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Mar 1, 2016 10:42 AM
#51
There's only so many times you can come into this forum and say "This anime is Shit" and bitch about the animation before it gets old...now's not the time, this anime is shit and the animation is terrible. When Asuka came out of the water and had that towel over her head I seriosuly had no idea who I was looking at for about 3 seconds. The episode wasn't the worst but my god another travesty. Okay we get Masaya the "Main Character's" backstory, which we all basically knew that he was awesome at FC. Only to quit to someone who is a Beginner and just excels at it. Like I can't come to grips that people can put on shoes, fly, play this game, and beat one of if not THE BEST FC player in Japan like it's nothing. Then Inui shows up and just demands a battle...like this is a regular school, they're not known for FC recruits it's just a normal ass school, why would you want to challenge this one? Just to embarrass Asuka and Show up Sense YET AGAIN. Raisken said: Even with Misaki being the best it just keeps getting worse haha. |
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Mar 1, 2016 12:14 PM
#52
Good episode. I'm really waiting for soundtrack (or they are using soundtrack from VN? Please let me know). And I don't understand why some of you are bashing art and animation. I find do it pretty good. Art is amazing, animation just good (or very good in few episodes). It's whole universe better in this way (some cuts with weird faces) than putting tons of crappy CG (for budget saving). I was afraid before it started, because Gonzo was always putting shitty CG to their shows, but here is totally different. Of course CG cuts exist, but Orange (They are listed in OP, as people responsible for CG) is doing pretty good work and it doesn't even look like CG at all (some flying scenes). |
rsc-plMar 2, 2016 7:29 AM
Dub = fake crap. Always. |
Mar 1, 2016 12:25 PM
#53
Misaki is quitting and we learn of why Masaya no longer play the sport. I like Kuudere character like Inui, but boy I kind of hate Inui and her manager...such ass. Are they trying to make everybody drop out from the game?! Just to prove that they make the forbidden tactics work? Agh, Asuka don't give up, and Masaya better get some balls and play again to teach them bitch a lesson or two. |
Mar 1, 2016 1:42 PM
#54
What really bothered me was Inui's coach had very little sportsmanship, I do competitive TKD and in the end we all know it's a game. With Inui's second it's all about crushing the opponents into submission and gloating in their faces later, this total lack of sportsmanship is why I hate Inui's second. |
Mar 1, 2016 1:59 PM
#55
I mean, I have problems with this show, but it's not for lack of Masaya screentime. Because I was well aware from the start that I shouldn't use the V/N as the basis for what I was going to see. And learned very early on (first episode) that Asuka was the MC. As much as that seems difficult for many to grasp, Masaya is, in fact, a "supporting character". Even Mashiro is more in a main character spot than him. And there's nothing wrong with that. The anime never advertised anything differently. People just came in expecting the visual novel, and read MAL's incorrect synopsis (it's been fixed now, but when this first was airing, they were using an entirely wrong one), and got angry that it wasn't following what they expected. That out of the way, Not sure how to feel about this episode. Glad that Asuka wasn't able to do a whole lot, but the crying is kinda...And lots of other thigns that happened were just... Sorry I don't have much words to describe it, but I'm at a loss for words really. I'll finish it out, but I'll probably regret it in the end. This could have been so much better... Ah well. |
Mar 1, 2016 3:27 PM
#56
rsc-pl said: I'm really waiting for soundtrack (or they are using soundtrack from VN? Please let me know). The soundtrack isn't from the VN. It's anime original (although I do believe there are similarities.) and new additions are welcome, especially the Battle BGMs!! |
Mar 1, 2016 6:00 PM
#58
unit2981 said: What really bothered me was Inui's coach had very little sportsmanship, I do competitive TKD and in the end we all know it's a game. With Inui's second it's all about crushing the opponents into submission and gloating in their faces later, this total lack of sportsmanship is why I hate Inui's second. I think this is the root of everyone's issue with the match in this episode. The tactics they used against Asuka are completely irrelevant. Their attitude towards their competitors is probably why everyone is pissed off. |
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Mar 1, 2016 8:59 PM
#59
unit2981 said: What really bothered me was Inui's coach had very little sportsmanship, I do competitive TKD and in the end we all know it's a game. With Inui's second it's all about crushing the opponents into submission and gloating in their faces later, this total lack of sportsmanship is why I hate Inui's second. Yeah, I didn't have a problem with Birdcage, itself. The problem was Inui & Irina's intention of using Birdcage and Irina's gloating. OT: I also found Masaya's past to be a bit underwhelming. Something like he suffered a life-threatening injury that led him to quitting would've been more believable. |
Mar 2, 2016 2:05 AM
#60
Komomo said: rsc-pl said: I'm really waiting for soundtrack (or they are using soundtrack from VN? Please let me know). The soundtrack isn't from the VN. It's anime original (although I do believe there are similarities.) and new additions are welcome, especially the Battle BGMs!! Thanks. I just checked soundtrack from VN and it is great! Maybe even better (but it's pretty common that VNs has much better OSTs than anime adaptations). |
Dub = fake crap. Always. |
Mar 2, 2016 3:14 AM
#61
Inugirlz said: Exactly. This is both the strongest and the weakest part of it. The strongest, because no one have figured out how to deal with it. The weakest, because when someone does figure out how to deal with it, the tactic will be useless.I mean the birdcage involves risks on it's own so its not unfair. You sacrifice getting more points but simply following and mentally controlling your opponent. If you want to take that risk then you must be good. And I agree with the people saying that the tactic is not the problem (it's not against the rules) but the attitude of the girls. |
Mar 2, 2016 5:27 AM
#62
Hate the arrogance of Irina. What a bitch. |
Mar 2, 2016 7:37 AM
#63
1idd0kun said: HeicPy said: drama_menck said: Finally the past of Masaya was revealed, he even looked like a protagonist in this episode, but I still felt that the relationship of it with Misaki was a bit superficial, wanted to see a big drama and tears, but the tears were for the end, and for the account Asuka, the plot again excited me, but still expect a lot more of the protagonist and of the plot .. please tell me that masaya gonna rekt them all with his skill, i want him to fly and win everything not just to sit in couch fuck this anime. In the game Masaya never competes. Asuka beats Saki. The anime will probably be the same. well then lol, why this masaya is mc if he isnt even in action bullshit anime, now i really understand why this anime is below 7mark. about 6. 6 is really good mark for this anime. |
Mar 2, 2016 8:00 AM
#64
They made Asuka cry. Those bitches! Yes, the birdcage is a tactic for winning. People find ways to win. But the same time its scary and takes all the fun out of the sport. That's why Kagami stopped its development but someone picked it up where she left off. It makes an interesting challenge for our MCs. I'm curious how they'll beat them. |
MagitoMar 2, 2016 8:18 AM
Mar 2, 2016 11:25 AM
#65
vampko said: That out of the way, Not sure how to feel about this episode. Glad that Asuka wasn't able to do a whole lot, but the crying is kinda...And lots of other thigns that happened were just.. I don't think she was crying because she lost. I think she felt like shit because she couldn't fly like she wanted. Asuka's all about feeling the freedom of flying, but in this match she just felt restricted, like she really was trapped in a birdcage. I think that's what got to her. |
Mar 2, 2016 11:50 AM
#66
Irina is a bitch I hate her, and Asuka got me with her crying I didn't expect that |
Mar 2, 2016 4:39 PM
#67
I can already imagine the BS way Asuka is written to beat Inui, because it's probably going to happen. What she demonstrated so far doesn't even look close to being enough for beating Inui. Well, whatever. I'm just glad Hinata's story was finally revealed, though it was honestly kinda lackluster. Still, I'd be extremely upset if some amateur beat me at my forte, so I can see where he's coming from. As for the birdcage setup - it's definitely not evil or anything like that, it's just the typical tactic that everyone hates because it can look cheap, unsportsmanship or otherwise taking away a factor in the competition everyone likes. If I ever decide to play the VN, I'm definitely going for Misaki's route. 3/5 SoraSenpai said: Like I can't come to grips that people can put on shoes, fly, play this game, and beat one of if not THE BEST FC player in Japan like it's nothing. I can't understand this as well. Was that kid even expanded upon in the VN? Imagine if he wrecked Masaya and was later all like: "meh, this game is boring", so Hinata's defeat and withdrawal from FC would get even more bitter. |
MaledictMar 2, 2016 4:47 PM
Mar 2, 2016 5:38 PM
#68
Maledict said: SoraSenpai said: Like I can't come to grips that people can put on shoes, fly, play this game, and beat one of if not THE BEST FC player in Japan like it's nothing. I can't understand this as well. Was that kid even expanded upon in the VN? Imagine if he wrecked Masaya and was later all like: "meh, this game is boring", so Hinata's defeat and withdrawal from FC would get even more bitter. The kid was expanded on in the VN and also explains how he beat Masaya said kid is actually a genius (no one knew at the time) and that poses a lot of questions on geniuses in general, which I still find hard to accept as the reason but hey he's a genius so okay. |
Mar 2, 2016 8:30 PM
#69
So that woman and that girl took a helicopter to the school just to have a match to show off their techniques, and just left? What? Poor Asuka. |
Mar 2, 2016 10:39 PM
#70
Do you think those flaying shoes that Saki has gives her an unfair advantage |
Mar 3, 2016 12:32 AM
#71
That match was just brutal! D: I felt really bad for Asuka at the end since she was so excited to go against Saki |
Mar 3, 2016 7:57 AM
#72
I don't know if its actually me, but I find this anime weaker everyday. "Feels" are forced every single time. The plot, which would be interesting otherwise, is incredibly bad paced and flashback-dependent. Its characters, even being so few, would never be developed. desu desu, nyan nyan, udon udon... etc. Cliche as fuck. I just could understand and even like it, understanding a whole lot of characters (Kancolle, for example), or a whole lot of fanservice (vividred ops). But this is just the worst part of both ideas, lol. I just don't really know why am I still watching this anime. |
Mar 3, 2016 8:03 AM
#73
vampko said: I mean, I have problems with this show, but it's not for lack of Masaya screentime. Because I was well aware from the start that I shouldn't use the V/N as the basis for what I was going to see. And learned very early on (first episode) that Asuka was the MC. As much as that seems difficult for many to grasp, Masaya is, in fact, a "supporting character". Even Mashiro is more in a main character spot than him. And there's nothing wrong with that. Re-quoting this because it is 100% spot-on, and thank you for saying it. "MC" is not the main character - I also figured that out early, not first episode but probably second or third. It was pretty obvious to me once the structure started shaping up that Asuka and Tobisawa were going to get most of the focus. The writer in charge of adapting this for anime is the same person who scripted Girls und Panzer, Major, and Yowamushi Pedal. She knows how to write a sports anime. I don't know if the decision to change the focus of the anime to the girls and the sport instead of centering it around the guy came from her or the series director, but either way I'm all in favor of it. Asuka and Tobisawa are much more interesting people to hang out with for 20 minutes a week, and I've already seen too many paint-by-numbers VN adaptations fronted by Boring Player Self-Insert #3159 - if this had been another one of those I probably would have dropped it after the second episode. mozgow said: Inugirlz said: Exactly. This is both the strongest and the weakest part of it. The strongest, because no one have figured out how to deal with it. The weakest, because when someone does figure out how to deal with it, the tactic will be useless.I mean the birdcage involves risks on it's own so its not unfair. You sacrifice getting more points but simply following and mentally controlling your opponent. If you want to take that risk then you must be good. And I agree with the people saying that the tactic is not the problem (it's not against the rules) but the attitude of the girls. Yep. Control tactics are perfectly valid tactics. I was a competitive Magic: The Gathering player back in the 90s, and all of my tournament decks were designed to control what my opponent could do. When it was fully locked in, the spells my opponent could cast and even how much land they could play were controlled by me. But I never acted like I had developed some super unbeatable tactic (I knew my decks' weaknesses as thoroughly as I knew their strengths), and once I'd established a winning position I didn't drag the game out to the last card to humiliate my opponents. That's what's so irritating about these two (well, more so the second, since the player herself doesn't talk much), is that's basically the equivalent of what they're doing. This team is good enough that they don't need to beat their opponents all the way into the ground, but they do it anyway just because they can. It does make them good villains, though - it's going to feel very satisfying to see them get taken down. As far as countering this tactic goes, I can see two places to start attacking it from. One, get a faster pair of shoes than her - if she can't outrace someone and force them to take a shortcut then the whole tactic becomes useless. That's the simplest counter, but probably not an option for our heroes. Two, since this tactic also depends so much on positioning, find a way to get her out of that "above and in front" position. The key there is figuring out how she's learned to control and direct her opponent's rebound when she's repelling attacks, and devise a way to counter that, either so that she misses or so that you don't bounce off in the direction that she expects. |
Mar 3, 2016 12:27 PM
#74
Mar 3, 2016 11:35 PM
#75
animefan8800 said: FINALLY! A GOOD EPISODE AGAIN! :D That opening school portion of them chasing Misaki was adorable, and seeing Saki destroy Asuka was great! :D THAT'S what shoulda happened to Asuka at the competition! Well hopefully now that Asuka got destroyed Misaki can come back and pick up the pieces. Finally a good episode. We are getting to Masaya's backstory. He hasn't started acting as MC yet. evyyy said: Aversa said: That bird cage tactic is just cruel even Asuka got hurt because of it. Makes me wonder how they will counter is when it happens again. Inui's sempai seems to be out for it the question is what is she trying to prove? From the looks of it isn't not just her "beautiful" style or the promotion of her fathers brand. it's not just cruel man, it's scary af |
Mar 4, 2016 6:40 AM
#76
Episode fun and serious, perhaps a little too much in the end, are however sincere, I love this sudden breakthrough. I'm not happy instead of the drift that is taking the graphics, Gonzo come round! ^^" What a shame, it is already to finish the series. |
Mar 4, 2016 10:55 PM
#77
They really need to tune up Masaya's part in the series. Even though creators say he's the mc, the way he's used in the anime is like a support. They should also start working on the romance part of the anime. I was hoping that they would start on episode 8 but sadly no changes at all. Well, it was a good thing that they started working on Masaya's past story. I also believe Masaya's the only one that can beat Inui cause he's the student of the one who created the "BIRD CAGE" technique, ain't he? So maybe sensei may have taught him something that would counter the move. Also, bishoujo alert:sensei. |
Mar 5, 2016 1:28 AM
#78
That was probably the saddest ep I've watched of any animu this season ;-------------; |
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Mar 5, 2016 3:18 AM
#79
I was not prepared to see Asuka cry. This technique is too strong, because you win the match and you break the opponent. I hope Masaya will play against Inui and beat her ! |
Mar 5, 2016 5:33 AM
#80
Sakaitsu said: I was not prepared to see Asuka cry. This technique is too strong, because you win the match and you break the opponent. I hope Masaya will play against Inui and beat her ! YES PLEASE!!! O-NEGAI SHIMASU |
Mar 5, 2016 5:35 AM
#81
all of the AoKana Characters are just annoying b*tches :P |
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Mar 5, 2016 1:06 PM
#82
Mar 5, 2016 6:27 PM
#83
Is it just me or do you wanna see hinata in FC?? I think he will be badass and carve up! |
Mar 5, 2016 9:08 PM
#84
Another great episode and EPIC practice showdown! 1st half is all about Misaki's running away depression. 2nd half is pretty darn good! Inui Saki OPness! that also wrecked Asuka! now she also fell the same way as Misaki does! And I think that would make Misaki return to their FC team and let Asuka grow stronger by training with each other. Crying Asuka sadly hurts me also. 5/5! |
Mar 6, 2016 5:54 AM
#85
I'm ok with the art, the sound, the animation, characters, all of that stuff. But FC, the actual sport these people are playing is absolute nonsense. -_-; It's way beyond the point of imbalanced, and the rules (unless there are more they haven't explained because they didn't feel like it) should allow players to get away with way way way more bullshit than they've pulled out at any point in this show so far. And then there's bird cage. Everyone in the show (and a lot of the people watching) are complaining how it's so ruthless and effective. To quote the show: "Thoroughly controlling the opponent to make them exhaust themselves by flying around pointlessly, 'Birdcage' is a fitting name for that tactic." That could make sense, the problem with this, is that they're supposedly accomplishing it by having Inui fly directly above Asuka's back the entire time. First off, that's not even true if you watch them flying in the extreme long shots. Second, and more importantly, if it were true, it would tire out Inui far more, because she would need to move and turn significantly more, with far greater speed and precision than Asuka in order to actually maintain that position while they're flying. This means, that in order for Inui to control Asuka like she does, the only way is for her to be significatly better in every single way, speed, agility, everything. And at that point, it would be far more effective to just go score points and ignore Asuka, since she wouldn't be able to do anything to Inui anyway. I can see how the tactic of controlling an opponent is useful, but in this game, where controlling your opponent has to do with directing their flight in a three dimensional environment, if it's possible to do, it shouldn't be through the way they're doing it. Oh, and if Asuka's really so freaked out by Inui flying directly behind her back, why the hell didn't she just flip over and fly with her back to the water? -_-; Besides the ridiculous birdcage tactic, that whole deflection part was downright stupid. Every other time we've seen a deflection between the players, they both get pushed apart. Suddenly Inui can hit Asuka, deflecting her without receiving any recoil? Seriously, just wut? I guess physics broke. And falling into the water. How did that even happen? We've seen people blasted face first into the water and their shoes stopped them from actually going under. Suddenly Asuka just falls in. Oh yeah, physics are broken. Right. The show itself is alright, but FC is just uuuuuuugggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
Mar 6, 2016 11:18 AM
#86
That talk from the coach is kinda stupid. I mean the only reason their tactic works so well is because the girl is faster than any other player they faced until now. If she somehow meets someone who is faster than her they don't have any chance to play like that. Anyway. Why is Asuka so sad now? Firstly it was just a training match (they should be thankful to have had the chance to see the tactic before having to play against in a real match) and besides that the girl won for a reason. Did Asuka really expect to win a match against someone even better than the guy she lost to in the tournament? Get your shit together. Misaki at least had a reason to be in such a bad mood (considering she was quite arrogant about her flying skills and then got crushed by seeing how much better than her some players are, even one that just recently started playing). Pretty obvious in what direction this is going but it could be worse. The episode could have been quite interesting without the second half though. edit: oh yea. and as much as I hoped to see Masaya as a player in the beginning I start to doubt we will see that in the anime (does it ever happen in the source? Would be really nice but the way this went thus far makes it look like he really is done with FC forever.) |
NanashiMar 6, 2016 11:25 AM
Mar 7, 2016 7:27 AM
#87
Glad to see some Masaya and Misaki bonding time, even though we kind of already knew his backstory ... I guess he was beat by Shindou and used that as an excuse to quit huh? I guess once you get really good the pressure just builds up and he couldn't deal with it ... Anyway Saki was just playing with them, though it seems like Irina is the one who's really the mastermind behind it all. I mean, just tiring your opponent out is another way of winning ... and I guess even Asuka can't stay positive after a defeat like that. Hmm, I wonder if Misaki will join the team again though? We shall see ... :O |
Mar 7, 2016 7:35 AM
#88
Asuka's crying face was sad :( I don't hate Irina for some reason tho. Her talking style is fun to listen to :3 |
Mar 7, 2016 12:42 PM
#89
Nanashi said: Anyway. Why is Asuka so sad now? Firstly it was just a training match (they should be thankful to have had the chance to see the tactic before having to play against in a real match) and besides that the girl won for a reason. Did Asuka really expect to win a match against someone even better than the guy she lost to in the tournament? Get your shit together. Misaki at least had a reason to be in such a bad mood (considering she was quite arrogant about her flying skills and then got crushed by seeing how much better than her some players are, even one that just recently started playing). This is my thoughts on it. And judging from how many of theses posts are all QQ-ing about how Asuka is so sad and they feel bad for her just shows that the producers are forcing the drama and shoving Asuka into our faces way too much. That aside, Birdcage is indeed a legit technique to use. Yeah, it can be a little rough on the weak minded people, but if they end up trying to use it on someone faster or someone that's strong willed or maybe even more endurance, that tactic is going down the drain. Not to mention how fucking boring it is to watch. It'd rather watch more zipzap and point scoring than a goddamn stand-still bully match. |
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Mar 7, 2016 1:53 PM
#90
okay...now i'm getting pissed off with that kind of play too... i think it's better for her to just stand still. let her attack first rather she take the bait. because the main point of that tactic is humiliation imo. so if you take the bait that's the end of the game for ya, but if she want to win i think she need to calm down and let her attack first. well, since the opponent already took 1 point, Asuka will obviously lose but .... i mean, who cares ? this is just a game....just choose....you lose or you get humiliated.....if she desn't mind she plays with that kind of opponent then okay....let's just have fun but she looked really sad after she suddenly fell into the sea. btw, wtf with that ? how can she fell ? that is weird to me tho.... overall....this episode is kinda pissed me of because i expected that Asuka will not give any fuck if she lose of get humiliated but after that match, she looked sad so it's a little bit pissed me off because of that. i'm not angry to asuka btw :) |
YizelTroMar 7, 2016 1:59 PM
Mar 7, 2016 3:33 PM
#91
Tevens said: okay...now i'm getting pissed off with that kind of play too... i think it's better for her to just stand still. let her attack first rather she take the bait. because the main point of that tactic is humiliation imo. so if you take the bait that's the end of the game for ya, but if she want to win i think she need to calm down and let her attack first. well, since the opponent already took 1 point, Asuka will obviously lose but .... i mean, who cares ? this is just a game....just choose....you lose or you get humiliated.....if she desn't mind she plays with that kind of opponent then okay....let's just have fun but she looked really sad after she suddenly fell into the sea. btw, wtf with that ? how can she fell ? that is weird to me tho.... overall....this episode is kinda pissed me of because i expected that Asuka will not give any fuck if she lose of get humiliated but after that match, she looked sad so it's a little bit pissed me off because of that. i'm not angry to asuka btw :) She was to hyped up. Still I don't understand how come she turned that way lol with all this nonsense where she was all motivated and saw Inui flying as beautiful 2 episodes ago... |
Mar 8, 2016 9:41 AM
#92
The first half was a lack luster. Things got interesting; rather tense towards the end. what a grand entrance tho. Irina sure likes to show off and brag. I won't blame Asuka for crying; rather that will help her get over her devastating defeat. So it is a good thing she cried. That play style just instill such depair in you that you can't help it. And the way those two do it is certainly? against the sportsmanship. It is a sport not a death dual. Toying with your opponenet is not very sports like. |
HijaziMar 8, 2016 9:48 AM
Mar 10, 2016 12:56 PM
#93
Hijazi said: The first half was a lack luster. Things got interesting; rather tense towards the end. what a grand entrance tho. Irina sure likes to show off and brag. I won't blame Asuka for crying; rather that will help her get over her devastating defeat. So it is a good thing she cried. That play style just instill such depair in you that you can't help it. And the way those two do it is certainly? against the sportsmanship. It is a sport not a death dual. Toying with your opponenet is not very sports like. Asuka will be traumatic because this defeats, and Misaki will rescue her |
Mar 11, 2016 8:54 AM
#94
Obviously Inui was gonna win this. >.> Then like every sane sports anime, Asuka is going to win in the last episode Ugh, why? So much for my Visual Novel adaptation... Lmao what a great tactic though. Damn, she fell into the ocean. Lmao Why would you cry like that though? |
Mar 12, 2016 11:09 AM
#95
Mar 12, 2016 4:26 PM
#96
Yup, that's right. |
Mar 20, 2016 6:23 PM
#97
Great episode, but goddamn that oher team was really pissing me off! |
Mar 26, 2016 7:15 AM
#98
kyle8998 said: That was just brutal...... This. It was painful to watch. |
Apr 19, 2016 8:51 PM
#99
Sad ending, ran into her limit. |
May 7, 2016 8:31 AM
#100
Inui and that other tactics coach were so arrogant and rude. It's like they just came to show off and who knows if they challenged other schools besides the one Asuka is in. It was tough to see Asuka so helpless and not able to fend off Inui's birdcage tactic. Asuka even fell into the sea and couldn't connect her last air kick turn. 1st half of the episode was funny, liked the background music during the stop Misaki stuff. |
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