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Jul 29, 2016 5:03 PM
#51
geralt said: So wait did Ikta basically say he would have joined the rebels in killing the princess or did I misinterpret that? He did say that they could have asked him to join them. I think that maybe he meant to join them in a sense NOT to KILL the PRINCESS, but to do something against the rulers with what happened to the commander "who died to cover up a political failure." Remember in previous episodes that Ikta disliked how things went with "orders from the royalty," and with the loyalty to the crown (governing body). He even told the General Rikan to retreat from a pointless battle, but the general refused because he did not want to disobey orders. Also, Ikta expressed that he became three things that he did not want to be (after being granted nobility/imperial knight status/medal of honor), so he probably holds a grudge for something that might've happened to him/yatori in the past. Note: I haven't read the novel so this is all speculation at this point. |
leezodneJul 29, 2016 5:06 PM
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Jul 29, 2016 5:11 PM
#52
Fantastic episode, this show is becoming one of the shows I look forward to most in the week |
Jul 29, 2016 6:42 PM
#55
Really great episode,i guess im alone in not hating the princess. |
Jul 29, 2016 7:00 PM
#56
Is there any news in regard to how many episodes this show is? Reason why I ask is because I haven't really seen anything in regard to how many episodes this show is going to be. If it's 12 episodes than I am going to be pissed. From what I know the show is doing terribly in Japan so chances of this getting a season 2 are slim. It's really early to think about if this show will get a season 2 but things are looking pretty bleak right now. I fucking love the opening for this show by the way. Was kinda disappointed that this episode didn't have the opening. |
Jul 29, 2016 7:22 PM
#57
This anime better be 2-cours. This is too good to be just 1-cour anime. Ikta Solork, made laziness sounds great since 2016 |
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Jul 29, 2016 7:38 PM
#59
Ugh, I hate the fucking princess so much, besides that, this was a great episode. |
Jul 29, 2016 8:08 PM
#60
Meh ep. Not great but not terribly bad. I was looking forward to what kind of interesting strategy Ikta would crush that guy with, but instead with got some random rebellion thing in the end to forcefeed how "kewl" Yatori is. If Yatori could down a squadron of elite soldiers armed with guns by herself in actual combat, why do they even bother with strategy in this show. She would have crushed Ikta's forces single-handedly in the early skirmish by the river or the north entrance regardless of which side had the advantage. Yeah.. not a huge fan of this artificially-made super-heroine that fights for her sense of justice even though it amounts to little more than following a blind (and retrospectively wrong) ideal of loyalty. |
Jul 29, 2016 8:38 PM
#61
i was cool with most of the episode but the red bit was great Besides the poor joke Yatori one of the better LN Redheads shes such a savage |
Jul 29, 2016 9:06 PM
#62
Plot: As already mentioned by someone above, it's basically splitted into 2 parts: Ikta's tactic & Yatri's OP mode. Ikta: It would have been more interesting if only the enemy boss is a decent pr*ck. As a story about war tactic, it's nice. Though it lost its charm because they just decided to reveal the bridge at last minute. (or more like: it's not the bridge itself, but more like they didn't show anything about Ikta finding the tree or something of the sort, and only showed it when they revealed the bridge. In a action-related story, especially war narration like this, explaining the detailed condition of the terrain and environment is utmost important.) But as a story about war strategy, it's shite. Because that enemy boss' army condition do not follow the basics written in lots of war strategy books and guidelines. The enemy boss is standard "underling boss". And, even if he's not the character he is (even if he's not underling boss,) the result of the battle was already set the moment Yatri entered their rank. I mean: Yatri smelled Ikta's tactic right after she heard Ikta moved his army to the river. She could have chosen to fake following Ikta's lure while in truth, she's "setting ambush for Ikta's ambush." She didn't. She followed the trap despite knowing Ikta's plot. Means she deliberately set it to be 2 vs 3. Means they were doomed from the start, the "training army" she served under. Best character in this part of the story, for me, is that Lieutenant Shusuraf (was it? his name. Something like that.) He seems to understand that losing the battle doesn't equal to losing the war. That's why his pride as a senior doesn't stop him to order retreat and admit defeat. If Ikta is smart, I'm pretty sure he would notice this after some time. Yatri: Standard politic plot. At the least it was told in a proper enough fashion. Unfortunately I was too busy shouting: "if you're really looking for revenge, than kill that annoying useless princess on the spot instead of taking her as hostage, captain whose-name-I-forgot-already. You're looking for more than just redeeming your teacher's honor, aren't you? What do you want? Money? Or you wanted to kill someone else, instead? Either way, you'll be dead in 5 thanks to that solider pride of yours." And 5 minutes later he did die lol. Animation, screen-play, etc.: Basic Madhouse. Sound: If Madhouse is involved, you should expect the music to be at least good. |
Jul 29, 2016 9:56 PM
#63
Oh wow, this was a pretty good episode. Nachtwandler_21 said: To bad, Madhouse did not get a good budget for the series to make the battles more graphic but I still like the series. It is supposed to be more graphic than this? |
Jul 29, 2016 10:25 PM
#64
GD1551 said: Oh wow, this was a pretty good episode. Nachtwandler_21 said: To bad, Madhouse did not get a good budget for the series to make the battles more graphic but I still like the series. It is supposed to be more graphic than this? I'm assuming he means better looking, as the first part was just a mock battle with paint, and the second part was about as bloody as the manga adaptation at least. |
Jul 29, 2016 10:32 PM
#65
antonn said: GD1551 said: Oh wow, this was a pretty good episode. Nachtwandler_21 said: To bad, Madhouse did not get a good budget for the series to make the battles more graphic but I still like the series. It is supposed to be more graphic than this? I'm assuming he means better looking, as the first part was just a mock battle with paint, and the second part was about as bloody as the manga adaptation at least. Ah ok, because in terms of animation and directing I thought the battle was really well done. It was "cool" without being too over the top. Revvie-chan said: Plot: As already mentioned by someone above, it's basically splitted into 2 parts: Ikta's tactic & Yatri's OP mode. Ikta: It would have been more interesting if only the enemy boss is a decent pr*ck. As a story about war tactic, it's nice. Though it lost its charm because they just decided to reveal the bridge at last minute. (or more like: it's not the bridge itself, but more like they didn't show anything about Ikta finding the tree or something of the sort, and only showed it when they revealed the bridge. In a action-related story, especially war narration like this, explaining the detailed condition of the terrain and environment is utmost important.) But as a story about war strategy, it's shite. Because that enemy boss' army condition do not follow the basics written in lots of war strategy books and guidelines. The enemy boss is standard "underling boss". And, even if he's not the character he is (even if he's not underling boss,) the result of the battle was already set the moment Yatri entered their rank. I mean: Yatri smelled Ikta's tactic right after she heard Ikta moved his army to the river. She could have chosen to fake following Ikta's lure while in truth, she's "setting ambush for Ikta's ambush." She didn't. She followed the trap despite knowing Ikta's plot. Means she deliberately set it to be 2 vs 3. Means they were doomed from the start, the "training army" she served under. Best character in this part of the story, for me, is that Lieutenant Shusuraf (was it? his name. Something like that.) He seems to understand that losing the battle doesn't equal to losing the war. That's why his pride as a senior doesn't stop him to order retreat and admit defeat. If Ikta is smart, I'm pretty sure he would notice this after some time. Yatri: Standard politic plot. At the least it was told in a proper enough fashion. Unfortunately I was too busy shouting: "if you're really looking for revenge, than kill that annoying useless princess on the spot instead of taking her as hostage, captain whose-name-I-forgot-already. You're looking for more than just redeeming your teacher's honor, aren't you? What do you want? Money? Or you wanted to kill someone else, instead? Either way, you'll be dead in 5 thanks to that solider pride of yours." And 5 minutes later he did die lol. Animation, screen-play, etc.: Basic Madhouse. Sound: If Madhouse is involved, you should expect the music to be at least good. She was following orders, it has been noted Yatori is a by the book type, she even tried to explain to him that it was naive to think the enemy chose that location without having some advantage but he still sent her so she complied. The whole scenario just shows how an incompetent commander can doom his/her men. It didn't matter if she knew it was a trap or not, orders were orders. It was the same way the General the guys were trying to avenge followed his orders despite knowing they'd get annihilated. |
GD1551Jul 29, 2016 10:36 PM
Jul 29, 2016 10:46 PM
#66
Jul 29, 2016 10:48 PM
#67
Wahahaha. Definitely / very sure that I like this series now. Thrilling episode~ |
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Jul 29, 2016 10:52 PM
#68
Best part of the episode in my opinion was the connection established between Ikta and Yatori after she completely slaughtered the soldiers. I definitely ship them now. |
Jul 29, 2016 11:02 PM
#69
Yatori and that bloody fight. I really liked how that was executed after the fight. Amazing. |
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Jul 29, 2016 11:22 PM
#70
"By the way, this is a secret, but you're really red right now" Unintended period joke? |
Jul 30, 2016 12:57 AM
#71
Fai said: Cornbread78 said: sleeper hit of the season... That was amazing. Sadly with the amount of attention this gets(hint: none), this is bound to be another Rokka and sell like 10 copies... I'm afraid you might be right. Why do you think it's getting such little traction with viewers? It's an LN adaptation by Madhouse, the characters have the right age (not adults) to be appealing to the masses...Is it because Alderamin is not a "hype" product? Or should it have pandered more to gain viewers? |
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Jul 30, 2016 1:16 AM
#72
Wow Yatori is such a bad ass on the battlefield while Ikta is just such a great strategist. Truly a match made in heaven if they end up together. Yatori is not the kind of girl that you want to mess with on the field lol. I quite enjoyed this episode as though the tactics were simple they can still be effective when the terrain is right and when facing foes that are predictable. Torway's idiotic brother is just so amusing to watch as he is being outthinked. A great episode all round where the mc uses his brain instead of his brawn and i hope it keeps up |
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Jul 30, 2016 1:21 AM
#73
Jee I wonder what the final pairings are going to be... |
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Jul 30, 2016 1:24 AM
#74
HowTragic said: but instead with got some random rebellion thing in the end to forcefeed how "kewl" Yatori is. Not random as there was build up towards that from the second episode already. If Yatori could down a squadron of elite soldiers armed with guns by herself in actual combat, why do they even bother with strategy in this show. She would have crushed Ikta's forces single-handedly in the early skirmish by the river or the north entrance regardless of which side had the advantage. Yeah.. not a huge fan of this artificially-made super-heroine that fights for her sense of justice even though it amounts to little more than following a blind (and retrospectively wrong) ideal of loyalty. Except that she did none of that. The first time she entered and put a sword to the commander's neck, she would have died had the troops not respected the commander's life above their orders. AND then she got pinned. She never "downed a whole squad in actual combat" - the commander got shot, which distracted the soldiers leaving them vulnerable(the exact same thing Ikta talked about in the mockbattle in how taking down a commander usually causes chaos). Everything else was adrenaline in threat of her life. Its what we call fight or flight response. She even went into shock afterward. Farabeuf said: Fai said: Cornbread78 said: sleeper hit of the season... That was amazing. Sadly with the amount of attention this gets(hint: none), this is bound to be another Rokka and sell like 10 copies... I'm afraid you might be right. Why do you think it's getting such little traction with viewers? It's an LN adaptation by Madhouse, the characters have the right age (not adults) to be appealing to the masses...Is it because Alderamin is not a "hype" product? Or should it have pandered more to gain viewers? It was extremely badly marketed. Even from the very first PV. Both first and second PV are basically shots of female waists, redhead fighting and naked MC about to jump into the water. I mean from trailers alone I thought It would be either typical magic school stuff or something like first few arcs of Magi. The cheesy op song(and op overall) and completely and utterly generic sameface character designs did not help. There was absolutely zero hype pre-release too. With ReZero and the likes everyone and their grandma shouted "deconstruction, omg this is gonna be like sooooo brutal and edgy blah blah blha" off the top of their lungs. Alderamin had none of that hype-up period. It also, just like Rokka no Yuusha, lacks the things a mainstream would appreciate. I mean so far it has been a show about characters talking about war tactics. Romance is kept to a zero so far(and a HUGE portion of anime audience watches things solely for ships). And the MC is a sarcastic playboy whom I see being hated by a lot of more casual audience. Alderamin has mixed and badly handled marketing, awful choices in character designs, lack of tropes casual crowd would be in it for, an MC a typical japanese won't relate to(as in he is not a humble loud japanese teenager), war and tactics focused narrative, lack of fanservice. Oh and (Seemingly? idk) middle-eastern setting that Japanese can't identify with. Its basically in same situation as Rokka. Not to mention overall it is quite usually ignored as "that biseasonal typical LN adaptation with redhead tsundere female and magic school setting"(Hell the only reason I even checked this out was because I was bored). IT lacks any sort of hype or traction within community(ex: youtube reviews, reactions, forum threads, etc). Even those who cover expected a fanservice magic school and still somewhat treat it as that. |
Jul 30, 2016 1:31 AM
#75
@Fai Yep, too bad all those LN adaptions have ruined it for Alderamin. It's source is quite good and it's well adapted. Most LN adaptions should be happy if they have one of these. edit: anyone know if the series director is new. His list only has sth that looks like crap and sth that I know is really crap. Or did those 2 before just have crappy source material? |
BozzzzJul 30, 2016 1:38 AM
Jul 30, 2016 1:56 AM
#76
Jul 30, 2016 2:41 AM
#78
This is great. Turned into a lot of blood at the end - did not expect that. Pacing is fast and I like it. First thought this would be alonger kidnapping arc or at least 2-3 episodes dealing with this. But the faster pacing is nice. I want Ikta to get promoted in ranks fast and have some real battles soon. Love the chemistry between him and the princess. And the other arrogant guy that lost ... will be interesting to see wether he continues to work against Ikta or if he accepts him as leader later in the series. (Or he just gets less important and killed or removed from army cause he is a noob. :D ) Edit: Oh and I really like that ending song. Fits the fantasy/action setting. |
Jul 30, 2016 2:42 AM
#79
GD1551 said: Oh wow, this was a pretty good episode. Nachtwandler_21 said: To bad, Madhouse did not get a good budget for the series to make the battles more graphic but I still like the series. It is supposed to be more graphic than this? I meant the first past with a mock battle. In Vanadis we mainly got stills and average 3D. Here we got mostly stills and distant shots also with a 3D. |
Jul 30, 2016 3:31 AM
#80
This episode, is one of my fav episode from this series because when Yattori went beserk and started slicing, killing people off, that was so freaking badass. and i didn't see that coming. i mean, she just suddenly, without any pause, just went beserk after that green hair guy took a shot. without hestitation, she let out her rage into all over her body mentaly and phisically and slicing those bunch of people like a beast xD that's how i see her when she went beserk and that was so badass AF. i really like that a lot. and i kinda like the MC that she is kinda similiar like Sora from NGNL. not phsically strong but smart xD moreover with that personality. tbh, this anime is getting more better and better every week. i'm liking it a lot right now :D looking foward for the next episode :D |
Jul 30, 2016 3:46 AM
#81
GD1551 said: Revvie-chan said: Plot: As already mentioned by someone above, it's basically splitted into 2 parts: Ikta's tactic & Yatri's OP mode. Ikta: It would have been more interesting if only the enemy boss is a decent pr*ck. As a story about war tactic, it's nice. Though it lost its charm because they just decided to reveal the bridge at last minute. (or more like: it's not the bridge itself, but more like they didn't show anything about Ikta finding the tree or something of the sort, and only showed it when they revealed the bridge. In a action-related story, especially war narration like this, explaining the detailed condition of the terrain and environment is utmost important.) But as a story about war strategy, it's shite. Because that enemy boss' army condition do not follow the basics written in lots of war strategy books and guidelines. The enemy boss is standard "underling boss". And, even if he's not the character he is (even if he's not underling boss,) the result of the battle was already set the moment Yatri entered their rank. I mean: Yatri smelled Ikta's tactic right after she heard Ikta moved his army to the river. She could have chosen to fake following Ikta's lure while in truth, she's "setting ambush for Ikta's ambush." She didn't. She followed the trap despite knowing Ikta's plot. Means she deliberately set it to be 2 vs 3. Means they were doomed from the start, the "training army" she served under. Best character in this part of the story, for me, is that Lieutenant Shusuraf (was it? his name. Something like that.) He seems to understand that losing the battle doesn't equal to losing the war. That's why his pride as a senior doesn't stop him to order retreat and admit defeat. If Ikta is smart, I'm pretty sure he would notice this after some time. Yatri: Standard politic plot. At the least it was told in a proper enough fashion. Unfortunately I was too busy shouting: "if you're really looking for revenge, than kill that annoying useless princess on the spot instead of taking her as hostage, captain whose-name-I-forgot-already. You're looking for more than just redeeming your teacher's honor, aren't you? What do you want? Money? Or you wanted to kill someone else, instead? Either way, you'll be dead in 5 thanks to that solider pride of yours." And 5 minutes later he did die lol. Animation, screen-play, etc.: Basic Madhouse. Sound: If Madhouse is involved, you should expect the music to be at least good. She was following orders, it has been noted Yatori is a by the book type, she even tried to explain to him that it was naive to think the enemy chose that location without having some advantage but he still sent her so she complied. The whole scenario just shows how an incompetent commander can doom his/her men. It didn't matter if she knew it was a trap or not, orders were orders. It was the same way the General the guys were trying to avenge followed his orders despite knowing they'd get annihilated. Ah, so the poor captain just followed the old general's last order? I thought it was his & his men own initiative to avenge the general they loved. There goes my regard to the general, flushed out. ^^; |
Jul 30, 2016 4:01 AM
#82
It had a slow start but I never thought I would enjoy this as much as I am,war animes ar not my type but Ikta and Yatory make this so worth watching |
Jul 30, 2016 4:06 AM
#83
HowTragic said: Meh ep. Not great but not terribly bad. I was looking forward to what kind of interesting strategy Ikta would crush that guy with, but instead with got some random rebellion thing, in the end, to force-feed how "new" Satori is. If Yatori could down a squadron of elite soldiers armed with guns by herself in actual combat, why do they even bother with strategy in this show? She would have crushed Ike's forces single-handedly in the early skirmish by the river or the north entrance regardless of which side had the advantage. Yeah.. not a huge fan of this artificially-made super-heroine that fights for her sense of justice even though it amounts to little more than following a blind (and retrospectively wrong) ideal of loyalty. you, my man,are a pretentious prick,no they planned that a long time but the princess was always around them so there was no opening,maybe they did not know who survived the battle as it was not their concern...she is not a super heroine,she is a soldier,soldier are not heroes,they are monsters of the battlefield |
Jul 30, 2016 5:01 AM
#84
Ikta's tactics and brilliance shines once again this episode, this time around his troops defeated a far more experienced army in a mock battle with relative ease. He definitely earns the moniker "Invincible Lazy General". Thanks to this victory, he has gained a lot of respect from his troops and silenced his detractors. Hopefully he comes across another genius in battle to make it more interesting, I'd like to see him struggle and see how he reacts. Yatori may be a formidable foe as she seems to understand what Ikta is doing along with her insanely good fighting skills and swordsmanship. Not sure if some of you noticed this but Yatori completely ignores her General's orders when Ikta's group left the main squad and believed they were going to flank him. Yatori believed it was a trap and it turns out she was correct. Rather than intercept Ikta's squad to prevent a flanking, she sent in scouts instead and found out that Ikta's squad were waiting to ambush them. If she were to go searching for Ikta's squad, Torway would've picked a few of them off and Yatori's return to save her general would've been delayed. Fortunately she as wise enough to not go all in and because of that, she was able to return in time to save her commanding officer. So kudos for her on that. Some of the real soldiers have a problem with the Kingdom's orders as they felt they should avenge their fallen teacher. Wonder if there is more rift within the ranks? Anyways, Yatori was an absolute beast on that final scene. Really cute moment with Yatori and Ikta. If Ikta is the "Invincible Lazy General" can we call Yatori "Battousai the Manslayer?" She completely obliterated those rebellious soldiers with ease. 4/5 Ikta is brilliant, Yatori is a monster and I really want drink some tomato juice. |
TehSnawnJul 30, 2016 5:11 AM
Jul 30, 2016 5:33 AM
#85
Wow! Iktar got popular in a pretty decent time. That ending was quite badass. I'm currently enjoying it more |
Jul 30, 2016 5:38 AM
#86
Wow, that was easily the best episode so far. Yatori is badass I hope that it get 2nd season but chance is very low with madhouse |
Jul 30, 2016 5:40 AM
#87
So the protagonists are on the "evil side" of the war? With how kind the enemy soldiers in ep 2 were and how these rebel they just kill seem to have just cause, and how annoying the princess is (I don't care if she dies) I can't sympathize with the characters anymore. Not to mention the genius tactic is so-so. Dropped. |
zenograffJul 30, 2016 5:46 AM
Jul 30, 2016 6:57 AM
#89
About Yatori and Ikta, the Vol.7 of LN is the high point of their relation. As some people pointed out, the epilogue of Vol.1 its VERY important. Because is the scene who will set the events for entire history, for so to speak. About this episode, it was the best so far. ^2 |
Jul 30, 2016 8:23 AM
#90
Jul 30, 2016 9:55 AM
#91
Fai said: Not random as there was build up towards that from the second episode already. Random not because it appeared without indications, but because it detracted from the main theme in the episode, which was Ikta's ability to perform against more experienced commanders while at a disadvantage, a theme built up from tensions in previous eps that was scrapped midway in favor of Yatori's showtime. Fai said: Except that she did none of that. Regardless if how you want to spin it, that's exactly what she did. Timepoint 18:22. Yatori standing alone in the middle holding two swords, covered in blood and surrounded by dead bodies. No one else in sight. Fai said: The first time she entered and put a sword to the commander's neck, she would have died had the troops not respected the commander's life above their orders. AND then she got pinned. How the soldiers could have acted is irrelevant, because they didn't act. Actually this helps my case more, because now you're telling me someone who was pinned down and about to suffocate to death then got up, and slaughtered the rest of the squadron by herself in her hypoxic state. Fai said: She never "downed a whole squad in actual combat" - the commander got shot, which distracted the soldiers leaving them vulnerable(the exact same thing Ikta talked about in the mockbattle in how taking down a commander usually causes chaos). Everything else was adrenaline in threat of her life. Its what we call fight or flight response. She even went into shock afterward. I don't understand how you can still say she didn't "down a whole squad in actual combat". The commander getting shot allowed her a moment to escape, but she still dealt the finish blow to him, and then proceeded to kill the rest of the squad whose entire focus was on her. Compare this to earlier where they were fighting quite literally noob soldiers distracted in an all out brawl, and you're telling me she couldn't have wiped the floor with them in the same fashion? Adrenaline allows you to maintain your maximum performance for a longer duration of time via continuous sympathetic activation, not to exhibit superhuman strength and prowess that you didn't possess before. This is medicine, not magic. |
Jul 30, 2016 10:14 AM
#92
wow this anime literally came out of nowhere for me but damn its good. This should be WAY more popular. But I guess it as to less harem and ecchi shit to be liked by the most. I already guessed that this series would turn a bit dark or rather serious. But this was unexpected! |
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Jul 30, 2016 10:33 AM
#93
Love this show!!! I really hope it will be 2 cour *.* The lazy philosphy is so true my teacher said almost the same about mathematics, in mathematics the best way to solve a problem is by being lazy x) NB : The sunset as sooo beautiful!!! |
Jul 30, 2016 10:45 AM
#94
Haha, you broke it down quite nicely. Thanks. I guess you must not be popular with the Re.Zero fanboys :-). Fai said: HowTragic said: but instead with got some random rebellion thing in the end to forcefeed how "kewl" Yatori is. Not random as there was build up towards that from the second episode already. If Yatori could down a squadron of elite soldiers armed with guns by herself in actual combat, why do they even bother with strategy in this show. She would have crushed Ikta's forces single-handedly in the early skirmish by the river or the north entrance regardless of which side had the advantage. Yeah.. not a huge fan of this artificially-made super-heroine that fights for her sense of justice even though it amounts to little more than following a blind (and retrospectively wrong) ideal of loyalty. Except that she did none of that. The first time she entered and put a sword to the commander's neck, she would have died had the troops not respected the commander's life above their orders. AND then she got pinned. She never "downed a whole squad in actual combat" - the commander got shot, which distracted the soldiers leaving them vulnerable(the exact same thing Ikta talked about in the mockbattle in how taking down a commander usually causes chaos). Everything else was adrenaline in threat of her life. Its what we call fight or flight response. She even went into shock afterward. Farabeuf said: Fai said: Cornbread78 said: sleeper hit of the season... That was amazing. Sadly with the amount of attention this gets(hint: none), this is bound to be another Rokka and sell like 10 copies... I'm afraid you might be right. Why do you think it's getting such little traction with viewers? It's an LN adaptation by Madhouse, the characters have the right age (not adults) to be appealing to the masses...Is it because Alderamin is not a "hype" product? Or should it have pandered more to gain viewers? It was extremely badly marketed. Even from the very first PV. Both first and second PV are basically shots of female waists, redhead fighting and naked MC about to jump into the water. I mean from trailers alone I thought It would be either typical magic school stuff or something like first few arcs of Magi. The cheesy op song(and op overall) and completely and utterly generic sameface character designs did not help. There was absolutely zero hype pre-release too. With ReZero and the likes everyone and their grandma shouted "deconstruction, omg this is gonna be like sooooo brutal and edgy blah blah blha" off the top of their lungs. Alderamin had none of that hype-up period. It also, just like Rokka no Yuusha, lacks the things a mainstream would appreciate. I mean so far it has been a show about characters talking about war tactics. Romance is kept to a zero so far(and a HUGE portion of anime audience watches things solely for ships). And the MC is a sarcastic playboy whom I see being hated by a lot of more casual audience. Alderamin has mixed and badly handled marketing, awful choices in character designs, lack of tropes casual crowd would be in it for, an MC a typical japanese won't relate to(as in he is not a humble loud japanese teenager), war and tactics focused narrative, lack of fanservice. Oh and (Seemingly? idk) middle-eastern setting that Japanese can't identify with. Its basically in same situation as Rokka. Not to mention overall it is quite usually ignored as "that biseasonal typical LN adaptation with redhead tsundere female and magic school setting"(Hell the only reason I even checked this out was because I was bored). IT lacks any sort of hype or traction within community(ex: youtube reviews, reactions, forum threads, etc). Even those who cover expected a fanservice magic school and still somewhat treat it as that. |
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Jul 30, 2016 11:01 AM
#95
Revvie-chan said: GD1551 said: Revvie-chan said: Plot: As already mentioned by someone above, it's basically splitted into 2 parts: Ikta's tactic & Yatri's OP mode. Ikta: It would have been more interesting if only the enemy boss is a decent pr*ck. As a story about war tactic, it's nice. Though it lost its charm because they just decided to reveal the bridge at last minute. (or more like: it's not the bridge itself, but more like they didn't show anything about Ikta finding the tree or something of the sort, and only showed it when they revealed the bridge. In a action-related story, especially war narration like this, explaining the detailed condition of the terrain and environment is utmost important.) But as a story about war strategy, it's shite. Because that enemy boss' army condition do not follow the basics written in lots of war strategy books and guidelines. The enemy boss is standard "underling boss". And, even if he's not the character he is (even if he's not underling boss,) the result of the battle was already set the moment Yatri entered their rank. I mean: Yatri smelled Ikta's tactic right after she heard Ikta moved his army to the river. She could have chosen to fake following Ikta's lure while in truth, she's "setting ambush for Ikta's ambush." She didn't. She followed the trap despite knowing Ikta's plot. Means she deliberately set it to be 2 vs 3. Means they were doomed from the start, the "training army" she served under. Best character in this part of the story, for me, is that Lieutenant Shusuraf (was it? his name. Something like that.) He seems to understand that losing the battle doesn't equal to losing the war. That's why his pride as a senior doesn't stop him to order retreat and admit defeat. If Ikta is smart, I'm pretty sure he would notice this after some time. Yatri: Standard politic plot. At the least it was told in a proper enough fashion. Unfortunately I was too busy shouting: "if you're really looking for revenge, than kill that annoying useless princess on the spot instead of taking her as hostage, captain whose-name-I-forgot-already. You're looking for more than just redeeming your teacher's honor, aren't you? What do you want? Money? Or you wanted to kill someone else, instead? Either way, you'll be dead in 5 thanks to that solider pride of yours." And 5 minutes later he did die lol. Animation, screen-play, etc.: Basic Madhouse. Sound: If Madhouse is involved, you should expect the music to be at least good. She was following orders, it has been noted Yatori is a by the book type, she even tried to explain to him that it was naive to think the enemy chose that location without having some advantage but he still sent her so she complied. The whole scenario just shows how an incompetent commander can doom his/her men. It didn't matter if she knew it was a trap or not, orders were orders. It was the same way the General the guys were trying to avenge followed his orders despite knowing they'd get annihilated. Ah, so the poor captain just followed the old general's last order? I thought it was his & his men own initiative to avenge the general they loved. There goes my regard to the general, flushed out. ^^; No, I was sleepy while typing that and clearly made a mess of it. I mean that the General was following orders despite knowing HE would get annihilated. The captain and his men were doing it for their own reasons. |
Jul 30, 2016 11:10 AM
#96
I really do hope an actual romance shows up between the two :). |
Jul 30, 2016 11:16 AM
#97
holy shit, this anime always get better and better every week, i hope they don't make it suck in the end.... |
Jul 30, 2016 11:32 AM
#98
[img]Wohoo, Ikta won, damn that Yatori, if she were to be in a real battle with Ikta, she only need herself to take out his men and him. I'm still think that the princess has feeling for Ikta despite that he is already in a informal relationship with Yatori. C'mon Ikta let's see some hugging with Yataori. |
Jul 30, 2016 1:34 PM
#99
ikta philosophy omg yea whoa so many tomato sauce |
Jul 30, 2016 4:34 PM
#100
I liked first two episode much more than this... I only like that they didnt showed up OP this episode. |
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