Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans Episode 5 Discussion

Stevewonder07 said:
This was a great episode. I need to watch more gundam. This is my first. I got a question though. Why don't they want to give Mars independence? I think I'm lost wit the politics in this anime. Can someone explain?

Evillordexdeath said:
You'd think they would've seen Todo's betrayal coming. I mean, he's even got a Hitler 'stache.

cupc said:
Damn, some excellent action this episode. Really loving the rivalry they are shaping between the Tekkadan and the Empire of the Blue Men.

THE LEGENDARY GUNDAM. this scene gave me chills

cupc said:

Also this ending was so good lmao

Evillordexdeath said:
You'd think they would've seen Todo's betrayal coming. I mean, he's even got a Hitler 'stache.

shanimebib said:


Chocolate Aznable, I mean "man" was referring to the Gundam used during the Calamity War and other points of history in 'their universe'. It has nothing to do with any other Gundam.

That reminds me, yet to watch Origin episode 2! Damn!

Turn A Gundam has been cited by Director Tomino and other sources as a show that would unify the stories from the various Gundam series into one.[1][6] Throughout the show,mobile suits resembling those from the eras depicted in previous Gundam shows and indicated to be preserved by nano machines for thousands of years, including as those of the Universal Century, are excavated by the show's various factions. In Episode 43, this plotline comes to a culmination as the history of the Correct Century timeline is shown in a collection of clips known as the Dark History (黒歴史 Kuro Rekishi?), which is revealed to be events that took place in different Gundam series prior to Turn A Gundam, thus making those events part of the Correct Century timeline's history.[7]
The book 2001 Correct Century, A Bibliographical Study of "Dark History", printed in black pages in front of the Universal Century Gundam Officials Encyclopedia, is supposedly uncovered by a fictional Lecturer in Black History named Yokk Wakk Onimott during Correct Century 1993. Onimott spends two years to fix the broken pages, five years to interpret the language, and a year to find a publisher. He states that the book was first printed around 3,000 years ago by the Rhea branch of the Earth Federation Government University. Included in the book is a picture drawn by Kunio Okawara showing a mobile suit supposed to be MS-04 as a S.U.I.T. project of the Zeon forces in UC0072~0075. It supposedly was found in 1993 Correct Century in the mountain cycle Library A-a. The white page introduction by another fictional writer, Minaka Junkers, an economy assistant professor of the Rhea branch of the Earth Federation Government University, states the book was published in UC0100 to celebrate the Centennial anniversary of the Universal Century. Thus it is officially claimed that the Universal Century is a time before Correct Century, possibly around 3,000 years before the story of Turn A begins.[8]
However, later sources would greatly increase the time frame between the two. The official English Gundam.info Archives website, created by Sunrise, describes Correct Century as, "similar to early 20th Century America, but is actually set tens of thousands of in the distant future and incorporates every Universal Century and Another Gundam timeline that ever existed."[9] The manual for the Master Grade Turn X gunpla, released in June 2014, would further explain the Dark History as the original Mobile Suit Gundam marking the beginning of humanity's space age, and Turn A as the final result, with all other Gundam series, including those that were produced prior to Turn A: G Gundam, Gundam Wing, and Gundam X, and those produced after: Gundam SEED, Gundam 00, and Gundam AGE, taking place in the tens of thousands of years in between the two shows.[10]

komet3 said:
1. Call Orga the oracle he predicted everything with relative ease
2. So the girls are ending up riding Mika. Ok? my man is getting the only bitches on the ship
3. I see Eugene doing something else than complain. finally.
4. Opening is great
5. The "whatever" system, I can never remember the name, can outclass actually soldiers in a one on one fight? Seems legit
6. The power of imagination really pays off in some cases
7. The greatest way to get rid of a traitor I have seen in a while great job guys... great job

RayAdha said:

Still don't understand why the subber uses "Alaya-Vijnana" instead of "Arayashiki" like the characters within the anime always say. The latter is easier to remember and say.

ex_necross said:
So in addition to other hints from previous episodes (such as Operation British having happened), after McGillis' dialogue this episode we pretty much confirmed UC now baby.

shanimebib said:


What are you even saying?! The spearhead hammer looks bloody awesome. It makes you think about sheer raw power, something very brutal and barbaric, alike the name and design of Barbatos.

Stevewonder07 said:
This was a great episode. I need to watch more gundam. This is my first. I got a question though. Why don't they want to give Mars independence? I think I'm lost wit the politics in this anime. Can someone explain?

Zadion said:

I'm a bit confused on the characters' motivations and politics as well though. Why do they want Kudelia back so badly? Is her going to earth really such a terrible thing for Gjallarhorn that Coral would even have her killed to ensure it doesn't happen? I understand they are opposed to Martian independence for whatever the reason, and I understand the lengths they'll go through to ensure their welfare maintains what it is, but this seems a tad extreme to me. Maybe I'm missing or forgetting something, but from my understanding she's just going there to promote Martian independence. It's not like her arrival on earth suddenly guarantees it.

And what is Gjallarhorn exactly, anyway? They seem to be an organization completely detached from earth's four economic blocs, so who are they and what is their motive?

There's a lot of detail and a lot going on to the point I feel I should be rewatching the episodes.

Zadion said:
Thank GOD Coral is dead. Fareed makes for a much more interesting antagonist than that smug ****. I fully expected them to drag his life clock out considerably further than they did, so to see Coral be killed and the episode move on without even mentioning it again was both surprising and awesome.

The best part of the series so far is that it acknowledges the penalties of battle; not just in cost, but in lives. I'm surprised even this many named characters have died already, to be honest.

I'm a bit confused on the characters' motivations and politics as well though. Why do they want Kudelia back so badly? Is her going to earth really such a terrible thing for Gjallarhorn that Coral would even have her killed to ensure it doesn't happen? I understand they are opposed to Martian independence for whatever the reason, and I understand the lengths they'll go through to ensure their welfare maintains what it is, but this seems a tad extreme to me. Maybe I'm missing or forgetting something, but from my understanding she's just going there to promote Martian independence. It's not like her arrival on earth suddenly guarantees it.

And what is Gjallarhorn exactly, anyway? They seem to be an organization completely detached from earth's four economic blocs, so who are they and what is their motive?

There's a lot of detail and a lot going on to the point I feel I should be rewatching the episodes.

TripleSRank said:

Gjallarhorn is the organization that set up the four economic blocs at the end of the Calamity War. In a treaty that follow shortly after the four blocs' creation, Gjallarhorn was given executive control over Mars. In other words, they're the ones who police and enforce laws on Mars. If Mars becomes independent, their role in world affairs diminishes greatly-- not to mention the massive amount of money they could lose.

While Kudelia arriving on Earth doesn't guarantee Mars's freedom, apparently the political climate on Earth is such that it's too big of a risk to allow to happen. It is worth noting that Fareed and Bauduin want to take her alive, though: Coral was just trying to kill her so he could blackmail Fareed/Bauduin to cover up all the military resources he lost in trying to destroy the (former) CGS. Her death would be considered their fault since they were part of the operation, meaning they would have reason to try to cover up what happened/how it happened. (Of course, they wouldn't necessarily have given in to the blackmail, which is what I would suspect given what we've seen of each's character, but that was Coral's plan, in any case.)

TripleSRank said:

Did I mention the whole cast is actually likable?

Tokoya said:
From now on I will refer to Fareed as "The Chocolate Man" LMFAOOOOO

I really like how they're seemingly pushing Mika x Aina and that little moment that they had in the beginning was too sweet.....Atra joining the crew as expected but that only raises her death flag even more lol

Gotta say though, I'm glad that Orga and the gang saw through the setup and was able to out maneuver everyone as well as to FINALLY KILL THAT STUPID IDIOT CORAL...Man I am loving how this series gives all the jerks what's coming to them

The battle scenes were great and I must say that Mika held his own even though he kinda got owned from Fareed but I'm glad that the battle went that way...Speaking of Fareed and his friend, I like how calculative they were and props to Fareed for figuring out how to fight Mika and keep him at an disadvantage

However, I gotta give extra props to my boy Akihiro (When he piloted Cranks' machine I was like OH SHIT LOL) and Eugene for going in and saving the day like they did

The ending was fucking hilarious LOLOLOLOLOL And man this is why I LOVE Fareed, he has such a great personality and sense of humor and I was just laughing and smiling along with him xD Serves that traitor right though, seeing him get pummeled from the crew was enough for me to smile =P

Great episode as usual even though the budget clearly wasn't here for the most part lol.....And I also like how they have the Gundam in a database (I'm guessing this will be the key to finding the others) and I LOVED how this series pretty much mentioned every other Gundam series as well with that whole short "History of Gundam" thing that Chocolate Man spoke of

Fortress_Maximus said:

Done

bastek66 said:
Kudelia's suit+shorts with pantyhose reminded me Jaime from Argevollen. Also, I'm afraid Guts won't survive this anime.