Forest of Piano
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Apr 9, 2018 1:25 PM
#51
Mh... this might be the most conflicted I've been over the first episode of an anime yet this season. There were some things I REALLY liked (like the way they made Ajino's version of the song sound obviously off without it being comical or the animation overall (mostly)), but there was also the Character-CGI... the environment-CGI was REALLY good, no doubt, but Kai always went from looking fairly normal to appearing like some weird mutant who's HEARD of human skin but hasn't fully internalized the concept yet. It'll definitely be interesting to see where this series goes in the future... there's potential for everything to fk up terribly, but I usually leave calm and somber series like this feeling rather satisfied, so who knows. |
Apr 9, 2018 1:44 PM
#52
finally we got series which appreciate piano not like shigatsu wa kimi no uso story is good, but THEY ALWAYS INTERUPT sound from piano with NONSENSE monolog |
Apr 9, 2018 1:45 PM
#53
I thought they will skip the childhood part since it is only 12 episodes but i guess not. I don't like the CGI they used when they played the piano :( But still the first episode is not bad. |
Apr 9, 2018 1:47 PM
#54
I feel like they skipped a bit too much of the manga content. Backgrounds were beautiful (at least to my eye), but I don't think the cgi was necessary (piano scenes). About skipping one important part of the manga: Even tho not appropriate to show at TV (?), I think It would have been important part to tell how Kai was harrased by old man and that was the reason he was playing at the forest? It kinda felt like they just went with "Kai is happy" theme, when in reality he was really damn scared of what almost happened and how he was stripped naked.(for example when Ajino took Kai's hand he panicked _a lot_). |
bumondesuApr 9, 2018 1:53 PM
Apr 9, 2018 2:38 PM
#55
Piano no Mori is one of the better manga that i've ever experienced. That being said i've always felt like some parts of it could've benefited from being condensed but 12 episodes is stupidly ridiculous. It was going fairly okay but they jumped the shark especially toward the end of the episode. I can tell this version wouldn't make me care for these characters at all and it would be only something i'd marked completed and forgotten about soon after. Oh well. I'm not all sour grapes because I really appreciate the extra effort that goes into musical series considering they had to hire several pianists to bring this music to life. It's great to be able to listen to the pieces. The actual character art and animation is a bit sloppy and stiff but at least the backgrounds are lovely. For all the ones who mentioned that one other series about music... even in this state, this series is already better than Shigatsu- lest we not repeat its full name. |
standApr 9, 2018 3:35 PM
Apr 9, 2018 2:45 PM
#56
It is really sad and really depressing that the animation is of such a low standard... Maybe they should have left it at just the movie... |
Apr 9, 2018 2:50 PM
#57
Really enjoyed the music used on this anime so far. The animation is not that good but some parts are fine. The forest part during night was amazing. The kid apparently is the chosen one, so im curious how the things will go. |
Apr 9, 2018 3:50 PM
#58
ANIME ACKNOWLEDGES THAT POLAND EXISTS!! |
Apr 9, 2018 4:10 PM
#59
I really really loved this first episode. Great characters and great animation. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest. Unfortunately judging from the number of manga volumes this has, the anime won't be covering very much. I'll probably have to read the manga for this one at some point~ |
Apr 9, 2018 4:30 PM
#60
Since this series is about piano music, my expectations for the music are pretty high. The animation looks kinda simplistic but I can put up with it as long as the story, characters and voice performances are great. So far, this episode was mostly setup and showcased an interesting story and likable characters. Hopefully, the show will hold itself up over the course of the season. |
Apr 9, 2018 4:59 PM
#61
Apr 9, 2018 6:02 PM
#62
I like it! The art style sometimes reminds me a little bit of Japanese animation characters in video games (especially the first part when Kai is playing at the concert) Overall, I enjoyed it. Looking forward to find out how Kai can play the piano whereas other people can not. |
Apr 9, 2018 6:02 PM
#63
Have been reading the manga and its so breathtaking! And speaking of first episode, honestly it was charming for me (maybe I liked more after reading the manga) but this manga really deserved really better faithful adaptation.. I like simplistic artstyle here but the production quality wasn't that impressive (especially for 1st episode) and it looked more like it would been ready for 4-cour.. oh well 1-cour wasn't fair at all ;_; |
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Apr 9, 2018 6:19 PM
#64
not a bad first episode had high hopes for this being music focused art is pretty simple nice backgrounds,use of CGI mixing 2D and 3D is jarring and doesn't look that great would've been fine with just CGI hands since they are hard to animate doing such fast pace movements but oh well don't think this is a big budget project. still quite confused on the whole only being able to play that one piano was waiting for it to end up being some sort of dream lol. |
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Apr 9, 2018 6:20 PM
#65
Yikes. The character designs look like trash. All of them. Are really bad. Kai's mom is the only one that looks semi-decent. All the colors are drab-looking, as if theyre doing a really bad job at imitating the early 2000s muted color palette. The CGI is only a couple steps away from being on Berserk's level. The only good part about the CGI is the accuracy of the hand and finger movements across the piano; but that level of realism crosses into the uncanny valley. And the story pacing isnt good either. They have 12 episodes to work with, yet theyve already trucked right over a large number of plot points in the first episode. A lot of the scenes really couldve used a even a little more time to help develop the impact the certain scenes are supposed to have. And how are they going to spread this across 12 episodes without it falling flat boring in the middle? |
Apr 9, 2018 7:30 PM
#66
The CGI was so bad I couldn't last more than 5 minutes... What a shame. I was kind of looking forward to this too. |
Apr 9, 2018 7:34 PM
#67
Mixed feelings for the first episode, it wasn't bad but it just pales in comparison to the movie. Definitely feels really fast paced, I remember the movie doing a far better job at characterizing Shuuhei, Kai and Ajino as well. The CG performances are not bad because of the CG itself but because the direction seems very mediocre. The piano performance just lacked any sort of impact or charm, it doesn't give off or even attempt to portray the beauty of playing the piano. It feels monotonic and the performances just seem to exist just for the sake of it having to be there rather than being a driving force of the show. Even Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso did an astounding job in portraying the piano performances, I just wish they had were able to capture some of that essence from the movie that feels sorely lacking here. Not sure what to expect from this now. I just hope it turns out decent enough. The good stuff is the fact that this even got an adaptation. |
Apr 9, 2018 8:08 PM
#69
Music is on point, the CG is fluid but can be jarring at times, still better than CG Kenshirou this season lol |
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Apr 9, 2018 8:55 PM
#70
CGI piano playing? ...Why? |
Apr 9, 2018 9:16 PM
#71
Lol wasted potential, the animation looks like shit.. I’ll pass on this. Nostalgik said: FireFistYK said: I understand that. But that's hardly a negative point in my opinion, considering that, unfortunately, the norm nowadays is to use CG :/ Imagine if these were 3D scenes at 10 frames per second and with bad synch with the songs being played... I'd say props to Gainax for, despite getting in the CGI train, making it look the best possibleNostalgik said: And those were, in my opinion, bad CGI scenes. This one was one of the most fluid and accurate CGI hand movements I've ever seen, especially when talking about playing instruments in TV anime It was fluid yes, very in fact. But I'd have preferred it being animated the way that the anime has been animated so far, it felt out of place I don’t know what anime you’ve been watching, but Cgi animation is not the norm.. It’s mostly used for quick sequences not whole scenes like this. It just looks bad, it’s a perfectly fine negative point to make when criticizing an anime. |
Apr 9, 2018 9:24 PM
#72
Kai is bullied and stuff because his mom is a prostitute so he runs to the forest to play piano all the time. He's not miraculously gifted and you're going to skip that? mcrta_weeb said: ANIME ACKNOWLEDGES THAT POLAND EXISTS!! It's about Chopin so there's going to be lots of Poland in this anime! lol |
ahneemeApr 9, 2018 9:41 PM
Apr 9, 2018 11:59 PM
#73
wow! this is something...something really good! Chopin-Etude no. 1 in C major, Op. 10 no. 1 performance was breathtaking! 5/5. |
Apr 10, 2018 12:28 AM
#74
I sense some supernatural bullshit going on around here. Well, as long as they can make sense out of it then I would be fine with it. It was still a pretty decent first episode and I like the characters mainly because of the way they behave and react. Plus, after seeing Golden Kamuy, the CGI here looks really tame and actually blends in better. ^_^ |
Apr 10, 2018 1:22 AM
#75
Limonene said: I almost spat out the cake I was eating after hearing my language in the first seconds :/ So weird. Yea, it was super weird, especially because it sounded like youtube fandub I was like - hold on, what the hell is going on xD As for animu itself... Music is good, but we've seen better CGi fingers already ^^ |
Apr 10, 2018 1:55 AM
#76
Blarey said: I'm not saying it's objectively not a negative point. If you don't like it, then you don't like it xD no can't do. I was comparing it to Shigatsu's 3D animation, but again, that all comes down to personal preference in the end.Lol wasted potential, the animation looks like shit.. I’ll pass on this. Nostalgik said: FireFistYK said: Nostalgik said: And those were, in my opinion, bad CGI scenes. This one was one of the most fluid and accurate CGI hand movements I've ever seen, especially when talking about playing instruments in TV anime It was fluid yes, very in fact. But I'd have preferred it being animated the way that the anime has been animated so far, it felt out of place I don’t know what anime you’ve been watching, but Cgi animation is not the norm.. It’s mostly used for quick sequences not whole scenes like this. It just looks bad, it’s a perfectly fine negative point to make when criticizing an anime. |
Apr 10, 2018 2:58 AM
#77
This reminds me of Sakamichi no Apollon (2 guys and music involved I think) or the Rakugo anime (2 guys and Rakugo and music are both arts). You can't compare it to Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso. Totally different feeling. Here it feels more calm and serious. With the teacher as another interesting char with background I liked the episode 1. Possibly the best calm/serious anime of this seasn (maybe of the year) and even in my overall ranking this should be high. This could be a 9/10 if they keep it up. Also I saw there was a movie from 2007 and the manga which ran very long. I guess it isn't necessary to watch that movie and the series is adapting from the beginning ... but surely only a small part (in 1 cour) of that very long manga. |
Apr 10, 2018 3:04 AM
#78
Maybe there will be a time skip soon, dunno there is already the movie why would they recap the whole thing again |
Apr 10, 2018 7:09 AM
#79
ahneeme said: that makes me really happy :)Kai is bullied and stuff because his mom is a prostitute so he runs to the forest to play piano all the time. He's not miraculously gifted and you're going to skip that? mcrta_weeb said: ANIME ACKNOWLEDGES THAT POLAND EXISTS!! It's about Chopin so there's going to be lots of Poland in this anime! lol |
Apr 10, 2018 7:45 AM
#80
The story isn't bad and the art/animation is a bit unique (and the CGI isn't annoying). |
Apr 10, 2018 7:47 AM
#81
i liked it,i love anime about music |
Apr 10, 2018 8:25 AM
#82
Ooof, decided to read manga along side after hearing how much that cut/skipped and man it is rough. Basically all of the characterization/backstory for Kai and Ajino was either extremely rushed or completely left out. Particularly for Kai it makes it hard to appreciate just how rough he has it, even if some of it is not super TV friendly. There were even details left out about Amamiya. Besides the kinda ugly CG, it was probably a pretty decent standalone episode. The pacing was blisteringly fast, and when you know how much is being skipped it's just kinda meh. |
Apr 10, 2018 9:26 AM
#83
Very good first ep. I normally don't like CG but they were able to incorporate it beautifully! The closeup camera angles on the piano were mesmerizing! I will be looking forward to ep 2. |
Apr 10, 2018 9:28 AM
#84
ProofByColor said: Ooof, decided to read manga along side after hearing how much that cut/skipped and man it is rough. Basically all of the characterization/backstory for Kai and Ajino was either extremely rushed or completely left out. Particularly for Kai it makes it hard to appreciate just how rough he has it, even if some of it is not super TV friendly. There were even details left out about Amamiya. Besides the kinda ugly CG, it was probably a pretty decent standalone episode. The pacing was blisteringly fast, and when you know how much is being skipped it's just kinda meh. Even though I haven't read the manga, I can tell that they definitely left some of that out but I think that a lot of the background will come to light in ep 2, as we are just now seeing who Ajino-senpai really is. |
Apr 10, 2018 10:46 AM
#85
GuyWRunningShirt said: ProofByColor said: Ooof, decided to read manga along side after hearing how much that cut/skipped and man it is rough. Basically all of the characterization/backstory for Kai and Ajino was either extremely rushed or completely left out. Particularly for Kai it makes it hard to appreciate just how rough he has it, even if some of it is not super TV friendly. There were even details left out about Amamiya. Besides the kinda ugly CG, it was probably a pretty decent standalone episode. The pacing was blisteringly fast, and when you know how much is being skipped it's just kinda meh. Even though I haven't read the manga, I can tell that they definitely left some of that out but I think that a lot of the background will come to light in ep 2, as we are just now seeing who Ajino-senpai really is. I hope you are correct. What I've read so far has been really good, but going over 12 chapters in 1 episode is rough. I hope they don't plan on trying to squeeze 242 chapters into 12 episodes. |
Apr 10, 2018 11:06 AM
#86
I watched the movie today and ehh... this adaption didn’t really give me the feelings I got from the movie. I wanted to see something similar, heart-warming and beautiful, but no. I don’t know, maybe I’ll just go read the manga. |
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Apr 10, 2018 11:35 AM
#87
I watched the movie back then and loved it. So glad this series get a full reboot for a much more complete story. So far I'm loving the art-style. I knew they use CG for the piano part, but I think it blend in well with the with 2D hand-drawn character's face, so it really doesn't bother me one bit. I don't get the low rating though :/ |
Apr 10, 2018 11:38 AM
#88
ProofByColor said: Ooof, decided to read manga along side after hearing how much that cut/skipped and man it is rough. Basically all of the characterization/backstory for Kai and Ajino was either extremely rushed or completely left out. Particularly for Kai it makes it hard to appreciate just how rough he has it, even if some of it is not super TV friendly. There were even details left out about Amamiya. Besides the kinda ugly CG, it was probably a pretty decent standalone episode. The pacing was blisteringly fast, and when you know how much is being skipped it's just kinda meh. Tbf, they have a movie about it already, so I see no point on dwelling in the part that's already showed. Hunter x Hunter 2011 reboot is much rushed compare to 1999 version yet people still rate it highly. |
Apr 10, 2018 11:40 AM
#89
Eugenefindit said: I sense some supernatural bullshit going on around here. Well, as long as they can make sense out of it then I would be fine with it. It was still a pretty decent first episode and I like the characters mainly because of the way they behave and react. Plus, after seeing Golden Kamuy, the CGI here looks really tame and actually blends in better. ^_^ Well , I think it's just that piano requires certain degree of force to be played, and with child's strength, it usually can't be played. Kai being the exception ofc. Did you see the part when Kai played the regular piano, he pressed too hard? |
Apr 10, 2018 11:42 AM
#90
GangsterCat said: I like everything other than the CG when they play piano. How can they end this in 12 episode? maybe 12 episode until the flash forward in the beginning and the entire chopin competition next season? It seems it's going to be worldwide simulcast Yeah, 12 ep really worries me. I think they'd skip alot of the more "mature contents" in both the childhood and grownup part. |
Apr 10, 2018 12:11 PM
#91
ProofByColor said: GuyWRunningShirt said: ProofByColor said: Ooof, decided to read manga along side after hearing how much that cut/skipped and man it is rough. Basically all of the characterization/backstory for Kai and Ajino was either extremely rushed or completely left out. Particularly for Kai it makes it hard to appreciate just how rough he has it, even if some of it is not super TV friendly. There were even details left out about Amamiya. Besides the kinda ugly CG, it was probably a pretty decent standalone episode. The pacing was blisteringly fast, and when you know how much is being skipped it's just kinda meh. Even though I haven't read the manga, I can tell that they definitely left some of that out but I think that a lot of the background will come to light in ep 2, as we are just now seeing who Ajino-senpai really is. I hope you are correct. What I've read so far has been really good, but going over 12 chapters in 1 episode is rough. I hope they don't plan on trying to squeeze 242 chapters into 12 episodes. Yeah, that would be a nightmare! |
Apr 10, 2018 4:16 PM
#92
Absolutely beautiful. I loved every second of this. |
Apr 10, 2018 4:46 PM
#93
In relation to the film, the series leaves much to be desired in regards to the visuals. See-sawing between good animation and CG sequences makes it just plain hard-to-watch. The first two to three episodes will most likely be a summary of the film, so what, we get 9 "new" manga-based episodes? Please. Stick with the 2007 film; overall, the quality is much higher and the style more sophisticated. This is a one-time-watch series, at best. |
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Apr 10, 2018 5:52 PM
#94
GuyWRunningShirt said: ProofByColor said: GuyWRunningShirt said: ProofByColor said: Ooof, decided to read manga along side after hearing how much that cut/skipped and man it is rough. Basically all of the characterization/backstory for Kai and Ajino was either extremely rushed or completely left out. Particularly for Kai it makes it hard to appreciate just how rough he has it, even if some of it is not super TV friendly. There were even details left out about Amamiya. Besides the kinda ugly CG, it was probably a pretty decent standalone episode. The pacing was blisteringly fast, and when you know how much is being skipped it's just kinda meh. Even though I haven't read the manga, I can tell that they definitely left some of that out but I think that a lot of the background will come to light in ep 2, as we are just now seeing who Ajino-senpai really is. I hope you are correct. What I've read so far has been really good, but going over 12 chapters in 1 episode is rough. I hope they don't plan on trying to squeeze 242 chapters into 12 episodes. Yeah, that would be a nightmare! Tbf, not shitting on manga, the manga does has some part I feel like it could be left out, like some of the much less important participants get like 2~3 chapters of screen time too, those can probably be left out. Basically the characters show up in the OP are probably pretty much all the characters the anime is going to cover. I think this is the right thing to do, considering this series is not popular enough to get multiple seasonal adaptations. People usually only care about slice of life moe girls/ isekai/ fantasy/ battle shonen/ gore and teenagers school romance. Series like this is rough in anime industry. |
Apr 10, 2018 6:05 PM
#95
TsundeReaper said: Why was he crying after he showed them his pee pee? Did they suck it or something lul Im fucking crying i cant stop laughing help |
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Apr 10, 2018 8:16 PM
#96
The only thing I found interesting about this episode is that Kai's mother is a whore, and she's hot. Other then that there were no positives about this episode. |
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Apr 10, 2018 8:38 PM
#97
Ventus_S said: Eugenefindit said: I sense some supernatural bullshit going on around here. Well, as long as they can make sense out of it then I would be fine with it. It was still a pretty decent first episode and I like the characters mainly because of the way they behave and react. Plus, after seeing Golden Kamuy, the CGI here looks really tame and actually blends in better. ^_^ Well , I think it's just that piano requires certain degree of force to be played, and with child's strength, it usually can't be played. Kai being the exception ofc. Did you see the part when Kai played the regular piano, he pressed too hard? Well, I really hope that's all there is to it. I just have a bad feeling that they might pull some cheap twist like I mentioned. I hope I'm wrong. ^_^ |
Apr 10, 2018 10:03 PM
#98
Don't do piano, kids, turns you into CG. But solid start, loved the movie. Love Kai's mom more. |
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Apr 11, 2018 2:08 AM
#99
Well dropped,the CGI is killing ever fun moments i have with this,the intro for example could have been full of emotion and beautiful to look at but the CGI kills it all,sad cause i really wanted another good music anime after Nodame Cantabile,heh i guess i'll watch the movie and read the mango instead,fuck you Netflix for doing this. |
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Apr 11, 2018 2:32 AM
#100
The score it has really made me look forward for it, but after seeing it I'm EXTREMERLY disappointed. It's amazing that in an anime that's about playing the piano, they make that specific part CG. Also it's even worse the fact that they don't even stick with CG the whole scene. For me, those mistakes are way too big, so even though the idea of the anime is really good, the final product is pretty shitty (it has some mistakes on the 2D part too) so I guess I'll just drop the anime and I'll go to read the manga. |
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