used to kill things and killing things means there will be death and blood but in other animes they don't emphasize on it at all so it doesn't even look important or grim or anything (look at SAO a bunch of ppl died but no1 cares about their deaths, its just a line and a text and nothing else while in here deaths and stuff have much more impact and u can see it and when they talk about it -it feels more impactful)

blood and death and stuff needs to be shown in animes that are LITERALLY IN A WORLD WHERE THAT'S A DAILY OCCURRENCE but at the same time gore and insides and stuff is disgusting and it's crossing a line like yeah it might be realistic but you're still watching for entertainment - goblin slayer takes the best route at portraying violence as well , it's not overdone but it's not all cute and fluffy

like yeah maybe the lizard and dwarf "lack personalities " a bit but that's only because we didnt have enough time, there's too much shit happening - for merely 7 episodes they had to introduce you to the world and to FIVE major characters on top of setting of the world and some minor characters and also give you some action - there's simply not enough screen time for everything to happen at once. Give it more time and we'll get better. As for the other 3 - sure they have personality, goblin slayer is a stoic badass hardboiled alpha male warrior who at his heart is still a nerd ass kid but is trying hard because he was prolly bullied or some shit look at that flashback and shit, he's basically <self insert male protagonist in a harsh world after x amount of training and experience> nothing overdone but not some beta ass fgt either
priest-chan i explained and elf-chan literally a goddess and a blessing for all anime watchers with her every second on screen it's like life is being given birth and the death's hour is being pushed backwards cus shes that good

literally the ANIME OF THE DECADE


i literally DEMAND that you raise your score, this masterpiece deserves nothing less than 9 or 10



not a goblin slayer spoiler

incisorr said:


you rated konosuba with 9 and goblin slayer with 6 lmao

konosuba is a comedy and it's not even that funny. It was mediocre at best. People that think konosuba are funny are people that haven't seen actual real comedy. Konosuba's "plot "is a joke, the humor isn't that good, the only good characters are aqua and megumin and nothing else

meanwhile goblin slayer

> Goblin Slayer - the guy is a fucking alpha Chad dream guy. Stoic, hardboiled, badass. Full plate armor MONSTER with GLOWING RED EYE. YOU DON'T GET ANY COOLER THAN THAT.
> priest (ONNA-PYON) - i personally don't like her despite her being blonde with blue eyes which is my fav type but shes ROOTED IN REALITY and is some sweet and innocent girl who must have some incredible motivation to want to become an adventurer and who knows when we find out how EPIC AND DANK it will be and even if she doesn't and just woke up one day and decided to become an adventurer its still something and she can be an inspiration to all cowards who still go and fight on the front lines for the good of everyone
> archer( YOSEI-TAN) - literally one of the best girls the anime industry has produced in the recent -- YEARS --. Elven tsundere that's also old and cute and innocent i can totally relate because i'm like the same, i'm not 2000 years old but im also old and also clueless and innocent just like she is and also a tsundere just like she is. Shes hot and shes skilled at her own thing and the whole concept of archer elf is so incredibly popular in fantasy/games but in anime there's literally zero representation and what better than a flat- chested 10/10 GODDESS
> the other 2 dudes

i mean, having unreal male:female ratio (like 1;5) is dumb and makes anime unfun but if you add 2 random ass dudes like these people it suddenly balances things out, plus im sure they're great. The lizard has so much character, he likes fucking cheese how rad is that?


i'm a hardcore TACTICAL RPG player and i've played every single turn based rpg i could find on MAX DIFFICULTY with IRON MAN MODE because i enjoy it and because i find it fun (some examples would be divinity original sin, xcom, pillars of eternity, blackguards, some random stuff shinobi tactics or w/e altho that wasnt exactly an rpg but still fits the bill+-, i dont know but any game like that i've played it)

- playing on max difficulty in a game like this on ironman mode means you're gonna wipe, a lot, wiping means you have to start from the beginning. Making a group is like one of the biggest parts of RPGs', having a cool ass group of adventurers and exploring dungeons and shit with them is cool and while making characters occasionally out of boredom you can just try to insert/imagine what personality they would have to go based on their looks while actually creating them

on top of that i've even played similar RPGs irl

having all this portrayed in an anime is _ __ FLACKING COOL EHRMAHGERD __ all these other weak shit animes like SAO aint got shit, they don't have a party that's more or less portrayed like a game and there's no sense of urgency or doom or anything cus they just have stupid ass plot armor and there's no "darkness "or even violence, there's no party setup and no tank and dps and archer and hybrid fighter/summoner lizard and mage and stuff like this, it doesn't tap into the same feeling
on top of that a fantasy story usually has swords and magic and swords are used to kill things and killing things means there will be death and blood but in other animes they don't emphasize on it at all so it doesn't even look important or grim or anything (look at SAO a bunch of ppl died but no1 cares about their deaths, its just a line and a text and nothing else while in here deaths and stuff have much more impact and u can see it and when they talk about it -it feels more impactful)

blood and death and stuff needs to be shown in animes that are LITERALLY IN A WORLD WHERE THAT'S A DAILY OCCURRENCE but at the same time gore and insides and stuff is disgusting and it's crossing a line like yeah it might be realistic but you're still watching for entertainment - goblin slayer takes the best route at portraying violence as well , it's not overdone but it's not all cute and fluffy

like yeah maybe the lizard and dwarf "lack personalities " a bit but that's only because we didnt have enough time, there's too much shit happening - for merely 7 episodes they had to introduce you to the world and to FIVE major characters on top of setting of the world and some minor characters and also give you some action - there's simply not enough screen time for everything to happen at once. Give it more time and we'll get better. As for the other 3 - sure they have personality, goblin slayer is a stoic badass hardboiled alpha male warrior who at his heart is still a nerd ass kid but is trying hard because he was prolly bullied or some shit look at that flashback and shit, he's basically <self insert male protagonist in a harsh world after x amount of training and experience> nothing overdone but not some beta ass fgt either
priest-chan i explained and elf-chan literally a goddess and a blessing for all anime watchers with her every second on screen it's like life is being given birth and the death's hour is being pushed backwards cus shes that good

literally the ANIME OF THE DECADE


i literally DEMAND that you raise your score, this masterpiece deserves nothing less than 9 or 10



not a goblin slayer spoiler

YokaSol said:


The point in regard to Konosuba was that GS was pretty much the same kind of set up. Just Duba is a comedy and GS is a dark story. Outside of that the two share a ton of elements.

Higurashi is one of my favorite animes and also the Umineko VN.

I like dark stories if they are done right. The problem with GS is the plot and characters are pretty one dimensional at the moment.

Being a badass doesn't make for good story writing by itself. You still need substance.

OG_Gattsu said:
I don’t feel like explaining again, I made a review why I gave it an average score. Check it out if you want to be enlightened:
https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=294280

Unmasked89 said:
This anime is average, is "ok". Nothing more, nothing less.

Point is it got so popular because of rape at first episode. And popularity brings many fan on one hand, and many haters on the other.

This is ALL about this series.

Andy_Roo_45 said:


Some fair points, I have thought the last few episodes have really picked it up. I think I'd be more into it if it had another season coming!
Much like Naruto, when it was dragging, you knew you had plenty more to come with some great action/characters. And yeh, it was lame he didn't get more recognition lol



I feel similar in that it does feel aibt too generic and little lacklustre for a one cour show

hazarddex said:
@swirlydragon

"badass character."

some would say the same about superman, but many find him boring.

1. theirs no threat he will always win he is goblin slayer if he loses hes not goblin slayer anymore. you can make threat without losing/dying, but the series doesn't even do that.
2. his lack of personality makes him unrelatable for many. you could put in any character in the place of him and the plot would progress.


in the words of saitama a well written over powered character. from a series witch is made to basically point out the flaws of having a over powered character.

"having overwhelming power is boring."

also akame ga kill suffered from the repeated kill character effect.

hardly a actually good dark series like berserk, or uld blatt

if your going to kill basically all your case continuously the viewer will loose interest in the show. because oh look they also die and they die that ones also dead who care anymore.


MAL in a nut shell

"How dare you not like what i i like and how dare you like what i don't like."


personally i found goblin slayer boring and repetitive.

its basically

Goblins do something bad goblin slayer kills goblin.

Wooo.

Monchete99 said:

No, that's average. 9.99 is where the just ok begins