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Jun 13, 2015 5:08 PM

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Nanashi- said:
shit Mika is so goddamn annoying. Sure, humans are using Yu but he doesn't actually belief he isn't used by the vampires, does he? It's like the one who is obviously used doesn't think so and the one who is used in secret doesn't even notice it.

without Mika this would actually be enjoyable


Mika's actually right. And no, he knows perfectly how vampires are. He states on the manga he hates both vampires and humans. He hasnt forgotten what vampires did to his family and what they did to him and he knows what the humans did: the humans did terrible experiments on children, guess who? the whole hyakuya orphanage was nothing but a mere gather of children for them to put the Seraph of the end and Yuu was the sucessful one.
Mika is annoying for saying out loud the thruth and for wanting to take Yuu away from all this shit? wow, last time I checked that isnt being annoying but that is being the best of friends. If it wasnt for Mika, Shinoa would be dust by now and Yuu would go berserk with her death. Mika just wants to protect Yuu no matter what. Vampires are bad but humans aren´t good at all.

ワンダーランド花 ♥

Jun 13, 2015 5:13 PM

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It's funny how Shinoa's almost always the trigger for Yuu; at first he's just all "oh my friends can survive this, yeah everything's a-ok, they'll find a-" but then when something happens to Shinoa, he goes apeshit. Not that it's a bad thing or anything, ShinoYuu for victory. <3

As for the episode itself, it was pretty decent and the pacing was pretty super. Nothing much to say since this was pretty faithful to the manga (minus crowley vs yuu).
>tfw Youtube can't let me have nice things



Jun 13, 2015 5:14 PM
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The berserk Yu is so badass.

Shinoa used her hug power to save Yu.
Jun 13, 2015 5:28 PM

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I knew Mika is gay.
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Jun 13, 2015 5:29 PM

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Nanashi- said:
without Mika this would actually be enjoyable


Without Mika, Yuu probably wouldn't be in this state. He wouldn't be so eager for revenge towards vampires, Asuramaru wouldn't feed on his revenge feelings since he wouldn't have them. Yuu wouldn't have been so distracted during the fight and would have killed whoever the fuck it was. But it was Mika, so nope.

Owari no Seraph is MikaYu, why are people complaining about Mika. He's a character, accept it, and character aren't always made to be loved so it's okay to hate him some times (though i don't understand that because he's a legit angel i want to pamper him so bad)
Jun 13, 2015 5:32 PM

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Nanashi- said:
shit Mika is so goddamn annoying. Sure, humans are using Yu but he doesn't actually belief he isn't used by the vampires, does he? It's like the one who is obviously used doesn't think so and the one who is used in secret doesn't even notice it.

without Mika this would actually be enjoyable


the complete opposite is true. Mika makes the show.
Jun 13, 2015 5:36 PM

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So everyone is gonna start blushing right now huh, great episode though.
    
   
Jun 13, 2015 5:37 PM
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mrdkreka said:
SovereignSky said:

Which series were those?

Sometimes spoilers are needed though. I'd rather get spoiled that get into a heated debate over why X is Y. In fact spoilers sometimes actually get me to watch a series.

If I say that, then other people will be spoiled, if you really want to know I can send you a private message with the two series.

My problem is when someone don't mark it as a spoiler, since I will rather speculate than being told the answer.

@mira-nyan Just spoiler tag it, since they are going to explain it later in the anime.


Sure.
Jun 13, 2015 5:39 PM

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why was the animation so meh ? there are so little fighting scenes yet when it happens its still meh
Jun 13, 2015 5:44 PM

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Jesus Christ Yuu-chan stop stabbing your best friend
Jun 13, 2015 5:45 PM

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So Mika is not dead because Yu hadn't "activated" the curse in his sword to kill him, yet every other vampire in the series dies right after they're killed. Nice resolution from last week's "oh shoot" cliffhanger...

I guess this episode was a little bit better than other ones. I can totally sympathize with Yu as he is torn between his childhood now-a-vampire friend and his new human family.

So Yu unlocks tree mode, but all that is does is make him bleed out of one eye and make big explosions with his sword. Yet this accomplishes virtually nothing because no really important enemies die and he can be stopped by a: "No, Yuu! Please stop it!"
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Jun 13, 2015 5:50 PM

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WOW JUST WOW, This was the best episode up till now, WTF was that and looks like Humans aren't that innocent after all...at start I thought it was Mika who was decieved by the Vimperes but oh wait it's the opossite, the Vampires had no idea on what was going on w/ Yu while Shit-Gurren looked like he knew everything, from now on I vote for Team Vampire, DESTROY THOSE HUMANS AND THEIR Greed, just put an end to them, "just keep the innocent one alive if there are in the first place ofc" Also from what I've understood from the previous EPs Mika may have the same power w/ Yu or sth simillar, I remember that the queen said sth like that when we were showed what happened after Yu left the vampires and also answers why she saved him....we'll see now how this evolves, and as I guess be ready for cliffhanger next week.
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Jun 13, 2015 6:05 PM

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Normally people spread the hate while I totally love the show, but this episode I was really disappointed.
What they made Yuu turn into was just another Tokyo Ghoul?
What was that amazing ending last week?! it had absolutely no effect in this episode, everyone is living and functioning well as if a blade hadn't went through their chest (Yes I know Mika can't die without the spell being activated).

Also, what is wrong with Guren? They try to make him act as a badass character but he is completely useless! Being held in a vampire hand for so long without dying because guess what he is one of the MC!

Mika is also weird, I appreciate his good intentions but he kills human and then defend them because Yuu shouldn't kill them?

Finally, everyone was saved with the power of hug. Spread the love people, hug for a better life.

Oh, I can't express how this episode ruined the show for me :(
HakayaJun 13, 2015 6:09 PM
Jun 13, 2015 6:33 PM

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Are the Humans good and the Vampire bad?

Are the Vampires Good and the Humans bad?

Yu OMFG 0__________0

Is that Asuramaru in dat preview picture???
Jun 13, 2015 6:39 PM
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Generally an awesome episode, but it was pretty cliche that he didn't amount to anything during his first transformation. Would it have been such a loss for the manga/anime for him to actually manage to kill something while enraged?
Jun 13, 2015 7:19 PM

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And of course Yu is brought back by the power of friendship. Is this Fairy Tail?


It wasn't the power of friendship numbnuts.

He got a boner cause he got hugged by a girl, which drained the blood away from the rest of the body, depriving the Seraph of it's power and causing it to shrivel up and go away.


Shhh. This will anger the Mika x Yu shippers.
Jun 13, 2015 7:21 PM

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So pretty much this episode in a nut shell Mika is hellla yandere for Yuu and while princess carrying away him his unit gets "vampire raped" causing Yuu to turn into some splatoon ink spewing demon tree thing,and while all this happening Garen is looking like a weak piece of shit and his squad doing a whole lot of nothing just so they could stall for reinforcements.


just how we knew there were more to the humans depending on how they go about it could be good but yeah..
Jun 13, 2015 7:29 PM

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katsu044 said:
So pretty much this episode in a nut shell Mika is hellla yandere for Yuu and while princess carrying away him his unit gets "vampire raped" causing Yuu to turn into some splatoon ink spewing demon tree thing,and while all this happening Garen is looking like a weak piece of shit and his squad doing a whole lot of nothing just so they could stall for reinforcements.


just how we knew there were more to the humans depending on how they go about it could be good but yeah..


It's called a bridal carry GET IT RIGHT
Jun 13, 2015 7:41 PM

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I went from Hating the vampires to hating the humans in this episode.
I thought the vampires where just brain washing mika but after this episode its clear to see thats not the case
(Always viewed humans as greedy and destructive anyway lol)
Jun 13, 2015 7:55 PM

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"The humans are using you. Dont let them deceive you." Thats a pretty weak excuse to have Yu go with Mika. And a very weak attempt at the "who's the real monster" cliche.

that car that exploded, and a few other things I noticed: shitty foreground animation. Ya, the beautiful backgrounds cant hide everything.

Aw fuck. This just took a "Tokyo Ghoul" twist and Im suddenly losing interest.

"Shinoa! He can still turn back at this point, do something! do something!" as if she know how the fuck to keep a human from turning full monster-- o nevermind, a hug and a "please" seems to be the cure.

Im just gonna go ahead a judge it. Hated the pacing in the first half. Finally started enjoying ep7-10. This episode killed it for me. However, I it would be unfair if I didnt give back a point for the background artwork that Ive loved the whole time. So between a 8 or 9/10.
Jun 13, 2015 8:00 PM

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10/10 Best episode so far! It was just as exciting as the manga version.
The animation really picked up in this one because it was getting really, really poor in the last few. Hope they edit them for the DVD/Blu-ray releases though.
Can't wait for season 2, since this season's almost over ;A;
Jun 13, 2015 8:22 PM

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Best episode so far.

Unfortunately, that's not saying much. Until the halfway point, the episode, like the show as a whole, had dull fight scenes. It's such a faux edgy show.
Jun 13, 2015 8:27 PM

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hahah 2 ships in this episode, yuu x shinoa vs yuu x mika

maybe.... civil war?
Jun 13, 2015 8:43 PM
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Noodle070 said:
So Mika is not dead because Yu hadn't "activated" the curse in his sword to kill him, yet every other vampire in the series dies right after they're killed. Nice resolution from last week's "oh shoot" cliffhanger...


Uhm, haven't you noticed that there are huge class levels between the certain vampires? Hell, even Guren had to dope up and use a demon to even have a chance against a vampire "noble", and even then he was getting his ass handed to him. You can't call "plot armor" when the explanation is baked into the very plot of the show.

Far too often people think that the problem is with the show, when the problem is really with their comprehension.

Noodle070 said:
So Yu unlocks tree mode, but all that is does is make him bleed out of one eye and make big explosions with his sword. Yet this accomplishes virtually nothing because no really important enemies die and he can be stopped by a: "No, Yuu! Please stop it!"


That is a more substantial criticism, and based on what people have posted from the manga it does seem that the animation could have made this point a little stronger. Though what is clear is that "tree mode" is actually a form of possession by something akin to angels. What wasn't made clear was that angel Yuu was simply annoyed with the vampires and most of those displays of power were the equivalent of a human swiping away flies than a real intent to kill. That is saved for the humans.

As for the "save by the hug", it would seem clear that there is something deliberate between Shinoa and Yuu so that she can help him control the Seraph. That was why Guren was confident in releasing something that seems to be humanity's greatest enemy and he said that she was the only one who could control it. So while this "what" has not been explained yet, the author at the least indicated that he understands our disbelief but is asking us to have confidence that he will eventually explain it.

A good story shows a bond between writer and reader (viewer). The viewer (reader) should have faith in the writer, the writer should show respect to his reader. So far the author has shown respect, so we should maintain faith that all will be explained.
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Jun 13, 2015 8:43 PM

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Damn, this episode was insanely intense. Too bad it took so long for things to get this good - shitty animation aside, of course.
Jun 13, 2015 9:19 PM
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There is no hope for "Mika x Yu" shippers ...

-Yu went berserk after seing Shinoa being hurt, the tears was too much for him.
-"Shinoa hug" stop the rampage.



There is really something between those 2.
They both didn't not realize their feelings, just like any shonen characters.
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Jun 13, 2015 9:33 PM
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Started reading manga.......the 2nd cour will be beast so please stay onboard the ship for it will sail. Yuu's transform was better in anime but manga actually looked like a wing and not tree :P
Jun 13, 2015 9:48 PM

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Hirokasama said:
There is no hope for "Mika x Yu" shippers ...

-Yu went berserk after seing Shinoa being hurt, the tears was too much for him.
-"Shinoa hug" stop the rampage.

There is really something between those 2.
They both didn't not realize their feelings, just like any shonen characters.


XD the funny thing about that is that Yuu was headed straight for Shinoa to kill her. If Mika didn't get in the way he would have. That's some love for you there.

MikaxYuu forever my ship will never sink >///<
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Summary of this Episode by our Dear Mika:

Never gonna give Yuu up
Never gonna let Yuu down
Never gonna run around and desert Yuu
Never gonna make Yuu cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt Yuu.

Jun 13, 2015 10:05 PM

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"Damn those humans". I agree with the vampires there! I really wanted Guren dead. Experimenting on Yuu or any of their kind (humans) should charge him with death.
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Jun 13, 2015 10:58 PM

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Gahhh, it's so hard waiting each week for another episode to come out!
I want to know what kind of experiment they did on Yuu and what that berserk form is all about.

Yuu got princess carried away by Mika... Don't know what to say about that.
I really want that one purple haired vampire that Yoichi was looking at dead. I don't know why, but he just annoys me so much more than any other character.
Yay for Shinoa's hug :D
Jun 13, 2015 11:19 PM

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Was that black stuff censored blood or just a black substance? Every time the black goo or watever hit the ground and became part of the background it seemed to turn red. In the manga blood and his tree/wing thing are both black so its hard 2 tell
Jun 14, 2015 12:01 AM
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This week episode felt kind of flat to me. The time to time choppy animation and Mika constant stupidity shouting might be the reason.

Owari no Seraph started off as my second most anticipated show of the season (first being Shokugeki no Soma) but now.. I can't say for sure anymore. 1 more episode to go!
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Jun 14, 2015 12:05 AM

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Nice episode.
Yu's transformation was lame tho.
And am I the only one who thinks this anime would be hell lot better if it had good OST?
The OST should've been more better >.<
Jun 14, 2015 12:15 AM

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IzayaUzumaki said:
Nice episode.
Yu's transformation was lame tho.
And am I the only one who thinks this anime would be hell lot better if it had good OST?
The OST should've been more better >.<


This show has no OST to speak of.

Or rather, I find it unreasonable to comment on the soundtrack because the overwhelming majority of the show, even during important parts or action scenes, has no music at all. And when there is music, it is almost always played at a very low volume relative to everything else. The music in this show just has so little presence it's ridiculous.

Basically the sound design in this show is shit. I think they've only used like 4 or 5 songs on this show total, excluding OP/ED/PVs.
Jun 14, 2015 12:21 AM

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Who disliked and hated this episode must have some problems, there is no reason to hate this episode.


That's only true if you're blind and deaf. Animation quality didn't completely die like last week but it was still pretty bad.

They even used a still for the preview, which suggests next will be just as bad. At least we got some of dat Mahiru.

Mmh..i didn't see all this bad animation. I enjoyed it. True that it's not the best but it's good, not bad.

robis798 said:
Xenocrisi said:
Who disliked and hated this episode must have some problems, there is no reason to hate this episode.

You can stop your bullshit, people explained why they disliked it.


No way. People overhate this anime, i'm not a fan of it, but people should stop complaining about all, this anime is fine. So, b*tch please.
Jun 14, 2015 12:36 AM
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That was actually not as boring as some of the previous episodes. I did enjoy this one.
And the story actually starts to deepen! This is what I was waiting for: some development.
I think this is gonna have a second season, right? Hmmm...

.....
Jun 14, 2015 12:37 AM
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OMG Yuu is going berserk.



No who is this chick wielding a demon katana?

Jun 14, 2015 12:38 AM

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juicykitten95 said:
why was the animation so meh ? there are so little fighting scenes yet when it happens its still meh

luccide said:
This week episode felt kind of flat to me. The time to time choppy animation and Mika constant stupidity shouting might be the reason.
Basically what I was thinking throughout this episode. Maybe I am expecting too much especially since Wit Studio is working on this.

fst said:

This show has no OST to speak of.

Or rather, I find it unreasonable to comment on the soundtrack because the overwhelming majority of the show, even during important parts or action scenes, has no music at all. And when there is music, it is almost always played at a very low volume relative to everything else. The music in this show just has so little presence it's ridiculous.

Basically the sound design in this show is shit. I think they've only used like 4 or 5 songs on this show total, excluding OP/ED/PVs.
I agree with this as well, I noticed the absence of the OST or how weak it sounds during crucial moments.

I'm not giving up on this anime yet, still got the second season to see if they improve any better.
JaveraJun 14, 2015 12:42 AM
Jun 14, 2015 1:03 AM
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Typical Plot ( battles in many Shounen/Action genres....)

1) Enemy will gain Upper hand
2) But Enemy will not kill them (protagonists) for whatever reasons
3) Main Protagonist will reveal super/special power but will not be able to control it
4) Then Main (?) Heroin will come to stop the out-of-control MC by simple reasoning (or whatever) ...
5) Good side suddenly gains control of situation (mainly reinforcements arrive)

I was wrong to expect something different ......
Jun 14, 2015 1:34 AM

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Orulyon said:

Unfortunately they changed a bit the artstyle from manga. In manga Mika looks way better, not to mention way older. look here :

Actually,Mika didn't look that older before
I think they changed the artstyle intentionally to show that Mika grows up,at least a little. But yeah,in the anime Mika looks way more feminine.
Jun 14, 2015 1:35 AM
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Unbelievable shit.
Jun 14, 2015 1:51 AM

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KuroYaksha said:

This is a Shonen. Would it really hurt to have some manliness in it? Seriously. And the yoai vibes are too overwhelming, not even Naruto and Sasuke was this bad. Why didn't they just make Yu a girl? I mean he already acts like one..
Hmm... Delicious male tears. So salty. Yum.

I love you. XD (But let's not be sexist here, not all males are homophobes.)

Anyway, this episode was much better than the previous 5 ones. It gave me new hope for 2nd season. Also, I'm really happy that they make male characters act like people rather than some incarnation of masculinity like in 90% of shounen.

I don't understand why are some people complaining that all vampires act feminine; A. what's wrong with that? You're just proving that femininity is inferior according to you.
B. it's complete bullshit because if you consider a vampire that looks like a Hulk but less green looking feminine then you need a reality check. Just get out of your basement and look around. Literally none of the vampires have a feminine build.

The only one I would give you a pass for slightly looking feminine is Ferid but he seems to like having a style rather than look like a woman or something. Other than that he acts as masculine as it gets. The only truly feminine one is Asuramaru and it's a demon so they might not even have a concept of gender for all we know. But, hey, in order for your manly pride to feel good you probably need to see a cast full of Hulks with as much emotional capacity who exist only to be destroying stuff. Because heaven forbid male characters would act and look like real people. And then they say that gender stereotypes don't hurt men. It's sad that you can be this sexist towards your own gender.
Jun 14, 2015 1:54 AM
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That was an intense and amazing episode, I give it a 4/5.
Hug scene and Yuu's transformation was my favorite; but I liked the manga version better.
He was badass **~ sucks no one died from his attacks though .-.
Guren's an asshole, still one of the characters I dislike most.
I enjoyed the fight scene with the vampires.
Mika was a bit annoying, being all yandere and sh¡t over Yuu. Pfft, gay.
One more episode to go, looking forward to how first season will end.
Jun 14, 2015 2:11 AM
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3.5/5 still mostly enjoying the show though x)
This episode felt like it lacked intensity and tension for me. Despite what was going on it was kinda flat?
It was pretty anti climatic there with Shinoa saving Yu though
also nobody died and they all seem really good at avoiding major injuries..? not that I look forward to deaths but with all the chest wounds and stuff ;-;
With the way it's going, I feel like I'm gonna join the vampire side if Mika ever shuts his mouth
Jun 14, 2015 2:51 AM

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OMG Yuu is going berserk.



No who is this chick wielding a demon katana?



For those who want to know.


I'm plenty pleased with how this episode went. This is essentially the point where the micro-plot develops into a macro-plot. Finally the world building that I've been waiting for has arrived.

Been seeing a bunch of people complaining about how cliche and typical the show is to the Shounen/action genre.

Now if it were about the animation quality or other aspects, which they've improved upon, then I would understand. But this....???

Considering that it HAS been tagged as a Shounen, why the complaints and surprise when they actually fit to the tropes that it's been tagged for? Were you all expecting some innovative "Non-Shounen-esque-but-stil-Shounen" series when you decided to watch it? It's not like this show does as much ass-pulling as many other Shounen genre shows out there. Why all the surprise when they actually fit to the tropes they've been billed for? Just because it's typical does it mean that it will be bad/disappointing/unwatchable?

Seriously some people need to get off their high horses here. Coming into a Shounen anime and not expecting Shounen elements is like walking into a meat shop and being disappointed that they don't sell vegan products. Not only is it ridiculously nonsensical, but it also makes you lot look like idiots.

Plus, as of this moment, I think it's safe to say that you won't even know who the "Good" side is right now. This episode did well to throw things into the gray zone, and the subsequent episodes will help further that movement.

No, not all humans are good and no, not all vampires are bad. The thing inside Yuu is seriously bad news though. Things aren't so clear-cut that you can use two sentences to describe the story. Some people just gotta learn to be patient and wait till the story develops.
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Jun 14, 2015 3:28 AM

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Okay, so finally an interesting episode. Didn't expect Yu to grow one black wing there. It was going great until Yu confronted Shinoa and was about to kill her. Then Mika came saying, "Don't kill humans." I was like contradicting much. Well, there might still be some love for humans left inside him but still... And when Shinoa hugged Yu to bring him back, he got jealous saying how she shouldn't touch him with her filthy hands lol. Other than that, I liked the episode quite a bit.
Jun 14, 2015 4:18 AM

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So the main distinction this show is trying to make is that the humans may actually be the bad guys? not too exciting in my opinion. As for the berserk mode, we've seen it better done in the big 3 shounen, and how is Guren still alive?

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pink haired annoying mug always clinging to Yuu....Just f.ck off already.Seriously, even Asuramaru wanted Yuu to go with Mika!
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Shinoa is lovely. Only reason to continue. The story was quite watchable.

The action is just sad. It warrants -2 stars alone.
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