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Dec 4, 2014 12:51 PM

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Dragic1 said:
That forced clapping from Mika was gold.


Her entire character is comedy gold
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Dec 4, 2014 12:52 PM

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Lol at the end. Tougane Killed her mother O_O

To be accurate Akane's Grandmother.

Oh yeah my bad. fixed.
Dec 4, 2014 12:52 PM

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I'm in this strange position I'm not finding anything interesting about Kamui but I love all the situations he's set up. It just feels like hes detached from them though but that may be the intent since he's been like a bystander at all of them.
Dec 4, 2014 12:56 PM

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Mika alive, looks like I spoke too soon.

Oh, burtal Togane is just brutal.
Dec 4, 2014 12:57 PM

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While I'm still interested and want to finish it, this season really hasn't enthralled me like the first one did. Part of that may be that I'm legitimately confused about half of the plot in this one (like the bit about Kamui using the "important people" in society and also the deal with the illegal aliens/holos--all of it is going over my head). But I also agree that Kamui is such a flat villain. He's just kind of an annoyance. Whereas with Makishima, I hated him but I also loved him.

The bit with the humans turned into animals was pretty messed up though. Also the puppies whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

I really want Kogami to show up. Sad that this season didn't show him and whatever he's been doing, even if it was separate from Akane's story.

Two episodes left. Guess we'll see how it finishes out.
Dec 4, 2014 1:02 PM

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Idiot Mika and now we can see why they made Akane's grandma earring shine so much when she first appeared
Dec 4, 2014 1:06 PM

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Tougane just needs to die. Especially what he did to those dogs when he was younger he is so fucked up in the head.
But the one thing you don't do is mess with Grandma and I hope this fucker pays a price courtesy of Akane who showed some fan service.
Dec 4, 2014 1:12 PM

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Poor grandma, but I don't feel sorry at all for Akane............
Dec 4, 2014 1:13 PM

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dede_rich said:
While I'm still interested and want to finish it, this season really hasn't enthralled me like the first one did. Part of that may be that I'm legitimately confused about half of the plot in this one (like the bit about Kamui using the "important people" in society and also the deal with the illegal aliens/holos--all of it is going over my head). But I also agree that Kamui is such a flat villain. He's just kind of an annoyance. Whereas with Makishima, I hated him but I also loved him.

^same for me. Makishima couldn't have been more wrong about his ideals, but at least spawned a change in Akane for the better.

I'm still a little duped on why Mika hates Akane so much.. Mika's an intelligent young lady, and if she could manage to get along with Akane, they'd make a pretty good team. Sometimes I think the creators did it for the sake of making season 2 more interesting.
*and nothing else
Dec 4, 2014 1:16 PM

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Where the fuck are you Kougami?? We need you to hurry the fuck up!
Dec 4, 2014 1:22 PM

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So the guy that works with Kamui and gave Akane her grandmother's ear also works with togane?

This means there are three possibilities:

1) Togane works with Kamui and spies on Sibyl for him
2) Kamui's friend works with Togane/Sibyl
3) Kamui himself works with Sibyl
Dec 4, 2014 1:23 PM

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the animal cruelty in this episode made me sick.
And Mika...what a creepy girl.

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Dec 4, 2014 1:29 PM

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just when i thought things couldn't get worse. i wonder how akane will react and what her psycho pass will be now


Dec 4, 2014 1:30 PM
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Damn, two more episodes to go. I really need to see an ending where Sibyl crumbles down.
Dec 4, 2014 1:35 PM

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Tareqguy said:
So the guy that works with Kamui and gave Akane her grandmother's ear also works with togane?

This means there are three possibilities:

1) Togane works with Kamui and spies on Sibyl for him
2) Kamui's friend works with Togane/Sibyl
3) Kamui himself works with Sibyl

By the look of things PP2 is definitely leaning towards 3. Wouldn't be surprised if the next few episodes lead up to this.
Dec 4, 2014 1:42 PM
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shimotzuka broke or maybe i should say its her usual self because no matter if she thinks somethings wrong as long as the sybil system says its right then she will obey. poor grandma. i was wondering how kamui and his people got the ear and do they know that the people from the sybil system helped them or not.
Dec 4, 2014 1:46 PM

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I'm sure Kougami's help would be much appreciated right about now xD
Dec 4, 2014 1:48 PM

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did they just really play nessun dorma in this episode?



Dec 4, 2014 1:52 PM

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Kougami pls your time has come.
Dec 4, 2014 1:52 PM

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destonyDbaby said:
did they just really play nessun dorma in this episode?

it was amazing...


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dede_rich said:
While I'm still interested and want to finish it, this season really hasn't enthralled me like the first one did. Part of that may be that I'm legitimately confused about half of the plot in this one (like the bit about Kamui using the "important people" in society and also the deal with the illegal aliens/holos--all of it is going over my head). But I also agree that Kamui is such a flat villain. He's just kind of an annoyance. Whereas with Makishima, I hated him but I also loved him.

^same for me. Makishima couldn't have been more wrong about his ideals, but at least spawned a change in Akane for the better.

I'm still a little duped on why Mika hates Akane so much.. Mika's an intelligent young lady, and if she could manage to get along with Akane, they'd make a pretty good team. Sometimes I think the creators did it for the sake of making season 2 more interesting.
*and nothing else


are you kidding? do you even understand mika's character at all? She hates akane because she doesn't always follow the rules and shit which she has to do. Thats why she is not doing anything about togane even though it sickens her. Because he is the rules.
Dec 4, 2014 1:54 PM
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Guys this anime will have 11 episodes?So it will end in 2 weeks and movie will be the finale?Maybe they make 22 episodes too?Maybe if Movie is prequel to episode 12 or somethin?
anyway 5/5 of this episode, things are gettin real now.
Dec 4, 2014 1:55 PM

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Nice episode, I want to see what Mika will do.
Noooooooo grandma!
Dec 4, 2014 1:55 PM

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DhmhtrhsK said:
Guys this anime will have 11 episodes?So it will end in 2 weeks and movie will be the finale?Maybe they make 22 episodes too?Maybe if Movie is prequel to episode 12 or somethin?
anyway 5/5 of this episode, things are gettin real now.


nope, episode 11 is the finale. The movie is its own story
Dec 4, 2014 1:56 PM

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Of course the grandmother would die. Very obvious. She had no importance besides being close to Akane. So that was predictable.

Now for Kamui, the die is cast. I think the Sibyl System also cast its die. (When I say cast the "die" I mean "death") Let's see what happens. Hopefully, Kogami comes last episode, wrecks everybody, and leaves
Dec 4, 2014 1:58 PM

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I really liked the conversations between Kamui and his friend. Sometimes it felt as if the dude was talking to all the kids that died in the plane crash, instead of just Kamui (and he kinda was).
Dec 4, 2014 2:00 PM
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Szadek23 said:
Another terrible episode.I would drop the show if it wasn't so funny.
The writer took every villain cliche he could think of and put them in this episode,all that's missing is stealing candy from a baby.

I was right about the Grandmother.She was just there to be killed.
If she had more than 40 secunds of screentime I might actually give a shit.

So it is possible to track dominators inside buildings. Also Sibyl doesn't give a shit that the same person uses like 8 dominators at once,

Mika somehow got even more despicable in this episode.

Kamui keeps telling them his plans for no fucking reason and keeps killing people we don't know or care about,


Well, if that's how much attention you pay to the show, it's clear for me why you don't like it.
For example, Sibyl can't do anything to Shisui's dominator if she has a clear Psycho Pass. If Sibyl did that, it would be accepting it's own flaws. It's what was explained this episode, the omnipotence paradox. Can Sibyl judge himself? If the system judges itself, it's not perfect anymore.
Anyway, try not to be so hard on a series that you don't even try to understand.
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Great episode, I wonder if Togane is somehow helping Kamui (given he has Akane's grandma) or if he's using them to make Akane angry enough to kill Kamui.
Dec 4, 2014 2:13 PM

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LucasMV said:
Well, if that's how much attention you pay to the show, it's clear for me why you don't like it.
For example, Sibyl can't do anything to Shisui's dominator if she has a clear Psycho Pass. If Sibyl did that, it would be accepting it's own flaws. It's what was explained this episode, the omnipotence paradox. Can Sibyl judge himself? If the system judges itself, it's not perfect anymore.
Anyway, try not to be so hard on a series that you don't even try to understand.

The explains makes no sense,because Kasei already admitted to akane in season 1 that the system is flawed.
Dec 4, 2014 2:25 PM

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Well... i'm gonna start off by saying "Fuck you Mika".

K thats over with.

The best part of this episode was Akane Tsunemori half nude coming out of the shower. She.Is.So.Cute.Holy.Shit.

Yeah i love her cuz her eyes and voice are so cute and so contradictory. Just like Kuroneko.

Anyways, wow... thats some messed up childhood of Tougane. What a surprise dinner too... damn

Them animals... are really freaky... can't they move or escape? Why do they just stand there and get burned? Maybe its caged or something...

Finally as for that last scene... poor Akane. Poor grandmother. Man... that... would be enough to drive anyone cuckoo. Once again thanks to that bitch Mika, yeah fuck her.

Revenge time Akane. Do it.

5/5. Akane best girl.
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Dec 4, 2014 2:26 PM
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LucasMV said:
Well, if that's how much attention you pay to the show, it's clear for me why you don't like it.
For example, Sibyl can't do anything to Shisui's dominator if she has a clear Psycho Pass. If Sibyl did that, it would be accepting it's own flaws. It's what was explained this episode, the omnipotence paradox. Can Sibyl judge himself? If the system judges itself, it's not perfect anymore.
Anyway, try not to be so hard on a series that you don't even try to understand.

The explains makes no sense,because Kasei already admitted to akane in season 1 that the system is flawed.


One thing is to admit it to someone who already know's the truth behind it, like Akane. But Sibyl doesn't want to admit that it has flaws and that there are irregularities that it can't manage. That's why it just can't do anything more than what it's doing.
If Sibyl can't judge itself and also if it CAN judge itself, in both cases it ceases to be perfect. Probably the other solution to the paradox is what Sibyl needs to do to protect itself from Kamui's actions. We'll have to wait and see.
Dec 4, 2014 2:41 PM

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Loved the episode and the concept of Omnipotent Paradox..Had a similar discussion about Marvel's "omnipotent" characters

Sybil wants to keep perfection yet it can't it won't judge itself.. Judging those it knows it can while anomalies are ignored or purposely set up in situations to try and make their hue clouded aka Akane.. However in doing so it's contradicting their laws rendering them omnipotent.. So in Sybil's eyes getting rid of people like Kamui and Akane would maintain their perfect record.. A God who couldn't lift the heavy rock made it lighter so he could lift it.. "Preserving" his "omnipotence"

Also Kamui>Makishima

Like anti heroes over pretentious "evulz"
Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM

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deanzel said:
Mika be:



More like Tyrannosaurus Wrecked

Edit: Oh wait...SORRY xD I'm tired
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Dec 4, 2014 2:57 PM

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LucasMV said:
One thing is to admit it to someone who already know's the truth behind it, like Akane. But Sibyl doesn't want to admit that it has flaws and that there are irregularities that it can't manage. That's why it just can't do anything more than what it's doing.

Everyone involved in the case can the see the flaw,because civilians are using dominators.
The system would look way less imcompetent if they would do something about this.
They could easily explain it with a new security upgrade or something.
Once again I point at season 1.They upgraded the system,because Makishima found a loophole with his helmets.
Why can't they do something similar now?
Dec 4, 2014 2:58 PM

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lilypippili said:
Kinda confused, what was the surprise dinner? Why'd it freak them out so much? And what was so bad about the animals?


They were holograms of people's brain/intestines/etc.

The animals were also holograms of people.
Dec 4, 2014 3:09 PM

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why do they want to cloud Akane's hue, im confused. Does Sibyl view her as a threat and want to get rid of her even though shes working for them? They decided to leave her alone and give her power in their system in season 1 and she herself decided that she would protect sibyl instead of siding with Makishima in season 1.

Also how did the doctor die? If he was working with Kamui a dominator shouldnt have worked because he should have had a clear hue. Also Akane's grandma was calm as fk when she saw Togane. They wouldn't put her in the hospital if she had hue problems. Dominator shouldn't have killed either.
Dec 4, 2014 3:26 PM

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every episode someone is vomiting lmfao

i don't even understand their motivations for trying to cloud Akane's psycho pass. This show makes no sense `-` If anything Kamui should be the biggest threat to Sibyl; not Akane. She is complacent with the system and a model inspector. What else could you ask for? Togane just wants to cloud her hue just b/c he's fucking crazy.
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Dec 4, 2014 3:27 PM

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TheGrandSage23 said:

Also Kamui>Makishima

Like anti heroes over pretentious "evulz"

I like Makishima better. Even though Kamui has a motive for what hes doing and can see his plan through every episode and Makishima just played around alot, Makishima got hella alotve more screen time probably cause season 1 is longer and He wanted to fk with sibyl...aka Akane and Makishima's first meeting. I liked seeing what he was gonna do next. He interested me with his behavior.

Kamui has a more deep motive but like i said they portray him as a ghost for a little bit. we are wondering who he is. He is going up against the government basically and is keeping a low profile which is much more realistic then Makishima. Plus we have all have Sibyl doing their own thing while Kamui is doing his thing in only 11 episodes. Im guessing i would have liked season 2 to be a little longer because i feel like too much takes away from Kamui for me to enjoy him as a character...havent seen much action from him.

And im not comparing season 1 and 2 just how they portray the 2 main Antagonists
Dec 4, 2014 3:29 PM

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Mrameez said:

Remember in season one, Sibyl can overwrite the functions of a dominator, the inspector(sibly) did it in season 1, so it's probably the same reason why.
Although they left Akane alone, they kept monitoring her with Tougane and it seems he wants to cloud her hue and sibly agred.


I dont remember that at all lol i might need to rewatch it thanks
Dec 4, 2014 3:38 PM

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That's fucking brutal, also that random ass Nessun Dorma.
Dec 4, 2014 3:39 PM
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I just noticed it says on Tougane's page that he's like 41. Sorry but he looks no older than 35. This anime has lost all credibility ... lol yeah it already had no credibility.
Dec 4, 2014 3:40 PM

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Suzie said:
I just noticed it says on Tougane's page that he's like 41. Sorry but he looks no older than 35. This anime has lost all credibility ... lol yeah it already had no credibility.


If we are talking about anime losing their credibility because of characters not looking their age there would be none left.
Dec 4, 2014 3:41 PM

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Makishima was a much better villain and more interesting character than this Kamui conglomerate.

At the start of the episode Mika realized she got into something way over her head and is willing to say anything to save her life. She's obviously not being sincere and idk why the villains there let her get away with it.

Killing puppies is pretty disgusting but it does not constitute criminal tendencies in of itself. Under the right circumstances, an adult could make a child to that and make it look acceptable without a child realizing a thing.
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LucasMV said:

One thing is to admit it to someone who already know's the truth behind it, like Akane. But Sibyl doesn't want to admit that it has flaws and that there are irregularities that it can't manage. That's why it just can't do anything more than what it's doing.

Yes it can, the one eyed inspector haven't been following protocol, so suspend her access to the dominator until she return to HQ, and deliver reports of those she have "judged". There are no reason for Sibyl to admit flaw in its system, when it can easily deal with the situation without drawing in a mistake in psycho pass. Whats more there are no reason why a person can use more than one dominator at the same time, and even worse program it so those two entries can be separated geographical. Unless Kamui work together with Sibyl they have huge flaw in its plot, that happened for convenience reason and the writer not knowing anything about coding. Worse part is that it should classify it as a bug/security hole and just fix it, since it is indeed a bug in the way access to dominator are granted from a server perspective. If this is suppose to be a Sci-fi it shouldn't be less advanced in technology, than we are at the present :-/

Edit: I should probably point out that this isn't just once, watching the way they handled the drone problem, where everyone who were computer people did the most retarded ever, that made me want to do such a hard face palm my hand went trough my head and smashed my brain all over the wall.
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Also Sibyl doesn't give a shit that the same person uses like 8 dominators at once
There is never enough dakka.

Can someone explain what's the point of the plot ? I understand the motives of Kamui, but wtf is wrong with Sybil ? They know Kamui wants to somehow destroy Sybil, but the best thing they can do is to mess with their inspectors along with the enemy. It's like, you're sieged in a castle, and you destroy your own walls just because it's funny.


Sybil is just being evil just because. New PP writers don't understand the core principles/themes of this show.

Most of the season 1 ideas were just thrown out the window. season 1 sybil was a "morally gray but not evil" SYSTEM that was only shown to break the rules for self-preservation of its secret (when they killed Enforcer Shusei). While Sybil had certain huge flaws (unable to judge a small percent of criminally asymptomatic people & judging proximity/exposure to crime as crime), it still made kinda sense for a society to adopt it.

I feel like season 1 was stronger because sybil was a morally ambiguous SYSTEM. It simply imposed a set of rules that guided the real characters' actions. Despite being brains comprised of criminally asymptomatic people, sybil only did two actions in that season (express a desire to capture Makishima and eliminate people who discovered its secret). These two actions fall into line with sybil's overall protocol & design. The show was about how society unfolds & how characters act within this universe with such judgement system in place.

In season 2, Sybil is not just the "rules of this world," but rather an actual CHARACTER... an evil CHARACTER. However, the writers forgot that characters must have a personality and motivations. Then, the character acts logically according those those things.

Sybil is shown in this season to manipulate electronics/whatever to kill all opposition & random innocent bystanders in the season of hell, allowing unethical experiments to create AA people (don't see the point to this at all), trying to color its own inspectors black (god knows why), and telling random people its huge secret. Sybil's actions no longer have any real purpose or point, but its just doing evil things just so it establishes itself as a super bad guy. (in case any viewers were dumb enough in season 1 not to see the huge unethical problems with a system like sybil)

Doesn't logically make any sense for a powerful system like Sybil to resort to ...lol... traffic accidents to stop an opposition judgement program. Don't even see how those two things even relate at all. Don't see the point of making AA people as they occur naturally. Don't see the point of corrupting and terminating its own loyal employees that are actively advancing Sybil's goals. Don't see the point of telling Mika everything when she has not shown any potential at all besides being able to google stuff & bitch.

The point is that there really is no point or logic to sybil's actions anymore. It is just being evil because the writers.

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It's only me or this second season is crap? In my opinion they try to reach the audience with a lot of unnecessary violence, don't get me wrong I don't mind some kills here and there, but I miss the vibe it gave me the first season. I can't find any characters development and the psychological side is kinda lacking too.

The idea wasn't that bad, "what's your colour?", but I don't know...


Exactly. This season is just information dumps or contrived situations for twists/shock value. Absolutely no character development at all.

Season 1 was cool because you see the characters develop and act within this weird sci-fi setting. The gore/murders/shocks/twists were interesting because how it changed the characters that we cared about. It has about the characters... not the twists. Season 2 is all about playing around the established rules of the universe to make it seem like interesting & cool twists when its really just dumb contrived scenarios that are making less & less sense and becoming more & more unbelievable.

Main villian #1 Kamui is 184 dead people stitched together... this somehow arbitrarily makes him invisible to scanners... he holds a grudge at sybil because sybil caused traffic accidents. Has the super power to clear psycho passes due to surgery. Has a crew of illegal aliens who look like higher ups from organ transplants that allow him to do everything from complex surgery, advanced holo programming, expert hacking, and mad drug/therapy skills. main villian #2 sybil + togane has the main focus of wanting to corrupt all their own inspectors for no real good reason & seem pretty apathetic to kamui.

Let's not have any character development & kill a bunch of randoms for shock value. Kill off a bunch of Inspectors/Enforcers that we don't know anything about at the drone factory. Kill off a bunch of 'evil' Kamui cohorts at a dinner that we don't know anything about. Introduce token grandmother with no real meaningful character interaction with akane just to kill off for shock value.
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mfw they kill the puppies


That was too fucking brutal for me, forget the burning people at the end, that fuck deserves to be fucking castrated then steamed alive for the puppy murders
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I'll never understand why or how people put other creatures like dogs over humans. -_-
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Ahaha! Damn. This has finally reached hilarious level of bad.
And they threw all the priciples, that had been established in the first season, out of the window, so their world's consistency is almost at zero.

...and I seriously thought at first that they wanted to introduce the Panopticon as an alternative to Sybil in order to have discussion over different brands of control. Silly me.
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Nice job Tougane you granny killer.

Akane has nice body.
I have a feeling that it would change her color still.

Two episodes left hype

Mika is still bitch
Dec 4, 2014 4:25 PM
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LucasMV said:

Well, if that's how much attention you pay to the show, it's clear for me why you don't like it.
For example, Sibyl can't do anything to Shisui's dominator if she has a clear Psycho Pass. If Sibyl did that, it would be accepting it's own flaws. It's what was explained this episode, the omnipotence paradox. Can Sibyl judge himself? If the system judges itself, it's not perfect anymore.
Anyway, try not to be so hard on a series that you don't even try to understand.


as other people have said, season 1 sybil recognized it had flaws. sybil was shown in season 1 not to really care about whether it lived up to an "ideal judgement system without any flaws" as sybil will bend the rules when it suited it. this was demonstrated by the times that it overwritten non-lethal mode into lethal mode despite the psycho pass numbers in order to advance its own goals.

Turning off Shisui's multiple dominators is not really such an inconceivable thing considering shisui is no longer operating under MWPS's jurisdiction so she should no longer be considered an inspector. Only authorized inspectors can use dominators. compound it with the fact that there are multiple shisui's identities registering in different locations makes it obvious the system has been compromised & turning off the stolen dominators makes perfect logical sense.

this episode also showed that yes, you can in fact track a dominator... and omg why didn't they track it sooner. please don't give me that you can only track a dominator when it is being fired as every time a dominator sees a target the sybil system must be able to see the target as well in order to judge the target's psycho pass number. so even if there was no passive gps in the unit, every time kamui or shisui pointed the dominator at someone, sybil knows where they are. also, during the drone fight scene, the computers clearly showed they were able to passively track the multiple shisui dominators despite not being fired or locked onto a target.

omnipotence paradox is silly. sibyl cannot judge itself because it is comprised of criminally asymptomatic people, which are by definition people that sibyl cannot judge. sibyl's actions should logically be geared towards self-preservation & maintenance of status quo... not philosophical musing about whether it is omnipotent. sibyl never claimed to be omnipotent & unflawed.
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I wonder if the Grandma is really dead though, I thought he just knocked her out with the Dominator. Never really crossed my mind that he actually killed her. Why cut her ear off and not finish her right then and there? I'm thinking he's keeping her alive to torture Akane just a bit more. But who knows, I guess we will find out in the next episode just exactly happened.


Shit and still no Kogami, I was really hoping he would make at least a brief appearance in S2, but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.

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RIP Akane's grandmother, (Don't know if she is dead but I see Tougane smashed her with Dominator hard in Post-Credit and yet she smile? Her hue is clear like Akane) When all things happen they should move her to safe place for some reason. Tougane is pissed me off and bitch Mika is fucked up.
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